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ATF Puts Up Surveillance Cameras Around Seattle ... To Catch Illegal Grease Dump (muckrock.com)
v3rgEz writes: Last summer, Seattleites noticed that utility poles around town were showing some odd growths: A raft of surveillance cameras that, under Seattle's strict surveillance equipment laws, shouldn't have been there without disclosure and monitoring. But Seattle Police said that they weren't theirs, and one enterprising citizen followed up with a series of public records requests, only to discover that they were actually the ATF's cameras — on the watch for grease dumpers. Now the requester is fighting for the full list of federal surveillance watching over Seattle, and answers to how often federal agencies pursue what appear to be purely local crimes.
Couldn't they sell it instead of dumping it?
What kinds of questions are on these odd, growth afflicted, utility polls?
Dumping grease on the grass, so we got to set up cameras and catch the slimy devils.
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Why is the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms interested in illegal grease dumping? Illicit grease disposal is a potential environmental, water quality, and combustion hazard issue; but that's more the EPA's thing, perhaps local authorities, maybe FBI if it's a interstate conspiracy.
Does somebody think that Tyler Durden is skimming off the grease to manufacture nitroglycerin for Project Mayhem and his anarcho-primitivist insurgency?
Grease dumping? Grease dumping?
1) How the hell does that fall under the ATF's jurisdiction?
2) Who dumps something they can sell as a (heating) fuel?
3) Does Seattle actually have that much of a problem with french fries that they need federal intervention?
4) Why can't you dump a biodegradable substance? Better bulldozed into an empty lot than rotting in a landfill for 150 years...
I guess its been a huge problem for a while: http://www.seattlepi.com/local...
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You still need to refine and filter used grease to make bio diesel. That costs money on the small scale and oil prices have been dropping lately.
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We'll just get the feds to do all the monitoring and share their information because they don't have to listen to the local ordinance. It's like the local departments that use the federal civil forfeiture rules when their city or state tells them they can't steal from their citizens anymore. I wish federal courts would start smacking departments that do this hard, both collectively and individual officers and higher.
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WTF does the ATF have to do with illegal grease dumping? What's that? Nothing at all?
They have neither the jurisdiction nor the interest in these crimes. If they're claiming it's for policing this kind of stuff, it's a big fucking lie.
This is just making shit up to allow them to put up cameras, against local laws, and then refuse to explain what the hell they're doing.
Yet more evidence that law enforcement doesn't give a crap about the law.
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If the ATF is monitoring the sewers for secret bomb makers, dumping cooking grease into a storm drain would create a false positive. Watch fight club if you don't understand how to make explosives from used fat. Restaurants are supposed to have grease traps to prevent grease from going into the sewer in large quantities, but those cost money to clean out. It is common for low end restaurants to illegally dump their grease. Installing a camera to see if it is restaurant employees are dumping grease straight into the sewer drain seems more reasonable than A. a stake out with people in a car for X weeks until the grease dumped is discovered or B. a military style raid based on a false positive. But that doesn't mean people shouldn't question it, just that there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for the ATF to be interested in illegal grease dumping, ie eliminating a false positive.
Glad they only use surveillance to get terrorists. Lipid terrorism here
thug on a phone: Yeah Tony look, we need to lay low for a bit...yeah....no I know its arriving this Saturday but see listen...those cameras? Yeah...on the pole at 23rd street Tony just look at em....of course! they know Tony...THEY know about the grease man its only a matter of time before they figure it....what?.....jesus christ Tony you're a genius.....Nobody would ever suspect it....yeah of course I've had McDonalds!
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Damn that's one thing I hate about going into Seattle...
This isn't a local crime. If someone is dumping greasy, it's a crime against the world and humanity. If it's not already, it should be a federal crime. I sure hope the EPA catches them and tosses the fuckers in jail for an extremely long time.
Grease = tryglycerides = fatty acids + glycerin
Glycerin + Nitric acid = Nitroglycerin
Nitroglycerin + diatomaceous earth = Dynamite
Dynamite = Profit!
Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
Who needs God when you have Big Brother looking up your asshole?
It isn't too much of a surprise that the economics of producing biodiesel from used restaurant oil are shaky; and it also wouldn't be much of a surprise if on-site/near-site illicit dumping by individual operators looking to avoid paying for collection would be pretty common; but I am a little surprised that, if you are going to go to the trouble of collecting the stuff, it isn't economic to burn in less demanding applications.
