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Desktop 3D Printers Shown To Emit Hazardous Gases and Particles (acs.org)

An anonymous reader writes: A new study in the journal Environmental Science & Technology by researchers at Illinois Institute of Technology and The University of Texas at Austin sheds more light on potentially harmful emissions from desktop FDM 3D printers. The researchers measured emissions of both ultrafine particles (UFPs) and volatile organic compounds (VOCs) from 5 commercially available polymer-extrusion 3D printers using up to 9 different filaments. [The researchers] found that the individual VOCs emitted in the largest quantities included caprolactam from nylon-based and imitation wood and brick filaments (ranging from ~2 to ~180 g/min), styrene from acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS) and high-impact polystyrene (HIPS) filaments (ranging from ~10 to ~110 g/min), and lactide from polylactic acid (PLA) filaments (ranging from ~4 to ~5 g/min). Styrene is classified as a "possible human carcinogen" by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC classification group 2B). While caprolactam is classified as "probably not carcinogenic to humans," the California Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment (OEHHA) maintains low acute, 8-hour, and chronic reference exposure levels (RELs) of only 50, 7, and 2.2 g per cubic meters, respectively, all of which would likely be exceeded with just one of the higher emitting printers operating in a small office.

96 comments

  1. Duh? by BoberFett · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ummmm, duh? You're melting plastics in order to reform them into another shape. It doesn't take a study to realize you shouldn't stick your face in and breathe deeply.

    1. Re:Duh? by vlad30 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Additionally which models did they test one with or without a case the diagrams suggest a case however most models with cases have fans and filters did they open the case and measure was the filter defective or removed to allow the particles to be measured they talk about the sealed room not a sealed printer in the setup

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    2. Re:Duh? by Donwulff · · Score: 1

      Oh, and mandatory SMBC link.
      Yes, I know it's supposed to be XKCD, but we're working on a budget here...

    3. Re:Duh? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 2

      The important thing is that someone is pointing this out. The 3D printers I've worked with (large commercial units) all have fully enclosed ventilated fume hoods. I've always wondered about cheapie open-air ones and the amount of VOCs they'd spread throughout the environment. At least people will now be a bit more aware of the issue.

    4. Re:Duh? by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 2

      I warned my state's Minister for Health about this issue last year and the reply was dismissive of my concerns about how 3D printers could impact on the health of children in schools. "No more dangerous than cooking fumes yada yada yada....." yeah right! And people wonder why I decided to provide my kids with a STEM based education from home.

    5. Re:Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Didn't you read the study of course the tested printers are listed and the exact setup is described

      The MakerBot with ABS filament was also tested twice once with the plastic enclosure from the manufacturer installed as received from the factory and once with the enclosure intentionally removed

      punctuation also intentionally removed for your convenience

    6. Re:Duh? by Rei · · Score: 1

      As I'd expect. The difference between professional units and home units isn't just print quality.

      Manufacturing requires controlled atmospheres. Heck, the thing that most people really want - 3d printed metal - simply can't be conducted in uncontrolled atmospheres at all. You at least have to use shielding gases, and it's very likely going to at least produce ozone, carbon monoxide, nitrous oxides, etc - never mind any potential outgasing/particulate from the metal (depends on what you're sintering - for example, stainless steel = risk of hexavalent chromium particulate). Would they just vent all this into the room for hours on end? The other option is to have your printer be built into a vacuum chamber (which eliminates the need to have gas tanks and also provides other advantages, such as sound suppression and a degree of dust suppression, although also disadvantages like more difficult heat management). But you still should have some outgassing protection on the output port of the vacuum pump.

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    7. Re:Duh? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Would they just vent all this into the room for hours on end?

      Once China figures out how to make a resistance sintering furnace they can sell on Alibaba for $1,995 then yes, quite probably. And none of this woosy zirconia stuff, they'll use thoria so you can read in the dark while you're working.

    8. Re:Duh? by thoromyr · · Score: 1

      the stratasys units i'm familiar with aren't vented and, even though no one seems to want to admit to the toxicity of the fumes, forced their relocation and time usage on to people who had no clout. In other words, even without evidence (like presented in this study) as to toxicity, the fumes are so noxious that the printers were moved.

      Interestingly, this study affirms a previous study that printing with PLA is little different than other common environmental factors (e.g., cooking) with the dangerous material being ABS.

    9. Re:Duh? by thoromyr · · Score: 2

      where I work, yes, they'd just vent it into the office space. That's what they do with the stratasys printers. Actually, there's no "venting" per se. They just sit in the office and emit.

