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Anti-Malware Maker Files Lawsuit Over Bad Review (csoonline.com)

Posted by timothy on from the hearts-and-minds dept.

itwbennett writes: In a lawsuit filed January 8, 2016, Enigma Software, maker of anti-malware software SpyHunter, accuses self-help portal Bleeping Computer of making 'false, disparaging, and defamatory statements.' At issue: a bad review posted by a user in September, 2014. The lawsuit also accuses Bleeping Computer of profiting from driving traffic to competitor Malwarebytes via affiliate links: 'Bleeping has a direct financial interest in driving traffic and sales to Malwarebytes and driving traffic and sales away from ESG.' Perhaps not helping matters, one of the first donations to a fund set up by Bleeping Computer to help with legal costs came from Malwarebytes.

163 comments

  1. Streisand effect? by JosKarith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I get the feeling Enigma are gonna regret this - looking at the article they're suspected of several "sharp" practices already. Publicity is unlikely to be their friend.

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    1. Re:Streisand effect? by arbiter1 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      if "bleeping computers" does give a bad review to 1 maleware software and one they say is good is paying them $ for the traffic. They do have an argument in this that site in question is acting biased in their review. As you said Publicity of people looking for unbiased reviews of software doesn't look good for them if that is the case of them getting paid for referring people to 1 over software over another. In business of a reviewer, your reputation of being unbiased is everything.

    2. Re:Streisand effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are you one of Sarah Palin's speechwriters?

    3. Re:Streisand effect? by EzInKy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed, filing suit just publicizes the fact that their software was found lacking by reviewers. This company is toast and well deserves to be. The only logical proof they can provide against claims of their softwares ineffectiveness a demonstration of its effectiveness.

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    4. Re: Streisand effect? by jofas · · Score: 1

      I think you need to read both tfa and the comment to which you're responding again.

    5. Re:Streisand effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeeze.

      Go to a university(any really) and hire a couple of researchers to do an A Vs B review / objective comparison.
      If that is not super favorable then repeat at the time the review was made.

      If you go to school and fail a math test - it is a fair cop, not an I'll sue you affair.
      It comes down to close or chalk n' cheese. If the latter it is a vindictive and nuisance suit.

      Enigma's only real defense is showing that they are better - not just asserting their box packaging picture is miles better.
      If that was a student, I'd ensure fair retribution for being a unreasonable whinger or British as the case may be.

    6. Re:Streisand effect? by EzInKy · · Score: 2

      If they can show what you say, the will win the suit. The best defense against slander is the truth. Sounds like, according to you, they have a slam dunk case!! If that is the case I wish them the best and hope they recover the maximum damages possible.

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    7. Re:Streisand effect? by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      If they already know that the company is doomed they are not losing anything by the law suit and stand to gain. All they have to do is create another company and sell off to show a loss then rebrand the software and and bragg about how they improved it as the separate company.

    8. Re:Streisand effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are an idiot. Giving something a bad review is not actionable. The only hope Enigma has is that they can prove bleeping computer was purposefully lying for money, and that means they have to prove their software is better, prove bleeping computer purposefully lied and prove that they were getting paid.

      Thats a tall fucking order. It sounds more like this is an attempt to gag a reviewer because they did not like the results of the review. Enigma hope that bleeping computer will get scared and back down. I for one am going to donate some money to bleeping computers defense fund.

    9. Re:Streisand effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      review was posted by a user...

    10. Re:Streisand effect? by NotDrWho · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, I've never heard of "SpyHunter," but I'm pretty sure that this story is going to be one of the first things that pops up when anyone searches for it for now on. And no way would I ever, fucking ever, install software from a company suing over bad reviews. It just looks awful.

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    11. Re:Streisand effect? by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      He's not just the president, He's a member.

    12. Re:Streisand effect? by blang · · Score: 1

      Agreed.
      The "Your computer may be at risk", "Download free scanner", and click to buy marketing is ripe with fraud. Those are the kind of links you stumble across at illegal streaming sites or p0wned and derelict websites.
      Even if they (have no idea if they do) had clean hands and stellar reputation, they have chosen to market their product in a way that makes it indistinguishable from malware or hackerware. If they really were reputable, they should dress up like Russian mafia, and then go all litigatious if someone points out that they look like Russian mafia.

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    13. Re:Streisand effect? by omnichad · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Libel/defamation isn't rooted in bias. It's knowingly false information being spread intentionally. You can have all the paid people you want saying how great you are and telling of the things legitimately wrong with your competitors and never have a problem.

      They aren't in the business of being an unbiased reviewer. They're in the business of helping people get their infected computers cleaned up. And for that you need working tools.

    14. Re:Streisand effect? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Negative publicity often results in some places getting more sales. Especially because it helps boost SEO ratings.

    15. Re:Streisand effect? by ITRambo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Spyware Hunter is a poor, if not terrible, program. Malwarebytes is superior, being more effective. It's too bad that Enigma can't handle the truth, chooses to sue bleepingcomputer.com instead of improving their product. Such assholes.

    16. Re:Streisand effect? by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      He's not just the president, He's a member.

      I see what you did there. Kinda juvenile, but I still like it.

    17. Re:Streisand effect? by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      That's cute. I like it but..

      My original intent was something else. I forget that there is an international as well as a younger crowd here. The used to be these commercials and infomercials on TV in the US for the Hair club for men. It is a group that deals with going bald.

      Anyways, at the end of the commercial they showed the narrator who has a full and healthy head of hair who then introduces himself as the president of the club. He goes on to say he is not only the president but a member too.

      I guess it just isn't funny if I have to explain it so I'll go with your interpretation. Thanks. You mad me feel old but you also made me laugh.

    18. Re: Streisand effect? by matt_hs · · Score: 1

      Great. Now they'll sue Slashdot too. Thanks a lot.

    19. Re:Streisand effect? by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Are you one of Sarah Palin's speechwriters?

      I know... funny thing is Sarah still thinks she does great speeches. Everyone else is like - is she still talking? Get the bitch off the stage! Even Fallon did a shot with poor old Trump in the background. You can see he'd be like - YOU'RE FIRED (BITCH)! if he could.

  2. Can't have a opinion anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Its sad that you can't have a opinion anymore if it hurts someone's feelings. I see nothing wrong with Bleeping computer endorsing one anti virus over another.
    We all have opinions on which one is better. Malwarebytes is a free program anyway although I guess they have a paid version. You can always tell a desperate company when they start to take up legal actions.

    1. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody says you can't have an opinion. However you should bear the consequences of expressing it and in some cases it may involve fines and incarceration. It's up to you to decide if you think it's worth the price.

      You don't seem to understand what an opinion is. You might say something that is factually wrong, but that's entirely different matter. There's no such thing as a wrong opinion.

      If expressing an opinion can result in "fines and incarceration" then you are no longer free to express your opinion.

    2. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by halivar · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      We Europeans are fine with this. There are thoughts that society is frankly better off without. Orthodoxy and conformity is safety.

      You don't see this attitude as at all sinister in its implications? It's positively Orwellian.

    3. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by spork+invasion · · Score: 1

      I live in Europe and I'm aware that there such things as "right opinions" and "wrong opinions". Expressing the latter may have life-altering consequences and some of those are actually illegal. We Europeans are fine with this. There are thoughts that society is frankly better off without. Orthodoxy and conformity is safety.

      I really hope you're being sarcastic, but I can't be certain and therefore I am replying. There are certain types of speech that are banned because they are truly harmful. Violent threats, making false claims to incite panic, libel, and slander are illegal either through criminal or civil law. There are good reasons for such speech to not be legally protected.

      However, the only speech that needs to be protected is that which someone finds offensive. Speech that isn't offensive doesn't need protection because nobody will want to ban it. Calling into question societal norms, government actions, the activity of the wealthy and powerful, and the beliefs and practices of religions are all offensive to some people. While plenty of that speech is baseless or foolish, it deserves to be protected. The ability to restrict speech that someone finds offensive inevitably gets abused. Orthodoxy and conformity are the tools of dictatorships, not free societies.