Coal-fired power plants, say, are much less picky about the details of the fuel than internal combustion engines or combined cycle gas turbines are(plus, given the sheer volume of coal involved, you could get rid of a lot of grease without changing the behavior of the fuel by much) since the fuel doesn't interact with the intricate moving parts; and whatever nasty mixture of grease, fried food scraps, carbony bits, etc. should release more energy when burned than it takes to get burning, and probably has lower sulfur, mercury, and similar contaminant levels.
Near the coast, "bunker fuel" might also be an option. Since operating costs depend heavily on fuel costs, and there are few air quality regulations once you get out of port, large ships burn some of the nastiest dregs of oil refining that nobody else wants; because they are cheap and because it's easier to deal with very high viscosity fuels when you are operating large, purpose built, engines. Given the horrible crap that gets used, you might not even need to strain used grease for it to qualify as an improvement.
There is a simple solution to this problem. Buy a paint ball gun, and go to town.
and it also wouldn't be much of a surprise if on-site/near-site illicit dumping by individual operators looking to avoid paying for collection would be pretty common
Uh, restaurants get paid for their grease, this might not be the case right now since soybeans had a good year last year and crude is so cheap that biodiesel isn't going to be in high demand, but over the last 10+ years it's been the case. That's why people working on B90 conversions have to be sure to ask the restaurants before they take grease for their vehicle.
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The nitroglycerin can also be used to make nitrocellulose, and from there to smokeless powder, putting it squarely in the ATF's purview.
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Ah, What a wiz bang noble idea....
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Must be really greasy tobacco.
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You do realize this is Seattle we are talking about. Burning anything has reams of environmental regulations that must be followed. California had a similar problem while I lived out there 2000-2006. The easiest solution was simply to drive out into the desert at night and dump what ever you were trying to get rid of since they made it such a pain in the ass to dispose of through more reasonable means.
Here's how it actually works.
The BATF is old and outdated, whose duties should properly be broken up and parcelled out to more relevant federal agencies (FDA, FBI, and so on).
Consequently, every couple of years they look for a big flashy bust that will put them in the news to justify their budget.
And so in recent years the BATF has given us Ruby Ridge massacre, the siege at Waco, the "fast and furious" scandal (where the BATF gave guns to the Mexican drug cartels, said guns were later used to kill a US border patrol agent), amd so on and so on.
So that's the situation. A worthless pack of screw-ups looking to justify their budget every couple of years.
Look for some clueless McDonald's owner to get caught illegally dumping grease, and paraded in front of the cameras for a few months.
The BATF is a stupid, worthless department(*) that was moved from the Treasury department to the Justice department as part of the Homeland Security act.
(*) Here's a quote from Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wisc.):
“The ATF is a scandal-ridden, largely duplicative agency that lacks a clear mission. Its 'Framework' is an affront to the Second Amendment and yet another reason why Congress should pass the ATF Elimination Act,"
Understanding how an editor -- or anyone else -- could read "utility poll" without immediately correcting it, is quite beyond my capacity.
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... is not a "purely local crime". Those unruly rivers have a nasty tendency to flow right past State boundaries.
Perhaps the ATF can help us catch the idiots that dump old couches, broken dishwashers, and old tires along the roads too? Since apparently they are watching us anyway?
Firearms and Explosives => FBI
Alcohol and tobacco => FDA
That's a stretch. There's better ways to accomplish that without leaving a trail. Surveillance is just getting more and more pervasive. I shudder to think what it will be like in a couple of decades. Just think how safe we'd all be if everyone wore a tracking device where our benevolent leaders could know where we were and what we were doing at any time. Glorious.
Grease can also be used as an animal feed supplement. My chickens love bacon grease, or used frying oil mixed with their feed. I don't understand why anyone would just dump perfectly good grease. It should be easy to find someone to take it, and possibly even pay for it.
My guess is that the grease is just a cover story, and the real purpose of the cameras is something else entirely.
Biodiesel is a huge win on smallish boats. Diesel fumes make many people sick. Biodiesel fumes just make people want to eat french fries.
The nitroglycerin can also be used to make nitrocellulose
Actually, nitrocellulose is made from ... cellulose. So the government should be watching for anyone using wood or paper.
Couldn't they sell it instead of dumping it?
They would probably make a lot more selling all the bullshit in that "We're just looking for grease dumpers" story as fertilizer.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
My guess is that you're a paranoid anti-government dope, who spins trying to catch polluters into a nefarious plot.
Sabotage the camera (if you don't want to do actual damage, tape a laser pointer to a sign post and flood the lens with light, spray the lens using your drone, float a helium balloon in front of it, etc.), wait to see who comes to repair it, then follow them back to their office.
