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Anonymous Takes Down Thousands of ISIS-Related Twitter Accounts In a Day (softpedia.com)

BarbaraHudson writes: Softpedia is reporting that Anonymous, along with social media users, have identified several thousand Twitter accounts allegedly linked to ISIS members. "Besides scanning for ISIS Twitter accounts themselves, the hacking group has also opened access to the [takedown operation] site to those interested. Anyone who comes across ISIS social media accounts can easily search the database and report any new terrorists and supporters. The website is called #opIceISIS [slow right now, but it does load] and will index ISIS members based on their real name, location, picture, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube accounts." Anonymous crowdsourcing their operations... welcome to the brave new world, ISIS. An article at The Independent reminds everyone that this information has not been independently confirmed, and that Anonymous is certainly capable of misidentifying people. It's also worth exploring the question of why Twitter hasn't already disabled these accounts, and why intelligence agencies haven't done anything about them, if they're so easy to find.

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  1. Why they haven't taken them down by chuckymonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's pretty easy actually, better to keep tabs on the enemy by letting them continue to use accounts that we know about rather than drive them to ones that we don't.

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    1. Re:Why they haven't taken them down by lurker412 · · Score: 2

      Taking them down seems like a futile approach, as they'll only reappear with a different identity. Clever trolling would be more effective--poison the well instead. Problem is, to be effective requires considerable language skills and cultural expertise, which one wouldn't necessarily expect from a hacker community.

    2. Re:Why they haven't taken them down by prefec2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you only fight them in a war like scenario then this is correct. However, we can only win when we stop to produce young people who become willingly the tools of IS. Therefore, we have to cut the communication links of IS. And we must help those young men in school, university, and society to find another way to get recognition in life.

      See also: http://www.theguardian.com/pro...

    3. Re:Why they haven't taken them down by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Informative

      Twitter, BAH! If you want to be effective, follow their finances and arms deals, but be careful, you will find out things you don't want to know. Or you could file an FOIA request for the receipts at the state department. There you will find what makes this ride go 'round and 'round.

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  2. Re:what good will this do ? by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It makes it much harder for them to conduct their recruitment and other operations which depend on an online presence.

  3. Great Work Kids! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is literally nothing in the world harder than creating a Twitter account. I know, I tried. Couldn't read the damn CAPTCHA without my spectacles.

    Anonymous has completely ruined the infrastructure of terror. It will take centuries to rebuild.

    Great work kids. I hope you all get medals for you bravery.

  4. Re:what good will this do ? by BitZtream · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Are you seriously so naive to think that they get a lot of recruits from twitter?

    Sure they get some, but typically first world whiney brats on twitter aren't the type that can actually survive even being around where ISIS does actual recruiting.

    When you make silly comments like this it shows that you really have no idea what motivates these people to be terrorists.

    Silly first world issues don't have any effect on people living in places that would call Hell an improvement.

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  5. ISIS has help desk to aid terrorists w/encryption by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://thehill.com/policy/cybe...

    I was able to infiltrate this ISIS help desk and here is the prompt I heard when calling into it (translated from Arabic):

    Welcome to the Daesh hotline. Please listen carefully to the following message as our options have changed.
    Press 1 for information on how to encrypt messages sent to members of your terrorist cell
    Press 2 if you're a suicidal bomber and are having trouble detonating your device
    Press 3 if you're an oppressed female who would like to sign up for our next Perl Programming Bootmap
    Press 4 for tips on how to write terror and/or hate messages in 140 characters or less
    Press 5 to voice your displeasure with systemd
    Or Press 0 to speak with a member of the Bush family for further assistance

  6. Re:what good will this do ? by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Sure they get some, but typically first world whiney brats on twitter aren't the type that can actually survive even being around where ISIS does actual recruiting."

    Suicide bombers/shooters are known for 'not surviving', it is kind of their thing.

  7. accomplished what? by iggymanz · · Score: 2

    So the will stop ISIL from sawing off people's heads, raping, slaughtering, stealing, being pedophiles, vandals, shooting up discos in foreign countries etc.?