      With respect to the article at hand, Enigma finds statements by Bleeping Computer offensive. In the US, in order for the speech to be libelous, it must include false information. Simply offering an opinion that Enigma's software sucks is not libelous. Providing truthful evidence to support that opinion isn't libelous, either. It's only libelous if false statements are made. And damages can only be awarded if libel occurred and the plaintiff actually suffered demonstrable harm as a result. Opinions are not illegal, even when someone finds them offensive. It's also notoriously difficult to be awarded damages by courts for slander and libel. I think it's very unlikely that Enigma is successful in their lawsuit. It's far more likely that they go the way of SCO, cease to exist, and very quickly so.

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    4. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by Holi · · Score: 1

      So in other words you can't have any freedom to express your opinion. That is exactly the opposite of freedom of expression.

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    5. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We Europeans are fine with this. There are thoughts that society is frankly better off without. Orthodoxy and conformity is safety.

      You don't see this attitude as at all sinister in its implications? It's positively Orwellian.

      It's also extremely cowardly. All those Europeans that stayed in Europe are / were the gutless whussies. Now propagated by genetics they are an easily lead bunch of cowardly sheep giving their continent away.

      The ones who left and went to America or Australia, or wherever, etcetera, took all the courage, drive and will with them. All that is left are the dregs. The USA pays for their defense to this day, and they hate us for it. Time to leave these pussies to what they deserve.

    6. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      It's amazing how many people either don't or refuse to see the slippery slope this leads to....

    7. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by ruir · · Score: 1

      Speak for yourself. I am an European and I am not fine with my speech liberties being curtailed in the name of mercantilism or "racism". You are an idiot.

    8. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by sumdumass · · Score: 2

      That is why this isn't a slander or libelous suit per se. They seem to be using the fair advertising and unfair competition laws. You can tell from the wording 'false, disparaging, and defamatory statements' and the accusation that bleeping computers is involved in marketing a competing product.

      In this there is a little more room to criticize truthful or truthful like statements. Papa John's was sued over their slogan fresher or better ingredients back in the late 90s because they showed a pizza hut pizza next to theirs. They lost even though better is an opinion. The case was eventually overturned based on pizza hut not showing damages not because of the opinions.

    9. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >There are thoughts that society is frankly better off without. Orthodoxy and conformity is safety.

      My Poe's detector is giving really weird readings.

    10. Re:Can't have a opinion anymore by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

      Its sad that you can't have a opinion any more if it hurts someone's feelings. I see nothing wrong with Bleeping computer endorsing one anti virus over another.

      I agree that dealing with any event that could hurt other's feeling situation seems to be out of hand. However, I don't see the cause of this situation as feeling hurt by others. I am seeing that the company is abusing the laws, and this kind of law suite is very popular right now.

      The reason this type of company suing small companies or individuals is a win-win situation for the company in a sense of short-sight solution. A law suit is not cheap, so small companies or individuals would likely to take the review down, or they would have to spend money on a legal that gives them nothing but pride.

      I hope the defendant win this case. Also, I hope that any judge seeing this type of law suite would immediately throw the case away real quick.

    11. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I think in the Papa John's case, they argued that "better" is an objective claim as opposed to "best" which is subjective. At least when you're giving an example of what they are better than (Pizza Hut).

      I decided to look it up. The ruling was overturned in an appeal. And that's why Papa Johns continues to use the slogan.

    12. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it was overturned but only because pizza hut couldn't show that the claim cost them business.

      Either way, it showcases how commercial speech can be treated differently when your competing with one another.

    13. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a part of an insignificant minority that can safely by marginalized and ignored. Why don't you join the rest of us? Why be the odd one out? Can't you see the risks? Think of your family.

    14. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      What's a "wrong opinion" here that can get you in trouble with the law? In the US, expressing an opinion may have life-altering consequences depending on what other people think of you. If you're in politics or the entertainment field, for example, your livelihood may depend on what other people think of you, and you may be out of a job if you offend too many people, but there's no legal enforcement.

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    15. Re: Can't have a opinion anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Saying Islamic State are my best friends or all black people are evil are just two ways to fall foul of the law in the UK.

  3. deweaponization advocate hobbyist whiners... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    long suit.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0DJ8hWgNes&spfreload=10 .. sing alongs...

  4. Lawyers are malware by Bob_Who · · Score: 0

    They just need to write code that will counter sue lawyers for being greedy little flaccid trolls.

  5. Informative post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I did a quick search and found this entry on the Bleeping Computer forum.

    If everything in that post is true, I fully understand why SpyHunter gets a bad review.

    1. Re:Informative post by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      Love the fact that it it starts with a request for financial support for it's legal defence

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    2. Re:Informative post by SargentDU · · Score: 2

      I also notice that Spyhunter has a history of lawsuits against other companies that did remove their product for you.

    3. Re:Informative post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      spyhunter has always been a shit scammy product... dating back to when it was new, and window xp was still in its infancy.

  6. hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now who does this remind me of?
    http://www.thorschrock.com/200...
    http://arstechnica.com/civis/v...
    http://arstechnica.com/civis/v...
    http://arstechnica.com/civis/v...

    No I'm not saying the name, but three letters capitalized

  7. Hey ESG by wbr1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    You cannot lawsuit your way out of a shitty product.

    I do not represent Bleeping, but I have used their forums and site many times. They are a reputable source for tools and procedures that actually work, as opposed to many supposed software solutions and 'help' sites that just serve to infect you further with their tripe.

    So, as far as I am concerned you can fuck right off with your shitty product and attitude. You have now insured that no matter how good your product -may- become (and I doubt it really will), I will never recommend it to any clients and will actively promote against it. Good job. Now sue me.

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    1. Re:Hey ESG by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      You cannot lawsuit your way out of a shitty product.

      Have you not being paying attention for the last bunch of years? Because that's exactly what happens.

      Tone of places have started suing for bad reviews ... they go all "wah wah" and out come the lawyers.

      Bad reviews on yelp cause many businesses to sue.

      What should happen is the courts say "OK, if you prove it was done with malicious intent, we will consider it, but otherwise STFU or we're going to impose stiff penalties".

      But don't think you can't lawsuit yourself out of a shitty product/bad service. I definitely happens, and the lawyers go all crazy over semantics the average person can't quite grasp.

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    2. Re:Hey ESG by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Back in the day on download.com, I would go to download well-known, legitimate antivirus stuff, and the reviews were always crammed with "this installs a virus itself".

      As these were often almost identical reviews across multiple products, I got the feeling they were by competitors, but of actual scamware, or by virus writers themselves.

      Legitimate reviews are already laced with the problem people are much more likely to write a review to bitch about something than praise it, leaving everything everywhere with shitty reviews. But antivurus reviews are in a class by themselves because of this additional problem.

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    3. Re:Hey ESG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      gstoddart the expert! gstoddart have you made anything worth reviewing? No? Thought not. Must be the NDA (lol, bullshit when that's the excuse liars like you use when they have nothing to their name) right? Not. You're a loser gstoddart. Don't attempt to think (a foreign concept for you no less) you make anyone think otherwise, ok? No more delusions of grandeur from you, please! We can't handle the smell of the utter bullshit that spews from your open hole!

  8. funny thing is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I downloaded Any Video Converter and wound up with a copy of SpyHunter. A program I did not want. Downloaded on my computer without my consent. What does SpyHunter (supposedly) do? It supposedly stops people from downloading unwanted applications onto your computer. They suck.

    1. Re:funny thing is... by tepples · · Score: 1

      What does SpyHunter (supposedly) do?

      Play the theme from Peter Gunn while you shoot enemy cars.

  9. Nothing in life has harmed me more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...than people giving me undeserved compliments, giving me a false sense of ability.

