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Kanye West Is Reportedly Considering Legal Action Against the Pirate Bay

An anonymous reader writes: Kanye West apparently has a new mission: to sue The Pirate Bay. Last weekend, West announced that his new album, The Life of Pablo, would be sold exclusively as a download from his website and the artist-driven streaming music service Tidal. The news sent Tidal to No. 1 on the U.S. Apple App Store, so West pulled the album from his site and announced it wouldn't be released on other streaming services. The Internet responded by pirating his album in droves.

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  1. God this guy in an idiot by Harlequin80 · · Score: 5, Informative

    And his music is terrible.

    1. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I pirated this twice, just so I could delete it twice. Screw you Kanye West. You suck, and everyone knows it.

    2. Re:God this guy in an idiot by mjwx · · Score: 4, Funny

      And his music is terrible.

      Yep, TBP should sue Kanye for slander/deformation on behalf of their users for insinuating that they listen to his crap (like all rap, I cant call it music).

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    3. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's basically the reason. If it was for the music, it would be filed under "your rights online" like any torture story.

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    4. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Iamthecheese · · Score: 5, Funny

      Flash that buttery gold, jittery zeitgeist
      Wither by the watering hole, water patrol
      What are we, a heart huckabee, art fuckery suddenly?
      Not enough young in his lung for the water wings?
      Colorfully vulgar poacher at a mulch like
      'I'ma pull the pulse out a soldier and bolt.' (Fine)
      Sign of the time we elapsed
      When a primate climb up the spine and attach
      Eye for an eye, by the bog's life swamps and vines
      They get a rise out of frogs and flies
      So when a dog fights hog-tied prize sorta costs a life
      The mouths water on a fork and knife
      And the allure isn't right
      It's gore on a war-torn beach
      Where the cash cows actually beef
      Blood turns wine when I leak for police
      Like 'That's not a riot, it's a feast, let's eat.'


      I looked up some of Aesop Rock's lyrics because I was hoping you're right. This isn't quite word salad, but it's close.

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    5. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Megol · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now this is the stupidest comment I've read in a long time. No, electronic music or rap isn't "broken" - it may not fit your prejudiced idea of flow and tonal composition but that doesn't make it bad or wrong.

    6. Re:God this guy in an idiot by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If your writing has to be explained, then you're doing it wrong. I told the same thing to one of my college English professors about some of poets we were studying. I think I'm still right. Communication should be simple and straightforward. Making it meaningful and beautiful at the same time is called talent.

      The type of writing you've just explained can best be called cryptic. "Deep" doesn't mean "hard to figure out".

    7. Re:God this guy in an idiot by Britz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This totally depends. Just because you can't understand all parts of the linux kernel source code, it isn't crap code per se.

      Yes, there is beauty in simplicity, but there can also be beauty in complex things. Complex poems with double and triple meaning that might not be obvious at first glance. Or things that you can't understand with background knowledge, simply because you don't share the same background as the author. What if someone writes a beautiful poem about solving a complex programming issue and the joy in that. Can everyone understand that? Is it wrong, because not everyone gets that?

      Though lots of people feel like you feel. That is why almost every pop song is about love. Because that is something almost everyone, or at least everyone who buys music, can relate to. Simple and easy to understand is popular. Because it is accessible. Complex and complicated things are not popular. Thus pop songs sell better than operas. Which often is complex music that needs explaining.

      Many of the "higher" arts or "fine" arts need some education or can be better enjoyed once you acquire a little background. Or to put it different: An episode of Family Guy is better enjoyed, once you get all the pop culture references. Since they use pop culture, many people get the references and thus Family Guy itself is popular.

    8. Re:God this guy in an idiot by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If your writing has to be explained, then you're doing it wrong.

      He was only explaining it to someone who lacked either the insight, the brainpower, or the imagination to understand it himself. "If I don't get your art, then you suck" really isn't the way to go through life.

      Fortunately, we don't measure literature by the ability of the least of us to understand it. If we did, James Joyce, William Burroughs, Jorge Luis Borges, Robert Coover, Baudelaire, Thomas Pynchon and many others would be unknown.

