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Did Twitter Exec Censor #WhichHillary In Advance of Sunday Fundraiser, Key Primary? (dailykos.com)
An anonymous reader writes with the key claim of a story at The Daily Kos: In a truly egregious move yesterday, Twitter suspended the account responsible for #WhichHillary, activist @GuerrillaDems. Twitter also removed #WhichHillary from trending status, which is odd, considering the hashtag received more than 450,000 tweets in less than 24 hours. Twitter now says the suspension of @GuerillaDems was a mistake. Although this may just be a coincidence, it isn't the first time Twitter has exerted political control. Many users think it is a demonstrable conflict of interest, in light of Twitter Executive Chairman Omid Kordestani's Sunday, 2/28 fundraiser with Clinton.
The Daily Kos itself offers at least a perfunctory caution that it's unclear "whether it was intentional removal, or algorithmic coincidence."
Twitter also scrubbed #JeSiusMilo when they unverified Milo Yiannopoulos from Breitbart.
The Daily Kos itself offers at least a perfunctory caution that it's unclear "whether it was intentional removal, or algorithmic coincidence."
When ever did a twitter algorithm, remove a trending topic that was not hate speech?
This was almost certainly intentional. The only real question is was it paid for by Hillary or a staffer. We will likely never know.
Silence is a state of mime.
The Democratic Party, being the party of the devil, shows that the deletion was intentional.
If you're going to be worried every time the republicans don't make sense, you're going to be worried every day for the rest of your life.
In both GOP (like the fake attack on Trump by Cruz/Rubio) and the Democratic Party (by Clinton surrogates).
It won't work.
It is/was intentional.
America hates the Beltway Elites and their non-functional Congress.
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Compassion is a rare commodity these days.
Didn't Citizen's United make it legal for a corporation to support a political candidate in any way they choose?
Twitter can refuse to provide service for the opposition (delete every post) if it choose to do so, and there ain't shit any one can do about it.
I bet that when your heart crossed that cliff, you thought that maybe u could change her, but u can't change her kind.
Seems like they "fixed" part of the mistake, @guerrilladems is working again. But per hashtags.org #whichhillary is no longer on the list. I don't actually use Twitter, so I have no idea if there is an actual "trending" page or if it's all just inside the platform itself.
Why the fuck does any of this matter?
The only people who give a damn about Twitter are activists and spammers, and to hell with what any of them think.
There are much more important things to talk about here at Slashdot, like the fucking idiotic problems with the Rust programming language.
A: Okay, Twitter is going to be a beacon of free speech. We're not going to censor it in any way, and we're going to fight anyone who attempts to like hell.
B: Great! I agree. This is going to be a great site!
A: Uh, okay, people are pretending to be other people for purposes of satire. We should probably add some sort of verification so that people can know tell the real person's account from the joke ones.
B: Makes sense.
A: Right, now let's just shut down those joke accounts, to minimize confusion.
B: Uh... wait.
A: And a bunch of people are being mean to other people. We'll just shut that down as well.
B: But--but--
A: Now, that may be unpopular, so we'd better organize a committee made up entirely of people on a single side of the political spectrum to decide who gets to speak and who doesn't.
B: Now just hold on a min--
A: Oh, and according to our committee, all the people on the other side of the political spectrum are the ones being mean. We'll just ban them outright.
B: [censored]
A: Actually, why don't we just start censoring things all the time for no reason, with no real justification or even a discernible pattern.
Twitter was already galloping towards MySpace-style irrelevance anyway. This only accelerates it on it's path. Nothing posted to Twitter matters; when was the last time YOU actually read ANYTHING directly from Twitter?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Yes.
Nice throw to miniluv
to ask for forgiveness than to get approval.
All these "coincidences" surrounding Hill's campaign?
Introspection is truly dead.
Twitter - the communication medium of the idiocracy.
Should we tweet this, or will it be magically deleted?
after copying it from that smack-shooting comic.
Don't you even understand that the site pointed out the two faced nature of the bitch? The Republicans would not be the one to try to silence anyone over this. Only the Which herself or #WarlockBubba would do that. Now that it has been explained to you, do you still consider it a violation of the First Amendment and a dirty trick, or has it somehow now become a virtuous act?
