New "Super Battery" Energy Storage Breakthrough Aims At $54 Per KWh (cleantechnica.com)
mdsolar writes: BioSolar and the University of California, Santa Barbara, reinforced a previous international patent application by jointly filing applications in the U.S., Canada and Japan for something called a "multicomponent-approach to enhance stability and capacitance in polymer-hybrid supercapacitors." The BioSolar energy storage approach solves two core problems of conventional lithium-ion battery technology. One is the cost of materials, and the other is the limited capacity of the cathode compared to the anode. BioSolar has solved the cost and capacity problem by developing an inexpensive polymer for the cathode. "Our novel high capacity cathode is engineered from a polymer, similar to that of low-cost plastics used in the household. Through a smart chemical design, we are able to make the polymer hold an enormous amount of electrons. The estimated raw materials cost of our cathode is similar to that of inexpensive plastics, with a very high possible energy density of 1,000 Wh/kg." BioSolar's research also indicates that the new polymer enables batteries to charge and discharge rapidly while far outlasting the lifecycle of conventional lithium-ion energy storage. According to the company, conventional batteries drop down to 80 percent of their storage capacity after 1,000 charge/discharge cycles. When the new polymer is used in a supercapacitor, BioSolar's lab work has demonstrated a lifespan of 50,000 cycles without degradation.
When we combine that with fusion solar beamed to the ground from space our energy problems should be essentially solved. I wouldn't want to be an oil company right now.
Wake me up when that happens. I'll bet it will be the same year we have a commercial fusion reactor. Only 20 years away!
Wake me up when they have batteries actually built and selling at that price point. Until then it's just bluster: there's no way to know what industrial challenges will creep in and drive the price up.
Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion.
Sounds too good to be true. I'd like to be wrong about that though.
Like open source projects aims but misses.
Call me when they hit the target.
Yet another battery breakthrough article for what is essentially a lab demo. While I have not particular knowledge of whether or not this technology is manufacturable, it seems like an awful lot of battery breakthroughs don't really pan out once it comes to building them in to actual products.
This is a cool development and it may set back fuel cell adoption, but batteries aren't a crucial technology. http://news.slashdot.org/story...
Fantasies for addled-brained children.
http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the...
And what does "fusion solar" even mean?
As usual they "created" a battery on paper. After testing this 'amazing' polymer anode, they claim, combined with graphite cathode a magical-battery could be plausible. Nothing to see here folks its just vaporware. This is just more bull to keep their gravy train going. If they wanted real information they could simply have added the graphite cathode and published real world performance.
Through a smart chemical design, ...
So relieved to hear they didn't use a dumb chemical design. /pedantic
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Ok, so what's the deal with this 'battery breakthrough'. Is it a lie? I ask the provocative question because I've heard a *lot* of "battery breakthrough" stories (they are almost as common as solar panel breakthroughs), and yet ....new batteries that store gobs of power? Example: a few years ago, there was a 'super battery breakthrough' here, that is supposed to be a wildly better way to manufacture batteries where the cathode is so much better than before. And if you note the date of the article, its more than a couple of years ago. And super cheap, super powerful batteries sure look like the batteries you bought in 1970. And either the whole thing is a dud, or someone came along, bought the technology, and is sitting on it. Now it could be argued that either of those is possible, but certainly the net effect is either of those. Now we get another story about 'super battery technology' that promises blah blah. So what are the odds that in 5 years your batteries will look exactly like the ones you have now? I think pretty darn good.
At $54 per kWh capacity and more than 50000 charge-discharge cycles without degradation, storing 1 kWh in these batteries would cost far less than a cent. At an energy density of 1kWh per kWh, these batteries would make electric cars a no-brainer. If they had that kind of battery technology, they'd shut up about it and disrupt (did I say that right) both the oil industry and the electrical grid. They don't have that kind of technology.
How can such a naive, information-free post be modded informative?
Oil companies are the most profitable businesses on earth. They are all delighted that they are oil companies. They can be other things, too, just so long as the opportunity cost isn't too great.
Oil produces more than just energy.
All solar is fusion...
