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Why Car Salesmen Don't Want To Sell Electric Cars

HughPickens.com writes: Matt Richtel writes in the NYT that one big reason there are only about 330,000 electric vehicles on the road is that car dealers show little enthusiasm for putting consumers into electric cars. Industry insiders say that electric vehicles do not offer dealers the same profits as gas-powered cars, they take more time to sell because of the explaining required, and electric vehicles may require less maintenance, undermining the biggest source of dealer profits — their service departments. Some electric car buyers have said they felt as if they were the ones doing the selling. Chelsea Dell made an appointment to test-drive a used Volt but when she arrived, she said, a salesman told her that the car hadn't been washed, and that he had instead readied a less expensive, gas-powered car. "I was ready to pull the trigger, and they were trying to muscle me into a Chevy Sonic," says Dell. "The thing I was baffled at was that the Volt was a lot more expensive." Marc Deutsch, Nissan's business development manager for electric vehicles says some salespeople just can't rationalize the time it takes to sell the cars. A salesperson "can sell two gas burners in less than it takes to sell a Leaf," Deutsch says. "It's a lot of work for a little pay."

Jared Allen says that service is crucial to dealer profits and that dealers didn't want to push consumers into electric cars that might make them less inclined to return for service. Maybe that helps explains the experience of Robert Kast, who last year leased a Volkswagen e-Golf from a local dealer. He said the salesman offered him a $15-per-month maintenance package that included service for oil changes, belt repair and water pumps. "I said: 'You know it doesn't have any of those things,'" Mr. Kast recalled. He said the salesman excused himself to go confirm this with his manager. Of the whole experience, Mr. Kast, 61, said: "I knew a whole lot more about the car than anyone in the building." "Until selling a plug-in electric car is as quick and easy as selling any other vehicle that nets the dealer the same profit, many dealers will avoid them, for very logical and understandable reasons," says John Voelker. "That means that the appropriate question should be directed to makers of electric cars: What are you doing to make selling electric cars as profitable and painless for your dealers as selling gasoline or diesel vehicles?"

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  1. Easy solution by viperidaenz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If dealers don't want to sell them, let manufacturers sell direct to the customers.

    1. Re:Easy solution by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Funny

      ..except that the dealers have made that illegal, for the most part. For our protection, of course.

    2. Re:Easy solution by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This +100.

      Dealers need to step aside and get out of the fucking way of the sale. It's a stupid business model. There is no value in having a middleman in this process anymore.

      Put a firm price tag on the damned vehicle along with a spec sheet - haggling over the price of the of an expensive item like a car like you are in some Algerian bazaar pisses people off. Have an attendant handle the keys and accompany road tests. Done.

      I'll never go to a chain dealership to buy a car. I've bought my last several cars off lease from a used car seller who puts a price tag on the car, and simply hands you the keys for a road test and asks that you have the car back by closing time. Their prices are good because they don't have to pay a bunch of salespeople to play fucking mind games with customers all damned day, and they have good sales volume. They have an awesome local reputation.

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  2. I'm going to enjoy this more than I should by Dega704 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you were to ask me what I like most about electric cars (and Tesla in particular), it wouldn't be the economic or environmental benefits, or even the technology.

    It's the way they are taking a long stagnant and mostly non-innovative industry and dragging it kicking and screaming into the 21st century. If the people who constantly preach about the free market truly appreciated the concept, they would know that in a legitimately free market, you either change with the times or you get kicked to the curb to make room for those who are actually innovating.

    The more they resist, the more I'm going to enjoy watching them weep and wail as they slowly become irrelevant.

  3. Obligatory Responses by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is Slashdot. Any discussion of electric cars must include these obligatory posts -

    "My daily commute is 762 miles. Therefore, electric cars are useless to anyone and everyone."

    (Variation also acceptable: "Twice a year I drive 600 miles to Phoenix. Therefore, electric cars are useless to anyone and everyone.")

    "My electric power comes from coal, therefore all electric cars are more polluting than my Grandpa's 1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass."

  4. Re:Dealers cannot die soon enough by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    you think Kia wants to open up their own showrooms at malls across america? I assure you not.

    Hey, if Kia doesn't want to sell directly to me - Tesla does. I have no problem with both business models competing with one another.

    I do, however, have a problem with needing to deal with middle-men because of protectionist laws that forbid companies like Tesla from selling directly to me. But hey, YMMV, right?

  5. Re:Less service? by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Every car I've ever owned has had more than $4k in maintenance costs by the time it's 10 years old. The water pump, the timing belt, flushing the transmission, flushing the radiator, etc... amount to a pretty penny. But the oil changes alone are going to net you more than $1000 in that timeframe. You get one major part going out on a combustion car that requires the engine to be disassembled and you'll drop $1k before they even know what's wrong. Yea if you do all your own maintenance you can save money on stuff but mechanical engines break down over time.

    And from what I've seen of battery replacement information the only batteries failing at 8-10 years are the NiMH batteries in the Prius. The lithium-ion in the more advanced vehicles have not exhibited the same failure rate and currently have a very poorly understood failure rate because not many have failed.