There is no restaurant at 23rd and Union. However, there is a fairly high-profile, legal pot store. Weird. But yeah, back to talking about grease dumping.
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That seems like a... unique way to get around local surveillance disclosure laws: Ask the feds to do the surveillance for you, and just piggy back on them. It's a disingenuous attempt to circumvent the law, sure, but it is awfully creative.
Ask yourself why the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms is hunting down grease dumping instead of, say, the EPA?
I suspect that there is a lot of water in the grease that would be hard to remove and would make it hard to burn also.
Pretty much. Unless people are making alcohol, firearms, or Tabacco out of the grease I don't see why they are involved.
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How do your chickens feel about hash brown potatoes?
This could be big, eliminate two items from breakfast but still have the same arterial clogging.
Find a statin manufacturer and apply for a grant right away.
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Yup, when asked why they were there, someone thought fast..." Yes, it's to catch.......grease dumpers..... Ya thats what they're for...grease dumpers......Because there are not laws against catching grease dumpers are there.....
Maybe they are monitoring for grease payments .
Waste oil burning heaters are very simple and easy. you can easily use this stuff and burn it cleanly to generate power, hot water, or even just heat for a building.
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I live in sw washingtion (vancouver) and there are military grade surveillance equipment on almost every intersection. Black bubble cameras and big flat plates aimed at the roadways. It looks like they are connected with some kind of wifi.
If anything, the problem now is Grease THEIVES, swiping it to use in their own diesels or fencing it.
The degree of law-breaking by a federal agency is proportional to the level of pathetic bullshit offered as cover.
Actually once you get to the nitroglycerin step you are squarely in the ATF's purview, since they regulate explosives. "ATF" is an anachronistic acronym; since 1970 agency's full actual name is "The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives".
But glycerin is a commonplace an innocuous chemical widely used in cosmetics and food; you can buy it by the barrel without raising any eyebrows. It makes no sense to reason that fats are under the purview of ATF because you can produce glycerin from it.
I tried to google the source of the grease story, and it appears that back in 2011 SCL asked for ATF's technical assistance in tracking down grease dumpers, but that the camera placements currently in question are for use in a current investigation by the Puget Sound Regional Crime Gun Task Force.
So no big mystery about why the ATF is tracking down grease dumpers, that's just a misreading of the evidence trail.
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Unlikely. Getting your oil up to 350 degrees gets rid of the water content pretty fast. Throwing it into a diesel engine makes the water content insignificant.
What is the ATF's interest in grease, of all things?
They may already be watching. Better file that FOIA request.
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Alcohol, Tobacco, and Fryers?
far more likely. Why would ATF be involved. It's the weed ya'll.
Don't normally respond to ACs, but the closest link I could think of is that the BATF is actually the BATFE today, they added in explosives a while ago.
One of the ingredients of your standard 'fertilizer bomb' is generally diesel, but most high-lipid sources would do.
That being said, it's the other half of the bomb formula that's actually hard to get, as opposed to pulling up to any fueling station with some yellow cans. Well, the color doesn't really matter, but yellow is the convention for diesel.
Still, as you say, this is an overreach by the ATF, and should have been done by the EPA in concert with local authorities.
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Add it to Ammonium Nitrate and you get ANFO, a different explosive.
Still, it's the Nitrates that get people's attention, you can buy diesel pretty much anywhere.
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Depends on how much you like your car. Mythbusters tested unaltered (well they ran it through some coffee filters) cooking oil in a diesel car and it ran fine. I imagine over time it would clog components and cause some nasty deposits but who knows, maybe simply running some normal diesel and some of those "gum out" additives might clean it out. There would be one big limitation, running it in winter would be a big no no. Normal diesel is bad enough at freezing in the lines in northern climates let alone cooking oil.
It may also have to do with legalization... Want to keep tabs on those who purchase.
Perhaps its more nefarious.. someone call Sherlock
Look up "Civil Asset Forfeiture" and you'll see that local police departments have been 'teaming' up with the Feds for years to bypass local and state controls in order to seize money that they can funnel straight into their departments.
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This was my first thought. My neighbor built a big garage a couple of years ago and installed a waste oil burner for heat. So long as there aren't big bits of crap in the oil it will happily accept it. For cooking oil I just drive the moisture off (by using it to season my cast iron cook ware), filter it and add it to his tank. For motor oil, gear oil, transmission fluid, etc I just add them to his tank.
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what else would be a criminal act that isn't local to where the crime took place???
I have a friend who runs his VW Jetta on used cooking oil. During the winter, he has a small heating unit in the gas tank to prevent gelling.