    I abhor manipulative or abusive rhetoric, and have found that it is as likely to appear positive as it is negative. I want to be challenged, to be pushed, and to be told where I'm lacking. Don't hide me from reality, good or bad.

    It's possible that you're full of shit, of course, but there's the risk when speech is free - your audience is responsible for critically judging your words, and you might be condemned as a lying buffoon. Or you might have a point, but not a very good one - if you're not willing to face a robust response, expect your position to be torn down in your absence, as if you'd never said it.

    So, call my software crap if you like. I do write software, and occasionally it's called crap. Hell, call me a kitten-drowning kiddie-fiddler if you really want. I've never been accused of this, but I'd much rather a society where an unsubstantiated accusation is taken with a pinch of salt, than one where hysteria means an accusation alone can cause harm.

    N.B. None of this post excuses harassment, which is repeatedly targeting an individual to distress them.

  10. Not an original name for Software by RackinFrackin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I haven't had Spy Hunter on a computer since my Commodore 64 days.

    1. Re:Not an original name for Software by chrish · · Score: 1

      There was an awesome port of this to Atari ST and Amiga in the early days; you used the new-to-most-people mouse to move around and accelerate/decelerate.

      So many hours went into that in the mid 80s...

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    2. Re:Not an original name for Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I haven't had Spy Hunter on a computer since my Commodore 64 days.

      Seems like now is the time for you to download this awesome software!

  11. Dear Enigma by MitchDev · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thanks to your anti-free speech actions, I will NEVER use your software and will recommend others avoid your products and services as well.

  12. Wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they are suing Bleeping Computer for something someone posted in their forums? Not something they said but some random persons opinion, an opinion protected by the 1st amendment.

  13. Not a "bad review" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Read the complaint. It's not about a "bad review by a user," but a repeated near-accusation that the product in question is suspect itself (not by using it and reviewing it, but by repeating things found elsewhere on the internet), by a BC moderator. Further, the moderator recommends people remove it and install another product instead, one that BC gets affiliate payments from.

    Not saying its actionable, but the summary is quite misleading. It's worse than a bad review, and it'swritten by someone appointed to a position of authority by BC.

    1. Re:Not a "bad review" by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      It may be libel if it harms Spyhunter, it's false, and the reviewer didn't care about the truth.

      The financial incentive makes it plausible that the reviewer may have written it without caring about truth or falsehood, and printing unsubstantiated accusations does suggest that.

      US libel laws are pretty demanding on a person claiming to be libeled, to avoid restricting free speech, but from your description this might well qualify.

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  14. Streisand Effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just putting it out there...

  15. WTF?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How is that a negative review? It's factual, and I don't perceive malice is the reviewer's writing.

    What, the reviewer can't write about his opinion? He's not providing paid consulting advice; any
    judge will tell you "you get what you paid for" when saying "I have a friend who is an attorney and
    he said...".

    While there are still unresolved allegations that SpyHunter transmits the Windows Product ID from users' PCs

    Yeah, that's a very serious criminal action by the company if it's true.

    CAP === 'remorse'

  16. Why is there still an "anti-malware" market? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Didn't Windows Defender kill off the "anti-malware" market? Does anyone really still run things like "Symantec" or "McAfee"?

    1. Re: Why is there still an "anti-malware" market? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      If you're a malware author, the first thing you do is run WD over and over until your product comes out clean.

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    2. Re:Why is there still an "anti-malware" market? by sremick · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Didn't Windows Defender kill off the "anti-malware" market?

      No, because Windows Defender sucks.

      Does anyone really still run things like "Symantec" or "McAfee"?

      Only naive new-computer buyers who get it pre-installed and roll with that because of the name-recognition. The rest of us run something that doesn't suck. Symantec/Norton and McAfee are bloated messes that bog down the computer and hardly catch anything. Defender is just a hidden useless product that also doesn't catch much of anything. There are plenty of worthwhile programs out there however that catch a lot and definitely do help to address this very real problem.

    3. Re:Why is there still an "anti-malware" market? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Didn't Windows Defender kill off the "anti-malware" market? Does anyone really still run things like "Symantec" or "McAfee"?

      Windows Defender is the most useless piece of shit software since Windows ME

    4. Re:Why is there still an "anti-malware" market? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you recommend something better than Windows Defender? Thanks! (too lazy to sign in)

    5. Re:Why is there still an "anti-malware" market? by thoromyr · · Score: 1

      I haven't had contact with Microsofts "anti-malware" for some time and apparently things have improved somewhat, but you could hardly do worse. Historically:

      Windows Defender will at times not block malware that it detects (submit locally undetected sample, MS response is "definition included for 6+ months"). Submitting unknown (to MS) malware has at times resulted in it being flagged good. Heck, if a vendor of malware notified MS their "product" was being detected it was automatically removed from their detection. Detection of malware often lagged week or months behind other AV. I used to check back periodically on some of my submissions and that were perpetually stuck in "pending evaluation". These are samples that were detected by 20+ other AV vendors (virustotal is your friend) at the time of the incident.

      What Microsoft did was buy a product (Giant, IIRC) and then let it languish.

      OTOH, even the big name AV vendors are not known for treating the customers well and in general there seems to be lack of quality performance from AV. And, if you're unlucky and are one of the ones to get hit by a sample during its first week the odds are not in your favor.

      Realistically, you are better off ensuring Java, Flash and Adobe Reader are not installed, using an Adblocker and disabling Javascript in your browser. And, on Windows, configuring policy to prevent execution from temp folders, etc.

      Of course, you will have broken a lot of the Internet. And both Chrome and Firefox rely on execution from temp folders (e.g., for updates).

  17. Malwarebytes FTW!!! by wkwilley2 · · Score: 2

    Spyhunter is terrible. Malwarebytes is the only Anti-malware program I use or recommend.

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    1. Re:Malwarebytes FTW!!! by truck_soccer · · Score: 2

      Eh MBAM has become pretty bloated lately, and it hasn't been detected as many threats as it used to. I haven't had it in my toolkit for a while. I use the Emsisoft Emergency Kit, JRT, ADWcleaner, Roguekiller and Hitman Pro most often. Combofix if a system really needs it, but I find that isn't the case as often as it used to be, and I don't believe they've got a version of combofix that runs on windows 8, 8.1 or 10.

    2. Re:Malwarebytes FTW!!! by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Popular anti-malware software will become less effective over time, since all the malware writers out there will test against it.

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  18. Addendum #3: Another AC calls my ware malware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & the post I reply to further disproves that libel of myself http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Nothing like making scumbags EAT THEIR WORDS (& I'm sure the little jerk who did that still lurks around this site too)... apk

  19. Addendum #4: AC recently calls me "fag" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I am NOT a homosexual http://slashdot.org/comments.p... libeling me further ontop of calling me IDENTITY THIEF (I am not), A PEDO/CHILDMOLESTER (I am not), AND A MALWARE MAKER (I am ANYTHING BUT that - I protect folks from malware for Pete's sake & THE POST I REPLIED TO WITH THESE ADDENDUMS HAS PROOF I HAD TO STRUGGLE THRU TO CLEAR MY NAME WITH & that really pisses me off - scumbags trying to SMEAR MY GOOD NAME)!

    APK

    P.S.=> Reviewing the BULLSHIT I've put up w/ on this site from morons is really starting to piss me off... apk

    1. Re:Addendum #4: AC recently calls me "fag" by omnichad · · Score: 0

      You just proved that you were pretending to be someone other than APK when replying to that comment - http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

      Can't you just be honest and say that it's you? Why do you need to pretend that other people support you?

  20. Angry children. by truck_soccer · · Score: 1

    I wonder if they were snubbed for ad space? They seem to be hung up on the fact that Bleeping Computer is Ad supported, and less so on the bad user review.

  21. Addendum #5: AC again calls my ware malware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject - the post I reply to disproves that libel easily again from yet another libeling little coward
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Yes folks - MAYBE it's time I did the same as Spyhunter did - reviewing this is really, Really, REALLY distressing me & no way I ought to go thru my good name being shit on by jealous losers trying to RUIN my good name... apk

  22. DOWNMODDING MY POST TO HIDE IT NOW? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & post I replied to being downmodded for facts I back up that libel me - trying to HIDE something there idiots?

