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Twitter Bans 'Hateful Conduct' (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Twitter has updated their site rules to prohibit "behavior intended to harass, intimidate, or use fear to silence another user's voice." According to the new rules, "You may not promote violence against or directly attack or threaten other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability or disease." This follows criticism that Twitter (and other social networks) haven't done enough to prevent the ramblings of the Islamic State and other terrorist groups. "Tuesday's announcement did not disclose changes to Twitter's enforcement strategy. A company spokesman declined to say if any were in the works. The new rules also said that Twitter might respond to reports that somebody is considering 'self-harm' by contacting the person to express concern and provide contact information to mental health practitioners."

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  1. FTFY... by x0ra · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Twitter ban 'dissenting political opinions'.

    1. Re:FTFY... by schizrade4954 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      x1000 SJWs rejoice, now they can muzzle any and all opponents by crying "hate speech".

    2. Re:FTFY... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It seems you live in an alternate reality where SJWs are on the side of good. They are not. Any movement or political thought that seeks to ban free speech is the enemy of all of civilization.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    3. Re:FTFY... by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, we all hate it when other people disagree with us. So to be safe, maybe we should just ban all speech, period.

      Better yet, just shut down Twitter altogether. Only way to be sure.

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      SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
    4. Re:FTFY... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Someone disagrees with you, so he's now magically a member of the aryan brotherhood and lives in the 1950s... Found the SJW. Maybe one day you'll see what a bigot you're being.

    5. Re:FTFY... by Crashmarik · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Someone disagrees with you, so he's now magically a member of the aryan brotherhood and lives in the 1950s... Found the SJW. Maybe one day you'll see what a bigot you're being.

      Introspection is not part of the SJW mentality. Matter of fact they are probably mutually exclusive.

    6. Re:FTFY... by blue9steel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I support others people's right to say things that I despise, that is what free speech is all about.

    7. Re:FTFY... by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability or disease"

      I don't see "political views" listed there. Also,

      Lol, so naive.

      Don't you know that saying "I like Donald Trump" these days is the equivalent of saying "I hate all Muslims" and is therefore a hate crime? Or that going to a feminist rally and holding up a sign that says "I disagree with feminism" creates a hostile environment for women and is therefore not only a hate crime, but also a form gender discrimination and also rape?

      I wish I were joking. That's how far the left that I was once proud to be a part of has sunk in recent years.

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      SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
    8. Re:FTFY... by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, that's an insane reactionary belief. Whoever put that nonsense in your head is your real enemy, not the people they taught you to hate.

    9. Re:FTFY... by x0ra · · Score: 3, Insightful

      SJW are bad because they try to impose a predefined thought considered "good and righteous" to everybody, everywhere. To this extend, they are no better than Islamist extremist trying to impose Charia to everybody, everywhere.

    10. Re:FTFY... by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      lol sjw are bad because i saw it on an internet forum

      No, SJW's are bad because they get people kicked out their colleges, fired from their jobs, and even imprisoned simply for expressing opinions that disagree with their own radical ideology.

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      SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
    11. Re:FTFY... by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It deeply saddens me to see that the liberal movement that I once supported is now actively arguing against the very right to free speech that we used to champion.

      You're using the very same arguments that the far-right used to use to try to silence us. The "There are some people who citizens simply shouldn't be allowed to criticize" argument is the very same one we used to hear when we criticized the President or the government.

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      SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
    12. Re:FTFY... by kheldan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How cute that you think this will only be applied to ISIS. Naivete at its finest.

      Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize you live in the United States of Twitter, and that what the administrators of that site do is what you live and die by! Twitter is a business not a country. They can create and enforce any rules for using their FREE service that they want, and it doesn't infringe on your 1st Amendment rights whatsoever, you can always go somewhere else -- or is your life so sadly limited that without Twitter you'll wither away and die? If so then I pity you. Otherwise you can always 'vote with your keyboard' and NOT use Twitter at all, and furthermore express your opinions of their rules directly to Twitter's management, which I'd recommend instead of whinging and whining about it on Slashdot.