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It isn't too much of a surprise that the economics of producing biodiesel from used restaurant oil are shaky; and it also wouldn't be much of a surprise if on-site/near-site illicit dumping by individual operators looking to avoid paying for collection would be pretty common; but I am a little surprised that, if you are going to go to the trouble of collecting the stuff, it isn't economic to burn in less demanding applications.
Could be that their fuel tax has something to do with it:
A free barrel of grease used for fuel now costs $18.69 in Washington State.
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The cameras are said to be use for some grease dumping project. That doesn't mean that they are. That's just a cover for whatever they are there for, looking for Meth labs or some such. Let's not go overboard on the wrong problems.
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My guess is that the grease is just a cover story, and the real purpose of the cameras is something else entirely.
You are correct.
"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives, and Grease"
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I see you have a greasy hamburger from Dick's and some fries.
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the better question is what are they REALLY looking for. I dont buy this story that they are looking for grease in the slightest, its not their job
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It isn't too much of a surprise that the economics of producing biodiesel from used restaurant oil are shaky
My guess is that you haven't even bothered to look at the economics of producing biodiesel from WVO.
For small hobbyist-level winter-safe B100 refinement, the total costs amount to roughly $3/gal. Besides economies of scale, there are multiple ways to subsidize that, not least charging a modest fee for disposal including clean-up, and selling the glycerine to soap-makers and others. If you maintain the fleet which runs on the B100, the savings on maintenance costs also start to reveal themselves.
Basically, you haven't got a clue, and you decided to tell the world.
So if money is your driving factor you should convert from B100 to gasoline and save over 33%.
You still need to refine and filter used grease to make bio diesel. That costs money on the small scale and oil prices have been dropping lately.
Yet, theft of that type of grease is rampant around where I live. People steal grease then process it into fuel (or more likely, put it in their own dumpsters to make more money off the recyclers.)
There are locks and security cameras pointing at them in a lot of places now.
And diesel costs about $3.00 a gallon in the area, so using your own figures making biodiesel production a VERY shaky proposition. Why go to the considerable trouble and mess to make biodiesel when you can get it from the hose for the same price? Plus it won't freeze up on you at 32 degrees F. Biodiesel will, and it doesn't take that long. I had it happen to me when I ran Bio in my Duramax. You should have seen the fuel filter--completely clogged with a viscous mess.
Perhaps it is you who does not have a clue here. The original poster is correct.
How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
It isn't too much of a surprise that the economics of producing biodiesel from used restaurant oil are shaky;
That would be a fairly new phenomenon and still makes economic sense in many countries. Any refinery with a hydrocracker (lots of them) can supplement their crude feed with all sorts of things. I have witnessed a refinery run 20% tallow through their cracker without any measurable change in product quality at the end and that made economic sense back when crude was cheap (cheap being 40-50$/bbl). I've seen refineries inject palm oil into their feed to, that doesn't even need cracking, just hydrotreating. The economics of that can make sense even at todays prices due to the import tax on crude oil in some countries but lack of import tax on "food items".
But as you said that's if you bother treating it at all. Bunker fuel has a lot of scope for blending nasties into it, but if you already purchased the material it often makes much more sense to crack it into something more valuable. The economics are such that you nearly always want to minimise the creation of bunker fuel. The world is hungry for diesel and petrol, not so much other products.
Thank you for your post. I love hearing other people critical of the sensationalist news' version of events (and their often misleading headlines).
Maybe it's not actually grease dumping they're watching out for. This is in Seattle, it could be large amounts of used coffee grounds clogging up the sewers.
Posted by timothy on Tuesday January 12, 2016
Ah, that explains it.
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Grease can also be used as an animal feed supplement. My chickens love bacon grease, or used frying oil mixed with their feed. I don't understand why anyone would just dump perfectly good grease. It should be easy to find someone to take it, and possibly even pay for it.
My guess is that the grease is just a cover story, and the real purpose of the cameras is something else entirely.
It's PETA looking for people feeding grease to chickens.. or so I've heard.
...and 0bama is whining about how the ATF doesn't have resources to enforce existing firearms laws. Why the hell are they investigating grease dumpers?
Solution: Quadcopter. Camera. Paint ball gun with some sturdy thick, solvent based paint. If the paint won't cover it, the solvents will render them useless.
My guess is that the grease is just a cover story, and the real purpose of the cameras is something else entirely.
That's my guess also.