    APK

    P.S.=> I'd wager it's the morons I am posting about who libeled myself... apk

    1. Re:DOWNMODDING MY POST TO HIDE IT NOW? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You get down-modded because you're a boring nutjob thread-spammer.
      That is all.

    2. Re:DOWNMODDING MY POST TO HIDE IT NOW? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like solid facts on topic to defend one's self vs. libel designed to ruin one's reputation in the eyes of others to me and against illogical off topic ad hominem attacks from you who obviously down moderated it to hide it since you're now posting by ac to not remove your down moderations.

  23. Addendum #1: Coren22 ate his words on it too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Coren22 had to eat his words quoted in it (what's in my last post I replied to w/ this addendum DISPROVES THIS CRAP from Coren22) http://slashdot.org/comments.p... easily!

    GOSH THAT WAS DOWNMODDED TO HIDE IT TOO http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... LAST TIME I POSTED IT - don't worry, I'll post it all until the downmodders run out of modpoints to abuse.

    (Coren22 is that YOU again up to your little tricks, prick?)

    APK

    P.S.=> For posterities' sake I'm going to find the rest & list them here consolidating them as well... apk

  24. Addendum #2: AC calls me child molester by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I AM NOT ONE -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/com...

    * I told DICE about this crap - nothing was removed - slashdot just LEFT IT THERE TOO?

    WTF!

    APK

    P.S.=> Perhaps I ought to do what spyhunter has... apk

  25. Winners win and Losers sue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about improving your product, huh?

    Suing over bad reviews is self-defeating.
    The best defense is a good offense.
    Improve your product and get the new, improved product reviewed.
    (Don't Mikeysoft the deal and buy the reviews, though).

    1. Re:Winners win and Losers sue! by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      The Streisand Effect means suing over bad reviews just brings more attention to the bad reviews... better to keep your mouth shut!

      --
      I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
  26. Would you put up with it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & this link (the libel of myself here on this site kept up afterwards (long after) http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    My addendum posts beneath it show MORE & THAT I AM TELLING IT HOW IT IS with PROOF my ware's clean!

    SOME IDIOT EVEN DOWNMODDED THAT TRYING TO HIDE IT talk proof of guilt on their part AND IT IS ALL EASILY SUBSTANTIATED FACT I USED TO DISPROVE THAT LIBEL OF MYSELF!

    (It's Coren22 I suspect since he's one of the ones that had to "eat their words" on falsely calling my program a malware etc. - et al, once I ran thru every possible validation of my program NOT being one including sourcecode reviews BY MALWAREBYTES' PEOPLE, & every antivirus there is just about clearing me too!)

    Others in the industry go thru it as well - I cited Mr. Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (whom I have discussed this with more than a few times) & he does GREAT tools too - idiots had the NERVE to libel him calling various wares of ~90 of them malware & he TOO had to go thru the efforts I did disproving it with valid results & backing to clear HIS GOOD NAME!

    I won't go thru that shit anymore than he did - & I've turned over @ LEAST 10 antivirus false positives in my day from ESET-NOD32/McAfee-Intel/Symantec-Norton/ClamAV/Comodo/Sophos/EmsiSoft/Qihoo360 & Computer Associates YEARS before (who lowered me to zero threat levels & the others removed the false positives)...

    APK

    P.S.=> NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO GO THRU HAVING THEIR GOOD NAME SMEARED THAT WAY - it can RUIN your career since many employers scan the internet prior to hiring you (that'd be MY GROUNDS for shitheads trying to screw me up on a lawsuit actually)... apk

  27. Re:Good for them: Mmell did that to me here by omnichad · · Score: 0

    He also CALLED ME A PEDO (read the link) - that fool mmell apparently doesn't understand LIBEL law!

    He implied it. That's not libel.

    But please, go ahead and dox yourself by filing a publicly documented lawsuit.

  28. Re:Good for them: Mmell did that to me here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is your friendly reminder that raving obsessive lunatics like APK are historically proven to be untrustworthy.

  29. Re:Good for them: Mmell did that to me here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Friendly reminder that obsessive raving lunatics like APK are historically untrustworthy.

  30. Malwarebytes hpHosts hosts + recommends me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Even testing it for safety/nonthreat in sourcecode + ~60 antivirus programs clearing me too http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... YET IDIOTS NAMED Coren22 & MMell (with others I am assembling from my bookmarks who did the same libeling myself attempting to RUIN MY GOOD NAME IN THIS INDUSTRY) said it's "malware" & that I am an "identity thief" & worse (calling me pedo & child molester).

    I AM NOT A PEDO/CHILD MOLESTER, nor a MALWARE MAKER (my ware's proven to protect you vs. malware probably better than ANYTHING ELSE under the sun does more PROACTIVELY by blocking sources of threats so you never touch them - that even beats antivirus/antispyware/antimalware protection which waits till you're infected 1st to remove it...)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am going to do something about it BEYOND what I have already to clear my name - reviewing all this REALLY pissed me off & I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THRU IT, period... apk

  31. Re:Good for them: Mmell did that to me here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like solid facts on topic to defend one's self vs. libel designed to ruin one's reputation in the eyes of others to me and against illogical off topic ad hominem attacks from you who obviously down moderated it to hide it since you're now posting by ac to not remove your down moderations!

  32. Where Is the Sin? by JimSadler · · Score: 1

    People are entitled to have an opinion and share that opinion even if a party suffers loss due to that opinion. For example, I do not like Smith and Wesson pistols. They do not feel right in my hand and they almost feel like junk to me. I prefer Taurus or Colt pistols. If I just happen to own stock in Colt does that make me liable? Heck, I also dislike the republican party. Crimes by the republican party define it as an ongoing criminal enterprise in my opinion. So can they sue me?

  33. Re:Good for them: Mmell did that to me here by omnichad · · Score: 1

    Oh. I guess you threaten to do that, but never follow through: http://www.thorschrock.com/200...

  34. Good reply - made sense on correlation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Omnichad you'd say every ac = me & it's a good reply on correlation! YOU going to call my ware a malware falsely libeling me too now? I've got LOADS of proof it's not.

    I REITERATE: I am no malware maker, no fag, no child molester/pedo either as the scum around here have posted many times...

    &

    I had to go thru the struggle of JEALOUS UNSKILLED FOOLS who can't do better giving me SHIT for doing the RIGHT THING in a program that's PROVEN TO PROTECT USERS FROM MALWARE?

    * FUCK YOU OMNICHAD - HOW DID "EATING YOUR WORDS" TASTE SHITBRAIN?

    See link below for PROOF OF THAT VERY THING!

    APK

    P.S.=> Fuck you - especially YOU - considering you've tried & FAILED @ proving my points on hosts wrong (you can't do it, nobody can - I've outthought all my 'detractors'/'naysayers' long ago) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ON TRUSTWORTHINESS OF MY PROGRAM? Gosh, I wonder who posted THAT SAME BULLSHIT HERE omnichad TODAY-> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

    1. Re:Good reply - made sense on correlation by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Omnichad you'd say every ac = me & it's a good reply on correlation!

      No, you literally linked to it and said it was you.

  35. I told Thor SCHMUCK I'd speak to an attorney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No threat (I did do that, Mr. Lowe @ Hiscock & Barclay) & I had that removed as no threat too by CA - going to call my ware a malware now Omnichad?

    Answer that.

    TWISTING THINGS YOU LITTLE SCHMUCK?

    So you know - I spoke to an attorney as I said I would @ Hiscock & Barclay (Mr. Lowe) about it!

    So - I did exactly what I said following what the attorney FIRST said to do, & it worked out as follow below!

    Attorney told me I had a WINNING CASE to the tune of 250k iirc & to do what I said & IF THEY DIDN'T LOWER ME? We'd sue.