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
But those republicans aren't smart enough to understand that so the assume intolerance is intolerance.
When Obama did his "twitter town halls" type shit, and legitimized their startup from the highest office in the USA, you didn't think there'd be a quid pro quo?
Of course they are balls deep in other. The fix is in and Hillary has been chosen as the next president. Get over it.
Whereas Democrats don't even count you as part of "the people" unless you belong to certain social justice groups. You just aren't a person if you don't think the way they want, or if you're a white male. Which means that under their terminology hating Republicans isn't hating "the people."
Well close to it,...........
They continue to censor hashtags in the name of "anti-harassment" the /extreme/* SJW's continue to dox people, harass them, incite having people be fired. Fools like WilW promote his shared blocklist which censors 11,000 people (As someone who got on that list for a single, very harmless tweet, I assure you, his list is ridiculous as is the concept of sharing a blocklist, thereby getting blocked by hundreds of others you've never interacted with, because "groupthink!!") /extreme/* SJW's continue to get away with lies / libel / hypocrisy, if you disagree with them or say "god you're an idiot" the return will be "did you just say you hate niggers and threaten to rape me?!" they (/extreme/* SJW's) continue to misrepresent what people say and HATE being disagreed with.
Continually hashtags are suppressed with auto-completion not working or not being listed as trending topics.
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The PRIMARY message of SJW's, overall is one of being nice, not racist, not sexist and so on. Therefore of course debating with them, it's easily implied you're against those things. Problem is the /extreme/* SJW's hijack the cause and take it to extremes. Censoring debate of any kind.
I wish I'd never discovered any of this but the more I look into it, the worse it gets, these people are smart, they build contacts within communities in the name of "anti-harassment" and helping, once they have their teeth in, they control what's being discussed. Anything that doesn't fit the status quo, in almost any capacity "must be harassment and needs to go"
* NOTE: I have the /common fucking sense/ to not label ALL SJW's as extremist loonatics, MANY of them are perfectly normal, nice, people who just want a bit of equality, the bad ones, using bad methods are the problem here. I am capable of distinguishing the fact that "not all SJW's" are loonies. It's a real shame that the loony SJW's don't have the common sense to stop claiming "all men are rapists" or any other such thing.
(I hate to bring up gamergate, but as someone who has spent a fair amount of time reading on this, it's incredible how much vitriol has been spit at this group, with only a small fraction of them being dicks, don't let that stop a HUGE group of people and the media endlessly claim that it's 100% without question internet misogyny terrorism of the highest order though)
Anonymous post again unfortunately, lest someone tryu and get me fired or arrested. ...)
(and the fact I feel compelled to post anonymously is a real issue on this, especially since "they don't harass"
Am supposed to find the anti-vaxxers, environmentalist wackjobs, and SJW victimhood peddlers on the left "rational"?
Don't kid yourself. No political party has a lock on reason, civility, or moderation. It's only a difference of what they're being irrational reactionaries ABOUT. Does it really matter at the end of the day if the guy holding the "THE END IS NIGH!!!" placard and screaming that we're all gonna die is a bible-thumper fanatic or a global warming alarmist? I guess with one I could pointlessly argue with him that Jeebus ain't coming back and the other I could pointlessly argue that a sea level rise of even the worst case GW scenario isn't going to even come close to "wiping out humanity." But neither one is going to listen.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
SJWs like to tell us that freedom of association died with the Civil Rights act, so let's take it a step further. If you offer a public accommodation like a social media site, you are held to the same standard as a diner in Alabama. Twitter should have no more of a right to ever censor or moderate or mess with anyone's posting on Twitter than a diner owner can turn away people of different races, men or women, different religions, you name it.
It's long past time that political views became a protected class since everything else is a protected class at this point.
This. My god this.
Meanwhile, progressives just form Orwellian "Trust and Safety" councils and ban badthink. You will be made to care!
Not even close! Twitter has a political agenda going on many fronts. Just see what Twitter censorship looks like in Europe!
"...it doesn't violate the First Amendment unless you're thrown in jaaaaaail!" The schadenfreude reaches epic levels when progressive tactics are turned on them. Pretty soon, they'll seriously turn on each other in an attempt to be MOAR progressive.
