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ISIS Makes Direct Threats Against Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey (cnet.com)

wjcofkc writes: A group of ISIS supporters have threatened to take down Facebook and Twitter, as well as their leaders. In a 25-minute propaganda video released by a group calling itself "the sons of the Caliphate army," photographs of both technology leaders are riddled with bullets. The video was first spotted by Vocativ. The threats are being made over the two companies' efforts to seek out and remove terrorist-related content on their respective platforms. The group is quoted as saying, "If you close one account, we will take 10 in return and soon your names will be erased after we delete your sites, Allah willing, and will know that we say is true."

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  1. They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A world without Facebook? Whatever would we do?

    1. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Noah+Haders · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it's like, "if you dare to interfere with our propaganda, we'll retaliate by shutting down the service on which we distribute our propaganda!" Seems poorly thought out.

    2. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by wjcofkc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I know that was tongue in cheek, but still:

      Thought independent outside of obsessing over "likes" and "friends".

      No more walking off cliffs because your posting to Facebook. (this of course excludes general texting)

      Living socially normal lives.

      No more armies of people baffled that I among others are not on Facebook.

      A vast reduction in narcissistic selfies.

      (maybe) an increase in general civility as people would be forced to have face-to-face conversations within close physical proximity.

      A steady increase in gray matter across a few billion people.

      The avoidance of entire generations of kids that are socially inept and who knows what else developmental oddities because, well, facebook.

      I could go on but that's a lot of typing. Maybe someone else take over?

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    3. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Considering that they believe in a magical sky fairy and that their actions are destined to bring about an apocalypse, I don't think critical reasoning is one of their strong suits.

    4. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What would you call it?

      Personally, I think people beyond the age of 8 that have an imaginary friend are kinda weird, to say the least.

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    5. Re: They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ..possibly Sikhs, Zorastrians, Mandeans, Hindus, and Buddhists.

      This is from personal experiences, working in a British University for over 10 years, 60-80% foreign students, so make of it what you will. Bear in mind, I had to be aware of any undercurrents going on as the last thing I needed was to deal with an outbreak of violence in the Labs, unfortunately, these happened. And, bear in mind, I was dealing with Engineering/Computing/Science students here.

      Regarding Muslims and their attitudes to 'The People of the Book(the extended edition)'

      Sikhs: nope..friction between Sikhism and Islam has rumbled along merrily for centuries (one Muslim student described Sikhism to me as a 'piss take of Islam', general consensus of the Sikhs I knew was 'the only good Muslim was a dead one'..)

      Hindus: not.a.bloody.chance. There was a general disdain of Hindu students by the Muslim students, this became outright open hostility towards Hindus on occasion by Pakistani and Central-North African Muslims (I had to break up fights).

      Zorastrians: Tricky one this, I knew several Zorastrians, but they kept themselves to themselves, so cannot comment on their interactions with the Muslim students (other than to point out again that they made themselves inconspicuous)

      Buddhists: See, the funny thing about not believing in any God as far as Islam is concerned is...The Muslim attitude I experienced ranged from total indifference from the liberals through to they're Kafir, kill with fire from the usual nutters.

      Mandeans: never met any, that I know of (see remark above regarding Zorastrians and being inconspicuous)

      I know there's some stuff out there about 'People of the Book' covering the above groups, but talking to Muslims over the years, even ones who could be described as liberal (e.g. taking Khayyam at his word when he said '..It is better to flourish in the street of the tavern than to wither in the mosque.'), they say it only covers Christians and Jews (the more militant ones would drop the Jews from the list if they dared..but that would eventually open up a large can of worms regarding the origins of Islam, so best left alone..at present).

      Disclaimer: Atheist, but maintain a passing interest (in the spirit of know thy enemy) in religions and their funny ways..

    6. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by sabbede · · Score: 4, Informative

      Which is just the Arabic word for the one God worshipped by all three Abrahamic religions. The two words are semantically equivalent, only the language is different. Yahweh = Adonai = Deus = Dio = God = Got = Allah = Concept.Demiurge

    7. Re:They'd probably be doing us a favor. by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not where I live. Actually, a politician who even ponders thinking about mentioning something akin to resembling Creationism as a "valid theory" and something that should be taught in school would very certainly perform political suicide.

      We don't elect lunatics. At least not of the religious kind.

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  2. The Pen vs the Sword ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Those who think the Pen is mightier than the Sword are about to learn the unpoetic truth that a person with only a pen needs to have some really good friends with swords.

    1. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by Desprez · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the point is that the person with the pen is able to garner more support from friends and allies, and thus more swords.

    2. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Those who think the Pen is mightier than the Sword are about to learn the unpoetic truth that a person with only a pen needs to have some really good friends with swords.