    It will keep the really stupid ones, such as certain known ones from the USA for instance, from bragging as much I suppose.

  8. Dumb by poity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So they just reported them and drove them to new accounts or more obscure platforms?
    Why not infiltrate them, honeypot them, phish them, throw in some trojans, etc? They could have caused a lot more trouble. Are these even the 4chan Anons from yesteryear? Where is the chaotic element?

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    1. Re:Dumb by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 2

      They could have caused a lot more trouble. Are these even the 4chan Anons from yesteryear? Where is the chaotic element?

      They largely aren't. 4chan is a shell of its former self. Don't get me wrong, it can still be a terrible place, but it's not nearly as bad as it used to be. I'd guess a lot of the former members either grew up, got busy with other stuff in life, or moved to other sites.

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  9. Re:Maybe intelligence agencies were running them by HiThere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You seem to be under the impression that just because some group uses the name Anonymous, they are the same as other groups that use the same name. I don't believe this is correct.

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  10. Re:quite likely "intelligence" is monitoring by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So at what point does the "smart cop" decide to stop them? After they've killed 129 people?

    That makes a good movie plot but it doesn't work in real life.

    The problem is that our "intelligence" agencies are more focused on electronics than on intelligence. It's easier. It's cheaper. It can cover a lot more "suspects". And it can be easily abused.

    Stopping an attack makes you look good for one day.

    Having a fearsome enemy that can attack any where, any time means you have funding for life.

  11. Re:teh reaperening by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >> it removed the stupid fuckups from our society to a location where we can safely dispose of them by bombing

    That was kind of the point behind invading Iraq, if you listen to certain neo-cons. Unfortunately, it turns out that 1) the supply of stupid fuckups is nearly inexhaustible, 2) they start hiding among the civilians (which we then bomb) and 3) some are happy to "play ISIS" in their own backyards (like this fuckup).

  12. Re:Racists waited for Westerners to get killed by tnk1 · · Score: 2

    Its not really racism, it's mostly that no one feels invested in it unless it happens to them. Sure, they may think to themselves, "let the brown people blow each other up," but what they are really saying is, "no bombings here, not my problem."

  13. The spy agencies... by gurps_npc · · Score: 2
    do not want to close them down, they want to monitor them and cross reference them till they can identify the ISIS members. We care far more about that than the minor PR advantages they gain from their existence.

    Twitter, etc have financial concerns and will not put that much money into identifying them, especially when the governments don't push it. But they will be happy to take them down if we do the work of identifying the bad actors.

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  14. Re: what good will this do ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out the videos Vice News made inside ISIS territory. People are not starving. They even have electricity. It's not Ethiopia in the 80s. (Even Ethiopia wasn't quite how it looked on the news.) They do use social media, mainly for propaganda purposes. And they hate the west because they are taught to, because that hatred serves the needs of the people in power, not for any other reason.

  15. Re:quite likely "intelligence" is monitoring by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They've killed a lot more than 129 people (along with many other atrocities). There have been thousands dead already but I guess they don't count since they weren't in a first world country.

    Not that the West really has the stomach to stop ISIS. All we want to do is send planes over there to drop bombs and let the smaller countries from the area do the fighting on the ground. Getting rid of them is going to take putting troops over there but the people here don't want to deal with the casualties that would come with that.

  16. Re:Having followed their exploits for a while now. by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    China already has a muslim problem. You don't hear about it because it's more or less contained. China is not very gentle or apologetic in how they use their military to handle Jihadists.

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  17. Re:what good will this do ? by rahvin112 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Their entire PR and recruiting operation works on twitter, facebook and other social network properties. You don't actually think they are calling people do you? Sure they have facilitators on the outside spreading their message but 99% of their propaganda goes out via social networking and based on the people they've caught trying to join daesh they are their primary recruiting tools as well.

    What do you think they are holding job fairs or some such nonsense? Their only way to communicate with people is through social media.

  18. Re:what good will this do ? by tburkhol · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yea, people who have time to dick around and read Twitter are not the kind of people who are willing to blow themselves up unless it's due to shear boredom.

