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Iran Complies With Nuclear Deal; Sanctions Lifted (nytimes.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Iran has shipped most of its nuclear fuel out of the country, destroyed the innards of a plutonium-producing reactor and mothballed more than 12,000 centrifuges. This compliance with the nuclear accord struck in July has caused the U.S. and Europe to lift financial sanctions on Iran, releasing ~$100 billion in assets. "Under the new rules put in place, the United States will no longer sanction foreign individuals or firms for buying oil and gas from Iran. The American trade embargo remains in place, but the government will permit certain limited business activities with Iran, such as selling or purchasing Iranian food and carpets and American commercial aircraft and parts. It is an opening to Iran that represents a huge roll of the dice, one that will be debated long after Mr. Obama he has built his presidential library. It is unclear what will happen after the passing of Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has protected and often fueled the hardliners — but permitted these talks to go ahead."
... just before the US economy collapses.
During election time, if Israel doesn't like it, then expect every candidate to dance for Israeli money.
About 20% (> $500 million) of the $3.15 billion that flows into Israel as military defense aid, flows back into US politics via commercial conduits (Israeli/US companies that receive lucrative government contracts, whose US subsidiary in turns drives US politics directly and indirectly.
So a large part of this election cycle will be dominated by pro-Israel lobbies.
Are naieve. Iran continues to enrich bomb-grade nuclear fuel in underground/concealed sites.
Did you know about the latest patients issued by Apple for the new mic jack and foldable smartphones? Welp if the editors at /. did their jobs we could be talking about that instead ...
Iran didn't like the centrifuges with systemd and enrichd?
will be debated long after Mr. Obama he has built his presidential library
What?
Another pure political topic with no tech relevance. slashdot has become a very mediocre, even bad tech news web site. Much like Fox News is for politics.
Yes. He always stands against America.
And the proof is always that his kind stand against common sense laws. Just this week he said he wanted the government to go door to door to search for guns, but he didn't support common sense laws to put all of those gunz owners in prison.
Iftz inky imminsenze to support cinfizationie.
He only mildly supports going door to door which makes him a racist republican that wants us to die. Wants us to die.
What a great achievement for the Obama administration. Hopefully we won't piss it away with the coming wave of rising Islamophobia. I could imagine some politicians *cough*Trump*cough* reinstating the sanctions with the justification that their theocratic regime is inherently evil.
On the other hand, the handling of the Iranian protests after the sketchy election isn't doing them any favors in that regard.
The real question is, did the strikes against nuclear scientists, and sabotage of centrifuge SCADAs help contribute to this deal.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
Yes. Those republicanz wantz death 4 us.
This. Gun laws w/o the door 2 two arenet
Surely Iran won't secretly develop nukes anyway with all the billions they get from the sanctions being lifted. This totally won't lead to bad consequences for anyone because giving nuclear weapons to people who are literally insane religious fanatics is a great idea and Iran would therefore never do that.
Surely Israel won't catch on to this and go after them. Again, no one is sure to overreact when this happens. The middle east is well known for a millenia long history of high quality rational discourse. Combined with pacifism.
Surely the next US president will be just as dickless and gullible as Obama. Because if they aren't, wow is Iran suddenly going to be fucked.
The time to NUKE EM NOW!
Where is TRUMP in the Whitehouse when you really need him!
Republicans want what most people want - for you to get mental health treatment. Please, see a doctor or therapist. You have something terribly wrong with you and it is likely to get worse if you don't.
Yuo. I remember when this site was about some cool new mod for a window manager, now its just a feed of the usual 'news' crap you can get anywhere but on a 6 hour delay with a bunch of snark. I appreciate the snark but these days its just low hanging fruit. How the mighty have fallen...
Iran have seen the light - from the sun and realised it's much cheaper to use solar panels and renewables than to waste huge amounts of money on more expensive systems like nuclear power.
Waterfox - a Firefox fork with legacy extension support, security updates and better privacy by default.
Those in need of mental health treatment being told to seek it on their own, probably has the same kind of track record as corporations self regulating...
Go back on your meds, you're having delusions, my Ass has more chance of being elected than that sick fuck.
