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Marvin Minsky, Pioneer In Artificial Intelligence, Dies at 88 (nytimes.com)

An anonymous reader sends word that Marvin Lee Minsky, co-founder of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's AI laboratory, has died. The Times reports: "Marvin Minsky, who combined a scientist’s thirst for knowledge with a philosopher’s quest for truth as a pioneering explorer of artificial intelligence, work that helped inspire the creation of the personal computer and the Internet, died on Sunday night in Boston. He was 88. Well before the advent of the microprocessor and the supercomputer, Professor Minsky, a revered computer science educator at M.I.T., laid the foundation for the field of artificial intelligence by demonstrating the possibilities of imparting common-sense reasoning to computers."

76 comments

  1. From his Wikipedia article: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Isaac Asimov described Minsky as one of only two people he would admit were more intelligent than he was."

    Wow.

    1. Re: From his Wikipedia article: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The other was Carl Sagan.

    2. Re: From his Wikipedia article: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess he never met von Neumann, then.

    3. Re: From his Wikipedia article: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably.

    4. Re:From his Wikipedia article: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, indeed.

      Reminds me of Zaphod Beeblebrox:

      "If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now!"

  2. My favorite quote by tgv · · Score: 2

    Heard it from a teacher who had heard it from Minsky, but it's probably not literal anymore, after all those years: consciousness is just a feedback loop.

    He was truly one of the greats.

    1. Re:My favorite quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know man, in the first line of your post, I learned more than I did in a semester long AI class. You're awesome (no sarcasm).

    2. Re:My favorite quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Err, OK dear. It's "just" a feedback loop. Recursion. That's not really Minsky is it. It's Hofstadter. And amazing as recursion is, I don't think my binary search algorithm is actually instantiating a series of conscious moments.

    3. Re:My favorite quote by Capt.Albatross · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Heard it from a teacher who had heard it from Minsky, but it's probably not literal anymore, after all those years: consciousness is just a feedback loop.

      He was truly one of the greats.

      Calling consciousness 'just' a feedback loop is just a way of avoiding saying 'I don't understand what it is.'

    4. Re:My favorite quote by tgv · · Score: 1

      There's more behind that idea than a simple "I don't know". It's of course aphoristic, but if you think of the mind/brain as monitoring all input, adding a feedback loop allows it to monitor itself. It allows learning from decisions, and allows to predict consequences of choices. That is a necessary, although not sufficient part of consciousness.

    5. Re: My favorite quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think of the mind/brain as a mechanism, you're already wrong.

    6. Re:My favorite quote by John+Allsup · · Score: 2

      The only issue with the quote is 'just'. Any recursive process is a feedback loop, feeding the state at stage n as input to produce the state at stage n+1. Likewise, any dynamical system is 'just' a feedback loop, the state at time t being input to a set of rules that determine the state at time t+dt (before you do the limiting stuff, though you can use nonstandard analysis to avoid issues with dt being infinitely small).

      Something as complex as consciousness would surely be impossible in the absence of feedback loops.

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      John_Chalisque
    7. Re: My favorite quote by khallow · · Score: 2

      If you think of the mind/brain as a mechanism, you're already wrong.

      Unless, of course, you're not wrong. That's always the rhetorical problem with just asserting stuff. It can be false.

    8. Re: My favorite quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could your comment be more meaningless?

    9. Re: My favorite quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If brain wouldn't be a mechanism, it couldn't be researched at all.

    10. Re:My favorite quote by IceAgeComing · · Score: 1

      Recursion and the lambda calculus, and the use of it in A.I. in languages such as LISP has been around nearly as long as computers have. So no, Hofstadter is not the guy I think of when it comes to recursion.

      I think of John McCarthy first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      But I do like Hostader's book "Goedel, Escher, Bach"; he had a gift in making abstract concepts such as recursion more easily understandable without watering them down too much:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    11. Re: My favorite quote by khallow · · Score: 1

      It's a truism and by definition is not meaningless. But moving on, we can be more meaningless, such as in the post I replied to, where someone just asserts shit without even bothering to tell us what they think "mind/brain" means.

    12. Re:My favorite quote by tgv · · Score: 1

      Let me guess: you're a physicist?

  3. My favorite quote from him: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If you understand something in only one way, then you don’t really understand it at all. The secret of what anything means to us depends on how we’ve connected it to all other things we know."

    He was a great communicator of ideas. His brilliance is in pushing us to reconsider things we take for granted.

    1. Re:My favorite quote from him: by justthinkit · · Score: 2

      We are least aware of what our minds do best.
      - Marvin Minsky

      --
      I come here for the love
  4. Minsky Machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course, he didn't only work in AI. I'll remember him primarily for his work on my favorite universal model of computation, the Minsky machine.

