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Telstra To Roll Out 1000Mbps 4G (lifehacker.com.au)

An anonymous reader writes: After beginning support for LTE Category 9 last year on their 4Gx network (with its theoretical max download speed of 450Mbps), Telstra has now announced that they will upgrade their network to support LTE category 16. In theory, this means that if a customer has the correct equipment in the correct location, they will be able to have a maximum theoretical download speed of 1000Mbps, and a maximum theoretical upload speed of 150Mbps. Of course, it's unlikely that customers will be able to sustain these speeds, but Telstra lists on their website that 4GX devices currently have a typical download speed of 2 to 75Mbps on 4GX.

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  1. 8 seconds by slashping · · Score: 3, Funny

    At that speed, it would only take 8 seconds to consume my entire monthly 1GB data plan.

    1. Re:8 seconds by slashping · · Score: 1

      Well, at least my current plan doesn't charge for exceeding the cap. It just reduces the speed to a crawl for the remainder of the month.

    2. Re:8 seconds by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Although I agree that these speeds are horribly disproportionate to current data rates from these carriers, I wanted to ask about this:

      Fail to pay attention for a few minutes and run up a bill of thousands of dollars.

      How does that actually happen with a smart phone? I mean it's not like you're going to download ISOs to your phone and even though Netflix is a data hog, you're still capped at the speed it takes to watch the video in real time. Honestly I'm not even sure how I'd make my phone eat up 10 gigs on purpose, let alone by accident.

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    3. Re:8 seconds by macklin01 · · Score: 3, Informative

      How does that actually happen with a smart phone? I mean it's not like you're going to download ISOs to your phone and ...

      Mobile hotspot.
      For when you don't want to pay the outrageous wifi charges at a hotel conference center, or Starbucks' connection is flaky, or Charter / Comcast / Timewarner crashes for the evening and you have work to do, or ... etc.

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    4. Re:8 seconds by mjwx · · Score: 1

      At that speed, it would only take 8 seconds to consume my entire monthly 1GB data plan.

      A good thing Smellstra's $30 prepaid plan now gives you 2.6 GB of data, so you've got a full 20.8 seconds.

      I'm a happy Telstra customer... at least for the next few days. They already have the best LTE network in Perth, The work elevator is the only place I dont get coverage.

      However with mobile speeds, you never get the full speed, it might be 1000 Mbps when you're 2 CM from the transmitter, but 1.5 KM away and you're getting a lot less.

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    5. Re:8 seconds by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      If you're worried about how fast you'll hit the cap, then perhaps you should switch [...]

      I don't think you realise how absurdly small the typical Australian data cap is, especially relative to the speed.

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    6. Re: 8 seconds by slashping · · Score: 1

      No, I don't have Telstra. I was just comparing the new speeds with my current plan.

    7. Re:8 seconds by slashping · · Score: 1

      A mobile hotspot + attached Windows laptop downloading OS updates is a great way to waste a bunch of data unnoticed.

  2. So hit your 8GB cap in less then a hour? with $10/ by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    So hit your 8GB cap in less then a hour and with $10/GB overage how high can it go before the auto turn off kicks in $10,000?

  3. 1000 Mbps? by msauve · · Score: 1

    So that would be what, 1 Gbps?

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    1. Re:1000 Mbps? by zlives · · Score: 2

      slightly less than 1Gbps

    2. Re:1000 Mbps? by slashping · · Score: 1

      No, exactly 1Gbps.

    3. Re:1000 Mbps? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      Nope. Network speeds are power of 10.

    4. Re:1000 Mbps? by msauve · · Score: 1

      Closer to 0.001 Tbps.

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    5. Re:1000 Mbps? by Sax+Russell+5449D29A · · Score: 1

      1000 is more than 1. 1Gbps is not sexy any more.

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    6. Re:1000 Mbps? by msauve · · Score: 1

      My network goes to 11.

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    7. Re:1000 Mbps? by Sax+Russell+5449D29A · · Score: 1

      News at 11: that's nothing. My Internets can handle 1.64 LoC/s. Or in other words 5,02633887×10^13 tweets/s.

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  4. Poor form by Smiddi · · Score: 2

    Meanwhile, Telstra landline (ADSL) speeds are often around 2Mbps and are charged at about $100/month for 500Gb (again at 2Mbps).

