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Senators: Has Uncle Sam Paid Off Ransomware Criminals? (securityledger.com)

chicksdaddy writes: Just a month after an FBI official admitted that his agency sometimes advised companies stricken with ransomware to pay the ransom, two U.S. Senators are requesting information about federal agencies' encounters with ransomware malware, and whether Uncle Sam might have paid ransoms, also. "Have federal state or local governments sought DOJ or FBI’s help to remove ransomware from their computers," the Senators asked in a letter (PDF download) addressed to Attorney General Loretta Lynch. "If so, please describe the nature of any assistance sought, whether agencies have paid ransoms to remove ransomware, and whether DOJ or the FBI was able to decrypt the computer systems."

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  1. Is ransomware tax-deductible? by mveloso · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can you write off ransom costs on your taxes?

    Do you get a receipt when you pay off your ransomware?

    1. Re:Is ransomware tax-deductible? by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

      Actually, yes you do. And it is more professional then a lot of software companies.

    2. Re:Is ransomware tax-deductible? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

      >> Can you write off ransom costs on your taxes?

      I don't see why not. Best case, it's business services and fully deductible. Worst case, it's entertainment (and half deductible).

    3. Re:Is ransomware tax-deductible? by zlives · · Score: 2

      especially if you seek legal advice regarding the measure ...

    4. Re:Is ransomware tax-deductible? by Misch · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes. An individual can deduct the amount minus ($100 + 10% of AGI) Source: NY Times, Extortion counts as theft. IRS

      Businesses get treated more favorably, they can deduct actual losses.

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    5. Re:Is ransomware tax-deductible? by msauve · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Extortion counts as theft."

      So I can deduct tax payments from my taxes? Woo-hoo!

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  2. Winning quote of the day. by khasim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The success of the ransomware ends up benefitting victims: because so many people pay, the malware authors are less inclined to wring excess profit out of any single victim, keeping ransoms low.

    Gotta love the "logic" that went into that statement.

    Remember kids, paying the ransom is a lot cheaper than investing in security ... as long as everyone else is also paying the Danegeld.

    1. Re:Winning quote of the day. by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

      The success of the ransomware ends up benefitting victims: because so many people pay, the malware authors are less inclined to wring excess profit out of any single victim, keeping ransoms low.

      Gotta love the "logic" that went into that statement.

      Remember kids, paying the ransom is a lot cheaper than investing in security ... as long as everyone else is also paying the Danegeld.

      It is true... They will not want to kill the goose as long as it keeps laying golden eggs. But you really do not want to be the last "Goose" that takes good backups...

    2. Re:Winning quote of the day. by khasim · · Score: 2

      It is true... They will not want to kill the goose as long as it keeps laying golden eggs.

      The criminals don't. But phrasing that as "benefitting" the victims is ... beyond stupid.

      Like being shaken down for "protection" money. But the mob is doing such a good job that they can offer you a 50% off deal. It might be less painful, but it is not a "benefit" in any way.

  3. Re:Officially or unofficially? by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Consulting services.

  4. New York State has paid the criminals. by truck_soccer · · Score: 2

    Had a few machines come in from various state orgs and universities 2 years ago when crypto starting making the rounds again. Their backups were too old, had to pay the fuckers. They did get all their stuff back. But still, they paid some assknob in east fuckistan 1200USD a pop. That was when I figured out that I was playing on the wrong team.

    1. Re: New York State has paid the criminals. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      No he ordered an assknob from Amazon. Followed the directions, inserted assknob and began pleasuring himself for the "wrong team".

  5. This just in! by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

    Hillary Clinton has just announced that her "Email Server" and all the "Emails" were held hostage by Ransomware and she didn't pay, and that is why she doesn't have those emails everyone doesn't care about.

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  6. Is there really much doubt by DarkOx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    U.S. Senators are requesting information about federal agencies' encounters with ransomware malware, and whether Uncle Sam might have paid ransoms,

    I mean the Obama administration has pretty publicly failed to up hold the 'US does not negotiate with terrorists' line. That is the sort of precedent that gets set at the top. When the President is out there doing prisoner swaps with the Taliban its pretty hard to expect some mid level IT bureaucrat to spine up and tell his bosses they fucked up don't have backups and got hit with crypt malware. Much easier to submit an expense report for "consulting services" and hope the issue is forgotten quickly.

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  7. More proof of my hypothesis about the NSA by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We already know that local governments, including police and sheriff offices, have been nailed by ransomware and have paid up to get their data back. If this conjecture about the feds proves out, it would reinforce my hypothesis that NSA surveillance is a paper tiger. If NSA data collection was as effective as we fear it is, they would be able to trace the Bitcoin payments and have agents sent out to strangle the perps with their own intestines, no matter where they might be located.

    Whatever we think of the NSA's domestic operations, everyone in here would love to see that happen at least once.

  8. Re:problem, reaction, solution. done. by KGIII · · Score: 2

    I know it's popular to blame everybody else but maybe it's time to blame the terrorists themselves?

    People seem hell-bent on blaming the US, guns, politicians, religion, economy, environment, the French, Europe in general, etc... How about we just, you know, blame the asshole terrorists?

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