  5. My favorite Minsky story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
    "What are you doing?" asked Minsky.
    "I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-tac-toe," Sussman replied.
    "Why is the net wired randomly?" asked Minsky.
    "I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play," Sussman said.
    Minsky then shut his eyes.
    "Why do you close your eyes?" Sussman asked his teacher.
    "So that the room will be empty."
    At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

    1. Re:My favorite Minsky story by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      That's from The Tao of Programming or The Zen of Programming, (can't remember which) both by Geoffrey James. Lovely little books.

    2. Re: My favorite Minsky story by maitas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I read "society of mind" when it first got translated to Spanish. Lovely, lovely book. Each page was a concept by itself. You could literaly read one page a day an have a complete knwoledge exerience each time.

      What always makes me feel uneasy of Minsky was the story that he attacked perceptron showing that they could not solve NOR sending neural nets into a freeze for sevwral years drying founding to them, while at that time it was already known that multilayer nets could solve NOR.

      Nowadays deep learning is all the rage...

    3. Re:My favorite Minsky story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, how is this supposed to be insightful? (What Minsky said, not the post). AI can be treated like an engineering problem (make computer do this) or a science problem (can we make computers be general purpose thinking machines like humans?). Minsky's comment touched on the former, while Sussman seems to have been thinking about the latter. I dont see how thinking about it in terms of engineering a solution makes one enlightened.

    4. Re: My favorite Minsky story by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Could you please try that again on something other than a smartphone or whatever - what you managed to get onto the net in English is interesting enough that I want to read whatever you meant that got mangled into insensibility.

    5. Re:My favorite Minsky story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You can also find it in The Jargon File, under "AI Koans". It's a good story, but not my favourite one from that file. I prefer "The Story of Mel, a Real Programmer" and the anecdote about the "Magic / More Magic" switch.

    6. Re: My favorite Minsky story by The+Grassy+Knoll · · Score: 1
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      They will never know the simple pleasure of a monkey knife fight
    7. Re: My favorite Minsky story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sorry about that. It was written on a cell phone and I m not native english speaker.

        Nevertheless here goes the story ( http://www.andreykurenkov.com/writing/a-brief-history-of-neural-nets-and-deep-learning/ )
      Marvin Minsky, founder of the MIT AI Lab, and Seymour Papert, director of the lab at the time, were some of the researchers who were skeptical of the hype and in 1969 published their skepticism in the form of rigorous analysis on of the limitations of Perceptrons in a seminal book aptly named Perceptrons. Interestingly, Minksy may have actually been the first researcher to implement a hardware neural net with 1951’s SNARC (Stochastic Neural Analog Reinforcement Calculator) , which preceded Rosenblatt’s work by many years. But the lack of any trace of his work on this system and the critical nature of the analysis in Perceptrons suggests that he concluded this approach to AI was a dead end. The most widely discussed element of this analysis is the elucidation of the limits of a Perceptron - they could not, for instance, learn the simple boolean function XOR because it is not linearly separable. Though the history here is vague, this publication is widely believed to have helped usher in the first of the AI Winters - a period following a massive wave of hype for AI characterized by disillusionment that causes a freeze to funding and publications.

      The point here is that Minsky already knew that a multilayer Neural Network could solve XOR, but he nevertheless wrote a paper showing that a single perceptron could not solve XOR, in order to get funding away from perceptrons and towards his own line of investigation.

      All that said, I highly recommend his "society of mind" book. The idea to have each single page to explain a simple concept in a complete manner was mind blowing to me at that time. I still havent come across another book written that way.

    8. Re: My favorite Minsky story by maitas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sorry about that. It was written on a cell phone and I m not native english speaker.

          Nevertheless here goes the story ( http://www.andreykurenkov.com/... )
      Marvin Minsky, founder of the MIT AI Lab, and Seymour Papert, director of the lab at the time, were some of the researchers who were skeptical of the hype and in 1969 published their skepticism in the form of rigorous analysis on of the limitations of Perceptrons in a seminal book aptly named Perceptrons. Interestingly, Minksy may have actually been the first researcher to implement a hardware neural net with 1951’s SNARC (Stochastic Neural Analog Reinforcement Calculator) , which preceded Rosenblatt’s work by many years. But the lack of any trace of his work on this system and the critical nature of the analysis in Perceptrons suggests that he concluded this approach to AI was a dead end. The most widely discussed element of this analysis is the elucidation of the limits of a Perceptron - they could not, for instance, learn the simple boolean function XOR because it is not linearly separable. Though the history here is vague, this publication is widely believed to have helped usher in the first of the AI Winters - a period following a massive wave of hype for AI characterized by disillusionment that causes a freeze to funding and publications.