      Sure, these units are sub $100,000 ABS printing units so maybe the really high end stuff is vented. But the comments here about "cheapo bad, expensive good" come off more as astroturfing for/by stratasys and 3d systems than reality.

    10. Re:Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For PLA, what they answered to you might apply. For ABS / nylon / etc, not so much.

    11. Re:Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like this one?

      They're not far off, there's only $200 to go.

    12. Re:Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am personally concerned about this report and similar earlier reports. I worked on the design of Stratasys FDM 3D printers for nearly a decade. We had a lab with a hundred or more machines running around the clock using any number of new or currently released polymers. These machines were run harder than any customer would ever run theirs. I always feared what the sticky off-white film on the inside of the 250mc/1200 glass front door was... I wonder what kind of elevated dosage I was exposed to working in that lab.

  2. Plastic is nothing but toxic garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And now we are suddenly surprised that manufacturing plastics from toxic chemicals actually released toxic chemicals into the air. Even when you do it in your own home. Who would've known.

    1. Re:Plastic is nothing but toxic garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And now we are suddenly surprised that manufacturing plastics from toxic chemicals actually released toxic chemicals into the air. Even when you do it in your own home. Who would've known.

      Yes this is one of those things that people should probably have already considered..

    2. Re:Plastic is nothing but toxic garbage by Donwulff · · Score: 1, Troll

      Some perspective would always be welcome, even on Slashdot. Cooking is still by far more dangerous and effects far, far more people and as such is a public health hazard. http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/indoor/cookingstudy.pdf I can only hope one day we will be living in an evidence-based society where cooking will be outlawed as a public menace. That said of course, there's absolutely nothing wrong with studying and reducing health hazards, and many printer manufacturers have long since responded with filtered air printing enclosures etc. But this particular one has been known for years, and postulated for far longer. One thing that has not yet happened but would be somewhat welcome is some sort of "chemical safety labeling" for printer filament; avoiding, of course, reducing choice or increasing the price, but as of currently there's no way at all to know what kind of chemicals each different filament batch contains. I see a lot of people jumping on demanding to know printer styles and brands, but I expect the filament source to have significantly more effect, and when the filament is used to print anything that comes to contact with skin or even food, this is many times more important.

    3. Re:Plastic is nothing but toxic garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Carry on shopping, and don't ask any questions.

    4. Re:Plastic is nothing but toxic garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cooking is still by far more dangerous and effects far, far more people

      "affects", not "effects" - http://theoatmeal.com/comics/m...

    5. Re:Plastic is nothing but toxic garbage by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      Totally, let's just everyone eat all our food raw. Or even while it's still alive. Because there is so much evidence that the pre-metabolizing via cooking is a horrible idea, nor is it one of the few differences between humans and everything else. I think we would all be far safer with a vast increase of harmful live bacteria on our food. Those pesky "studies" and "required classes" for food handling is all crap anyway; I agree that it's all a vast conspiracy about the myth of 148 degrees and in reality that amount of satanic cooking just forces evolution and makes harmful bacteria more powerful. THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

    6. Re:Plastic is nothing but toxic garbage by riverat1 · · Score: 1

      One thing that has not yet happened but would be somewhat welcome is some sort of "chemical safety labeling" for printer filament

      You mean like this MSDS for 3DXNano(TM) ESD ABS?

  3. Lots of toxic chemicals are usd every day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It would seem that the best approach is simply to 3D print things in a well-ventilated area. Lots of things are toxic if exposed to sufficient concentrations. In the absence (for now) of alternatives to the toxic chemicals, the best advice is ventilation and avoid the areas as much as possible where printing is being done.

    1. Re:Lots of toxic chemicals are usd every day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How many people ACTUALLY print in a well-ventilated area though? If many people are using these printers, and most of them are doing so indoors(many are inside bedrooms) and most of those aren't opening doors or windows to ventilate the room: I think the headline is of significant public interest. I have a printer running in our guest bedroom right now with all doors and windows shut. I walk in the room to check on the print and get a good smell of ABS fumes every hour or so.

    2. Re: Lots of toxic chemicals are usd every day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I do... When I read that ABS stinks, the first thing I did when setting up my i3 was to put it next to a window and put a fume hood over it with a fan blowing out the window.

    3. Re:Lots of toxic chemicals are usd every day by shadowrat · · Score: 1

      i might. i'm not sure. i get all of my stuff printed from places like shapeways.