    1. Re:Poor form by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      It's cheaper to run data over cellphone then over landline (for the carrier) because wire and right of ways are expensive while radio waves just use electricity. The massive price inversion is called profit margin.

    2. Re: Poor form by kaiser423 · · Score: 2

      Other than the cost of billions of dollars of to amortize....

    3. Re:Poor form by Namarrgon · · Score: 1

      5G is already being tested at 100gbps

      Over lab distances of centimetres, with no interference or contention for spectrum. Things are a little different in the real world.

      The only way anyone has managed to get 1Gbps rates outside the lab is by devoting huge chunks of spectrum to the link, and/or using line-of-sight frequencies that can barely penetrate paper (same as inside the lab). But these limitations make gigabit wireless unsuitable even for a few dozen mobile users in a typical cluttered cell footprint, let alone a couple hundred Netflix-streaming houses as well. And while beam-forming can help to reduce spectrum contention, it doesn't scale well - antennas get a lot more expensive and computation-heavy as you add simultaneous users, and it's much harder for mobile devices to do similar beam-forming for uploads. Your hope that prices will drop by an order of magnitude sounds like pure wishful thinking to me, even if 5G is rolled out by 2022. It's not so simple to hand-wave away the fundamental restrictions of wireless.

      By contrast, fibre landlines are capable of terabits per second (theoretically a lot more) - to each and every user. Zero contention, zero interference, with a host of other advantages. And once the fibre is laid, we can keep boosting speeds for decades by just upgrading the modems at each end.

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  5. Re:Hwat the hell is the use of that speed.... by blackpaw · · Score: 1

    Well Optus have a 50GB plan but its speed capped to 12 Mbps.

  6. Re:2 to 75 Mbps? by EEPROMS · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The last time Telstra introduced a new service ie 4G they lowered the average monthly data cap for anyone using the service. So going by past marketing from Telstra the new services average monthly data cap will be about 500mb. I'm not kidding, Australia is the only country with monthly data caps on mobiles going down with each new service not up. Right now if you have a 4G data service you are getting monthly caps that were the norm on 3G in 2007.

  7. Re:2 to 75 Mbps? by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

    Really? My Telstra data keeps going up. Last contract it was 3gb a month, this contract at exactly the same $ is now 6gb and if you sign up today with a BYO phone you get 10gb for $60 a month with unlimited calls and texts..

  8. Re:2 to 75 Mbps? by currently_awake · · Score: 1

    They speed up the last mile of the network, but leave the rest with whatever is already installed. It means they can sell super speed internet that actually only delivers 2 Mb/s speeds on average. If you are trying to maximize net quarters results and don't care about the long term this is the smart move. If you are a shareholder you'd want to fire the board of directors at the company, as this prevents the company from selling more bandwidth and reduces customer satisfaction.

  9. Re:2 to 75 Mbps? by EEPROMS · · Score: 2

    Yes but when the new service comes on line they will offer less data than before then slowly increase it to keep you sucked into their service. The Checkout in 2013 (Australian consumer show) highlighted this when they looked at the new 4G data plans when they first came out noting the data caps were lower than with 2007's 3G plans. I was in the USA recently and one of my associates had over 50Gb a month of data for the same price of a mid range 3Gb plan in Australia. Australian data plan caps are total rubbish and we are getting royally ripped off.

  10. Re:So hit your 8GB cap in less then a hour? with $ by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    I don't know how there system is set up.

  11. Can't wait for the next "free data" day then... by throx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So the other Sunday when they had "Free Data", customers managed to download around 2000TB of data over the mobile network. Cranking the speed up some more should enable an even more impressive effort in internet binge downloading!

    Refer: https://exchange.telstra.com.au/2016/02/15/big-day-of-free-data/

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  12. What G? by genka · · Score: 2

    So they do 4G at 1G. Will it be a total of 5G?

  13. Re:2 to 75 Mbps? by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

    There is no doubt that they are expensive compared to the US. But the US mobile system is fucked with black holes all over the place and providers working on completely incompatible networks. Telstra might be expensive, but at least you have good coverage where ever there are people.

  14. Re:2 to 75 Mbps? by EEPROMS · · Score: 1

    still have plenty of black holes just not around urban areas.

  15. If there would just be a convenient unit... by YoungManKlaus · · Score: 1

    to express 1000 Mbps .... oh wait!