......and it's only 5 years away and always, always will be.
What i'd like to see with stories such as this is follow up. What happens next? How far along are the prototypes? How soon will production begin? Are there any nonsense holdups? The process of discoveries finally making it to usable products is far more interesting than lab discoveries.
The same big names will provide clean and renewable energy in the future.
Maybe not. If batteries are cheap, and solar panels are cheap, then I can just have my own batteries and panels. So why do I need to buy energy from a "big company"? In my neighborhood, I already see dozens of houses with solar panels. Imagine how many will have them when they actually make sense!
I would think it would still be useful with other, more realizable power generation methods. I suggest harnessing the power of unicorn farts as a stop-gap measure.
Correct. And wind is caused by heating of the atmosphere by sunlight, therefore we should call them "fusion wind turbines". Also, solar panels right here on this planet must now be called "fusion solar panels". As well as hydro dams, which operate from rainwater, which is also caused by sunlight, therefore we should call them "fusion hydroelectric dams".
Are you always this irrelevant and stupid, or just on the weekends?
Well then oil is also fusion because without the sun there would be no fauna and flora that would ultimately evolve in oil.
>And what does "fusion solar" even mean?
Fusion solar makes a sound like this: "whooosh".
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3D printers. Duh. Only a revisionist LUDDITE would believe otherwise.
The question is: Exponential growth, for a time anyhow, like CPU power/(dollar or watt) or diminishing returns like thermal efficiency of a heat engine.
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We do have fusion solar beamed to the ground from space. It's called the sun.
Another day, another "breakthrough in energy storage tech" vapourware article.
Gives you everything you need to cheaply kiss your electric company goodbye you pick and save rejects.
I remember a somewhat similar question : why don't we do 5nm semi-conductors right now instead of wasting time with 28nm, 22nm, 14nm etc.?
Well I'm not sure what the answer is but I would say it is too hard, or even impossible.
Even with $10 billion cash in hand, it's going to take many years to build that 5nm fab.
Going from lab experiment to mass production of a "super battery" seems easier in comparison but will still take time, a ballpark figure given for industrialization of something is 5 years. Perhaps many of the battery breakthroughs end up impractical because of some detail, or because someone's not betting $100 million on it, or because more classical batteries improve a bit or drop in price in the mean time.
Where's bubble memory? It was once thought to be the greatest computer memory ever. Which "super battery" or "ultra cheap battery" to bet on?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
In all cases you can't expect commercial availability 1.5 year after some university paper.
"BioSolar's research also indicates that the new polymer enables batteries to charge and discharge rapidly while far outlasting the lifecycle of conventional lithium-ion energy storage."
Can these batteries recharge at a rate comparable to refilling my truck with gasoline? I doubt it. I can refill my truck in about five minutes, there is no way a battery can transfer that kind of energy in that amount of time, even if we account for the poor efficiency of an ICE to the high efficiency BEV and adjust energy needed accordingly.
What really holds back electric vehicles is not just the limited range alone but the recharge rate. If I can recharge a BEV at the same rate I can refill my dinosaur burning truck then I would not have a problem with them. A five minute stop every so often on a road trip is usually not an issue for people, people typically have to stop anyway for biological reasons. A four hour stop, or even a 30 minute stop, can be a problem for people.
Assuming we can find a battery that can take a charge comparable to the energy transfer of a roadside gasoline pump the problem then becomes creating a system to move that many electrons safely on something that must move down a road.
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Wow, that explains why the stock price of Ultra Petroleum has gone from 70 dollars to 40 cents.
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Ah, you mean it's actually a fusion wind turbine?
What is that?
Natural Gas?!?! I already use that to heat my house, I suspect not all of it comes from unicorns but they charge me like it does.
I really hope that this is not one of those things where they have a tiny postage stamp sized things freshly pulled from a beaker that can power an LED. Keep in mind that I can stuff some metal wires into a lemon and power an LED.
I want to see a demonstration unit that is doing something where I can calculate the power output. So a 5 KG battery boiling from room temperature a known amount of water. That is something where the energy efficiency is fairly high and the physics are boringly hard to fake.