    4. Re:Lots of toxic chemicals are usd every day by Rei · · Score: 0

      What a weird notion. Printing with online services that use professional machines rather than cheapo home filament extruders? It's almost like you actually care about quality or something ;)

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    5. Re:Lots of toxic chemicals are usd every day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry to break this to you but EVERYTHING is a toxin, people can and have overdosed on bananas, carrots (more specifically on the vitamins in them) and water. And poisons/toxins are sometimes used in life saving therapy, for example arsenic is used as a medical treatment for some cancers and is present in low levels in some medications. What matters is exposure, too much of anything is bad for you, and quite often getting too little/none of something is also bad for your health. There are definitely some compounds you don't want to spread around too much (lead, asbestos, uranium, etc) but many compounds (petroleum compounds, iron, etc) are perfectly natural and tolerated in the environment at least in reasonable quantities.

  4. Um, ventilate? by Sowelu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Doesn't every single printer and every single guide say to use in a well ventilated area for obvious reasons? You don't want to solder in a small office with no ventilation either.

    1. Re:Um, ventilate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that the toxic emissions from soldering are real, while this "study" is alarmist bullshit.

    2. Re:Um, ventilate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and when soldering was just becoming popular your great granddaddy said it was totally safe and said worries over load and lead fumes was just alarmist BS.

    3. Re:Um, ventilate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you're a fucking idiot.

    4. Re:Um, ventilate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are as eloquent as a developmentally stunted victim of childhood lead poisoning. I'd suggest you get that checked out, but something tells me it's way too late in your case.

  5. Coming Attractions by rmdingler · · Score: 2
    "Did you or a loved one ever suffer infirmities, disease, or even death after using a 3D printer while working in a shipyard?

    If so, call us now for a free consultation. You don't pay a dime unless we win the settlement."

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    1. Re:Coming Attractions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's my money and I want it now!

  6. Yep, they're almost useful by russotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ....must be time to ban them.

  7. Simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should print themselves a face mask.

  8. Here we go again ... by quenda · · Score: 2

    Whatever happened to all those claims of illness from photocopiers and laser printers?
    Was it ozone ... dust ... nanoparticles? Or those evil LASERs?

    1. Re:Here we go again ... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Dust - and the newer ones have it sealed in and don't get dust everywhere.

    2. Re:Here we go again ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, what if photocopiers and laser printers make you fat and increase your risk of cancer? Whatever happened to that?

  9. Everything is awesome! by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

    Dudes: 3D fart printers! Far out!

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    1. Re:Everything is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dudes: 3D fart printers! Far out!

      No, no, no. I said 3D DART printer, not...

      Ah, why... why are you so... old?

  10. That's MICROgrams, not grams... by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is getting ridiculous. A moment's thought would make it obvious that the emission rates quoted in the summary are wrong by orders of magnitude. Are there even home printers today that can extrude as much as 180 g/min of material, never mind vaporize or aerosolize that much?

    1. Re:That's MICROgrams, not grams... by edjs · · Score: 5, Informative

      All the measurements are in micrograms/min, if you look at the article.

      I'm guessing the submitter pasted-in the text from the article without realizing the symbols would be dropped by ./ - preview is your friend.

    2. Re:That's MICROgrams, not grams... by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      I woke up to go post me a quick story and then I thought somebody was barbecuing. I said oh lord Jesus it's a fire! Then I ran out. I didn't hit no preview or nothin'. I posted and ran for my life. And then the smoke got me. I got bronchitis. Ain't nobody got time for previewin'!

    3. Re:That's MICROgrams, not grams... by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      A comment system from this century (ie that can fundamentally accept cut'n'paste text without choking like a cat on a hairball) would be a better friend, I'm thinking.

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  11. Obvious is obvious by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Ensure ventilation and don't breathe in the fumes just like when working with solvents and a pile of other things you don't want inside your lungs.

  12. Goats... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, ever spend 8 hours in a small office with one of those? Talk about emissions!

  13. Re:No surprise here. by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Funny

    We can only hope that 3-D printers are someday as safe as chemistry sets.

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  14. Don't Worry by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Apparently one of the gases is "probably not carcinogenic" and the other is only classed as a "possible human carcinogen" so really the title should read "Desktop 3D Printers Shown to Emit Gases some of which might be hazardous". Not to mention that if the safe exposure level is 50g/m^3 that's almost 5% by weight of air so either someone messed up the units or one of the gases emitted are safer than carbon dioxide and nobody suggests that we ban candles.

