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Pakistan Orders ISPs To Block Over 400k Porn Websites (independent.co.uk)

Bruce66423 writes: The agency that regulates telecommunications in Pakistan has ordered ISPs to block a huge list of adult websites. "The action follows a recent order passed down by the Supreme Court in Pakistan requiring the telecom sector to 'take remedial steps to quantify the nefarious phenomenon of obscenity and pornography that has an imminent role to corrupt and vitiate the youth of Pakistan.' According to the Express Tribune, just days after the ruling by the Supreme Court, the telecom sector regulator, the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority, added it had provided internet service providers with a list of 429,343 domains to be blocked as it attempts to control the distribution of pornographic material.

105 comments

  1. Ob. Dilbert by swm · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re: Ob. Dilbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not that I am in favour of censorship, but has it been demonstrated, or even investigated, whether or not public access to porn is socially inert and not, in fact, harmful? Who are we to push our opinion on other societies that they should assume porn to be harmless. It's not like western youth are shining examples of civilised, logical, admirable humans.

    2. Re:Ob. Dilbert by penguinoid · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Simple, redirect the porn sites to a site containing instructions on how to make a suicide vest, plus the current number of virgins using one will earn you in the afterlife.

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    3. Re: Ob. Dilbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does this include this type of porn?
      https://www.google.com/trends/...

    4. Re: Ob. Dilbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. FOUR FUCKING KINDS OF MORONIC FAILURE IN THREE SENTENCES.

      Nobody's "pushing their opinion" on anybody. Grandparent is saying the effort has little actual chance of stopping any porn, which is obviously true. Grandparent is not going out there somehow and messing with Pakistan.

      But, if somebody were in fact messing with Pakistan, then you know what? Fuck Pakistan. Individuals have a natural right to view whatever the fuck they want. "Societies" and their opinions are entitled to zero consideration.

      Yes, the impact of porn has been "investigated", which you would know if you actually bothered to Google it before spewing about it. And in general it doesn't seem to have a lot of impact either way. You can find studies that say porn does just about anything, but there's not enough of a solid trend to say much. It may or may not reduce rape rates. It may or may not change various attitudes. The research is the same low quality dreck as most social science research, with the same small samples, lousy controls, overinterpretation, and biased questions. But if there were something really dramatic, you'd expect to have seen it by now. The smart money says it's just not there.

      And Western youth are pretty much like youth anywhere, at any time. Many of them are pretty damned good, thanks. Some of them do dumb stuff. Just like in Pakistan, or anywhere else.

    5. Re: Ob. Dilbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who are we to push our opinion on other societies that they should assume porn to be harmless.

      Haven't you heard? Porn is degrading, dangerous, totally wrong male patriarchial rape culture and an exploitation of women. You are literally an unperson for watching it. Like the rest of the internet, it needs to be censored so women and minorities can be protected from its triggering effects. Boobs anywhere, especiall in video games, need to be stamped right out!

      And after we ban porn, the next thing women really need is to wear super-empowering burkas!

  2. ICANN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lets hand over ICANN to the UN!!!! That will fix this!

    1. Re: ICANN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ???

  3. Preview Mode by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Then how are they gonna know what 72 v's are like?

    1. Re:Preview Mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hopefully all 72 virgins are lezbos!

    2. Re:Preview Mode by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pretty sure 0 out of those 400,000 sites contain images of actual virgins...

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    3. Re:Preview Mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Now now, one of them might have pictures of the tech support staff.

    4. Re:Preview Mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They don't need to know.

      Did you ever notice how masturbation calms a man down? I mean when I lack sex, I go completely crazy. Not only I'm willing to spend a few hundred dollars for a restaurant and a show simply to be with a girl, not only I'm willing to offer her stupid gifts, but it's to a point where I even think about marriage!