Twitter has a market cap of 12 billion dollars despite having never made a single penny in profit. Its use as a tool of propaganda is why.
SJW is a word used to describe the fanatical ones.
And the movement is getting crazier as the sane minds leave it.
Nothing to see here, move along.
and it makes news now. I saw the video and she calls to bring the gang members to heel. What is wrong with it? Has our country gone batshit suddenly or what? I am not a HRC supporter as I don't subscribe to her or Sanders economic views. But this is crap to hold a candidate accountable to what they said 20 years back. I think this BLM movement is crap. This is coming from a non Caucasian. I understand the frustration of blacks as I have experienced racism as well. But this is crap
Big whoop. The commissars of the ominously named "Trust and Safety Council" have been trying to purge Twitter of all conservatives, or any users who are insufficiently communist. That may be PART of the reason why Twitter is shedding users and the stock price is cratering.
When Twitter goes bankrupt later this year, perhaps something more inclusive can be formed from the debris.
Republicans don't run twitter. That company is a pack of hard-core leftards like you.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
You are not ALLOWED to disagree with the SJW Commissars. To disagree with their "enlightened wisdom" is a clear sign of badthink.
that's retarded and you must be retarded for thinking it.
Not only censor it.
But started autosuggesting whichtrump, whichsanders, and whichcruz when you typed in which.
I'm sure it's a concidence that twitter is a big clinton supporter.
(ironic. a clinton govt would do more to censor twitter itself than any other.)
It's a sexist joke.
No, but it is whored out to garner votes.. "Vote for me! I care!! They dont"
"SJW is a word used to describe the fanatical ones."
With fanatic usually defined as "anyone who calls me out for acting like a dick".
Play Command HQ online
I'm the op you're replying to:
You're right SJW does describe the extremists, sorry. For the sake of simplicity though it's the best way to describe them.
FWIW I have a friend who is harder left than I am, a good guy, he doesn't engage in most of this stupid shit but sometimes, the stuff he's happy endorsing frightens me. Particularly Trump censorship, right censorship, just general "oh well if you don't like it, don't do the wrong thing" kinda stuff. He's no activist but he agrees with some pretty outlandish stuff.
It's kinda frightening to have someone I respect who is quite intelligent to go down the slippery slope of agreeing with some pretty fucked up things, for the sake of political correctness.
By some fanatical right wings wanting to cash off it yes, but in most cases are people that have completely insane ideas like sexist air conditioners, banning halloween costumes, anti free speech protests...
When its nutty enough to became the buttend of some jokes, its an SJW.
It's a VERY slippery slope, with several, several tempting things along the way.
> With fanatic usually defined as "anyone who calls me out for acting like a dick".
No, it's "anyone who tries to dox me or get me fired for speaking my mind."
This must be posted anon. I've a forum that has a number of people. It's pretty active but has a limited scope. I never bring it up on Slashdot, nor is it relevant where the site is. I do not even use the same username on that forum.
Over three days four people joined and started being active participants except they don't have any domain knowledge. They literally don't know anything about the subject. Though, they've picked up a little bit now - at least terminology and whatnot.
Anyhow, they all joined right at about the same time and out of nowhere. I've had a few PMs asking me if I knew them, who they were, where they came from. We're small but fairly active - only a few hundred people. They've never indicated why they showed up.
After a while at building up a reputation, such as it is, they've begun to make small suggestions. One of the things they're suggesting is that we need an AUP/CoC. They've all sent me PMs mentioning that there have been a few off-color jokes and innuendo. I should point out that there's no racism and no abuse. I'd not tolerate such - nor would the rest of the group.
Obviously they will never "gain power." Obviously, I will not be making changes. The only people who are offended are four people who are fairly new (no longer the newest) and they're a little annoying but not too bad, yet. They don't have proxy addresses - as far as I know. I've checked the IP addresses (admins can see that). It's almost certainly four separate people but there's a chance that it's just one person and they've never made one single mistake.