    1. Re:Don't Worry by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Funny

      Besides, if you do happen to get cancer, you can just 3D print yourself a replacement organ.

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    2. Re:Don't Worry by LifesABeach · · Score: 0

      How many types of gases are emitted in a car factory?

    3. Re:Don't Worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so either someone messed up the units

      or Slashdot stripped the mus again.

    4. Re:Don't Worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As mentioned in comments made hours before yours and in TFA, measurements are in micrograms/ min. The microgram symbol was likely filtered out of the preview by Slashdot or software of the OP.

    5. Re:Don't Worry by jandersen · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Apparently one of the gases is "probably not carcinogenic" and the other is only classed as a "possible human carcinogen" so really the title should read "Desktop 3D Printers Shown to Emit Gases some of which might be hazardous". Not to mention that if the safe exposure level is 50g/m^3 that's almost 5% by weight of air so either someone messed up the units or one of the gases emitted are safer than carbon dioxide and nobody suggests that we ban candles.

      The good old "it won't happen to me"? Unfortunately, reality isn't as kind as that, as I'm sure you know. The purpose of this research is not to get 3D printing banned, or even to "discover" that it is hazardous; we already knew that there are hazards connected with working with hot, melted plastic. We just hadn't quantified the hazards well enough, yet. It makes sense to figure this out, so we can make informed decisions about how to mitigate the problem.

    6. Re:Don't Worry by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Because Slashdot doesn't support unicode.

      Really though how much of idiots do these system designers have to be to not have thought of this? For fun I've been working on a design for a material-flexible 3d printer (though I don't actually plan to put the money and time into building it any time soon) and it became clear very early on that atmospheric control would be critical if you want to have it in the house. There are only a very few raw materials that come to mind that I wouldn't have outgassing or dust concerns with.

      I can't imagine why they didn't think to at least put an activated carbon pad and/or paper air filter in the airflow path through the housing. It'd have almost no effect on the final cost.

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    7. Re:Don't Worry by Rei · · Score: 2

      Caprolactam is probably not carcinogenic, but it is most definitely an irritant and somewhat toxic, neither of which are good qualities to have for a gas in your home. Styrene, in addition to being a possible carcinogen, is toxic and mutagenic. In particular, it's toxic to the central nervous system. According to the EPA:

      Acute Effects:

              Acute exposure to styrene in humans results in respiratory effects, such as mucous membrane irritation, eye irritation, and gastrointestinal effects. (1,2)
              Tests involving acute exposure of rats and mice have shown styrene to have low to moderate toxicity by inhalation and oral exposure. (3)

      Chronic Effects (Noncancer):

              Chronic exposure to styrene in humans results in effects on the CNS, with symptoms such as headache, fatigue, weakness, depression, CNS dysfunction (reaction time, memory, visuomotor speed and accuracy, intellectual function), and hearing loss, peripheral neuropathy, minor effects on some kidney enzyme functions and on the blood. (1-3)
              Animal studies have reported effects on the CNS, liver, kidney, and eye and nasal irritation from inhalation exposure to styrene. (1)
              Liver, blood, kidney, and stomach effects have been observed in animals following chronic oral exposure. (5)

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      Reproductive/Developmental Effects:

              Human studies have not reported an increase in developmental effects in women who worked in the plastics industry, while an increased frequency of spontaneous abortions and a decreased frequency of births were reported in a study on the reproductive effects of styrene in humans. However, these studies are not conclusive, due to the lack of exposure data and confounding factors. (1,2)
              Animal studies have not reported developmental or reproductive effects from inhalation exposure to styrene. (1)
              Lung tumors have been observed in the offspring of orally exposed mice. (12)

      But hey, it's only probable that it'll also give you "leukemia, lymphoma, and other stem, blood, and bone marrow cancers", so let's totally play it down.

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    8. Re:Don't Worry by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Still, it does a poor job at quantifying the hazard because even if it gives concentration of the gases, there's no data on how harmful they are.

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    9. Re:Don't Worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So much this. Candles are immensely dangerous but we still allow them. Smoking too, both in terms of smoking some herbs and smoking food for consumption, char-grilling food, BBQing food, etc.

      Just stick a vacuum in there and vent it elsewhere if you are that paranoid, but a large number of people already consume worse things for their health.

      And the carcinogenic ones are just the start, next up is horrific amounts of (both natural and unnatural) fats, "diet" foods which provably make you gain weight (more so when you consume fatty foods since your body is in panic-mode), stupid amounts of sugar, consumption of fructose (even in natural amounts it is bad, we were not big eaters of many fruits. Your body DEALS with it and produces it in small areas where it is needed using other sugars, stop eating it already god damn it) and so many more.