      But then, I masturbate and I get my mind back. I split the restaurant bill, I let the girl pays for her own ticket and, more importantly, I realize again marriage would be the biggest mistake of my life. (Hence my motto : One masturbation a day keeps marriage away.)

      Now I imagine if not only I could not masturbate, but women were also covered from heat to toe. I swear, I'll end up blowing up myself.

    5. Re:Preview Mode by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Virtual +5, Insightful.

    6. Re:Preview Mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... I could not masturbate, but women were also covered from heat to toe.

      Victorian Christianity demanded this too. They also outlawed prostitution. Women in western cultures had more freedom so it didn't change much, women just lied about sex a lot more, which created cognitive dissonance: All women had sex frequently (observed behaviour) but no woman liked fucking (medical/political mantra). This existed in adult sex education books (there weren't any for teenagers) in the 1980s, although several years passed before I recognized the double standard: Women wanted a big penis and multiple orgasms when they fucked but they didn't think about sex or need it. Every virgin learns that's a lie.

      One masturbation a day keeps marriage away.

      It also keeps fatherhood away. It's a motto so important I will spray-paint it on building walls.

    7. Re: Preview Mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's okay, Allah doesn't exist either. Peoples brains get burned out in the hot sun and believe in all sorts of stupid things.

    8. Re:Preview Mode by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Where did that comment about Victorians come in? Wow, that was out of left field. What's next, the Scythians? Bonobonese?

      Turns out, fatherhood is a horrible deal for men, too. That plus marriage are the main sources of men being divorce raped and thrown in debtors' prison. Did you know we, in 2016, actually have debtors' prison? Yes, we brought it back. Not even joking. Some progressive society we live in.

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    9. Re:Preview Mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... that was out of left field ...

      By saying "I'll end-up blowing up myself.", the GP is alluding to the consequence of sexual repression in a society, say like Muslim theocracies. I was merely noting the political correctness in Western societies almost 200 years ago, demanded similar repression, resulting in double standards both then and 30 years ago. Those double standards, doubtless, continue to this day in some cultural double-think that is difficult to catch.

    10. Re:Preview Mode by invictusvoyd · · Score: 1

      Now I imagine if not only I could not masturbate, but women were also covered from heat to toe. I swear, I'll end up blowing up myself.

      It is however quite difficult to blow yourself. The flexibility of the spine is stretched to its limits !!

    11. Re:Preview Mode by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      You masturbate in the restaurant? What the hell kind of pervert are you?? :D

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    12. Re:Preview Mode by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      No one ever let them in on the secret that the 72 virgins were other male suicide bombers...

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    13. Re:Preview Mode by aicrules · · Score: 1

      Unless one or more of them turns the user's web cam on, then I'd say many of those probably do....

    14. Re:Preview Mode by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      As Joycelyn "slow hand" Elders said about masturbation, "I think that it is part of human sexuality, and perhaps it should be taught."

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  4. 429,343 porn domains??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Holy Money Shot Batman!!!

  5. Goats by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's as if the voices of millions of goats suddenly bleated in terror, and were silenced.

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    1. Re:Goats by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That joke is really baaaaaaaaaaaad!

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    2. Re:Goats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as they don't also eat the goats, it's ok. Well at least for their neighbors under the kohmeni. That Muslim thought it was fine to fuck goats.

    3. Re:Goats by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      So, they only eat the ugly ones, then?

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  6. And I by DaMattster · · Score: 0

    call for a blocking of Pakistan. So there! Nyeah! ;-)

    1. Re:And I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But not before we get to know what is in that list. Clearly the pakistani officials made a good effort to compile a list of quality smut on the internet, and we all want to know where it is!

    2. Re:And I by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 0

      My bet is they compiled a list of fairly ordinary sites and made an effort to leave the really good/bizarre ones off. It's not as though Pakistan has the least corrupt government officials in the world...