People like you are the reason we put instructions on shampoo.
Another bad side effect of Citizens United ruling, is that multinationals with US subsidiaries are free to spend lobbying money on politicians. It's bad now, but wait till Chinese companies with US subsidiaries start buying up politicians.
They can ship money around internally in the company in plain site, and there's nothing the US can do about it, then buy up candidates at will.
Citizens United is a disaster.
Is is interesting that Saudi Arabia is considered "one of Americas friends" yet it is not democracy.
At least Iran is a democracy with elections - probably the most stable democracy in the middle east (definitely the largest.)
It is good to see sanity prevailing.
Iran needs lots of either solar power or nuclear power to move away from being a carbon based economy. Not just because oil is becoming less valuable (now ~25% of its peak price) but because of pollution. Visit Tehran on a bad day and you'll understand. At least as bad as Los Angeles or Bejing ever were. Iran needs electric cars (Hello Tesla!.) During the summer they have almost three straight months of sunshine. Iran needs cheap solar power to combat pollution. The world needs Iran to move away from being a carbon based economy to one that benefits heavily from solar power.
Another win for cool, calm diplomacy.
Yes, we have to be vigilant. As Reagan used to say, "Trust, but verify". We are certainly building ties that will hopefully allow Iran to rejoin the international community in the decades to come. Just like we did with Germany after WW2 and the Soviet Union after the Cold War.
Is it smooth roads ahead? No, of course not. International diplomacy never is. They sure aren't with Russia right now, but that doesn't mean that the diplomatic work in the 80s with them was a mistake.
But between the nuclear deal, the quite prompt release of the Americans that drifted into their waters earlier this week, and talk about the prisoner exchange all seems to be heading in the right direction.
Help! I'm a slashdot refugee.
That is certainly NOT a "purely political" story; although I can understand why someone would make that mistake. It's a story about the decline of technology in the United States caused by those who make money favoring secret actions by secret U.S. government organizations.
NSA = No Sales for America.
Boeing Might Lose $4B Brazil Deal For F-18 Jets After NSA Surveillance Scandal; Analysts Say Politics Won't Trump Business (09/12/13)
Three months later: President Dilma Rousseff Announces Brazil Is Buying Sweden's Saab Gripen Jet Fighters (12/18/13)
NSA = Not a Sensible Arrangement.
The NSA does not provide "Security". Instead, the secrecy makes everyone feel insecure. Anyone can claim that a secret organization did something destructive; that's an easy sale when a small group wants violence. Suppose an NSA manager wants a promotion. The manager can arrange something likely to cause violence; there is no outside review; new violence can be used as a reason for new authority.
Consider the Culture of fear. Nazi leader Hermann Goring: "The people don't want war, but they can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."
Quote from that same Wikipedia page: 'Former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski argues that the use of the term War on Terror was intended to generate a culture of fear deliberately because it "obscures reason, intensifies emotions and makes it easier for demagogic politicians to mobilize the public on behalf of the policies they want to pursue." '
Another quote: "... journalist Adam Curtis argues that politicians have used our fears to increase their power and control over society."
NSA = No Structural Authority.
There are complicated problems in running ANY organization. Managing secret organizations sensibly is impossible. Each manager of a secret organization has an excuse to hide his or her mistakes. There can be no outside ideas to fix problems because no outsiders are allowed to know what is happening.
Backdoors:
The U.S. government allows secret government agencies to go to any executive in any company, make demands for "security", and threaten the executive with prison if he or she doesn't do what the secret agency wants. Is that the reason that U.S. computer equipment has backdoors? We are not allowed to know. Secret agencies are allowed to lie, so even if an agency says it didn't force a backdoor, no one can know if the statement is true.
A few of the many stories about backdoors in U.S. hardware:
D-Link: Reverse Engineering a D-Link Backdoor (Oct. 12, 2013)
Arris: 600,000 Arris cable modems have 'backdoors in backdoors', researcher claims (Nov. 20, 2015)
Juniper Networks: Juniper drops NSA-developed code following new backdoor revelations (Jan. 10, 2016)
Cisco: Snowden: The NSA planted backdoors in Cisco products (May 15, 2014)
Netgear
Uhm, it is a 'democracy' where eligibility is limited by a religious council, ultimate power is held by a not-popular-elected (not even indirectly) individual with potentially dictatorial authority, suspicion of massive voting fraud exists, where independent polling organisations are closed down to hide this, and where the press is severely limited ("one of the world’s most repressive in 2014" ; Last but 7 in 2015).
