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Rio Has Given Up On Clean Water For Olympics (go.com)

iONiUM writes: When bidding to host the 2016 Summer Olympics, Rio de Jaineiro promised the International Olympics Committee that it would eliminate 80 percent of the sewage found in the city's notoriously filthy water, and would fully regenerate the lagoon in which rowing and kayaking events will be held. Now a few months from the start of the games, Rio has given up on keeping those promises. According to an article from Deadspin, "The U.S. will send 48 rowers to Rio, and they will be as forewarned and forearmed as the federation can make them, starting with squeeze bottles of hand sanitizer that will be distributed on the flight to Brazil. Hannafin says the athletes have been asked to get hepatitis A vaccinations and polio boosters and take the oral typhoid vaccine. Their oar handles will be bleached and their boats washed inside and out after each training session or competition. Gear will be laundered at a high enough temperature to kill microbes."

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  1. Brazil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Kayaking in shit. Brazil. The land of the poor and stupid.

    1. Re:Brazil by JoeMerchant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No need to be stupid to have unsanitary runoff in the lagoon, just poor.

      If you're poor enough, you can't even leave.

    2. Re:Brazil by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Kayaking in shit. Brazil. The land of the poor and stupid.

      Poor, yes. Stupid, no. The got the Olympics. I'd say they outsmarted everyone.

      The stupidity is on the part of the IOC who actually thought that Brazil could achieve that monumental feat without any real change in the situation in Brazil.

    3. Re:Brazil by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "The stupidity is on the part of the IOC "

      No, they got their kickbacks I assure you. So the only people who lose are the athletes.

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    4. Re:Brazil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The athletes have a choice and get paid.

      The only people who lose are the people of Brazil, save the few already rich and powerful who will make money from it.

    5. Re:Brazil by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tourists will be staying away from this Olympics in droves, so it is virtually guaranteed to be the biggest money loser in Olympic history. I suspect a few athletes may decide not to show up as well, to protect their own health. If the IOC wasn't so corrupt, they'd move the Olympics to an emergency backup location, say one of the many cities that have hosted in the past and still have the facilities (e.g. Los Angeles).

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    6. Re:Brazil by laie_techie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Stupid, no. The got the Olympics

      Getting the Olympics is a winning proposition less than 50% of the time. It costs more to put on the olympics than the revenues from them. It only financially works if the facilities are used after the Olympics are over, which means that the facilities have to be built well enough to stand for decades, which means that they cost even more to build. There are lot more Sarajevos than there are Lake Placids.

      If you want to look at a money-making Olympics, look to the 2002 Salt Lake City Winter Olympics, which made 101 million dollars despite additional costs for security after 9/11.

    7. Re:Brazil by rahvin112 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ironically the only two locations in the US to host the Winter Olympics are part of the few places to have ever gotten a return on the games. Salt Lake Cities facilities are used by Team USA for training and are available to the public otherwise and make more than enough to pay for continued operation with enough return left over to pay the construction bonds where they were required.

      Though it seems it's easier to make money on the Winter Olympics than it is the summer Olympics as the last place to ever make money on the Summer Olympics was Los Angeles.

    8. Re:Brazil by nmb3000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So the only people who lose are the athletes.

      Don't forget the people of Brazil. Hosting the Olympics has pretty much become an open scam with only rich politicians, big construction companies, and the IOC profiting from it. Just look at Beijing and Sochi for more examples.

      Boston got smart after a lot of pushback against their hosting bid. I can only hope that the rest of the US continues that trend. If the US never hosts the Olympics again it would still be too soon.

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    9. Re:Brazil by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If the IOC wasn't corrupt, there should be one location for the Summer Olympics (it should be in Greece, where the ancient Olympics are held), and the Winter Olympics should be held in another location, one that is guaranteed to have snow. Throw a few hundred billion at each location; major airports, venues, hospitals, living facilities, and then it's just the cost of maintenance. No more shopping around for kickbacks for the winning society, and no more need for the IOC in its current form.

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    10. Re:Brazil by kelarius · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Anonymous Cowards, posting stupid and racist bullshit shit since 1997. Poor != stupid, and considering the challenges they likely faced in clearing all of the waste from their water, and since Brazil isn't really know for wealth, I'm not surprised they couldn't do it while spending the billions necessary to build up the rest of the facilities that will undoubtedly go to waste after the Olympics are over.

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    11. Re: Brazil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why should the athletes be supported? What special debt does society owe an athlete that they should get special treatment?