    Bored, idealistic, rich kids have been part of most major revolutions or asymmetric conflicts. "Useful idiots" maybe. Philosophers. Basically, kids angry with the world, looking for ways to improve the plight of some oppressed group. People who can be convinced of a noble sacrifice, however misguided.

    I doubt very much that suicide bombers are sitting in their hovels, just waiting for someone to suggest the vest and the 72 virgins. They're cultivated over years. Slowly. Twitter and social media are extremely efficient tools to make first contact with many, many people.

  19. Re:quite likely "intelligence" is monitoring by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They've killed a lot more than 129 people (along with many other atrocities). There have been thousands dead already but I guess they don't count since they weren't in a first world country.

    More like it is a bit more difficult to arrest someone who is part of an armed organization in a different country.

    Why would they be using social media to communicate with each other when they're bivouacked together?

    Not that the West really has the stomach to stop ISIS.

    It's not that they do not have the stomach for it.

    They see advantages in having a scary enemy to distract from other issues.

    All we want to do is send planes over there to drop bombs and let the smaller countries from the area do the fighting on the ground.

    Because once a bomb is used, a replacement has to be purchased. Which means a LOT of money flowing from taxes to vendors.

    Getting rid of them is going to take putting troops over there but the people here don't want to deal with the casualties that would come with that.

    That is what created them the last time.

    At this point there is no clean/easy way to deal with the mess we created. And we aren't willing to spend the money/years helping them if our vendors do not see a cash ROI.

  20. "Know to intelligence" - why is this a theme? by gilgongo · · Score: 2

    FTA "It's also worth exploring the question of why Twitter hasn't already disabled these accounts, and why intelligence agencies haven't done anything about them, if they're so easy to find."

    It's not just Twitter accounts, it seems to be a common pattern whenever most perpetrators of hate or terrorist attacks are analysed - at least some of the those involved have been under surveillance, known to law enforcement, or otherwise under suspicion already. I can understand this being the case once in a while, but it seems like pretty much every time.

    Why is this? It is fear of false positives? Wanting to use known suspicious actors to reveal accomplices? Lack of police resources on the ground? What?

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  21. Re:teh reaperening by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It could be - but some of them wouldn't be (quite as) stupid fuckups if they had better options available. The more refugees we take in, and the more we treat them like normal people, the less they're going to want to attack us. We absolutely cannot afford to make it a "West vs. Islam" fight, because that's how they get more recruits. It's playing right into their hands.

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  22. CIA created ISIS by tekrat · · Score: 2

    Dude;

    When you consider that the CIA created Osama Bin Laden (by training him, and providing weapons when he was fighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan); and the CIA created ISIS (by creating false intelligence to justify the invasion of Iraq), the CIA is simply a terrorist organization that pretends to be working for American interests.

    We're better off without you frankly. The world would be a lot healthier without your meddling. Stop trying to make Dick Cheney even richer than he is.

    Thanks!

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  23. Re:what good will this do ? by kheldan · · Score: 2

    What good would this do ?

    It's disruptive to their Internet-based propaganda and radicalization/recruiting operations, and hopefully it's making them an embarassment to anyone who is witnessing them being outed and shut down.

    Unfortunately in their enthusiasm to do as much damage as possible, they may be disrupting government intelligence operations, that might have been monitoring some of those accounts for intel on ISIL operations. That's something I didn't consider until someone else mentioned it to me.

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  24. Re:what good will this do ? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Informative

    They use the accounts, as well as facebook accoiunts, for multiple reasons:

    1 Communications between cells using code phrases
    2 Distribution of propaganda (fear and terror - after all, they're terrorists)
    3.Recruiting

    Take down one channel of communication (a twitter for facebook account), and you have to tell people where to look for the next one. Do it often enough, quickly enough, and you've crippled their means of communications to the outside world. Sure, accounts are free - but imagine if you had to buy a new burner phone AND tell everyone your new phone number, every day.

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  25. Re:Correction by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

    There are plenty of intelligent, educated conservatives who just happen to have been taught some lessons that are really, really wrong. It's kind of like racist kids--they can still be bright, intelligent kids, they were just taught to be an asshole by their parents and haven't learned better yet.