    They lowered it to NO THREAT!

    APK

    P.S.=> Let's see what YOU do and then we'll see what I DO ABOUT IT to the new owners here along with what I told Mr. SCHMUCK I'd do (whom his partners CA sold off their bogus security suite after being caught in ACCOUNTING SCANDALS & also lowered my ware to ZERO THREAT LEVELS/no threat after I passed all 21 of the removal questions they do after a false accusation & false positive)... apk

    1. Re:I told Thor SCHMUCK I'd speak to an attorney by omnichad · · Score: 1

      No, I'm not going to call your software malware. The only thing acting like malware is the way you treat Slashdot commenters.

      The funny thing about the CA story is that you escalated it for no reason when they were willing to work with you on amicable terms. And in fact, they didn't lower the rating after you threatened to sue, they lowered the rating because you did what they would have asked you nicely to do in the first place:

      lowered my ware to ZERO THREAT LEVELS/no threat after I passed all 21 of the removal questions they do after a false accusation & false positive

      False positives are not malicious. You can't be surprised that a program that modifies the HOSTS file would be flagged.

    2. Re:I told Thor SCHMUCK I'd speak to an attorney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow, you're a real scumbag.

    3. Re:I told Thor SCHMUCK I'd speak to an attorney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't dare do it now omnichad. He made you eat your words calling his stuff untrustworthy in the past http://slashdot.org/comments.p... omnichad and the fact he told Thor Schrock he'd speak to an attorney and it seems he did, you have no case and are a liar that twists things. He followed through on what he was instructed to do by an attorney passing all CA's 21 question removal list and came through having them reduce the threat. Omnichad, you're a reprehensible liar or you can't remember things very well and cannot read properly.

    4. Re:I told Thor SCHMUCK I'd speak to an attorney by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Please. It's you, APK. Do you want me to run your posts through linguistic analysis software? Because I won't. I don't care that much.

  36. Bullshit: Time to "eat your words" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I linked to where I was called a fag http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... not the reply on correlation you accuse of being ME & you have no proof of that either for shit's sake, loser.

    APK

    P.S.=> Are you fucked in the head or what? PEOPLE CAN READ & CHECK THAT THEMSELVES idiot! apk

    1. Re:Bullshit: Time to "eat your words" by omnichad · · Score: 1

      You haven't denied it was you, either. Because it is. The reason you post as AC is that you've been banned from every forum you've ever signed up for for being a troll:

      https://forums.techguy.org/thr...
      http://arstechnica.com/civis/v...
      I'm honestly don't feel like finding more right now, but you know they're out there.

      I really have no problem with software that helps automate hosts file generation. What I and everyone in the world has a problem with is a person spamming forums with off-topic posts and attacking people who disagree with your methods.

    2. Re:Bullshit: Time to "eat your words" by omnichad · · Score: 1

      This is the face of a troll:
      https://web.archive.org/web/20...

    3. Re:Bullshit: Time to "eat your words" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that the best you have omnichad? I caught you fucking up here already lying http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

      APK

      P.S.=> You FAIL as always caught in your lies + other reprehensible troll crap - thanks for being SO stupid, seriously! That troll face? It must be YOUR SELF-PORTRAIT, loser...

      Why not spend time doing a program LIKE MINE instead that gives users more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity online & IS NOT A MALWARE in APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.start64.com/index.p... which does all that for LESS but doing FAR MORE too from 1 single file you already have natively operating in a FAR faster kernelmode level vs. browser addons in usermode using MORE wastefully & redundantly since hosts resolve 1st & use less RAM/CPU + messagepassing overheads by FAR... apk

    4. Re:Bullshit: Time to "eat your words" by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Why not spend time doing a program LIKE MINE

      Why don't you spend more time doing that and less time trolling? There are better marketing plans, I assure you.

    5. Re:Bullshit: Time to "eat your words" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're apk's best marketing plan in him showing you lied again omnichad http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... you should quit now while you're already behind because of your mistakes and lies shown in that link alone dude.

  37. Omnichad likes the word UNTRUSTWORTHY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Used it here today again in the post I replied to & in the past where I made OMNICHAD EAT HIS WORDS http://slashdot.org/comments.p... on that very note... lol!

    (YOU LOSE LOSER - that's what you are, omnichad - a libelous little loser who can't prove me wrong on facts I post about my FINE program that does more for speed, security, reliability & anonymity than ANY single other 'solution' does, for LESS... proven clean by SO MANY SOURCES, you have to 'eat your words' scumbag!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a LOSER omnichad - tell us: HOW DID EATING YOUR WORDS TASTE? Flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH RAMMING THEM DOWN YOUR THROAT TO CHOKE ON THEM especially, lol, & spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat"too perhaps?? Yes, lol... apk

  38. Omnichad likes the word UNTRUSTWORTHY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Used it today again in a post I replied to & in the past & I made OMNICHAD EAT HIS WORDS http://slashdot.org/comments.p... on that very note... lol!

    (YOU LOSE LOSER - that's what you are, omnichad - a libelous little loser who can't prove me wrong on facts I post about my FINE program that does more for speed, security, reliability & anonymity than ANY single other 'solution' does, for LESS... proven clean by SO MANY SOURCES, you have to 'eat your words' scumbag!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a LOSER omnichad - tell us: HOW DID EATING YOUR WORDS TASTE? Flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH RAMMING THEM DOWN YOUR THROAT TO CHOKE ON THEM especially, lol, & spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat"too perhaps?? Yes, lol... apk

  39. Truth is an affirmative defense to defamation by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    Meaning that if Bleeping Computer wins the lawsuit, the Streisand Effect means Enigma loses a lot more business than if they had just ignored the review. I, for one, have never heard of Bleeping Computer and would never have read the review in the first place. Of course, I've never heard of Enigma and would never have bought their software in the first place; most antimalware software seems like a scam to me anyway. Microsoft provides Windows Defender for free; why would I want to PAY for anitvirus?

    --
    I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
  40. Re:Addendum #2: AC calls me child molester by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

    Are you posting from the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge by any chance?

    --
    I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
  41. Omnichad eats his UNTRUSTWORTHY words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Used it today here via AC troll posts I replied to & in the past & OMNICHAD ATE HIS WORDS http://slashdot.org/comments.p... on that very note... lol!

    (YOU LOSE LOSER - that's what you are, omnichad - a libelous little loser who can't prove me wrong on facts I post about my FINE program that does more for speed, security, reliability & anonymity than ANY single other 'solution' does, for LESS... proven clean by SO MANY SOURCES, you have to 'eat your words' scumbag!)

    GOING TO LIBEL ME CALLING MY WARE A MALWARE NOW BULLSHITTER?

    Try it motherfucker - see what happens...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a LOSER omnichad - tell us: HOW DID EATING YOUR WORDS TASTE? Flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH RAMMING THEM DOWN YOUR THROAT TO CHOKE ON THEM especially, lol, & spiced with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat"too perhaps?? Yes, lol... apk

  42. I did as an attorney instructed & won by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Mr. Lowe (Hiscock & Barclay) advised me to take CA's 21 question removal test (passed it), they removed false positive. IF they did not, he told me I had a 250k lawsuit SURE WIN that would take time but I was right & I'd win... CA & Mr. SCHMUCK must've seen it that way too, as they REMOVED THE FALSE POSITIVE accusation of a ware of mine from LONG ago being a 'malware'...

    APK

    P.S.=> If anyone's SCUMBAGS around here? It's FLEA "ne'er-do-wells" like YOU that don't do anything good as I have that PROTECTS USERS from threats online + speeds them up better than ANY other solution out there doing more for speed, security, reliability & anonymity for users with FAR less resources consummed + less chance for ClarityRay/BlockIQ/PageFair detecting & blocking other 'solutions' (adblock/ublock/ghostery etc. in browser addons)!

    FACT!