      The Olympics have long since jumped the shark and has become a terrible financial burden to the host city. Any politician that advocates for hosting the Olympics should be removed from office and government employees should be fired.

    12. Re:Brazil by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So they should have spent those billions on infrastructure instead of a money-losing cesspool like the olympics.

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  2. I wouldn't want to row by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not in those conditions, it sounds like there are going to be a lot of athletes that end up getting diseases from the water by just being in it. Imagine if one cuts or scrapes themself?

    1. Re:I wouldn't want to row by MitchDev · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would say I'm going to boycott the Olympics, but to be honest, I ignore them every time they're held...

    2. Re:I wouldn't want to row by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So I'm an athlete. I train hard for a decade or more. 10 hours a day. 6 days a week.

      I get one shot every 4 years. Depending on my sport, i may get just 2 shots, sometimes Im lucky enough to be in a sport that i may get 3, 4 shots at the Olympics.

      And you're saying that giving up one of my 2 shots in a lifetime is an easy choice, just snap my fingers. More important to give a middle finger and give up my dream and make that sacrifice almost useless.

      This is why athletes go. This is why team management lets the athletes go. Yeah, it's the IOC, but dealing with the IOC is a requirement to be in the Olympics. Necessary evil.

  3. IOC is Corrupt by MyLongNickName · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember listening to an interview on Mike & Mike (ESPN radio) where they talked to some official try to explain away all of the problems with the Rio water supply and how athletes got sick in a rowing event in the water. The Rio water was fine, she explained and any problems would be rectified. Her doublespeak was so thick that only a complete moron couldn't hear that she was a grade "A" liar.

    The reality is the water is so dirty that you might as well swim in raw sewage. Does the Olympic Committee care? Nope. They got their bribes and they are happy.

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    1. Re:IOC is Corrupt by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I remember listening to an interview on Mike & Mike (ESPN radio) where they talked to some official try to explain away all of the problems with the Rio water supply and how athletes got sick in a rowing event in the water. The Rio water was fine, she explained and any problems would be rectified. Her doublespeak was so thick that only a complete moron couldn't hear that she was a grade "A" liar.

      The reality is the water is so dirty that you might as well swim in raw sewage. Does the Olympic Committee care? Nope. They got their bribes and they are happy.

      One article I read said that Brazil actually plans to have boats patrolling during the events to pick up trash to try (emphasis on try) and make sure outcomes aren't affected. One bad time due to some trash could completely change who medals and could create some serious drama. Some competitors aren't even flying into Rio until right before their events to limit their exposure to the water and any potential health hazards. And have you seen pictures of the water? It pretty much is raw sewage. The people that accepted Rio's bid for the Olympics must have been hanging out with the same group that decided it would be a good idea to have the World Cup in the Middle East during the middle of summer.

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  4. If there was ever a reason to boycott the Olympics by michaelcole · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's because they'll give you ****ing Hepatitus! If I knew water rights and environmentalists, I would pass this along to make a big issue for the whole Olympics. Disgusting.

  5. Making a statement... by lionchild · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This might be the Olympic Year for countries, big and small, to make a statement to the IOC and the world. It's not just an issue for Rio, but other countries as well. And while it would suck for Olympic Athletes to skip this year, it would draw attention to an issue that even the US faces at home because of greed. Asking for clean drinking water isn't some special request that only the privileged should get, we need to consider it a human right.

    The Olympics will only be there for a year, the change that the Olympics can have might have a chance to linger way, way longer. So, just how much is a Gold Medal worth compared to generations of clean drinking water?

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  6. Re:News For Nerds? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I agree it's interesting,

    Well, there you have it! News for nerds means things nerds find interesintg. It doesn't mean nothing but kernel releases, cool hacks (we've not had nearly enough of these recently) and exploits.

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  7. Who made this decision? by slashmydots · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So Rio says they want to host the Olympics and says everything's fine and everyone just takes their word for it without one single water of pollution or air test? The same with China. Is the IOC that stupid or is this just a corrupt best bribe wins scenario?

    1. Re:Who made this decision? by superdave80 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Is the IOC that stupid or is this just a corrupt best bribe wins scenario?

      Yes.

  8. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And what? Go into the jungle or someone's yard to scavenge for food? The idea of being poor, is that they are just barely striking a balance or trying to, to stop from dying or generally becoming worse off.

    If they went walking like you stated, they'd likely end up with more than just muscle pains, considering how filthy the area seems to be.