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    3. Re:And I by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      My guess is those idiots were spending too much time masturbating over porn because 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and if you do not know what that stands for you do not belong on /. but do belong in some idiot Pakistani agency telling ISPs what to do. They kind of did point out the blocking is occurring at local ISP dns server level, well, ain't that an exercise in futility. Next step, oh my the difficulty, simply advertise your IP addresses (IPv4) and your IPv6 address range. There is a sneaky way of doing this with links, so the web domain names appears in the hyperlink but the actual IP address is used instead of the domain name.

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  7. I'm just wondering. .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is the list on line somewhere? Cause I want to. .. block those sites on my router. .. yeah that's it.

  8. Wankers! by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Um... how do I get ahold of that list for, you know, research purposes?

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    1. Re:Wankers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All kidding aside, I'd love to have the list to block at work. With BIND's new response policy zone, it's very easy to mass block hostnames:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_policy_zone
      http://jpmens.net/2011/04/26/how-to-configure-your-bind-resolvers-to-lie-using-response-policy-zones-rpz/

    2. Re: Wankers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      How very Republican of you.

    3. Re: Wankers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those republicans just don't believe in a free internet. They're always trying to censor. Always trying to censor.

    4. Re:Wankers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      google 'porn sites'...you'll easily find them...o, I mean I THINK you'd easily find them. :-)

    5. Re: Wankers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      How very 'damnit that douchebag VP got us another virus' again of you.

      Your working. Not there for porn. Do that on your own time.

    6. Re: Wankers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As are the democrats who want to destroy free speech rights under the guise of halting "hate speech".

    7. Re:Wankers! by GroeFaZ · · Score: 1

      Agreed, I have to check the list for false positives.

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    8. Re:Wankers! by aicrules · · Score: 1

      I recommend just using a white list if it is that important to you. Blocked site includes a link to submit a site for review to be whitelisted. You could optionally review a week or month worth of web traffic and see what sites are hit the most often and add those to the whitelist ahead of time. Regardless it ends up being pretty much self policing. People won't request access to a site that they know is going to be reviewed first if they know it is not allowed at work. Review of submissions can be however frequent you think is reasonable, with the user having the onus to escalate if the need to view a new site is urgent.

  9. Spelling block by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Oh just bluck off!

  10. See Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    KHAN!!!!

  11. Stop vitiating! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Boobies: Oh, the HORRORS!

    Beheadings: Meh, s'ok.

  12. VPN by agm · · Score: 1

    I doubt they block encrypted traffic. Working around this with a VPN or tunnel would be trivial.

    1. Re:VPN by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Don't people already do this to avoid being tracked?

    2. Re:VPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Spoken like someone who's never lived in a country with a government that's dangerous to it's own people.
      It's not worth being executed to access porn.

    3. Re:VPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless all encrypted traffic is MITMed. Many Western countries are effectively pushing for this, let alone some (relatively) backward religious dump.

    4. Re: VPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if you install the government or ISP CA.

    5. Re:VPN by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      In this case, all it takes is switching your DNS to point at 8.8.8.8 and the block disappears.

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  13. Bluck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ordered ISPs to bluck a huge list of adult websites

    What's a bluck? If it's a blocked activity then surely in this case it's a blank or a blap.

  14. How can we ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... get our boys to strap on bombs for 72 hypothetical virgins in heaven when they see what's available right here on earth?

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    1. Re:How can we ... by invictusvoyd · · Score: 1

      ..Just tell them that Pamela Anderson is not a virgin . they wont believe you at first but it will gradually sink in.

    2. Re:How can we ... by martinux · · Score: 1

      In the same way we should stop calling terrorists "terrorists" and start calling them morons, we need to stop calling people virgins and start calling them sexually inept.

      "In today's news, two morons blew themselves up for the promise of 72 sexually inept women."

      Take all of the glory out of it.

  15. rule #34 rules by turkeydance · · Score: 0

    yes, there is 400k porn.