The emails and things have a discussion about a camera near 23rd ave and Jackson, and one of the people in the emails guesses that it might have been placed on the pole by Walgreen's, to monitor their parking lot. Here is a link to Google Maps, centered right about the power pole in question. Here is a direct link to street view looking right at the camera mounted on the pole. If you look around, you'll notice that there are no drains on the street in that area where someone would pour grease. The closest drains are at the intersection of Jackson and 23rd, and there are poles that would have a much better view of those drains than the pole with the camera (and it's a little conspicuous to pour grease down the drain at an intersection with lights). The Google car drove around that parking lot, and if you wander around there you'll notice that the camera isn't on the pole in those shots. Directly in front of the Magic Dragon Chinese restaurant (next to Papa Murphy's pizza), there's a drain cover that does actually look a little bit stained (weird, I know). But there is a pole that is closer to that drain and restaurant, and still, why the hell would the ATF care about people dumping grease down a street drain?
If you go back to where the pole with the camera is in street view and look at the parking lot across Jackson, there are a couple women walking through the parking lot wearing hijabs. There's a store/restaurant back there called East African Imports, next to the Navy recruiting office, and it looks like there's also a marker for the Islamic Presentation and Invitation Center, which lists an address at 2301 S Jackson, which is that corner.
I bet the ATF/FBI is watching the Muslims instead of grease dumpers, but I should probably just get back to work.
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This point can't be overemphasized. I remember when they made it unreasonably inconvenient and costly to dispose of CRTs. Every street corner had at least one old TV or VGA monitor sitting on it, sometimes for weeks.
Just another unfunded mandate for the citizenry.
Actually, my bad! I went by a gas station this afternoon and diesel is $2.06 a gallon. So you can make it for $3.00 or buy it for $2.06.
Such a deal.
How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
That someone might steal hundreds of pounds of bacon grease, melt it down to get the glycerin from it, then turn it into an explosive, because some terrorist watched an old movie from the WW2 era, and saw an old b&w newsreel that showed the scrap drives for aluminum, rubber, bacon grease and looked on wickipedia or google to find out why there was a demand for bacon grease and then discovered the glycerin could be used as an explosive and that way they could fly under the radar of the ATF buy not having to buy fuel oil & fertilizer. Or I could be wrong LOL. Oh, I'm sure the ATF is ONLY looking for grease dumpers/thieves LOL.
A lot of communities have only had local purchasers show up the last few years, and other places people still have to pay to dump. Yes, some restaurants get paid a token amount. No, all restaurants do not have that available. It is not a standard thing. The standard thing was always having to pay to have it dumped, same as other waste.
What if it turns out that your chickens eat a smaller amount of grease than restaurants produce? What then?
It may be that it is very low quality as a food source, and a fire danger to store and process it, and expensive to transport it because of the weight and special equipment needed.
Ask yourself why the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms is hunting down grease dumping instead of, say, the EPA?
I don't have to ask myself that, because I already know that the three things that were used for the acronym and the department title are just words, and that the specific things that they have the responsibility to investigate is determined by congress. There is a lot of politics that goes into which agency gets which turf, and sometimes it changes over time.
If you would prefer the EPA to investigate, that would be some sort of proposal to send to your congressperson. It has no bearing at all on the question of which agency is responsible for this investigation now.
It may be that illegal dumping results in fires, and is lumped in with explosives because fire danger caused by ignoring rules is the major thing that the ATF is combating in their enforcement, and that explosives are lumped in with firearms because historically fire danger to whole cities was one of the problems relating to the firearm industry that resulted in public demand for regulation.
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As to why 23rd and Jackson? Nothing jumps out. But drugs plus anything equals federal case.
Yup. It's the BATFE and has been for a while. I might be biased but I think that would make a better big box store than a government body. It's be the ultimate one-stop shop for 4th of July preparations. At least the store, as I'm picturing it, would be the most awesome store ever. I might be nearing 60 but, damn it, that sound like my kind of place.
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My question too. ATF investigating grease dumpers? Pull the other one; it has bells on.
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one step further... tnt is really just a bunch of carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, and hydrogen (and castle reruns)... so better contain and control all sources of those elements, too.
As Homer Simpson discovered, you can try to break into the grease industry. However Big Grease will eventually come and shut you down!
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I fucking LOVE the low price of oil. FUCK YEAH to low oil prices.
My guess is that the grease is just a cover story, and the real purpose of the cameras is something else entirely.
Correct. The purpose is blanket surveillance with no independent oversight of innocent citizens.
I bet the ATF/FBI is watching the Muslims instead of grease dumpers, but I should probably just get back to work.
It may be a case of that all-too-rare animal, the Muslim grease dumper.