Please remember: "Voting not a democracy make."
I say this as a European and not a warmonger or neocon:
1. What's the point with seismographs? If they register a detonation, it means that Iran then has a bomb and the efforts to prevent them were futile. What do you do then? Remind them that they broke their promises?
2. The facilities are not deep underground just to be hidden, they're there so that they can withstand bombings.
I have no good solution to propose since Iran is not a democracy ruled by elected rational people, it's a theocracy.
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It's Iran's money. Money people paid them for the oil they sold. That the USA can just steal that money would scare the shit out of those places, if it weren't for the fact that they're all pally with the USA (at the moment), and Iraq is an occupied puppet state a la Vichy France.
Found the lefty-liberal SJW ^
The US planes may be better in many respects but with US domestic politics as unstable as it is...who knows if the US would let them buy the planes.
However I would expect Iran Air to order a lot of spare parts for the 7 747 boeing planes it already owns and perhaps purchase additional boeing planes on the open market (there are plenty available).
Best? Would have been much better to give the money to the victims of Irans terrorism.
Enlightenment 20 is out. Comes with Wayland support which is cool. I'm itching to make an image for it to just to give it a test run :)
is that the Obama administration dropped all the serious requirements, which they swore they would not drop, during negotiations. As a result, the Iranians are NOT in compliance with the terms team Obama promised the American people and America's allies would be in place. They are only in "compliance" with requirements that do not matter, are not enforceable, and were acceptable to Iran (the people who, by defintintion, were not trusted and therefore needed to get into compliance with some restrictions). Examples:
1. We were promised that Obama would only make a deal that require 24/7 site monitoring. No such live monitoring will occur
2. We were promised that all sites would be inspected. The Iranians will not allow any military sites to be monitored (therefore thay will be able to do ANYTHING, unmonitored, as long as it's at a "military site"
3. We were promised that the Iranians would account for all violations and activities preceeding the "deal" so that international inspectors could establish a "baseline". Sadly, this was dropped and when IAEA inspectors recently got to the site where Iran is suspected to have tested nuclear triggers, they reported that the site had been scrubbed so thoroughly that no baselines could be established.
ANYBODY can "pass" ANY test or meet ANY set of "requirements" if you lower the standards far enough. Would you want to board a plane where the pilot only passed his tests because the standards were lowered to only be what he wanted? Would you want a surgeon to operate on you if he only passed the exams that were lowered to be what he could pass without attending medical school?
Everybody needs to remember the names Obama and Kerry and remember this date in history so that millions of future next-of-kin know where to aim their curses. Nuclear weapons in the hands of the Shiite Muslim-supremacist sponsors of most of the world's terrorism of the past 40 years is a very bad idea.
Obama and his supporters are at war against oil and coal because they claim these things lead to excess atmospheric CO2 and thus global warming, As a result, Obama has issued numerous federal "executive orders" to try to destroy the American coal industry and to suppress the oil industry whenever he can, while his backers rant against the Keystone XL pipeline etc... all to "save the planet" of course...
Then Obama cuts an insanely unwise nuke deal with Iran that not only will enable them to build nuclear weapons within 10 years and give them to terrorists, but also will allow them to flood world markets with an amazing quantity of Iranian crude oil (their biggest exportable resource, and a supply that rivals the Saudis) which is one reason why the bottom is dropping out on the price of a barrel of oil.
Gas prices will now make owning an SUV very attractive, and it will stay that way until the 1st nukes go off.
The Iranians haven't been trusted since November 1979. Oh, they'll play nice until they get what they want, then it will be back to business as usual. Just as with North Korea. Obama has a lot of work to do, until the '16 election to fully destroy the USA. Heck, I'm still of the opinion that he will stir something up before the election (especially if a Republican looks to be elected), so he can suspend the election.
wtf where is cmndr taco?
