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Drinking More Coffee May Undo Liver Damage From Booze (usatoday.com)
schwit1 writes: Drinking more coffee might help reduce the kind of liver damage that's associated with overindulging in food and alcohol, a review of existing studies suggests. Researchers analyzed data from nine previously published studies with a total of more than 430,000 participants and found that drinking two additional cups of coffee a day was linked to a 44% lower risk of developing liver cirrhosis.
Jokes aside, this will probably lead more people to drink coffee and alcohol at the same time since they think they'll stay awake longer and be able to drink more. This is a bad idea actually since having a stimulant and a depressant can lead to heart attacks (in severe cases) or capillary damage (in less severe cases).
And have been tweaked out on coffee ever since. It's good to know I am fine.
Irish Coffee, anyone?
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Coffee makes you pee a lot. This helps flush out the liver and kidneys. I am not a Doctor, but I use Twitter, can't you tell?
And a hell of lot more booze.
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Please define a cup of coffee. A cup of coffee to me is 12-16 oz. To Mr. Coffee it's something crazylow like 6 oz. Nobody seems to use an actual cup (8 oz).
If you need caffeine to function normally, you have a problem. Looking for excuses to consume more is a poor excuse for taking action about over-consumption of booze or food. Only ad addict would take this as the solution.
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Props to all the folks out there who can actually drink two cups of coffee a day, but I can't even tolerate one. As for decaf? Nope, I get the coffee shits. And it's not because of the caffeine, because I can have an energy drink without feeling like I'm pooping out my bloody entrails.
But it's all rather academic anyway, since I don't drink alcohol either. I'm the life of the party, I know.
After all the studies that suggest every single thing I enjoy is bad for me, here's one for the plus column.
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>"found that drinking two additional cups of coffee a day was linked to a 44% lower risk of developing liver cirrhosis."
Correlation is not causality. And yet people fall for this type of stuff all the time. Wake me up when they produce an actual, double-blind and verified study.
Coffee at work, and booze at home.
Why is it the bitter ones that always live forever?
I've met some cranky old farts I'd swear were fuled by booze, kept their heart beating with black coffee, glued together by cigarette tar, and given the will to live by the sheer resentment they have for their fellow man.
you're more than fine. you'll have a super liver.
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Best news I've heard all year.
This just goes to show you that you need a well balanced amount of overindulgence.
Drink alcohol to get buzz.
The health benefits of coffee have been well documented, aside from drinking more water, it has strong anti-oxidation benefits and has a positive (albeit limited) effect on how the liver processes cholesterol and fatty acids. This is of course assuming you get the right kind of coffee and avoid loading it down with carbohydrate calories and avoid stale coffee with mold in it (which is quite commonly the cause of a lot of the negative effects of coffee, the shits and the jitters, when you factor out excessive caffeine)
Another study that was left out was an extensive one that debunked the "Coffee dehydrates you" myth. 100% of the participants that consumed more than 4 cups of coffee per day we more well hydrated than those who didn't. This makes sense to anyone who makes sure they get enough water per day for their conditioning, The general recommendation of 8 , 8 ounce glasses per day is about half what the majority of the population needs and it varies based on blood sugar condition, exercise and how your body handles fats (IE how many carbs you consume per day is the deciding factor there.) Doubling your water intake as an experiment is interesting. You feel better, you lose more body fat with less exercise and yes you do pee a lot.. many make the mistake of saying that if you are peeing more that you are over consuming water.. but you should be peeing like that otherwise you are dehydrated. Walking around in a dehydrated state is MORE unhealthy than any of the bad things cited in the studies. (Hint, Alcohol consumption to excess dehydrates you.. no surprise there.)
"found that drinking two additional cups of coffee a day was linked to a 44% lower risk of developing liver cirrhosis."
I don't know if I could drink two additional cups, my limit is the 8 I already drink.
I agrree
Over the last 30 years or so I keep seeing studies on coffee that are all over the map.
One says it's good, another bad, another good, another bad, etc.
In general it seems to roughly average out: coffee screws up half your organs but helps the other half.