    Another fact - nobody's validly technically proven me wrong yet either to date on THIS site or elsewhere - just BULLSHIT LIBEL & LIES in illogical ad hominem attacks on ME, but not disproving my points on hosts superiority on nearly every grounds conceivable! apk

  43. Eat UR words: I did as attorney instructed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: & I won - Mr. Lowe (Hiscock & Barclay) had me take CA's removal test (passed it), they removed false positive.

    IF they did not, he told me I had a 250k lawsuit SURE WIN!

    (... that would take time but I was right & I'd win...)

    CA & Mr. SCHMUCK must've seen it that way too, as they REMOVED THE FALSE POSITIVE!

    (Another FALSE accusation of a ware of mine from LONG ago being a 'malware'...one of probably nearly a DOZEN I've overturned from these WANNABE "experts" from antivirus companies looking to FUCK GOOD PEOPLE LIKE ME & MY GOOD NAME IN THIS INDUSTRY - no way I will alllow it, and I always win... my ware is CLEAN & YOU NOW ADMIT IT loser!)

    Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT's gone thru this bullshit too - he wins as I do, not as much, but he does - we're not alone in being LIBELED thus!

    APK

    P.S.=> Fact: Mere "ne'er-do-wells" like YOU that don't do anything good as I have that PROTECTS USERS from threats online + speeds them up better than ANY other solution out there doing more for speed, security, reliability & anonymity for users with FAR less resources consummed + less chance for ClarityRay/BlockIQ/PageFair detecting & blocking other 'solutions' (adblock/ublock/ghostery etc. in browser addons)!

    Another fact - nobody's validly technically proven me wrong yet either to date on THIS site or elsewhere - just BULLSHIT LIBEL & LIES in illogical ad hominem attacks on ME, but not disproving my points on hosts superiority on nearly every grounds conceivable! apk

    1. Re:Eat UR words: I did as attorney instructed by omnichad · · Score: 1

      IF they did not, he told me I had a 250k lawsuit SURE WIN!

      Lawyer's love to tell you that. It makes them money.

      my ware is CLEAN & YOU NOW ADMIT IT loser!)

      When did I say it was dirty? You keep trying to make this about your HOSTS file engine but I wasn't talking about it.

      Nir is a nice guy who doesn't spam and doesn't troll. I even use his tools.

      illogical ad hominem attacks on ME, but not disproving my points on hosts superiority on nearly every grounds conceivable! apk

      That's because there's nothing wrong with your software. There's something wrong with you as a person. It's not ad hominem if you're the actual subject. It doesn't have to be that way. Just stop trolling.

  44. Re:Addendum #2: AC calls me child molester by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like he's posting from APK the invincible winner land to me http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

  45. Eat your words again omnichad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's all here as to what I linked to and it's not ME calling myself a fag http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and the post after was a good reply on correlation that you'd have to PROVE is me, you can't (more false accusations - YOU ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY!)

    * YOU LOSE AGAIN, loser... tell us:

    HOW DOES EATING YOUR WORDS TASTE omnichad?

    Flavored w/ the BITTER taste of SELF-defeat, your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH ramming those words back down your throat so you CHOKE on them perhaps?

    APK

    P.S.=> Loved making you BOW DOWN & GROVEL TOO you little bitch -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    &

    Here too with nothing but TRUTH vs. YOUR LIES weasel -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    GOING TO CALL MY WARE UNTRUSTWORTHY AGAIN OR ME THAT TOO ASSHOLE?

    You don't DARE do it now loser. I've got too much backing me and it's always a PLEASURE seeing a weasel like you SQUIRM, bitch... lol!

    R O T F L M A O - you FAIL as always & YOU ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY (the word you've been posting here repeatedly as ac posts but you used it in the past & that past IS YOUR UNDOING loser -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... )

    1. Re:Eat your words again omnichad by omnichad · · Score: 1

      You didn't answer anything with this post. But you are getting a lot more unstable. It typically takes you 3-5 more rants to get to this point, but this is the point where your babble becomes completely incomprehensible for the duration of the conversation.

      I don't post as AC unless I've already used mod points on a thread, but if you think that I'm the only one who uses the word "untrustworthy" you are no more crazy than I already think you are.

  46. How's eating your words taste omnichad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & change your diet - you'll die of malnutrition if you don't from EATING YOUR WORDS liar http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    * :)

    APK

    P.S.=> I loved making you GROVEL bitch - going to call me or my ware untrustworthy again OR A MALWARE like CA & Thor SCHMUCK did?

    FUNNY YOU DON'T NOW - you don't DARE bitch!

    Funny they saw it like my attorney did & I passed their removal test for their BLATANT FALSE POSITIVE TOO, eh? Not - they're idiots I crushed with truth & fact as always, just like I do a WORM like you, easily... lol! apk

    1. Re:How's eating your words taste omnichad? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      So you say you only argue with facts. Is that why you have no argument against me saying it's you posting as your own faux supporters?

      I wonder what your software development customers in Syracuse would think if they saw your Slashdot history.

  47. wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SpyHunter is a piece of sh*t program! Anyone that's tried to remove malware from their computer knows this. Why is it a POS? 1. Because it's pretty much malware in itself. 2. They use deceptive advertising.

    It's not a good program. Use MBAM, or Adwcleaner.

  48. CA & Thor Schmuck backed down fast though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: So have you calling my ware & me untrustworthy: How's eating your words taste omnichad?

    Change your diet - you'll die of malnutrition if you don't from EATING YOUR WORDS liar http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    * :)

    APK

    P.S.=> I loved making you GROVEL bitch - going to call me or my ware untrustworthy again OR A MALWARE like CA & Thor SCHMUCK did?

    FUNNY YOU DON'T NOW - you don't DARE bitch!

    No asshole: There's NOTHING WRONG WITH ME, it's you you disgusting reprehensible little FUCKING prick! I defend myself with facts and I PROVE YOU'RE A FUCKING LIAR I've made eat his words before too!

    Funny they saw it like my attorney did & I passed their removal test for their BLATANT FALSE POSITIVE TOO, eh? Not - they're idiots I crushed with truth & fact as always, just like I do a WORM like you, easily... lol! apk

    1. Re:CA & Thor Schmuck backed down fast though by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Funny they saw it like my attorney did & I passed their removal test for their BLATANT FALSE POSITIVE TOO, eh?

      Funny, that sounds like you did what they would have asked you to in the first place with no lawyers involved. It has nothing to do with your threats.

      You literally followed their false positive removal process as a normal person would and still claim that you won because you paid a lawyer to tell you to do it.

      All of your name calling and chest puffing is really unnecessary. You say you argue with facts, and yet you spend most of your post ranting like a lunatic in all caps and bold and not staying on topic at all. Keep your posts to the facts, and they'll be shorter and people will read them. Be nice to people in the process, and people won't call you a troll.

  49. Mmell & Coren22 did it to me on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Mmell http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... & Coren22 http://slashdot.org/comments.p... (& others also)

    They called my program APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit a malware (me an identity thief which I am not)!

    Mmell CALLED ME A PEDO (I'm NOT) - he doesn't understand LIBEL law!

    Slashdot & DICE left it calling me a CHILD MOLESTER on this site too AFTER I TOLD THEM ABOUT IT http://mobile.slashdot.org/com...

    WTF - I AM NOT A CHILD MOLESTER anymore than I am a malware maker (I am neither - My ware's proven to protect users from malware)!

    I proved otherwise via MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee verified it's source as safe http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi... ) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    &

    MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per a VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    &

    It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    ---

    There's idiots here I have bookmarked saying my programs are malware http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    (Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT has same crap happen to him & he advised me 1st to go thru the process above, overturning ANY false positives IF ANY OCCUR, & Malwarebytes' HpHosts assisted me as did hostfile.org's Mr. Alexander in those matter as well. They've seen it before & INITIALLY prior to hosting my ware, made me go thru hoops to test it & SEE MY SOURCE also, which they did - see 1st link above, in older models 5.0-8,0)

    APK

    P.S.=> 4x already someone's TRYING TO HIDE THIS BY BOGUS DOWNMODS (proof of guilt in & of itself on their parts, Mmell, Coren22, & others trying to SMEAR MY GOOD NAME IN THIS INDUSTRY) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... + http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... & http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

  50. Eat ur words again like CA/Thor Schmuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: EAT YOUR WORDS on this lie of yours too omnichad http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... & I am laughing so hard at you, not unstable @ all other than LMAO @ U!