I don't want either holy land and I do not need your communist propaganda either.
...in the land of Wahabism, Iran is indeed a much brighter place.
There are Jews living in Iran for a very long time, for starters.
And women have more rights than camels, unlike in Saudi-Arabia.
But you know what ? Saud has bough the Anglosaxon elite: Battenbergs, Bushs, Clintons. And they have bought a shitload of people who claim to be lefties and commies. They play the Useful Idiots for the Mohammedanic Terror State.
The Anglos will die of their Addiction To Money.
The Kuran is one big book of violence against whoever is not part of this warmonger's club.
The agreement with Iran is about as polarizing a subject as any can be; our own nation is thoroughly divided on it, and Israel, one of the U.S.'s allies and bitter enemy of Iran, is very much violently opposed to it, to the point of perhaps being irrational in their response.
For myself, as I suspect it is for many others, I am internally divided on it, as I am both a cynic and hopeful at the same time.
On the one hand, continued hostilities towards Iran serves to maintain and promote tensions between Iran, the U.S., and many other nations, so finding a diplomatic solution that is mutually agreeable could be a good thing for everyone all around. However on the other hand I am aware that the subtext of the entire effort to come to an agreement with Iran, may be just a way to 'give them enough rope to hang themselves'; we put forth a show of trust, in the outward hope that they play it straight with us and the rest of the world, but at the same time knowing that we might have just driven their ill intent so far underground (in the literal as well as figurative sense of the word) that we can't detect it, and are biding their time until they can launch doomsday upon Israel and the U.S. and whoever else is at the top of their hit-list -- at which time, once they've been caught red-handed violating the agreement, the U.S. and it's involved allies can say "Hey, we tried! But they betrayed our trust!" and then nobody that matters will blame us for going balls-out to neutralize them once and for all.
But at the same time that my cynicism reads the potential subtext, I'm hopeful that while Irans' secular leadership is (excuse the turn of phrase here) hell-bent on destroying Israel and the U.S. and (likely) our other allies and anything that doesn't fit into their limited, rigid world-view, it's non-secular leadership is more open-minded and far-thinking, realizing that the World of today has become too small and all Irans' neighbors too close, in the literal as well as figurative sense, to allow the leadership decisions of an entire country to be guided by misguided tradition, narrow-mindedness, and hate.
The worst part of all of this, of course, is the waiting; it will take decades of waiting and watching to determine which direction this will take -- and humans, I've noted, very often do not excel at waiting.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
Not everything going according to your evil Terror Plans lately ?
Booohooo ! We paid all the money to bribe Prince Charly and now we cannot even freely bomb Chechnya and set Syria on fire completely unpunished !!! Booohooo !!!
Here is the DEAL BRUTALIST: Russia will station Iskander nuke missiles in Iran, if you try to touch Iran, like they did in Cuba.
Now proceed Camel-fucking and women-beating, USELESS SHIT.
The "Caliphate" is the creation of your ALLIES and it is FOUGHT by Iran.
So you might need to recalibrate your rantings and see how your silly Murricans are brain-screwed by your government and elite.
It was Iran who
+ set Yougoslavia on fire
+ set Chechnya on fire
+ flew into your money towers
+ bombed Bali
+ detonated pressure cookers in Boston.
OR WAS IT YOU ?
All sane people say it was Saudi money and inflammatory material. No Iran in these things whatsoever.
+ set Yougoslavia on fire
+ set Chechnya on fire
+ flew into your money towers
+ bombed Bali
+ detonated pressure cookers in Boston.
Your policies worked so well under Stalin and Mao.
That is why nobody in their sane mind would vote Trump. Communism and its ally Mohammedism are just so nice.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Levinson
So the topic started with Iran meeting some obligations of a generally easy-to-follow and
none-too-painful recipe to get their billions of dollars unfrozen and really not setting their
nuclear program back too far.
That's the topic. This whole "BUT LOOK AT THE JEWS" and "WHAT WILL THE JEWS SAY"
is a bit of a rabbit hole. For anti-semitic rabbits.