It's thus roughly neutral, health-wise. I take it to stay awake through boring tasks, not for health.
By the way, if you are susceptible to kidney stones, drink a lot of water with coffee.
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I do cardio 4 times per week for 45-75 min (eliptical/bike) in winter and (trails/stairs) around my house in summer/not raining/cold. I got plenty of energy but I like to feel more so I drink a few cups of coffee or small energy drink. Mind you I can get the same energy drink effect with either just tourine or + coffee.
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I can just imagine reading a paper concluding the above, with a footnote reading 'this research was part sponsored by Kenco and Carlsberg'...
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Well I guess the article clarifies that coffee in moderation has some positive effects, (I know I started drinking it again after reading some articles, but I'm a 2 day, black only guy, fuck the extra calories from sugar and milk)
That being said, I mean if you actually give 2 shits about your liver, you'd be far better off switching to a diet low in carbs / packaged food and seriously increase your vegetable and fibre intake. In my case my GammaGT was 167 (it's meant to be 51) so I did some reading, ate a lot of veggies, consumed a lot of beetroot (in smoothies with spinach, lemon, kale, etc blah) and within 6 months my liver was ridiculously healthy. I took it from fatty liver (external only luckily) to pretty healthy.
Basically, if the food you're eating comes from a packet you're probably not helping (with some exceptions) as for the coffee, perhaps it'll help, even more? In moderation I'm sure.
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Caffeine of course it's everywhere but not any coffee, just don't care for it.
But what if this means that people who drink heavily who suddenly replace their breakfast fifth of whiskey with a pot of coffee allow their livers to actually have two alcohol-free minutes to function and repair? And people who also replace their liquid lunch with another pot of coffee are affording even more time for the liver to repair?
I don't think this paper has validated coffee as a magical elixir that repairs your liver, boosts your Strength attribute to 5 and Vitality to 4, and gives you Alcohol Immunity. Some mechanisms are posited but it's a meta-analysis of correlated data, no validation of mechanism. It may just be that someone who can manage to drink anything other than alcohol for part of the day improves liver function vs. when they were boozing all the time.
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Ok, and what will you do with your healthy liver now?
I finally quit drinking since it was causing anxiety (and drinking a pint a night of vodka or whiskey for several years can't be healthy).
But coffee also causes me anxiety but I still have 2 a day, guess I should up that to 4 and hope I don't have more panic attacks.
Title: Drinking More Coffee May ***UNDO*** Liver Damage From Booze
Text: [...] cups of coffee a day was linked to a 44% ***LOWER RISK*** of developing liver cirrhosis.
And, of course, ignoring that liver cells do not fix by themselves (that's why cirrhosis and liver transplants exist in the first place).
Follow the grant money, all the way to Starbucks!
"Researchers analyzed data from nine previously published studies with a total of more than 430,000 participants and found that drinking two additional cups of coffee a day was linked to a 44% lower risk of developing liver cirrhosis."
Were the people who were drinking that extra two cuppas drinking less booze as well?
Causation, correlation, etc., etc...
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Ok, and what will you do with your healthy liver now?
Pickle it for posterity.
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So does drinking in moderation. Google 'alcohol j-graph'.
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publ... for example. Graph at http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publ...
Moderate drinkers are less likely to suffer from an early death or various diseases, and it's not until you get to around 80g/ day of ethanol (8 UK alcohol units, 4.6 US alcohol units) that you are back to the same risk level of a tee-totaller.
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It seems like everything that comes out now is just a "review of existing studies." Didn't science used to involve actual experiments and tests?
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I get healthier every day by looking for studies that confirm habits I already have. I haven't changed anything I do in a while, but with every article I find I get scientifically more healthy.
Beer (moderation) = good CHECK
Coffee = good CHECK
Video games != violent CHECK
Now I'm looking for ... anybody?
Bacon = good
I guess that's why all AA meetings serve coffee
As a grad student, I guess my liver is safe!
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Interesting moderation on this post, curious who is having a whinge and why.