The reason for disclosing this (a first and probably only disclosure) is because community leaders should probably alert for this sort of thing. As near as I can tell, they joined simply to do this. I can not figure out, nor can anyone else that I've communicated with, what attracted them - we aren't big, noisy, or even widely known. We just all have a few things in common, a hobby, and that's it. We're not even all males, straight, or white.
I do not know if it's a concerted effort. I do not know if I was targeted. I keep a pretty clear and distinct line between myself and that identity but it's not like a secret identity or anything. I just don't think they were targeting me specifically, is the point. If you own a site and have an active community, you just might find a few people joining and then trying to control things.
I've had them, all four of them, PM myself or one of the other moderators with requests to be made either a mod or an administrator. They've said things like it looks like we could use some help (we've never deleted a comment, ever) because we're busy. They've even said things like they could run the place better and make it so that we'd attract new users. (We don't need/want more users and don't even have ads on the site.)
I'd just kick and ban them but I really want to see where this is going. I also don't want to deal with the backlash that may come from that sort of activity. They're not actively disrupting much - yet. It's slowly escalating and you can see it's a deliberate attempt to gain control and favor. It will probably come to a head at some point. We're okay with that. Then we'll tell them to stop and ban them if they don't.
Key point in this, as I know there are others here with forums and good communities, is to keep an eye out for them. If one of the moderators hadn't been alert, I might not have noticed.
when you signed up, you mistyped. the "m" key is two over from the "b" but you were close.
Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2002/s237
I'd really like to see further updates on this as time goes on.
Considering SJW / Anti-SJW style articles are appearing on slashdot once per fortnight nowadays, you've got a chance to give updates anonymously and have us catch the updates.
It's interesting, I'd like to see if you're right about them.
Ban them. They're people from the same group behind geekfeminism and the former Ada Initiative. Entryism is their preferred tactic.
For a variety of reasons, I must remain AC. I did not realize anyone would be that curious, I was simply pointing out that there seems to be a concerted effort from this group of people. That way, others could be alert for it and do what they need to do about it. I'll try to give as much information as I reasonably can.
Not verbatim:
It starts off small, "Oh, you don't need to say that." It has reached, "Well, that's just in poor taste." I'm expecting, "You really need to stop." I'll probably let it get as far as, "I'm going to do something." Or, "Someone needs to do something about you." I expect those next. I did not expect anyone to be really interested but, seeing as you are, I'll go take a look and see what else I can figure out.
It is interesting to watch and it really does seem to be like it's intentional. I just checked some logs.
Thoughts/Observations:
They all joined within 72 hours of each other.
Three of them joined on the same day and within an four hours of each other.
Within two additional days, it looks like 6 more accounts were created.
All six of those accounts are from the same IP addresses used by the Original Four, that's their new name.
One of the Original Four only appears to have one account - the three others have two accounts each.
The Spare Accounts, that's their name name, have gibberish but validated email addresses.
IP address/hostnames don't appear to be a VPN.
No posts have been made by the Spare Accounts.
The Spare Accounts have been active, are activated, and have browsed the forum. (Checking shadowban or something? They aren't.)
It appears the Spare Accounts have sent PMs.
I can read the PMs and see who they sent them to, I refuse to do so. There is a clear warning that PMs can be read by anyone who can access the database. There is also a clear statement that I will not do so unless given a lawful warrant for that data. (We don't do much there to attract attention.)
It does start off small and, I'm going to say, innocent seeming. I'd not even noticed some of the above until just now. Depending on the fallout, which may be nothing, I'll consider documenting it better and then sharing it in another format.
It could well be nothing but it is strange. We're not some MRA group. We're not men-only. There are just over 300 of us. Out of that 300, only about 50 are really even active on a weekly basis. Our most-ever online is just ~100 people, counting guests and not counting spiders. It looks like we average little under 80 posts per day. Many of those posts are in the "chat" sections. They're off-topic chatting and cover a range of subjects like politics, news, weather, and things like that.
We don't have any specific political bent. We run the gamut. Many of us have met in person but not all of us. The board kind of has finances as a subject but it's not about any online ventures, MLM, or things like that. Some of our more active members are females. Logged in users can see that we share pictures of ourselves, our family, and things like that. While it is financial, it's kind of niche and that's the best way to describe it - it's more than just financial. We all have a few things in common, for the most part, but the finances is not that - directly.