I am sick of these battery breakthroughs not having any "proof" I am OK with a 10 minute video that shows one of their batteries doing something such as the boiling water thing sped up with a clock in the background. In fact I am far more interested in that than some MBA wannabe just sitting in a chair talking about how this technology will make people immortal on Mars.
But 5 minutes of blah blah, with 10 seconds in a lab showing some unknown motor or bulb running for a few seconds is not proof, it is nothing. Again, I can do stuff with a lemon. What will not happen is a few more developments that lets me drive a Tesla with that lemon.
How cheap would it have to get to become reasonable to cut yourself off completely from the grid?
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Then why the subsidies?
This will change once he cuts himself of oil for transportation. But the number you are looking for is somewhat subjective. Some people are willing to pay more because of ideological reasons and some will count any hassles as a barrier.
For me, cheap enough will be below current prices and i can have the system paid off within 5 years with the ability to quickly and easily repair anything myself or have someone do it for me within a day or so. That's what I have now with electric bills between $50 and $100 a month. Anything from the meter to inside i fix, anything from the meter to the generation source, they fix. If I cannot run to the local hardware store and buy a part and replace it, it isn't cheap enough.
A lot of posters on Slashdot seem to have a cynical love of the status quo. "I've seen promises of breakthroughs before.The actual product is many years away." But science is full of incremental progress, dead ends and false hopes. We should celebrate the effort and the possibilities. There is more to life than 9 to 5 sys admin.
(my suspicion is that system administrators are, by nature, conservative. Debbie downers...)
In general, you also need to consider the cost of reliability.....how much intermittence are you willing to tolerate?
The real win will be when people in shanty-towns in third-world countries can afford to have their own electricity system.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Bookmarked.
While I want to agree with you, he's also pulling people who have never voted before in fairly large numbers. THAT's his, ahem, trump card. It's unlikely he wins but if he can pull in new votes he may not need as many people from the pool of normal voters.
People in cars cause accidents....accidents in cars cause people
And likely just as real. It is high time that any and all patent applications require delivery of a working prototype and for extraordinary claims such as these, independent creation of the device by a 3rd party based on the patent application only to verify the patent application is complete and truthful. It should not be possible to patent non-extraordinary things in the first place.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
I have extremely high confidence in the constant and dependable level of apathy demonstrated by (the) hoi polloi. :)
But we will see. This is (obviously I hope) just my opinion.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
hahahaha swing votes are thinkers.. oh man, that was the best laugh I've had in awhile. Of course anyone who votes for a major party is a "thinker", they are soooo smrt.
In Australia it already makes economic sense, we were targeted with the launch of home batteries like Telstra and Enphase because we'll be the first country to hop off the grid on mass due to our incomptent governments. They are even debating trying to make the death spiral worse and get more people off grid by trying everything you shouldn't to get them to stay, including large fines based on historical and projected use if you leave the grid. Never occurs to them they need to write off the grid networks debt because they gamed the system so hard from bad laws that there is no possible way we would ever get back our investment as tax payers.
When they confuse batteries with super capacitors, I smell bullshit.
I see them on Craigslist for 1.00 a watt now put a had full of those on your heat pump in the day even without a battery at night do you have any idea how big a hole that knocks in your electric bill.
How much more fucing sense can something make.
Beat you to it!
Who needs fusion? I'm already generating 25-35kwh per day off my roof, and I use about 20kwh power overall - the problem is, I only use about 10kwh of it during the time it's getting generated - the rest is getting put on to the grid for which I get a measly 7c/kwh credit - and I am buying that power back at night time for 25c/kwh. If that's not bad enough, I also get charged 7c per day for the provlege of selling my power to the utility at 7c/kwh.
I'll take 20kwh of batteries please - I have $1080 in cash waiting for you.
Oil companies are 2nd and 7th in profits
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Except for all the fission bits, and the oxidation bits, and the matter/antimatter annihilation bits. Don't fool yourself that these aren't going on to some extent or another.
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
As of today, you can get at least 2800mAH in a single AA rechargeable NiMH battery. Back in the olden days a nickel cadmium AA might of had 400mAH.