      Explaining literature was my profession for 25 years. You explain it until the light goes on. Sometimes it never goes on, you know? For people like that, they make reality TV.

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    9. Re:God this guy in an idiot by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

      it's like playing an A minor, D major and then and F5 in the same bar

      Someone who's never heard of tritone substitutions.

      Add to this the grating tones they use and none of it is harmonious or melodic

      Schoenberg, Webern, Penderecki and Verese just called to say that you're a knucklehead. They were partying over at John Coltrane's house.

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    10. Re:God this guy in an idiot by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm too afraid that I might get a copy that has a virus that would force my computer to put his music on endless loop.

      That and I have more important things to do with that space on my drives... like keep the free space at a high percentage.

    11. Re:God this guy in an idiot by stealth_finger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even with your, translation or interpretation or whatever of the lines it still doesn't make much sense. It's just a bunch of clever or witty sounding lines with barely any connection strung together. I get there's a kind of overall theme but is it actually trying to say anything more?

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  2. Children behave by BitZtream · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can we please stop giving the retarded toddler throwing temper tantrums attention?

    He'll keep this shit up until it stops, so fuck stop talking about this ignorant no talent asshat and move along. Treat him like the child he is?

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  3. Yawn. by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tell us if he actually does sue. Otherwise, do we really care what he is considering? He might be considering a run for President, He might be considering competing in NASCAR, he might be considering any number of things, but until he actually does one of them, it's even more uninteresting.

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    1. Re:Yawn. by slashping · · Score: 4, Funny

      Speak for yourself. I would like to know when he's considering to make music.

  4. Wait wait by kuzb · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yo Kanye, I’m really happy for you, Imma let you finish but TPB has one of the best torrent sites of all time!

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  6. great! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i don't care for mr west. however, it's laughable to see a grown man act like this. he begs a billionaire for money because he's in a mountain of debt and instead of maximizing amount of money he could make, he instead chooses to restrict the release of his music to an obscure platform. the fans that are unhappy with these restrictions might have been willing to buy his music but now he's blown that chance and he's going after a website administrator who he blames for the choices of his fans which was an indirect result of his own choice to restrict the release. he brought these troubles upon himself and i have no sympathy for this emotionally stunted man-child who is about the waste the money he has made going after money he can no longer make.

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  7. Re:What's his beef with Apple? by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, I see.
    So he created a situation where one cannot own the album outright -- only stream it. Forcing the consumer into paying in perpetuity for a service he is part owner in.

  8. A fix.. by fred911 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    141A86FD1105A0951EB12A322C088883B5761475

    Now, in case The Pirate Bay cowers (doubtful), there's the file hash for the swarm. So if TPB is culpable for providing file hash data , who else is? /. Me?

    Guess when you're 56 million in the trick bag, publish a shitty no talent album, where the only business that makes money for you is dependant upon people paying $200 for tennis shoes, you point fingers on anyone you can.

      My guess... filing for protection or rehab.

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  9. Tidal sucks. Fuck Kanye and fuck Tidal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Let's clarify what happened. Kanye made his album available on his website and Tidal (where he is a part owner). Tidal has no free ad-supported plans. It's expensive compared to other services. When Tidal surged in popularity on Apple's app store, Kanye pulled his album from his own website. Now it's only available from Tidal.

    I'm tired of some albums only being available through different services. Instead of subscribing to one service or buying from one store (like iTunes), this pushes consumers to subscribe to multiple services. It's a pain in the ass. And it's because of greed.

    According to Billboard Magazine, some users who purchased the album on Kanye's site were charged multiple times while others never received a copy of the album. Now Kanye says it won't be for sale again, only available for streaming. That means instead of buying a copy of an album and being able to listen to it whenever I want without paying again, Kanye wants people to pay each month for the ability to listen to his album. It's fucking greedy.