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      Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
    13. Re:FTFY... by epyT-R · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Up until recently, 'civilized' included things like respect for everyone's free speech, not just those with the 'correct' opinions.

    14. Re:FTFY... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your personal definition of sjw is irrelevant. His definition of the term is the one in use. A sjw is someone pushing progressive social politics in an unyielding, uncompromising way.

    15. Re:FTFY... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What Social Injustice Enthusiasts call "SJWs" are not actually some cabal of activists, but an anthropomorphism of the societal consequences that free speech may carry. Social Injustice Enthusiasts want special immunity from these consequences.

      For some reason SIEs perceive the greater consequences in recent times, where both the targeted group and non-targeted groups get involved at a massive scale, as a completely separate phenomenon to boycotts and shunning in the past where only the targeted group and a small core of non-targeted supporters were involved, and as such carried lesser consequences.

      BTW, "SJW" is just the modern, general-purpose descendant of "nigger-lover." Mark my words.

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    16. Re:FTFY... by GodelEscherBlecch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, those damn SJWs:

      Their hypervigilant drive to hunt down any topic that, using the most tenuous of tangents, can be bent, crammed or shoe-horned into an excuse to make a screed against those that disagree with them
      Their logical fallacies of calling those that disagree with them bigots whilst casting broad aspersions on generalized groups of people
      Their false equation of somebody calling them out on their shitty opinions as an attack on free speech
      Their desperate need to frame everything as being somehow discriminatory against them and make themselves the center of victim attention of the moment

      I applaud your courage and urge everyone to help fight them at every turn by:

      Having a hypervigilant drive to hunt down any topic that, using the most tenuous of tangents, can be bent, crammed or shoe-horned into an excuse to make a screed against them
      Using logical fallacies of calling them bigots whilst casting broad aspersions on generalized groups of people
      Promoting the false equation of being calling out on our shitty opinions as an attack on free speech
      Desperately trying to frame everything as being somehow discriminatory against us white males and making ourselves the center of victim attention of the moment

      God willing, in time, we will forge a bold new world free of those prejudiced fuckwits just looking for excuses to attack a group of people rather than considering the true merit and victims of every social issue without the pathetic cop-out of simply conflating it with said group of hated people and dashing off an insulting comment against them. Once they have all been silenced, only then can we have true discourse and freedom of speech, because logic.

    17. Re:FTFY... by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Social Justice Warriors are followers of Neo-Marxist ideology. Any sane person should oppose that bullshit.

      Furthermore, opposition to SJWs and Neo-Marxists can hardly be called "reactionary", because that would imply that SJWs and Neo-Marxists already define the status quo in our society. Reactionaries is what countries call liberals and conservatives after socialist and communist revolutions.

    18. Re:FTFY... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Just because a position is reactionary does not mean it is wrong (or right). ..or maybe the slashdot crowd is rightfully criticizing irrational double standards.

    19. Re:FTFY... by NotDrWho · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What Social Injustice Enthusiasts call "SJWs" are not actually some cabal of activists, but an anthropomorphism of the societal consequences that free speech may carry. Social Injustice Enthusiasts want special immunity from these consequences.

      Wow, that is the most polite, erudite justification for the active persecution of dissenters that I've ever seen.

      That would have been really useful back in the 1960's, when certain people were also learning that free speech has consequences. "What civil rights activists call "racists" are not actually some cabal of activists, but an anthropomorphism of the societal consequences that free speech may carry. Civil rights activists want special immunity from these consequences." Man that sounds so much better and more civilized than "If those niggers try one of their commie sit-ins in this town, we're going to string them up from the trees." Those Citizen Councils would have been well-served to have you on-board as a writer.

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      SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
    20. Re:FTFY... by Chas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Going out of your way to get someone fired/arrested/expelled isn't a "consequence".

      It's you being a complete dick to someone who happens to not believe the same thing as you do.

      PERIOD.

