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Drinking More Coffee May Undo Liver Damage From Booze (usatoday.com)
schwit1 writes: Drinking more coffee might help reduce the kind of liver damage that's associated with overindulging in food and alcohol, a review of existing studies suggests. Researchers analyzed data from nine previously published studies with a total of more than 430,000 participants and found that drinking two additional cups of coffee a day was linked to a 44% lower risk of developing liver cirrhosis.
Jokes aside, this will probably lead more people to drink coffee and alcohol at the same time since they think they'll stay awake longer and be able to drink more. This is a bad idea actually since having a stimulant and a depressant can lead to heart attacks (in severe cases) or capillary damage (in less severe cases).
Irish Coffee, anyone?
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Coffee makes you pee a lot. This helps flush out the liver and kidneys. I am not a Doctor, but I use Twitter, can't you tell?
all of /. and half of fark with my morning intake. I can probably knock out the rest of fark this afternoon if there's something good on TV.
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If you need caffeine to function normally, you have a problem. Looking for excuses to consume more is a poor excuse for taking action about over-consumption of booze or food. Only ad addict would take this as the solution.
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Props to all the folks out there who can actually drink two cups of coffee a day, but I can't even tolerate one. As for decaf? Nope, I get the coffee shits. And it's not because of the caffeine, because I can have an energy drink without feeling like I'm pooping out my bloody entrails.
But it's all rather academic anyway, since I don't drink alcohol either. I'm the life of the party, I know.
After all the studies that suggest every single thing I enjoy is bad for me, here's one for the plus column.
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Coffee at work, and booze at home.
Why is it the bitter ones that always live forever?
I've met some cranky old farts I'd swear were fuled by booze, kept their heart beating with black coffee, glued together by cigarette tar, and given the will to live by the sheer resentment they have for their fellow man.
you're more than fine. you'll have a super liver.
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Best news I've heard all year.
This just goes to show you that you need a well balanced amount of overindulgence.
"found that drinking two additional cups of coffee a day was linked to a 44% lower risk of developing liver cirrhosis."
I don't know if I could drink two additional cups, my limit is the 8 I already drink.
Over the last 30 years or so I keep seeing studies on coffee that are all over the map.
One says it's good, another bad, another good, another bad, etc.
In general it seems to roughly average out: coffee screws up half your organs but helps the other half.
It's thus roughly neutral, health-wise. I take it to stay awake through boring tasks, not for health.
By the way, if you are susceptible to kidney stones, drink a lot of water with coffee.
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I do cardio 4 times per week for 45-75 min (eliptical/bike) in winter and (trails/stairs) around my house in summer/not raining/cold. I got plenty of energy but I like to feel more so I drink a few cups of coffee or small energy drink. Mind you I can get the same energy drink effect with either just tourine or + coffee.
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Are you suggesting that maybe having a lower risk of developing cirrhosis somehow causes someone to drink more coffee? Or that there's an underlying mechanism that causes someone to drink more coffee while lowering the risk of developing cirrhosis? What form would such a mechanism take?
Correlation does not imply causation, but it does waggle it's eyebrows suggestively in the direction of causation while feigning a cough.
A shot of real coffee is 2 oz. A cup of that is at least 2-3 shots.
Very hard to do since people stick a lot of stuff in their mouths. About the only thing to do is stack up a lot of data until the noise from other variables has less of an effect.
I can just imagine reading a paper concluding the above, with a footnote reading 'this research was part sponsored by Kenco and Carlsberg'...
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Well I guess the article clarifies that coffee in moderation has some positive effects, (I know I started drinking it again after reading some articles, but I'm a 2 day, black only guy, fuck the extra calories from sugar and milk)
That being said, I mean if you actually give 2 shits about your liver, you'd be far better off switching to a diet low in carbs / packaged food and seriously increase your vegetable and fibre intake. In my case my GammaGT was 167 (it's meant to be 51) so I did some reading, ate a lot of veggies, consumed a lot of beetroot (in smoothies with spinach, lemon, kale, etc blah) and within 6 months my liver was ridiculously healthy. I took it from fatty liver (external only luckily) to pretty healthy.
Basically, if the food you're eating comes from a packet you're probably not helping (with some exceptions) as for the coffee, perhaps it'll help, even more? In moderation I'm sure.
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I recently had an extensive blood test to see just what I did have and where it was.
Hepatitis A and B but just traces of the target, they were all but gone.
Caffeine of course it's everywhere but not any coffee, just don't care for it.
But what if this means that people who drink heavily who suddenly replace their breakfast fifth of whiskey with a pot of coffee allow their livers to actually have two alcohol-free minutes to function and repair? And people who also replace their liquid lunch with another pot of coffee are affording even more time for the liver to repair?
I don't think this paper has validated coffee as a magical elixir that repairs your liver, boosts your Strength attribute to 5 and Vitality to 4, and gives you Alcohol Immunity. Some mechanisms are posited but it's a meta-analysis of correlated data, no validation of mechanism. It may just be that someone who can manage to drink anything other than alcohol for part of the day improves liver function vs. when they were boozing all the time.
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I forsee a lot of alert drunks in the future.
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Follow the grant money, all the way to Starbucks!
"Researchers analyzed data from nine previously published studies with a total of more than 430,000 participants and found that drinking two additional cups of coffee a day was linked to a 44% lower risk of developing liver cirrhosis."
Were the people who were drinking that extra two cuppas drinking less booze as well?
Causation, correlation, etc., etc...
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Ok, and what will you do with your healthy liver now?
Pickle it for posterity.
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So does drinking in moderation. Google 'alcohol j-graph'.
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publ... for example. Graph at http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publ...
Moderate drinkers are less likely to suffer from an early death or various diseases, and it's not until you get to around 80g/ day of ethanol (8 UK alcohol units, 4.6 US alcohol units) that you are back to the same risk level of a tee-totaller.
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It seems like everything that comes out now is just a "review of existing studies." Didn't science used to involve actual experiments and tests?
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
Correlation absolutely implies causation. It just doesn't tell you what direction it's in or whether there's a third party involved.
I get healthier every day by looking for studies that confirm habits I already have. I haven't changed anything I do in a while, but with every article I find I get scientifically more healthy.
Beer (moderation) = good CHECK
Coffee = good CHECK
Video games != violent CHECK
Now I'm looking for ... anybody?
Bacon = good
I guess that's why all AA meetings serve coffee
As a grad student, I guess my liver is safe!
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Correlation is not causality. And yet people fall for this type of stuff all the time. Wake me up when they produce an actual, double-blind and verified study.
While that's true, it'd take a lot of money and time to set up a real blind study (can't really do a double-blind study when the participants are either drinking coffee or not). If you have sufficient data from the other studies, you can control reasonably well for other effects. It's not as good as a prospective blinded study, but it's not nothing either. Practically speaking, this is about as good as it gets without some sort of totalitarian dictatorship enforcing clinical trial participation.
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Interesting moderation on this post, curious who is having a whinge and why.