    Because Kanye is a part owner of Tidal, he has two revenue sources. One is royalties from his album being streamed. The other is profits from the service because he has equity in Tidal. That means he collects royalties from his own work but collects profits from subscriptions to listen both to Kanye's music but that of other artists as well. If you're wealthy and powerful enough to be a part owner of Tidal, you get to profit from your own work plus that of other artists. That's as opposed to artists who aren't as wealthy and powerful, who will get paid at a lower rate because they only get royalties.

    I always thought Taylor Swift came across as a bit whiny about Spotify. But at least she said she wanted higher royalties for everyone and expressed concern about artists who weren't wealthy like her. Kanye isn't concerned about other artists. Kanye is concerned about Kanye. He's greedy as hell.

    I listen to a lot of new and indie artists who put their videos on YouTube. If I like their music, I'll happy buy it on iTunes. I understand that labels and the RIAA help to finance new artists so I'm not really opposed to them getting a cut. I'd certainly be willing to donate to support new artists if their music is good. But I hate the idea that, if I'm subscribing to a service to listen to some artists, that I have to give greedy bastards like Kanye a cut.

    It's time for the market to say "fuck you" to Kanye and "fuck you" to Tidal. Don't subscribe. Support artists who aren't greedy bastards. Support artists who make far better music than Kanye. If people were smart, they would not subscribe to Tidal, stop listening to Kanye, and support artists who aren't greedy. The market could put Tidal out of business, but people are too fucking stupid.

    Fuck Kanye. Fuck Tidal. Fuck their greed. That's all.

  10. Bridge trolls get what they deserve. by Sir+Holo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mr. West is being the proverbial "Troll Charging for a Bridge-crossing."

    The result is predictable. Macroeconomic forces are what they are. People will build another bridge, or simply find a way around the troll.

    All those pirates pirating sheet music for the 2nd oboe part of W. A. Mozart's Op. 233 are doing so because the author has been dead forever. But somehow, some music publisher has tied it up in Copyright, and refuses to print more copies. What else is a person to do?

    1. Re:Bridge trolls get what they deserve. by mrvan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

      That said, there would be value in a additional legislation to force copyright holders to "use it or lose it". If copyright is used to deliberately keep something from publication (e.g. Mein Kampf in Germany) or if a publisher owns the copyright, but doesn't see the business case in using it, I think that the law should either

      (1) revert the work to public domain after some time, and/or
      (2) allow for making copies as "fair use", or
      (3) apply some sort of RAND licensing on the work, so anyone can decide to publish (derivatives of) the work if they pay a reasonable fee, probably some percentage of last known retail value.

      (this should only apply to works that have been made public before, e.g. acquirable by the general public. As an author you should still have the right to keep something private)

      There is an analogy in the Dutch housing market history: until recently it was quasi-legal to squat a house if it had been empty for 1 year. So, a house owner has the exclusive right to use his or her house (by living in it or renting it out to whom s/he pleases), but if s/he just lets the building stand empty, the public used to gain a general right to take occupancy. The owner would then have to go to court and show that there are immediate plans to re-use the building, on which the court could decide to evict the squatters. As noted in the wiki:"Dutch squatting has its origins in the 1960s when the Netherlands was suffering a housing shortage while many properties stood empty" - empty houses were mainly bought for speculation, and rent was not considered enough to cover cost of maintenance and operation (a market failure). In a sense, although the house was private property, the total residential space in the city was seen as a public good. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting#Netherlands and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... )

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  12. Meh by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 4, Informative

    I hate it, but he's stretching the language and speaking to his audience... who are insiders who understand the references.

    Much of what we talk about casually is full of references. Given we're in tech, our references are pretty obscure too. We're all asked "why can't you just explain it to me?"

    These are just a different kind of obscure.

    The way I understood the lyrics was a bit more cynical:

    "Sipping a chardonnay with my compatriots, when an officer visits us and questions us for being so unfashionable. We express some concern over such criticism, but the young officer takes this the wrong way and we're challenged to a duel. Some of my friends, though gentlemen, really do enjoy the sport of dueling. The officer however, was not practicing good etiquette, and surprised upon his would-be challenger a grievous injury. It will never be clear to me how officers can be so immune from the rules of civilized culture. After that, we had unfortunately lost our composure and things became most unsporting."