    * I love it... thank you for vindicating me ALL THE MORE vs. slime online like yourself, obviously an untalented "ne'er-do-well" that is jealous of my ware doing well now and you can't prove me wrong on it validly technically OR do a better one yourself, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Shouldn't have opened your mouth Omniweasel - I keep making you EAT YOUR WORDS, lol... apk

  51. False accusations from you, CA/Thor Schmuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: CA/Thor Schmuck backed down & you don't DARE say I or my ware = untrustworthy suddenly http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    NO, NOW SUDDENLY YOU CHANGE YOUR TUNE! Hahahahaha, you lose.

    * :)

    (Who always wins? I do... lol, especially vs. "ne'er-do-wells" with no talent that can't validly prove me wrong on my points on hosts OR do a better programming work than I have... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Tell us ANOTHER LIE too here omnichad & EAT YOUR WORDS AGAIN ON THIS TOO -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    1. Re:False accusations from you, CA/Thor Schmuck by omnichad · · Score: 1

      No tune change. You haven't said anything new. What do you think they do with other false positives? Not have them fill out a 21 question questionnaire? Or did they write that just for you? I think Occam's Razor says they already had a 21 question test in place for ALL false positives - even the ones who don't bring in a lawyer.

    2. Re:False accusations from you, CA/Thor Schmuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Omnichad apk got Computer Associates to rescind a false positive. Your false accusation's a mistake too http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... Call me or every anon coward posting in apk's defense him but we're telling the truth that you messed up and you'd have to prove we're him. You can't. He proved you're full of lies and a scumbag.

    3. Re:False accusations from you, CA/Thor Schmuck by omnichad · · Score: 1

      APK, the fact still stands that you did so by following the normal false positive removal plan. The one that anyone can do without lawyers. You know, the 21 question test they just happened to have ready for you. Not a coincidence.

      Call me or every anon coward posting in apk's defense him but we're telling the truth that you messed up and you'd have to prove we're him.

      I don't have to prove you're you. Your alter ego just posts slightly more coherently. Maybe you should have that alter ego do all your posting. At least there's no bold or all caps.

      But it sure was funny when you accused an AC of being me. "You'd have to prove" it's me. "You can't." But that's because it really wasn't me. I really haven't posted AC except when I've moderated. I don't have any reason to.

    4. Re:False accusations from you, CA/Thor Schmuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it matter omnichad? You've been caught in a false accusation already directed apk's way http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8709521&cid=51446915 and apk made Computer Associates and Thor Schmuck back down. You pointed them out. Apk did not threaten. He told them he'd talk to an attorney which he clearly did and it sent a spook through CA apparently since apk passed their removal test and he was downgraded to no threat. You lose omnichad. Lying was bad on your part too where you made a huge mistake falsely accusing apk here http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8709521&cid=51446915

  52. You're mistakes & lies are my supporters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Tell us another LIE like you did here I disproved easily omnichad http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    * :)

    EAT YOUR WORDS bitch...

    APK

    P.S.=> I posted a link where I was CALLED A FAG (which I am not) NOT to whom you call a faux supporter who actually made SENSE with correlation replies & NOT what you said I posted stupid - WoW! You are turning up a HUGE help with your mistakes to me, lol... apk

  53. Re:Mmell & Coren22 did it to me on /. by omnichad · · Score: 1

    BOGUS DOWNMODS

    Are you aware that the downmod was flagged as troll? Are you aware of what a troll is?

    In Internet slang, a troll (/trol/, /trl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.

    Which part of that definition are you saying was bogus on your downmod. Do you want me to break down the definition point by point with examples?

  54. I'm on topic omnichad troll, are you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject/answer the question: You fail on Computer Associates + Thor SCMUCK you brought up to flop on your face with http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... AND falsely accusing me of things you can't prove too in a huge mistake on your part-> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    APK

    P.S.=> Instead of trolling me & failing, why don't you spend time doing a program LIKE MINE instead that gives users more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity online & IS PROVEN NOT TO BE A MALWARE by both code reviews BY THE BEST (per this article in Malwarebytes' folks) + ~60 other antivirus programs too in APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit http://www.start64.com/index.p...

    Which does all that for LESS but doing FAR MORE too from 1 single file you already have natively operating in a FAR faster kernelmode level vs. browser addons in usermode using MORE wastefully & redundantly since hosts resolve 1st & use less RAM/CPU + messagepassing overheads by FAR (& it's not ClarityRay/BlockIQ/PageFair detectable & blockable like browser addons either)... apk

    1. Re:I'm on topic omnichad troll, are you? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      You brought up to flop on your face

      Sounds messy. Still don't know what it is.

      You fail on Computer Associates + Thor

      You didn't follow through and sue. You didn't even settle out of court. You just followed the standard false positive removal procedure. Because false positives are a valid part of the malware detection process and there's already a reasonable way to handle it.

  55. LOL: Where'd I threaten to sue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I told Thor Schmuck I'd speak w/ an attorney & did who instructed me to take CA's 21 removal questions & I passed it - they rescinded a false positive. I won as always vs. libelous accusations by antivirus companies or fool trolls like yourself everytime (@ least 10 antivirus companies have had to do that for me - so much for "experts").

    * They had to BACK DOWN & you are off topic trolling and lying as my last link shows yet again, so back off loser.

    APK

    P.S.=> Nothing was WORSE than you OUTRIGHT LYING omnichad-> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... in yet ANOTHER false accusation saying I ADMITTED something when I pointed to others calling me a FAG as I said and you erred on hugely... lol! apk

    1. Re:LOL: Where'd I threaten to sue? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Listing ONLY “Peter Kowalski” not my full name, easily apparent in the program itself, as Alexander Peter Kowalski. Thus, I’d never find it online) & this would be part of the grunds I am suing on if need be for libelling me online since 2004. This is not an idle threat, it is a certainty. I am rather insulted & furious regarding this incident that has long been hidden from myself via what I feel are nefarious means.
      This is libel, no questions asked.

      False claims of libel are completely on-topic.

  56. Omichad's FALSE claim off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject (are you on topic? No) & this FALSE CLAIM from you in error http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8709521&cid=51446915 & Computer Associates (known for accounting scandals fraud) & Thor SCHMUCK both did removing a false positive at my passing their tests for removal!

    * ARE YOU ON TOPIC Mr. Schrock? No.

    (Did you have to back down on calling my ware or me UNTRUSTWORTHY too?? Yes)

    CA & Thor SCHMUCK (you I suspect omnichad) were WRONG - & you proved yourself WRONG bigtime making false accusations MY way here too, stupid... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Try "forums slide" burying this OR bogusly downmodding it again, I will repost until you & your sockpuppets run out of your abused modpoints - wouldn't be a first to expose online SCUM like you... apk

    1. Re:Omichad's FALSE claim off topic by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Why not just log in instead of cheating your way around Slashdot's abuse system? Because you're an abuser!

    2. Re:Omichad's FALSE claim off topic by omnichad · · Score: 1

      CA & Thor SCHMUCK (you I suspect omnichad)

      Wait...I just now saw this. Now you think my account belongs to the Computer Associates guy? I could understand you thinking an AC or two, but to think that he would pick some random persona just to persecute you...

      You know, I didn't realize that bipolar people could have persecutory/paranoid delusions. I thought that was just schizophrenia. I just read up on it: http://psycheducation.org/diag...

      It might be worth seeing a psychiatrist about your bipolar disorder. It might make a huge positive difference for you.