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      Chas - The one, the only.
      THANK GOD!!!
    21. Re:FTFY... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Haha so boycotts and legal, nonviolent shunning are the same as racially-motivated violence to you? And then you imply that expressed opinions are equivalent to race, again suggesting that you should have special protection from the consequences of this speech - just like we protect people from racial discrimination. But opinions are not like ethnicity. You can safely change them or keep them private. That's why we don't treat opinions the same way.

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    22. Re:FTFY... by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Haha so boycotts and legal, nonviolent shunning are the same as racially-motivated violence to you?

      Trying to get people fired from their jobs, kicked out of universities, and even arrested goes way beyond a little civilized disagreement, and well into "persecution."

      again suggesting that you should have special protection from the consequences of this speech - just like we protect people from racial discrimination.

      Yes, that is ABSOLUTELY what I'm saying (if by "consequences" you mean "persecution"). I'm not sure what country you're from. But in the United States we do, in fact, have clear protections in both cases. Both the right to free speech and protection from racial discrimination are considered "civil rights" that all U.S. citizens enjoy (along with freedom of religion, freedom to assemble and many others).

      again suggesting that you should have special protection from the consequences of this speech

      Should a conservative be able to tell his or her employees that there will be "consequences" if any of them ever publicly supports any pro-homosexual cause? It's a private company so they don't deserve any special protection from "consequences," right? Something like: "You know, you boys are technically free to support those evil faggots trying to take our way of life away all you want--just so long as you understand there are going to be, you know, consequences...You boys understand that, right, that if you ever speak up for those queers there will be some consequences?" Some people (like me) might call that a case of an employer threatening his employees with persecution for exercising their right of free speech. But I guess a wise man like YOU recognizes that he's just warning his employees that there will be consequences for exercising certain forms of free speech.

      But opinions are not like ethnicity.

      Again, yeah they are. Both are important protected civil rights in the United States.

      You can safely change them or keep them private.

      LOL, so you're seriously arguing that we should be able to persecute anyone we want to for anything they can CHANGE? "Hey, I don't like the political party you're in asshole! Change it now or I'm going to get you fired from your job!!" Bloody hell!

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      SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
    23. Re:FTFY... by NotDrWho · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It deeply saddens me that so many people still have no idea what the right to free speech actually protects you from....

      Well, I can tell you that it sure used to not protect us against employers firing us for exercising our free speech rights, or from persecution by the local community for supporting civil rights, or from being arrested on false charges for attending a civil rights rally. We had to fight hard to get those kinds of protections--some with new laws, some with court cases, some with social changes.

      Now this new generation is trying to reverse all that work, saying it's okay to persecute--just as long as it's *US* doing the persecuting. That is NOT what I fought for. I didn't march for the right just to flip the fucking tables and persecute the right instead of the left. That just makes *US* the assholes now.

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      SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
    24. Re:FTFY... by NotDrWho · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, and FUCK YOU right back, kid--for co-opting the liberal movement that I used to stand with and turning it into something just as oppressive and mean-spirited as the right-wing assholes who used to throw rocks at us. Thanks for taking a movement about equality and decency and turning it into a movement that just reversed who's doing the oppressing.

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      SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
    25. Re:FTFY... by RoLi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Irrelevant - once the mechanism is there, it will be abused.

      SJWs are yearning for complete arbitrary exclusion of any other opinion. Basically they think that if only the world would become a giant echo-chamber it would be a better place.

      These are seriously sick people.

      Just look at "WillAffleckUW" above. It is a fact that the 1950s meant (at least in the US) a period of great prosperity and low crime.

      As a result "WillAffleckUW" thinks that everybody who has something good to say about the 1950 is a aryanbrotherhoodmemberwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

      You see how they can easily imagine violence or threats?

  2. So no Trump campaigning? by Etherwalk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Prohibiting "behavior intended to harass, intimidate, or use fear to silence another user's voice"? Does that include the hate speech against muslims that has become a part of the Trump campaign's effort to get votes? The hate speech against "the great Satan" you get out of some in the middle-east? The hate speech again Israel you get out of millions of people worldwide? The hate speech against Palestine you get out of Israel? The hate speech against ISIS you get out Paris in the wake of the terrorist attacks? The hate speech against Parisian Jews you get out of Parisian Muslims?