  26. Well, the prophecy came true.... by shocking · · Score: 5, Funny

    Daesh is about to get screwed by 72 virgins...

  27. Don't call it "ISIS" or ISIL" by Kargan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That legitimizes them. They should be referred to as "Daesh".

    http://www.ibtimes.com/isil-is...

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    1. Re:Don't call it "ISIS" or ISIL" by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't even call them that. Call them The Tiny Penises, and every time you see them on TV, or someone mentions them at a dinner party, laugh out loud and say "It's the tiny penises!". Then make lots of tiny penis jokes.
      Being tough guys with a tough sounding name is working in their favour. I suspect ridicule will assist in reducing possible future recruitment.
      Akbal: "Hey Ahmed, I'm thinking of joining ISIS".
      Ahmed "Haha you want to join The Tiny Penises?! Why do you have a tiny penis?"
      Akbal reconsiders and joins goes back to playing Counterstrike instead.

    2. Re:Don't call it "ISIS" or ISIL" by Kargan · · Score: 2

      I can. It's actually pretty interesting, IMO.

      http://www.pri.org/stories/201...

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  28. Re:ISIS don't use followers by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    We already know that they got hundreds of millions by robbing an Iraqi bank. Then there's the black market oil they sell, the contributions from Arabs living elsewhere, hostage ransoms, taxing those inhabitants who are still living there ...

    Heck, they even pay pensions to the wives of fighters KIA.

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  29. Re:what good will this do ? by Tharkkun · · Score: 2

    You are aware that people have been recruiting since before there was an Internet ... Right?

    You too are trapped in this retarded first world view of things and have absolutely no concept of how different their world is from yours. Most of their members have never seen the Internet, how the fuck are they going to be recruited by an entirely first world time sink they don't even know exists.

    Just because you once heard a news story about a couple girls who did it via social media doesn't make it common, it just makes you look silly for believing that.

    That's where you're wrong. How do you think CNN gets a hold of all their videos? Internet. They have the money to setup and leverage social media. Facebook is the #1 form of communication across the planet. Especially for young recruits. That's how they intercept would be recruits crossing the borders into the middle east. Social media.

  30. Re:what good will this do ? by SharpFang · · Score: 2

    read at -1 you pussy.

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  31. FB propaganda = The division bell. by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well said, We need to stop letting the enemy define this war as "us vs Islam" and make it crystal clear that it is "us vs death cults".

    Catholics in England were not ostracized when the IRA were blowing people up, Christians in the US were not attacked in the street by strangers because of the behaviour of the KKK. ISIS are religious extremists whose victims are mainly other muslims. Muslims are our allies against ISIS in the same way Christians were our allies against the IRA and KKK. The refugees pouring out of ISIS territory collectively know more about ISIS operations than the Pentagon, they have lost everything to ISIS, we are at a crossroad, we can welcome them as "citizens the free world", or we can allow ISIS to kill the brave, enslave the weak, and indoctrinate the youth.

    The 35 million refugees represent the "human intel" that the west has so dismally failed to cultivate in the arab world. Why are we treating our most valuable allies as a liability? - These are the very people who want to (and can) help us dismantle ISIS from the ground up, yet western social media is littered with calls to close our borders and push our natural allies back into enemy territory "where they belong".

    ISIS territory is unstable and surrounded by a standing army of 5 million muslims who want them dead. They desperately needs the rest of the Islamic world on board before they have a hope in hell of achieving their stated aim of a global caliphate. Sadly, at least a third of my FB friends cannot contain the xenophobic instincts that we all have. They are doing exactly what the enemy's strategy predicted they would do, spreading anti-muslim propaganda that seeks to divide the world into "rednecks vs muslims".

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  32. Re:what good will this do ? by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Well exactly, so why is everybody obsessed with this Twitter/Anonymous bullshit? And why would you approve of illegally taking down someone else's account? If it's okay for them, then it's okay to do the same to you. That is your deal with the devil.

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