I'm trying to be generic but give up as much information as I can. Maybe you (or someone else) can draw conclusions that I am not able to see.
Some of the Original Four have had some slight run-ins with other community members. It hasn't been anything major. All of the Original Four have had some sort of comments. They all have their writing styles but that could be faked easily. It doesn't seem like it is just one person. The IP addresses point to real residential IP addresses or are assigned to a mobile phone company. They point to a similar geographic location - I'm not sure if I should disclose that or not. It is not private information so I guess I can. All IP addresses (except the mobile phone IP addresses, I can not tell where that is coming from) p
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I've never banned anyone or anything.I had not seen that link. Thank you for sharing. I had seen ESR's prior post. I did not know he had made a follow-up so, thank you for that. It is an interesting read. I will touch on that briefly.
I have reasons for my AC posting. I imagine that you can guess some of those reasons. I've no real interaction or misfortune from any of this sort of thing and I'd really like to keep it that way. I've been "doxxed" before and that's not a pleasant thing. So, please pardon me if I tread lightly with what I reveal and how I do so. Please try to understand it from my perspective - which might be complicated.
The reason that I thank you for the link is because the manner of speech in your provided link, as well as at least one of the usernames at my forum, are very similar. They are not exact. They are very similar. As I clicked through and around your link, reading some of the other linked material/evidence, I couldn't help but notice some particularities and similarities. Pardon me for not speculating or stating anything more authoritative than that.
I'd also like to thank you for the link as it's indicative of some complacency or outright affiliation. How? If you read your own link well (and I'm assuming you have) you'll notice that GitHub has gone ahead and actually deleted some actual data. And, if the evidence is to be believed, it looks like GitHub (and only GitHub) have the capacity to delete user content. I am not seeing anyone who has asked them why they deleted it.
Go ahead and check my other post, linked at the top of this post, if you're so inclined. At this point, I'm not going to decline the chance to ban them. I have (nor does anyone else have) anything to fear and the community is not that frail. I've already gone ahead and started on the composition of a message to let others know and to exercise caution if needed.
I am leaning towards observe, document, anonymize the data, and (if applicable) share the results. I'm reasonably certain of the community's strength. As of this moment in time, I make no accusations nor do I draw any conclusions than those stated authoritatively. I'm declining the chance to speculate that it is a concerted effort, that it is a targeted effort, that there's a motive, or that there's any connection between these or other events. At this point, I have nothing greater than observations.
If Twitter were taken down where would all the people incapable of processing thoughts longer than 140 characters in length find their intellectual direction?
Sounds good to me, personally I'd consider reading the PM's - see just how the collusion is going on entirely. (Do they make it known that they know each other?)
Another interested reader here. I'll read your updates too. I used to play with some phpBB forums with a buddy back in high school with active user counts in the low double digits. I'm concerned about this "entryism" tactic being used by any group of people, SJWs or anybody else.
Oh, about the forum and post count, I've learned that easily over half the posts will be in the off-topic forums. People might join a site to discuss a particular topic, but they will bring up everything under the sun wherever they are. Forums are social places (web 2.0?) and anywhere people meet, random topics occur.
About the PMs between each other: if you think these users are colluding, they aren't using your forum to do it. They might even be baiting you with the content of PMs. You say you have a "clear statement that you won't read PMs unless served a lawful warrant," and they might be testing that. So be sure to stick to your written policies. In my younger days I remember testing people's access to information by using the PM functions on forums.
FWIW, this sounds like a pretty standard infiltration attack, regardless of motive: sockpuppet multiple accounts with a couple of friends, create just enough of an echo chamber to get one or more of them increasingly elevated privileges over time, then attempt primary objective. Since the guy's site vaguely covers financial topics, the target may not even be the site itself; it could just as easily be an effort to gather information about one or more of the site's users for use in a separate spearphishing or doxing attack.
For a somewhat related example, this type of attack has been famously used in EVE Online repeatedly, to devastating effect, with some of the most famous ones involving months of infiltration by multiple conspirators.
Nice work SJW #2345796 your words serve the cause well. I send out to you my most appreciative SJW karma.