    Isolationist, anti-foreigner Joe McCarthyism, Anti-Semitism, Donald-Trumpism, there is always someone trying to use fear and hate as part of a power grab in a country's domestic political narrative. Do we really want corporate leadership at Twitter to be in charge of deciding when that's okay and when it should be censored?

  3. Re:Or maybe just abuse by Bremen24601 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Far too many people believe that dissenting opinions are threatening and abusive in and of themselves.

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    Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt. --Herbert Hoover
  4. Re:Or maybe just abuse by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems odd you can’t voice a dissenting opinion without what amounts to threatening violence to express your political opinion.

    This rule won't be used to ban users who threaten violence. It will be used to ban those all who disagree with the orthodox radical-leftist ideology of Silicon Valley SJW's. "Hate speech" has long-ago been broadened on the radical left to not only include speech which ACTUALLY threatens violence, but all speech which the hearer BELIEVES to be threatening, or intimidating, or to create a "hostile environment," or to be even remotely critical of them, etc, etc.

    In other words, it won't be used against posts saying "I'm going to kill you" (which are already illegal). It's going to be used against any post that disagrees with a very specific radical ideology.

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    SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
  5. these arent negotiable, and never were. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Twitter is a business. You, the cattle, are free to imbibe at the trough so long as you dont:
    1. kick or bite other cattle
    2. produce bad milk. Just because youre the biggest user of the pasture, doesnt mean you own the farm.

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    Good people go to bed earlier.
  6. Re:Nice! by dywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if you cant post your "dissenting opinion" without "threatening people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability or disease", then you have some issues you need to work on.

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    The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
  7. Here's a suggestion... by nuckfuts · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Instead of

    "You may not promote violence against or directly attack or threaten other people on the basis of..."

    How about

    "You may not promote violence against or directly attack or threaten other people." PERIOD

  8. Can’t joke about violence: no freedom of spe by Theovon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don’t joke about harming people. It’s stupid and rude. Hell, I don’t joke about harming terrorists. I just make statements about how they need to be stopped. And there are a few cases that I believe are criminal, like threatening to kill the US president. Anyone who threatens to commit voilence or even jokes about it deserves to be smacked around (but in a figurative sense, of course).

    That being said, I think that explicitly prohibiting statements like this is a can of worms that you don’t want to deal with.

    Actually, twitter prohibiting this kind of speech is totally legal, because it’s a private business.

    But what I’m concerned about is any time a stupid joke can be taken too seriously by humorless people in authority, and some kid’s life gets ruined because they had a moron moment.

    I guess what I’m trying to say is that I believe that, with the exception of a few very rare cases, all speech should be protected, no matter how stupid it is.

    And don’t get me started on this “safe zone” bullshit that’s been popping up at universities.

  9. Re:Nice! by _KiTA_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if you cant post your "dissenting opinion" without "threatening people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability or disease", then you have some issues you need to work on.

    Ok, lets talk about what they claim, and how this will go down in reality. Because Twitter has a really bad track record of saying one thing and enforcing another.

    For example. There is a delightful young transwoman named Sarah Nyberg who has been harassing gamers on twitter for months now. (But that's ok, because harassing neuroatypical white males is socially acceptable. Especially if they're overweight and straight, too.)

    Sarah Nyberg is a pedophile. She openly admits this. She also openly admits that she took photos of her 8 year old niece in her underwear and shared them online. She openly admits that doing so gave her an erection.

    She admits all of this, but that it was ok because some people were rude to her and that's somehow worse.

    TALKING about this, due to Sarah Nyberg being part of the SJW clique, results in you being mass-reported by a botnet and your account auto-locked by Twitter's algorithms until you delete the "harassing" posts.

    The people doing this openly brag about doing this. Twitter does not care.

    Twitter can post all the fluff pieces about how this is going to combat trolls and harassers they want. People who have been the victim of this passive agressive "crybullying" know that the authoritarian nutjobs involved claim any disagreement with their socio-political views is "harassment" or "Cyberviolence" and that Twitter apparently agrees with them.