You don't SEE battery advances. The battery form-factors rarely change. They just get denser (more energy), faster (charging) and cheaper.
Many rechargeable batteries can get to 80% in a very short period of time (minutes).
I think many people forget how long it used to take to charge phones and other devices. Hours. Overnight. Not minutes.
What makes you think you can cut yourself off of the grid? There are laws against that sort of thing.
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
There are laws against that sort of thing.
Really? Why?
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
It's cheap enough now for some people. I generate 50% of my power via PV with a payback period of about 12 years (3 down, 9 to go) and my house is not ideally situated (East facing roof, built in the 40s with poor insulation, tons of windows)
The major factor keeping me on grid is the expense of batteries. I could double my PV install and generate 100% of needs, but I'd still need batteries on top of that.
$54/kWh would let me install 100 kWh of storage for $5400. Compare that to musks power wall. Big difference.
It's even better than that. I had 5kW of solar panels installed on my roof and now I don't even run my A/C nearly as much as I used to. Funny thing about converting sunshine to electricity - it directly reduces the amount of sunshine converting into heat. Now I finally understand the first law of thermodynamics!
The major factor keeping me on grid is the expense of batteries. I could double my PV install and generate 100% of needs, but I'd still need batteries on top of that.
Exactly.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
The word fusion isn't limited to being used for nuclear fusion.
In the context of beaming energy to Earth I would assume that fusion means combining sunlight from a large amount of mirrors into a single point.
By not having a single high energy beam going down but multiple each one doesn't have to be lethal for anyone that happens to come between.
Only the surface area where the energy is extracted will be extra hot.
Because "You need power for smoke and carbon monoxide detectors", or "You must be connected to the sewer system", or "You cannot hoard rain water", or some such nonsense.
In reality, it's just that Uncle Sam and Mayor Quimby need their cut.
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
True, it's looking like Reagan all over again in terms of popularity but far more scary in terms of what Trump is saying. The only upside is Trump knows he's just spinning bullshit with things like Mexico paying for some sort of wall and all the rest of the blatant salesmanship.
Our enemies in the middle east who take Trump's word as being real probably think Bin Laden has won and America has doomed itself. America is not doomed if Trump wins because the batshit insane suggestions are just "spin" and he'll act like all the other born to old money crony capitalist Republicans instead of some sort of dangerous radical.
Expect something like Baby Bush's administration except maybe Trump will turn up for work more often.
It depends where you live. For some people I know it was 2002 since the utility wanted thousands to run a line in. Now it's looking like it's going to happen in the suburbs in some areas due to blatant price gouging.
It may be expensive to go offgrid but it's starting to get to be very expensive to stay on the grid in some areas, especially when you get conflicts of interest with governments having electricity companies as a major source of revenue (eg. in Australia).
I suggest you enrol to vote and maybe do something about it instead of putting up with that shit.
Land of the free my arse. Don't need to wear a seatbelt so have the right to die stupid but you can't have a water tank? If you all got off your backsides and voted those few that play at politics couldn't put such things over on you.
First, do the people talking about the science get their units right? Forget mixing imperial and metric, do the words and the measurements match up at all?
Energy density is energy per volume. Wh/gal, Wh/L, MJ/L, or something like that.
Specific energy is energy per weight. Wh/lb, Wh/kg, MJ/kg, or something like that.
They're reporting an "energy density" with units of "specific energy." Are they doing their comparisons well if they don't understan what they're looking at? Have they done the measurement properly?
Maybe this is a great invention, but this wasn't ready for publication or press release.
Where do you live that you have to connect to the grid? I know a guy who keeps his milk in an ice cooler. He doesn't bother with any electricity if it's not in a battery. You know, use of electricity commercially began in the late 1800s. My grandfather was the first in his family to have electric lights. Millions of people lived without it even then. I can see a day coming where millions will live without it again.
Good point.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
ok, I see you have trouble recognizing context lol. I meant the power grid, since we're talking about power.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Looks promising...and somewhat closer than fusion power.