    10. Re:Don't Worry by dywolf · · Score: 1

      a lot.
      and its covered by OSHA regulations regarding exposure limits, required PPE, etc, as well as protection from the union should a company try to skirt any of those.
      all gained from hard experience.

      now, what was the point of your straw man?

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    11. Re:Don't Worry by dywolf · · Score: 2

      well, that part usually comes after someone says "hey there might be a problem here", not before.

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    12. Re:Don't Worry by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Point? Well, for the unwashed, it's impressive that 3D Printing is being compared to mature industries. Given that 3D printing is today what micro computers were in 1978. And as production problems are discovered, and resolved; much like other mature industries, this issue will be resolved. Besides, who wants a stinking machine in their home? Which completes with mature industries.

      Consider a future of 3D printing where there will be a Desktop version in ones SOHO office. A Counter-Top version in the kitchen. and a Garage Size version. All IOT connected, and all OSHA compliant.

    13. Re:Don't Worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many car factories do you have on your desk two feet away from your nose?

    14. Re: Don't Worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4. There are 4 types of gas emitted at car factories.

    15. Re:Don't Worry by piojo · · Score: 1

      Your statements about dietary fat and "panic-mode" indicate that you don't have your facts in order (since these are topics I've researched). Consequently, your whole post is suspect.

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  15. First step... by Alypius · · Score: 2

    ...for the inevitable lawsuits by California bottom-feeders under Prop 65.

  16. brought to you by 3D Systems and Stratasys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because who hasn't had an operator of one of those companies machines see your FFF machine and say, 'wow, that's just as good as the $100,000 X machine I run for Y'?

  17. onclickads.net by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ads stink more than fatty driving their stinky horsy carz

  18. I would like to know whats different with the olde by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    whats different with the older study? the new nylon, wood filaments?

    the old study that was at some media quoted as OMG IT KILLS YA actually when covered correctly was titled about "3d printer as hazardous as cooking".

    and well if you cook your peek/teflon parts in the extruder then thats pretty hazardous..

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  19. Re:No surprise here. by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    You're usually okay if you stay upwind, right?

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  20. cheap activated carbon filter? anyone KNOW? by raymorris · · Score: 1

    It seems like a cheap little activated carbon mesh filter in front of a small fan would take care of most of the particulates. Does anyone know of something like that, or something else cheap and easy, would significantly reduce the VOCs?

    This being Slashdot, I'm sure some readers have a strong opinion and no clue, but I wonder if someone here actually knows about filtering o absorbing VOCs.

    1. Re:cheap activated carbon filter? anyone KNOW? by Gilgaron · · Score: 2

      Carbon is what you use in a respirator cartridge. For stuff like organic vapors, a hobbyist is better off wearing a respirator than trying to filter since the former is cheaper and easier to get right. The same sort of thing you'd wear to spray some lacquer in your garage would do well enough, I'd think.

  21. Don't see a problem! by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    Just print out a Know Your Chemical Hazards sign and keep right on printing!

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  22. Mom walks in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is that smell?

    Uhhh, it's the printer?

    Well, turn that thing off, It smells like a sewer! The whole basement reeks.

    Sure Mom... (eats more Cheetos)

  23. Good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All you shit nerds in some years are going to be even more gaunt and emaciated, bald frommchemiotherapy and dying, dying, dying, dead.

  24. When you panic and regulate based on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    what you can DETECT rather than what's actually significantly harmful, and without any tether to the reality of the relative risks, you will regulate everything and panic over everything eventually as technology gives you an ever-increasing ability to detect. This is one of the big problems with the EPA. When President Nixon created that agency, it merrily started regulating based on detection. A huge know-nothing portion of the population has now been raised in this anti-science omni-political activist environment falls for any shrieking by any group that points anything it chooses to, never knowing the truth about why a particular person or group decided to start whipping-up panic over a particular thing.

    Example of this modern madness: Mankind has used mercury thermometers for centuries; they've saved more lives and advanced human understanding of the world more than any person could possibly quantify. Several years ago at a public school in Southern California, a student in a science class accidentally broke one in the lab - and the school had an evacuation and a HazMat team was called-in wearing full protection suits to clean-up the "toxic spill". There were weeping mothers on the evening news worried about the permanent harm their children might have suffered...