      The phrase means that in the course of history that ideas are a more powerful force for change than weapons.

      Ghandi's "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." means the same thing.

      The person with a "pen" may die. But his ideas may ultimately change the world, despite the attempt by those with "swords" to prevent it.

    3. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by fnj · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Ghandi's "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

      Gandhi's struggle would have turned out very, very differently had he been dealing with Hitler or Stalin or Mao instead of the British Empire. His methods only work against an adversary who has at least SOME heart or nobility you can leverage and exploit.

    4. Re:The Pen vs the Sword ... by wwalker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Heart of mobility my ass. Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: âoeI hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits."
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  3. New Facebook emojis by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just in time for the Zuck to respond with *angry face*.

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  4. 25-minute propaganda video by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Funny

    >> 25-minute propaganda video

    Anyone seen SlashDot's video editor lately? A 25-minute rambling screed sounds like the kind of thing that's typically posted here.

    1. Re:25-minute propaganda video by whipslash · · Score: 5, Informative

      We discontinued videos due to popular demand

    2. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why would you do that? If Facebook or Twitter or even Microsoft these days have taught me anything, it's that if users don't like a feature, you DOUBLE THE FUCK DOWN ON IT! Make it impossible to ignore! Make it pop up how great it is every single time a user logs in! "Accidentally" reset the user defaults back to reenable it!

      What's this "listening to users" thing? That's, like, web 1.0 thinking.

    3. Re:25-minute propaganda video by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude, stop messing with the order of things. Our job is to complain about stuff and your job is to ignore it. Now you come in and give us what we want.

      Care to tell us what we should complain about now? YOU TOOK UUUR JUUUUB!

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    4. Re:25-minute propaganda video by whipslash · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They weren't free so there is cost savings. We just didn't think any ad revenue gained by them was worth hurting the /. user experience. We removed the Jobs section too that DICE had created.

    5. Re:25-minute propaganda video by whipslash · · Score: 5, Funny

      Haha well I guess you could complain about lack of https and unicode support for at least another week or three

    6. Re:25-minute propaganda video by whipslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What I meant was https will be first, then unicode support

  5. Did they say which accounts? by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It would make sense if they were to kindly list the accounts they want to stay open. Otherwise how is Facebook supposed to know which is an Isis supporting page and which is a Ted Cruz supporting page.

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  6. big talkers by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll believe it when it happens. I think it is just a bogus attempt by ISIS to try to win American's favor.

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  7. The important thing to remember about ISIS by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is that they're very, very media savvy. They understand the value of PR, and are not above saying things they don't have any real plans to do just for the publicity effect. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'd be happy to lop off a few CEO heads (especially the Jew), but I'm guessing their primary aim is to keep us talking about them.

    And you know, we do have to talk about them, because that's the way our society operates and they know it. But we don't necessarily have to give their chest-thumping any credence. I think that's the primary thing they want; if we treat them as powerful then they will gain credibility and that will attract adherents. So let's review; the guys they're threatening are famous, high profile billionaires. They're already attractive targets for domestic terrorists and criminals; they're not soft targets for any screwball ISIS might inspire to martyrdom.

    ISIS also can get other things from from making largely empty threats. They can get whip up American anti-Muslim sentiment, which serves ISIS's purposes very well. The droves of Muslims eager to get away from ISIS's control undermines the legitimacy ISIS's claim to having established a new caliphate, so they are very quick to publicize the fact that anyone trying to leave is going to get kicked by Hungarian cameramen.

    If you don't want to be an unwitting ISIS stooge, take a deep breath and put them in perspective. Sure, they're a bunch of dangerous fanatics, but they're 6000 miles away. And yes, they're bound to have a few homicidal crackpot adherents here in the USA, but those crackpots are just a drop in our big bucket of homegrown homicidal crackpots, and we hardly give our native nutcases any attention at all. We're already taking our homegrown fanatics and mass killers in stride, so it's just a marginal effort to worry about ISIS.

    That's ISIS in a nutshell for us: they're a marginal concern. Not to say ISIS doesn't have a place on the list of the things we need to be concerned with, but it hardly deserves to be the center of our foreign policy, much less the center of our national policy.

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  8. Terrorist organization going after a billionaire by spiritplumber · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know, if you put Robert Downey on it, it'd make for a good movie.

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  9. Allah willing by SylvesterTheCat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "If you close one account, we will take 10 in return and soon your names will be erased after we delete your sites, Allah willing, and will know that we say is true."

    But, what if Allah doesn't will it?

    1. Re:Allah willing by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      what if Allah doesn't will it?

      Click to Unfriend him.