Perhaps before making up stories to confuse small children you should read some yourself.
The region was occupied by the Ottoman Empire, which you might call "Turks". That's not the UK.
In time the British Empire colonized that area and took it over from the Ottomans. That's not the UK either.
Then in 1948 the United Nations created a new country as part of that area. It wasn't a move by the UK,
although I can see how "UN" and "UK" can seem similar to someone not versed in what really happened
nor caring to be accurate.
That country is "Israel". I can see how you might think "THE JEWS" and "Israel" is the same, but it's not.
A solid foundation in history (or reading) would help alleviate this problem.
As I said, nothing to do with Iran's acceptance of the mealy-mouthed limp-dick proposal that handed them
everything they wanted on a gilded plate. Thanks so much John kerry and Barack obama.
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Here's what Jews believe of others from their talmud:
1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
16. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
17. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
19. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
20. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
21. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
22. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."
23. Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."
24. Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."
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So let's not try to make jews heros or saints, or even victims. You can clearly see what they think of you all from their own laws and yes, non-jews are Goy/Goyim and Gentiles from above, quoted straight from their own belief systems.
Their age old enemies in arabs aren't better. A religion of peace that gives you no choice but to say "there is no god but allah" and if you don't, off with your head by sword.
Funny part is, they're related. So think about that.
The Rorschach test called slashdot continues....
Anything about the middle east, vaccination, audiophiles, politics, etc. will largely a repeat of prior postings. I only come here to be exposed 'news' you won't find in Google News.
"flew into your money towers"????
An American would would have said "our towers", not "your towers", and no American called them "money towers".
Also, you cite the relatively few instances of Sunni Muslim global terror and ignore the miles-long list of Shiite Muslim terror. Personally, I am repulsed by all the terrorism of that blood moon cult no matter which screwed-up camel-herder is being followed. The Persian people were once a proud and civilized society with a reasonably decent peaceful religion (Zoroastrians) before the Arab Muslim hoards invaded and forced the ancestors of the current inhabitants to convert-or-die. Someday, hopefully, the people of Iran will wake up and throw off the false religion of their conquerors and then re-join the peaceful nations of the world. Until that day, the Iranians will remain untrustworthy slaves to the tyranny of the 1979 revolution, which attempted to double-down on the Arab Muslim oppression of Persia and whose guards have killed far more people than the twisted Shah whose bad behavior they used to justify their rise to power. Under Islam, the once-great Persian people are as screwed-up as everybody else on the planet who follows the teachings of the polygamous child molesting mass-murdering Mohammed.
Tell your mullah bosses that you need more practice pretending to be a civilized westerner.
"Coal industry was killed by technology / fracking."
No it was not, that's just the lie Democrats tell to gullible union miners in places like West Virginia. The "technology" changes were that Obama's executive orders required massive new expenditures on tech at coal plants, making those power plants too expensive to operate and thereby making more-expensive sources of energy artificially "competative". In a market not manipulated by government, coal is the cheapest form of electricity in the US.
If Keystone is so unimportant, then why is it a top priority of leftists to eliminate it? You are correct that there are MANY pipelines in the US (thereby making the point that the objections had NOTHING to do with safety or direct environmental impacts). It was however so important to progressives to kill it that Obama spent years (through several federal election cycles) delaying it without a "yes" or "no" in order to placate the greenines who paraded in the streets demanding its cancellation while not upsetting the unionized construction workers with a "no".
Ah, the oil industry subsidy lie. No, "big oil" does not get any special subsidies (transfers of cash from other taxpayers). "Big oil" gets the same R&D and other tax deductions that many other corporations get. This is in contrast to all the "renewables" favored by Obama and his robots which have been given BILLIONS of dollars in ACTUAL subsidies. If "Big Oil" got the same actual subsidies as the solar, wind, and bio people get you lefties would go positively insane. NO businesses should get subsidies from the government, including Amtrak, "Big Oil", solar panel companies, Planned Parenthood, biofuel vendors, or ANY other businesses. It should not be the business of the government to take money from taxpayers and funnel it to preferred corporations.
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I think USA is trying to replace Saudi Arabia with Iran as its Oil ally;
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