    Odds that any person will be permanently harmed or killed by fumes from a 3D printer? Zero

    Odds that a user of a 3D printer will be permanently harmed or killed by drugs, or alcohol, or base jumping, or a vehicular accident?

    I leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out what to worry about, and whether to panic over the next obnoxious moron trying to generate publicity and scare you into demanding the government control even more of your life.

  25. But my 3d printer is by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    But my 3d printer is a volkswagen

  26. Emitting hazardous gases and particles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Emitting hazardous gases and particles? Sounds like my friend Steve.

  27. Re:No surprise here. by SharpFang · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Mostly"?

    My uncle died when working with a chemistry set and standing upwind. He was just reducing CuO with Mg, standing upwind, when a drunk truck driver drove an 18-wheeler into his house killing him instantly.

    Now if he only stood downwind, these 3 meters would have saved his life.

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  28. Really? Melting plastic is bad for you? by sabbede · · Score: 1

    Wow... Oh, wait a sec. Didn't we already know that melting/burning plastic releases toxic fumes? Did people think that wouldn't be the case if a computer was involved?

  29. Morans? by sabbede · · Score: 1

    As in Sci-Fi author Daniel Keys Moran and his sister? That's hardly an insult, "The Long Run" is one of my favorite books!

  30. Re:No surprise here. by clickclickdrone · · Score: 1

    if you pay for an AirBnB with Bitcoins you will probably die.

    And rightly so. Having a beard and checked shirt will merely hasten the death by hipsterism in additional to the risk of a crazed AirBnB host.

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  31. Offgassing by steelframe · · Score: 1

    I have a small office with 3 Maketbot 2s and 2 Makerdot 5s running PLA. Occasionally the smell is enough to make me leave the room, but I've found that a change in diet will clear that right up.

    1. Re:Offgassing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a small office with 3 Maketbot 2s and 2 Makerdot 5s running PLA. Occasionally the smell is enough to make me leave the room, but I've found that a change in diet will clear that right up.

      Strangely some people like the smell of PLA.. I don't, I think it is disgusting, sickly sweet nastiness.

      I guess I can understand though, I still enjoy the smell of my dry erase board markers from time to time.

  32. 3 year old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  33. Causes Cancer in California by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since apparently everything suddenly causes cancer in that state the simple solution is to just stay out of California.

  34. I think it was interesting that the bed by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    temperature had a bigger effect on particle emission than the extruder temperature.

    http://pubs.acs.org/appl/liter...

    This implies that a lot of particle emissions are coming from the bed/print interface. What would cause that?

    I manage 6 of these machines all tucked into a not particularly well ventilated corner of a room at the makerspace. I'll be taking this seriously.

  35. Re:No surprise here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tagged as "WTF?!".

  36. Possible, not probable by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    But hey, it's only probable that it'll also give you "leukemia, lymphoma, and other stem, blood, and bone marrow cancers", so let's totally play it down.

    Actually it is only possible, not probable, and as such from a carcinogenic point of view is technically less dangerous than bacon which the WHO classes as "probably carcinogenic". As far as the summary is concerned it is more a case of "let's just mention this slight possibility of cancer and not mention any other of the apparently proven and very serious effects of the gas". If this summary had been written about the dangers of guns it would have probably only have discussed the possibility of lead poisoning.

  37. Lactide? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lactide: Solubility in water[1]: Hydrolyses to lactic acid[2]

    [1] which I contain plentyful quantities
    [2] which I also already contain

    So nothing special about PLA. Smell of overheating corn starch mostly.

  38. Re:No surprise here. by Nemesisghost · · Score: 1

    Dude that's probably the best analogy to some of the most stupid arguments against science ever. I wish I had mod points to upvote you.

  39. This is why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of my 3d printers are in a air-tight case with negative gas pressure and an exhaust fan going out a modified dryer outlet in my basement. Problem effectively solved. My problem was (other than suspecting that there were volatiles, and hating the dust generated by my CNC machine all the time.) I have a very sensitive nose and for some reason those smells stay with me and annoy the crap out of me (especially PLA) and make me sneeze if I am around them too long. That I could not deal with so I built a case and exhaust system.

  40. Cyanide & Happiness worthy? by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    [looks over shoulder of co-worker] "Whatcha treedee printin'?"

    [responds with a look of gritty determination:] "CANCER"

  41. Ethernet Cables by marciot · · Score: 1

    I once came across a CAT5E cable with a warning that it contained lead and that I should wash my hands after handling it.

    I didn't.