  9. Re:News For Nerds? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    yaelk/Whipslash, I'm trying really hard not to complain here

    How difficult is it to not hit submit? How many of you are in there?

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  10. snope, I didn't hear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The parts that George Takai (aka Sulu) didn't read...

    The origin of the pesticide theory was, surprise surprise, a small physicians’ group that campaigns against pesticides. The group hasn’t done any epidemiology to demonstrate that people exposed to the pesticide are more likely to have babies with microcephaly; it has simply laid out an argument. The mainstream groups, looking at this problem holistically, have said there’s much better evidence that mosquitoes are hurting people than the evidence (and there’s no evidence, really) that the stuff killing mosquitoes is hurting people.

    ... and...

    All of this information is readily available to any genuine scientist looking dispassionately at the potential causes of the Zika virus outbreak or the rise in malformations in Brazil. Also readily available is the knowledge that the use of pyriproxifen is driven by WHO recommendations and not the marketing activity of any multinational or other corporation.

    The potential human health consequences of discouraging the use of pyriproxyfen in drinking water storage and other mosquito-reduction programs is catastrophic with potential deaths and serious disease from otherwise avoidable malaria, dengue and other mosquito-borne diseases numbered in at least the hundreds of thousands. If these reports and suggestions are motivated by anything other than ignorance and poor scholarship they are deserving of the most strident condemnation.

    Journalists covering this story would do well to research the background of those making and reporting the claims as the underlying story and potential public health consequences may be far more newsworthy than the current headlines.

    ... and ...

    * Neither Monsanto nor our products have any connection to the Zika virus or microcephaly.
    * Monsanto does not manufacture or sell Pyriproxyfen.
    * Monsanto does not own Sumitomo Chemical Company. However, Sumitomo Chemical Company is one of our business partners in the area of crop protection.
    * Glyphosate is not connected in any way to the Zika virus or microcephaly.
    * GMOs have no role in the Zika virus or microcephaly.

  11. Should of been Chicago! we have good water by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Should of been Chicago! we have good water and Less crime.

    Also good food and beer!!!

  12. Re:I live in Rio by fonos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm so going to get buried by mods who disagree rather than marked informative, but here goes.

    I moved to Rio 6 months ago from New Jersey. (Yeah, I know, NJ is the land where every puddle has its own rainbow.) I know 4 other people who moved here from the US within the last 2 years. Not one of us has gotten sick.

    How often do you swim in the rivers/lakes there, or do other water sports?

    Okay, I'll stop with the anecdotal evidence now. How about, this place is CLEANER than New York City. How many folks swim in the Hudson or the East River?.

    Nobody is trying to have an Olympic event in the Hudson or the East River.

    Stop playing telephone and ask someone who's been there - Rio is Fine; far cleaner than many other cities I've seen.

    Maybe so, but that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that the lakes/rivers are so polluted that you shouldn't be having athletic competitions in them.

  13. Re:I live in Rio by wickerprints · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All you have provided is individual anecdotes and irrelevant analogies.

    The only thing that matters is the actual level of contamination in the affected body of water, as measured by scientific instruments, and an objective risk analysis of pathogenicity based on those measurements. In plain English, your stories about people swimming and fruit dropping from trees means fuck all.

    The water was already tested many months ago, and the levels of harmful bacteria and viruses were deemed too high to be safe:

    http://espn.go.com/olympics/st...

    At that time, some people even suggested that athletes competing in these water events should arrive in Rio early, train in the contaminated environment, get sick with the local diseases, and hopefully build up immunity before the Olympics. That, in my view, is an insane proposition.

  14. Re:I live in Rio by Sir+Holo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...and I'll bet that more athletes will be compromised by the vaccines and the toxic chemicals in the hand "sanitizers" than would get sick from the water...

    OK. You almost made it. You were sounding plausible, up until the crack-pot sentence above.

    Vaccines—unhealthy—Really?

    "Toxic chemicals in the hand 'sanitizers'..."?!? Again—Really? Well, OK, the active ingredient in hand sanitizers is usually ethanol – booze. Yes, that's toxic, but is sold as a casual social lubricant just about everywhere on the planet – for humans' internal consumption. The active ingredient in a few others might be isopropanol – AKA 'rubbing alcohol'. It's more expensive, so less common in 'hand sanitizers', but is what your physician uses to clean the skin before giving you a shot.

    FTA: The PR flak's suggestion of hand-sanitizer use on athletes' way to the Olympic Games was quite comical.