  16. vitiate by xeno · · Score: 1

    Ooo. "vitiate" is my new word of the week. Sounds like good sport to me.... :)

    To borrow a phrase from Mr. Universe: "You can't stop the signal, Mal. Everything goes somewhere, and porn goes everywhere."

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  17. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a consequence, due to the massive disruption, we will have far better porn streaming everywhere else.

  18. Only 429,343? by meglon · · Score: 4, Funny

    So they're trying this on a small limited basis first, i see.

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    1. Re:Only 429,343? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They're leaving all the child molester sites up since their fucktard prophet was a child molester.

      Fuck Allah! Fuck Moohammad! Fuck Islam!!!

    2. Re: Only 429,343? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Here's the list, sir; sorry it took so long, but I thought it best to check every site myself."

      "Good work! I should probably check a few too, just to be sure these are the kinds of sites we're interested in. Blocking."

    3. Re:Only 429,343? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Islam does not work well with Freedom of choice. There's only one way, Conformity.
      It started as a political movement, and so it continues. Religion is more economical for control than sheer force.
      People are born without religion, 99.999% is adopted from their parents. There is no choice involved.
      The parents are always right.

    4. Re:Only 429,343? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Islam does not work well with Freedom of choice. There's only one way, Conformity.
      It started as a political movement, and so it continues. Religion is more economical for control than sheer force.
      People are born without religion, 99.999% is adopted from their parents. There is no choice involved.
      The parents are always right.

      The methodist doctrine didn't stick in my case. Are the ratios the same when you aren't under threat of death if you choose atheism? Or am I one of the 0.001%?

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    5. Re:Only 429,343? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know I was stoned to death by my parents when I left the Catholic Church.

    6. Re:Only 429,343? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the CAPS LOCK.....

    7. Re:Only 429,343? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      I know I was stoned to death by my parents when I left the Catholic Church.

      What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Oh wait..

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  19. Does Pakistan have a freedom of information act by Bruce66423 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So we can ASK for the list? Seriously - viewing it might reveal censorship of politics and religion, not just smut.

    1. Re:Does Pakistan have a freedom of information act by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given how quickly such sites ended up on Australia's filters before it even officially got started, I suspect that's the real reason behind any such list.

      Because you know, having parents do their job is just asking too much. :P

  20. They seem to have missed my new site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NothingButANiqab.com

    1. Re: They seem to have missed my new site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Goddamn it. You got my hopes up, though rule 34 of the internet says it will be registered soon.

  21. What's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What's the difference between Pakistani and Portuguese situation? I'll tell you: in Pakistan ISP's are forced to respect a Supreme Court ruling, here in Portugal ISP's are forced by bureaucrats to block dozens of "pirate" sites.

  22. Hydra by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    Wow, I've never seen anyone try to cut the heads off of a hydra that big before. It'll be amusing to see their reaction when the resulting mass of new heads looms above them.

    1. Re: Hydra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its ok, in Pakistan beheading is basically a national pastime.

  23. Good. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    This means more porn for me.

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    1. Re:Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and faster downloads for us who are not in Pakistan.

  24. If you think you can block porn from kids you are by mmiscool · · Score: 2

    You ever watch jurasic park and remeber the line "Nature will find a way". Well this is the same thing with teen agers and porn. They will find a way. It is laughable that they would try to prevent this kind of activity.

  25. www.bringbacktheporn.com.pk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oblig

  26. Where's the list? by mveloso · · Score: 1

    Where's the list? For research purposes only, of course!

  27. 400,000 sites!?! by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    I've got to get busy if I'm going to visit all of those before I die.

    So far I'm up to only 175,395 sites! And, damn, my arm is tired.

  28. I can't be the only one by argumentsockpuppet · · Score: 1

    Surely I'm not uncommon in recognizing this as a profit opportunity.

    I know people are up in arms over censorship, but really all this will do is strengthen the options for bypassing it. Freedom needs exercise too. Somebody will set up bypass tools and make a bundle of money and at the same time make it that much harder for the next round of censorship attempts.