  57. Re:Mmell & Coren22 did it to me on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    omnichad why'd Computer Associates/Thor Schrock remove apk's ware listed as a threat if they're right? They were wrong and admitted it.

  58. Truth? I'd NEVER be like you... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all your fails vs. myself I've proven & posted you have the nerve to ask that? Slashdot's abuse system = YOU, off topic troll!

    APK

    P.S.=> I am, what I am - invincibly superior in the power of truth & fact itself - I have to give trolls like you credit in 1 aspect though, in your favor which I thank you for: You make ME, look REALLY Good! R O T F L M A O - thanks!)

    It's not easy being "world-class" like me vs. you trolls - I just use truth & facts vs. your b.s. - pretty easy actually but, lol (& you KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, now don't you? Ah, but of COURSE you do, & 'n "here 'tis", lol):

    THIS?

    This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just TOO damn easy '2ez'" as it always is, vs. libelous trolls in whatever shape they may assume - vs. truth, their self-destruction is assured - they do it, to themselves vs. "yours truly" every SINGLE time, lol, vs. SLAVES to javascript & tracking cookies, bought & sold easily tracked sheep - it's just not my way & I am way, Way, WAY FASTER for it also - megabonuses, everywhere....

    ... apk

  59. If you were libelled/slandered . . . by mmell · · Score: 1
    Why haven't you sued?

    BTW, do you still use your hostfile manager when you download kiddie porn? Just askin'.

    1. Re:If you were libelled/slandered . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You worth anything nigger? No. Go back on da welfare, nigger.

  60. You're an off topic idiotic troll omnichad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Get on topic and GROW UP, ok? Do the planet a favor, & do that...

    APK

    P.S.=> It must be horrible to live an existence like yours being an online (& I strongly suspect this is the case with you in the real world also) "ne'er-do-well", & nothing more... apk

  61. Re: Mmell & Coren22 did it to me on /. by matt_hs · · Score: 1

    With all due respect sir-or-ma'am, in my opinion you've torpedoed your own image, at least on this thread on Slashdot, by your continued postings over and over and over and over and over. I had no idea about any good name, or accusations, or anything until you kept posting hen over and over and over and over and over. In the words of Shakespeare, methinks he doth protest too much.

  62. Another sockpuppet speaks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & STFU: Jerks here downmod my posts endlessly minus any solid justifications & aren't identifiable which speaks WORLDS of how bogus the design of the easily sockpuppet cheated so-called "moderation system" (freedom of speech suppression system is more like it) and don't even identify yourselves doing it (no way to face a detractor)?

    * You're the REAL cowards... no doubt about it!

    APK

    P.S.=> 1/2 of you are ok - I know this, but there are packs of idiots around here doing that, trolling me off topic, and when it's done to you in return & someone like me can outsmart the downmoderation patrol? You start "CRYING" then, well, too bad - you downmod me?? I repost until you run out of your DOWNMOD POINTS... apk

  63. IF Computer Associates/ThorSchmuck = right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: WHY'd they get it wrong on a program of mine & have to remove it as a threat, omnichad?

    * You're a fucking moron... FALSE POSITIVES are indicative of MASSIVE FUCKING UP on ANY antivirus companies' part - period!

    THE STUPID SHITBRAINS RESISTED REMOVING IT SO I FORCED THEIR STUPID ASS HANDS INTO GOING MY WAY! Their people ARE inferior to me in computing skills & they knew it... I outsmarted them using their OWN bogus rules to do it no less too.

    (That alone makes me right - look @ the results!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Try "forums slide" BURY this all you like but it doesn't change that fact above - they're morons I got the better of like I do any OTHER morons, like you, every single time... apk

  64. IF computer associates/thorschmuck = right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: WHY'd they get it wrong on a program of mine & have to remove it as a threat, omnichad?

    * You're a fucking moron omnichad!

    Fucking up declaring programs "viruses" that are ANYTHING BUT THAT (mine prevents them) IS WRONG AS WRONG GETS!

    Their people are inferior to me in computing skills & they KNEW it - I beat them using THEIR OWN BOGUS RULES TOO, no less!

    (That alone makes me right - look @ the results!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Try "forums slide" BURY this all you like but it doesn't change that fact above - they're morons I got the better of like I do any OTHER morons, like you, every single time... apk

  65. If ThorSchmuck & Computer Associates = right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: WHY'd they have to remove my ware as a virus downgrading it to no threat? They were WRONG is why!

    * :)

    (YOU FAIL SCHMUCK - you will always fail vs. truth & facts, & those are the FACTS!)

    APK

    P.S.=> They RESISTED it so I beat them with their OWN BOGUS RULES - which was SO satisfying in & of itself, forcing their stupid erroneous hand to MY victory, easily... apk

  66. If ThorSchmuck & Computer Associates = right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: WHY'd they have to remove my ware as a virus downgrading it to no threat? They were WRONG is why!

    * :)

    (YOU FAIL SCHMUCK - you will always fail vs. truth & facts, & those are the FACTS)

    APK

    P.S.=> They RESISTED it so I beat them with their OWN BOGUS RULES - which was SO satisfying in & of itself, forcing their stupid erroneous hand to MY victory, easily... apk

  67. If ThorSchmuck & Computer Associates = right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: WHY'd they have to remove my ware as a virus downgrading it to no threat? They were WRONG is why!

    * :)

    (YOU FAIL SCHMUCK - you will always fail vs. truth & facts, & those are the FACTS - facts both YOU & THOR SCHMUCK + COMPUTER ASSOCIATES FAIL vs. "yours truly", as always... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> They RESISTED it so I beat them with their OWN BOGUS RULES - which was SO satisfying in & of itself, forcing their stupid erroneous hand to MY victory, easily... apk

  68. If ThorSchmuck & Computer Associates = right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: WHY'd they have to remove my ware as a virus downgrading it to no threat? They were WRONG is why!

    * :)

    (YOU FAIL SCHMUCK - you will always fail vs. truth & facts, & those are the FACTS - facts YOU & Computer Associates FAILED vs. "yours truly", SCHMUCK!)

    APK

    P.S.=> They RESISTED it so I beat them with their OWN BOGUS RULES - which was SO satisfying in & of itself, forcing their stupid erroneous hand to MY victory, easily... apk

  69. If ThorSchmuck & Computer Associates = right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: WHY'd they have to remove my ware as a virus downgrading it to no threat? They were WRONG is why!

    * :)

    (YOU FAIL SCHMUCK - you will always fail vs. truth & facts, & those are the FACTS - Facts BOTH you & Computer Associates FAILED vs. "yours truly", SCHMUCK!)

    APK

    P.S.=> They RESISTED it so I beat them with their OWN BOGUS RULES - which was SO satisfying in & of itself, forcing their stupid erroneous hand to MY victory, easily... apk

  70. Re: Mmell & Coren22 did it to me on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your post history shows you're a rarely used sock puppet fake account that hasn't posted in months this year+ a year gap since 2014 too. Go away sockpuppet.

  71. Re: Mmell & Coren22 did it to me on /. by matt_hs · · Score: 1

    For which I take immense pride.

    You see, I have a job. And a family. And I finished my degree in that time. And other things to occupy my time besides letting my mind rot on video games and Slashdot.

    And I have curiosity, and a little free time now, so I thought I'd check out what was going on here. At least I'm willing to continue posting under my account.

    TL;DR: I have a life; you don't.

  72. Re: Mmell & Coren22 did it to me on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have none of what you claim and are a sock puppet obviously that is rarely used.

  73. Re: Mmell & Coren22 did it to me on /. by matt_hs · · Score: 1

    Jealous much?

    Here, try this. It may help.http://www.wgu.edu/

    TL;DR: You're jealous; try getting off your butt and educating yourself.

  74. Re: Mmell & Coren22 did it to me on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have none of what you claim and are a sock puppet obviously that is rarely used. Sockpuppeting mere student. Apk's a long time proven pro with multiple degrees around computing to go with it rookie amateur.