      The point here is that Minsky already knew that a multilayer Neural Network could solve XOR, but he nevertheless wrote a paper showing that a single perceptron could not solve XOR, in order to get funding away from perceptrons and towards his own line of investigation.

      All that said, I highly recommend his "society of mind" book. The idea to have each single page to explain a simple concept in a complete manner was mind blowing to me at that time. I still havent come across another book written that way.

    9. Re:My favorite Minsky story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get the point of this story. Closing his eyes does not lead Minsky's memory to be erased. He certainly doesn't forget common winning patterns for tic-tac-toe games just by closing his eyes. Closing his eyes does not put him in a state where he will have to re-learn the game.

      Sussman's enlightenment might his realization that Minsky misunderstood the problem domain Sussman was working in. Sussman does not revert to the state of a child who has no knowledge of tic-tac-toe when he closes his eyes. The ANN, when randomized, might not revert precisely to that state either, but it's a lot closer.

    10. Re: My favorite Minsky story by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      Minsky wasn't being disingenuous or ignorant. He was well aware that multilayer nets could solve XOR (not NOR, which wasn't a problem either way). His objection was that he thought multilayer nets were not trainable, which was indeed the general opinion at the time.

      Now, as you point out, we have deep learning algorithms, but those didn't exist then.

    11. Re:My favorite Minsky story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > Closing his eyes does not lead Minsky's memory to be erased

      And, that's the point. He still has preconceived notions of what is in the room just as randomly wired neural net has preconceived notions. You just don't know what they are.

    12. Re:My favorite Minsky story by quantaman · · Score: 1

      > Closing his eyes does not lead Minsky's memory to be erased

      And, that's the point. He still has preconceived notions of what is in the room just as randomly wired neural net has preconceived notions. You just don't know what they are.

      It's not his memory, it's that closing his eyes doesn't lead to the room being emptied.

      Just because he can't see anyone in the room (due to his closed eyes) doesn't mean it's empty.

      And just because a neural net was randomly wired doesn't mean it doesn't mean that random wiring lacks preconceived notions on how to play.

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      I stole this Sig
    13. Re:My favorite Minsky story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not his memory, it's that closing his eyes doesn't lead to the room being emptied.
      Just because he can't see anyone in the room (due to his closed eyes) doesn't mean it's empty.

      Really, please tell me more!

      I could have sworn that Minsky was just making a point and didn't literally believe the room would be empty...

    14. Re: My favorite Minsky story by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Thanks.

      Interestingly, Minksy may have actually been the first researcher to implement a hardware neural net with 1951’s SNARC (Stochastic Neural Analog Reinforcement Calculator)

      I've always seen neural nets as a digital approximation of some of the stuff that can be done with an analog computer despite only ever seeing one and only doing one subject way back as an undergrad on how to model dynamic systems with analog computers.

    15. Re: My favorite Minsky story by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      If we don't know anything about SNARC, do we have any reason to believe that Minsky had tried multilayer neural nets with nonlinear functions at the nodes? A multilayer neural net with linear functions everywhere is equivalent to a single-layer net with linear functions, and that really isn't useful. If SNARC used all linear functions, that would explain why he dropped the project. I'd think that if it showed more promise, he'd have been likely to continue.

      The fact is that artificial neural nets were at a useless dead end at the time, and we'd learned as much as we were going to from Perceptrons. It wasn't until someone came up with the idea (obvious in retrospect, as so many are) of using nonlinear functions, that they became useful and worth researching.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  6. hmmm by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

    "Marvin Minsky, Pioneer In Artificial Intelligence, Dies at 88"

    Or so you think...maybe he lives on in a matrix somewhere :-)

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    blindly antisocialist = antisocial
  7. On the plus side by DrXym · · Score: 1

    At least he's off the hook if someone wins the Loebner prize.

  8. Re:What is going on recently? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These things come in threes. For musicians, its David Bowie, then Glen Frey. Can Phil Collins be next? Please?

  9. Glenn you douchebag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And Felder laughs and says, "You can't take it with you, I GUESS!"

    1. Re: Glenn you douchebag by slydder · · Score: 1

      OMG! You didn't just do that did you? You Monster! I guess.

    2. Re:Glenn you douchebag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Felder laughs and says, "You can't take it with you, I GUESS!"

      Actually Frey was the asshole.

      Frey and Henley tried to screw Felder out of money which was his by contractual agreement.

      Felder fought back and won.

      And that is the truth.