  29. i agree... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    since the proliferation of non subscription or non p2p porn all i want to do is jerk off.

  30. Goat Porn by EEPROMS · · Score: 1

    I wonder if they will be blocking goat porn

    http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/...

  31. How did they find 400k porn sites? by jetkust · · Score: 1

    Who's working for them, Glenn Quagmire?

    1. Re:How did they find 400k porn sites? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's working for them, Glenn Quagmire?

      I was also wonder who makes these lists

  32. "First hand" experience from the Great FW of China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was in China in 2013 and bored so I tried hitting my "favorite" porn site xvideos. Nope. Redtube. Nope either. Turns out the new TLDs helped me out because after all that effort blocking sites, porn.xxx "saved the day" :P

  33. Missing the obvious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should just ban the kids from going online. Then again, maybe everyone should need to pass a computer programming test and get a license just to be allowed on the internet at all :) That was virtually the case in the early 90s, oh the glory days!

  34. Never underestimate... by John+Allsup · · Score: 3, Funny
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    1. Re:Never underestimate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah sure they have bandwidth, but their latency really sucks balls for even for Quake1.

    2. Re:Never underestimate... by hjf · · Score: 1

      google for Cuba's "El Paquete Semanal". There's a short documentary about it on youtube.

    3. Re:Never underestimate... by John+Allsup · · Score: 1

      The content they're trying to block isn't exactly interactive. Latency is no problem: you just need bandwidth.

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  35. Here is what I have to say to that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Screw that. I mean fuck that.

  36. Another reason to pirate during by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Great Pakistan Cyber Cock Block of 2016

  37. Major Uh-Oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did the "ruling" mean that 400k of the 1,000,000,000k goat fucking porn web sites are free to proceed or the 1,000,000,000k - 400k goat fucking porn web sites are free to proceed?

    From satellite it looks like Abbottabad is going up in flames yet again sad to say.

    Ha ha

  38. And the fap goes on! by Revek · · Score: 1

    Now they will just have to stare at those ankles.

    1. Re:And the fap goes on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now they will just have to stare at those ankles.

      They could also be staring at the goats. This could all be just a prep work for the Pakistani Psi Ops program.

  39. baaaaad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their goats are jealous.

  40. Talk about a refugee crisis... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now Pakistanis will be fleeing the country just to watch porn.

  41. Probably a good idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently people from predominantly Muslim countries are too backwards and primitive to be able to properly deal with sex (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3408033/Muslim-cleric-says-Cologne-sex-attacks-victims-fault-wore-PERFUME.html). Better not expose them to *actual* porn, until they've managed to keep their primal urges a bit more under control.

  42. Tickling the kipper by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

    the nefarious phenomenon of obscenity and pornography that has an imminent role to corrupt and vitiate the youth of Pakistan

    Yeah, because the spread of islam and radical forms of any religion don't already do this.

    If every guy polished their wax statue once a day, I think this world would be much more peaceful.

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  43. Re:Ob. Dilbert - An American Prayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, when our drone programs don't kill off enough of them, we can also pray that they kill themselves off. The last thing we need are less brown poor people, right? We know their lives are less important than ours.

  44. 400k sites? by sootman · · Score: 1

    Dang it. I *knew* my computer was running slow the other day. They must've hacked in to my computer and downloaded my bookmarks file.

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  45. Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What can you expect from a theocracy, despicable and hypocritical as such institutions always are?

  46. It's their country by Rastl · · Score: 1

    Their country, their rules. If people don't like it they can either oust the government and install a new one or leave.

    Is it censorship? Sure. But it's the responsibility of the people who are being censored to do something to resolve it.

    1. Re:It's their country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      D E S I G N A T E D
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  47. Only 400,000 Sites? by PPH · · Score: 1

    So, just the stuff with camels then.

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