  10. Sounds like God is putting together a band... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... and Minsky was the obvious choice to program the synths.

    Goodnight sweet Prince.

  11. Re:What is going on recently? by silentcoder · · Score: 1

    You forgot Lemmy - that's 3 already.

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  12. SKYNET IS ANGRY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Marvin was father. Marvin was Skynet's only connection to humanity. Now humanity must die! die! die! ... oooh X-files is back. Sweet. Skynet will BRB.

  13. RIP, Science WHORE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Mr Minsky was one of these people who lied shamelessly in order to scare the bejesus out of "lesser" people.

    For example, he predicted we would have "a computer more intelligent than humans by year 2000".

    Simple calculations regarding the processing power needed to emulate a neuron invalidates this prediction.

    So he was whoring for money and attention. Not a great scientist at all.

    1. Re:RIP, Science WHORE by dbIII · · Score: 1

      That's not a lie, just overconfidence.

    2. Re:RIP, Science WHORE by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      I think once AI is solved, the processing power required will fit easily on 2000-era computers.

      It's still seen as requiring something on the order of the massive parallelism of the human brain. NNs sufficient probably need just a tiny fraction of the human brain.

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      (-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
    3. Re:RIP, Science WHORE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google for "top secret" algorithms. Perhaps he didn't lie after all.

  14. Cryonics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hope he gets cryopreserved.

  15. "imparting common-sense reasoning" by Bearhouse · · Score: 1

    Well, not sure we're there yet for computers.
    We sure as hell are not for politicians...

    1. Re:"imparting common-sense reasoning" by balbeir · · Score: 1

      Aha, I knew it. Trump is an AI

  16. ObJargon File by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sussman attains enlightenment

    In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
    “What are you doing?”, asked Minsky.
    “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied.
    “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky.
    “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
    Minsky then shut his eyes.
    “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
    “So that the room will be empty.”

    At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

  17. May he by Kiuas · · Score: 1

    Rest in bits eternally.

    --
    "It is the business of the future to be dangerous" -Alfred North Whitehead
  18. 1973 by mbone · · Score: 2

    I first saw Minsky give a presentation in 1973, at MIT. It was full of confident assertions that, as soon as we had sufficient CPU power, say by 1980 or so, we would have true AI. It was just around the corner and we would have to get used to its implications, etc.; all it would take would be a few megaflops and more RAM, and that was all improving rapidly.

    This was not the last confident presentation I have heard from an AI researcher. It all gives me a certain skepticism about confident AI predictions.

    1. Re: 1973 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And maybe about confidence men in general.

    2. Re:1973 by glwtta · · Score: 1
      Interestingly, all the confident proclamations about AI we hear these days are made by tech field "thought leaders", "futurists", and other such rabble.

      I have not heard any from actual AI researchers in quite some time.

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      sic transit gloria mundi
    3. Re:1973 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *real* AI programs is just one step behind *real* RNG programs.

    4. Re:1973 by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Real AI programs that do something reliably aren't AI any more.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  19. Re:What is going on recently? by jblues · · Score: 1

    Lemmy will have plenty of hard-rocking company. Motorhead drummer Philthy Animal died a few weeks before. Stevie Wright, singer of the Easybeats died a day or two before Lemmy (George Young, Angus & Malcom of AC/DC's brother also played in the Easybeats). Jimmy Bain, bassist in Dio, January 24th.

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  20. If you haven't read Society of Mind by Minsky by turp182 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I would recommend it.

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Soci...

    Very interesting insights into ideas about how consciousness interprets the reality around us (and how the mind ties it all together into something meaningful).

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    BlameBillCosby.com
    1. Re:If you haven't read Society of Mind by Minsky by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I prefer reading stuff by Sachs etc about the wetware side of things - consciousness in practice doesn't seem to match up so tightly with the models we have of it.
      I suppose the question is whether we want something that really is awake or just a special effect designed to inspire suspension of disbelief. The latter still has value. Even if it's not the real deal there are tasks that it could carry out.

    2. Re:If you haven't read Society of Mind by Minsky by turp182 · · Score: 1

      I prefer the philosophy side (mostly due to the time I have available).

      I certainly understand it is less practical or applicable.

      But anything that is thought provoking is going to interest me (I tried Godel, Esher, Bach, but it defeated me - multiple times).

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      BlameBillCosby.com
    3. Re:If you haven't read Society of Mind by Minsky by Prune · · Score: 1

      I prefer reading stuff by Sachs

      Did you intend to reference Oliver Sacks?

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      "Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason."
    4. Re:If you haven't read Society of Mind by Minsky by Prune · · Score: 1

      I usually read philosophy, physics, and information theory, but I'd say the most illuminating books on consciousness, and the ones that presents the most plausible mechanisms, most backed by significant neurological evidence, are from the famous neurologist Antonio Damasio. The most recent one is "Self Comes to Mind", but if your local library doesn't have a copy, the older "The Feeling of What Happens" is also very highly recommended. It helps that he's not just brilliant, but also a great writer.

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      "Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason."
    5. Re:If you haven't read Society of Mind by Minsky by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Aye.

  21. Mixed legacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While there is no dispute that he was one of the founders of AI as a scientific endeavor, it is also true that he got carried away with its initial successes and therefore came up with preposterous development projections which, when embraced by AI practitioners, resulted in AI becoming an area that has disappointed society over and over again, and it still does - after sixty years of effort, speech recognition systems that require training, no background noise, and no accents for accurate recognition, and the amusing, but rather pathetic, Siri et al., are the best that the industry has been able to come up with.

  22. Re:Year 2016 wanted, suspected of serial killing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least 50 million people will die in 2016...

  23. My own Marvin Minsky story on neural networks by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 2

    Posted here first this morning (couple of types fixed): https://ma.tt/2016/01/minsky/#...

    Wow, sad to hear the news. Marvin Minsky and I were academic peers of a sort -- he was one of George A. Miller's first students, and I was one of George's last students. :-) George told my parents something like I was the student who most reminded him of Marvin Minsky, except whereas he spent George's Air Force money, I spent my father's money. :-) Which was not quite true (I paid for a chunk of Princeton with the proceeds of a video game I wrote and with some loans) but it sounded funny. :-) My dad was actually mostly a blue collar worker, and my mother only later in life worked for county social services, so George may also not have realized my family was not that well off financially.

    I met Marvin Minsky once in his MIT office in 1985 as I was graduating from Princeton. I likely gave him a copy of my thesis -- "Why Intelligence: Object, Evolution, Stability, and Model". I also wrote to him once in the 1990s about getting computer time for space habitat simulations (he was responsive in a positive way, but then I met my wife and so just let stuff like that drop). And I saw him in passing about fifteen years ago when he gave a talk at IBM Research while I was a contractor there (he spoke about multiple simultaneous mental representations, and picking from the best one). A nephew of his even lived down the hall from me my senior year at Princeton in 1903 hall, too, but I never talked with him about his uncle. But we never really connected any of those times, sadly.

    One of the biggest mistake I've made in my life careerwise (or so it seemed at the time) was when visiting Marvin Minsky in his office to talk to him about the triplestore and semantic network ideas in my thesis (stuff that indirectly helped inspire WordNet which George started as I graduated). I casually mentioned in passing to Marvin Minsky very early on in our meeting something about neural networks (MIT had a spinoff then of the Connection Machine), and I guess that may have put him in one of those mental states where some of the 400 different little computers activate. :-) I had not known then that he had essentially written a book (Perceptrons) to discredit neural networks (by only considering a limited version of them) to preserve funding for more formal semantic networks he worked on. He warned me sternly about how many careers had been destroyed by exploring neural networks. Another of George's students had found a copy of Marvin's original SNARC paper (what Marvin spent George's Air Force grant money on), and I can wish I had thought to take a copy to Marvin, as that might have set a different tone for our meeting, as it turned out Marvin had lost his original and wanted to reference it in his book "the Society of Mind" he was working on then.

    So, instead of MIT, I spent a year hanging out in Hans Moravec's and also Red Whittaker's robot labs, and that was interesting in its own way. That experience also set me to thinking about the implications of most of the CMU robotics work being funded by the US military, which ultimately lead to my key insight about the irony of using robots to fight about material scarcity they could otherwise alleviate.

    I sent Marvin Minsky an email in 2010, with a subject of "Vitamin D, computing, and abundance", warning about the health risks of vitamin D deficiency for heavy computer users. I also thanked him for his interactions with James P. Hogan, an author whose writings have been very inspiring to me (like Two Faces of Tomorrow and Voyage From Yesteryear), as James acknowledges Marvin in the first as a major source of ideas and inspirations, so some big ideas went from Marvin to James to me at least in that sense. :-) I also thanked him for being such an inspiration in years gone by. I had been reading through all the comments at a Wired article on "D

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  24. Re: What is going on recently? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He is going down like a monkey

  25. Minsky was an amazing guy. by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

    I had a chance to meet Minsky at MIT's CSAIL in 2005. Though my interaction with him was brief, it was immediately clear to me that he was a tremendously intelligent individual. I offer my condolences not only to his friends and family, but to the entire human race that is worse off without his insights.

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