"Trump can't pull sane republicans; and he can't pull democrats either"
There aren't enough "sane republicans" left to populate Rhode Island and even if they were numerous, they'll vote for the nominee.
There's an old saying that accurately describes the parties - "Democrats fall in love; Republicans fall in line"
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
Florida or parts thereof is such a place - http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/ar...
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
If batteries are cheap, and solar panels are cheap, then I can just have my own batteries and panels. So why do I need to buy energy from a "big company"?
Batteries and solar panels both come with long term environmental costs. Like most manufacturing processes around the world today, there are toxic by-products generated, which need to be disposed of.
Most people are completely clueless about this: they have no idea that ordinary goods like cell phones and desktop computer are produced using chemicals that are hard to dispose of. It's not the fault of the engineers, who tend to be pretty interested in finding better (i.e. cleaner) ways to do things, but the problem is nevertheless there.
The solar system batteries will also have toxic waste implications when they fail (sooner, rather then later), and the panels will as well (later, rather then sooner). There are also costs associated with maintenance (including the costs of getting the workers and the tools to the site): nothing you install on your house will ever be entirely maintenance free.
In short, solar systems aren't ever going to be cheap, no matter how far the price comes down. The hidden costs may come to greatly exceed the purchase price, especially if we run into a "tragedy of the commons" situation.
Of course, environmental considerations also apply to energy supplied from a "big company".
We need to decide, as a society, which set of environmental costs is more acceptable, or whether we'll support both, and what the rules will be for who can do what.
In some ways, it is easier to regulate the "big company", provided society stops believing the propaganda nonsense that regulation somehow equals socialism (instead of being a necessary part of a healthy capitalist economy). But at the same time, lots of abuses of basic rights by the "big companies" of the world are a well documented aspect of 20th century history, and seem the be continuing full speed ahead into the 21st century.
Hay merchants used to provide many kilos of food every day to every propulsion source in the land. Then, as new transport methods developed, some morphed into selling coal (for railways), wheels (for wagons), or mineral oil (for internal combustion engines). And some people who remained selling hay for horses, went out of business.
If Shell (to pick an example) chose to bring out a well packaged battery+15sq.m+controller package that would take someone 90% off the grid, then their marketing know-how and engineering expertise (don't forget - these companies have large engineering know-how. A sensor and metering package on a wellhead that ran off it's own solar panel + battery might save several thousand dollars/ year of costs, which would make a lot of sense to a company with 100,000 oil wells) could well make it a very attractive buy. Even more so compared to a foreign company like Texaco's package.
We have noticed how Shell has been morphing to a gas company over the last decade or so. Reduced lift cost.
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There are no Dilithium crystals in our Sun. Maybe in the Klingon star, but not ours.
North Korea, too: http://www.globalsecurity.org/...
Look at history. No Democrat has succeeded another democrat since Harry Truman. I don't count LBJ because of the shooting thing with JFK. He was installed, not elected. Then he was simply re-elected. In fact, Truman doesn't count either, he succeeded Roosevelt when he died in office. So certainly no modern Dem has succeeded another Dem. Reps succeed Reps all the time. In fact it's just about expected. GW Bush stunk up the place so bad, he broke that.
Bad choices all around. A despotic pathological liar - Hilary (there certainly seems to be enough out there to say this), a Socialist without a clue (I'm not sure how this guy manages to pay for his own lunch)- Sanders, then the 3 ring circus that is the Republican party (hurry, hurry hurry, step right this way. Now showing the big guys ).
The way it is right now Trump will be the next Pres. I'm as sure of it as I was that Obama would be the next one in 2008. Of course, he was.
The country deserves a whole lot better than either party can provide. Feel like I'm just listening to the music on the deck of the Titanic. It'll be over soon.
The only problem with that is GWB was largely kept in check by the last vestige of the old GOP guard in the Senate. They didn't do crazy shit.
And now the Senate is as crazy as the House was and the House is beyond loony toons. That means Trump would have to start vetoing GOP crazy bills and I don't really see that happening as often as would be necessary.
The only silver lining is that Trump might cost them the Senate (if the SCOTUS obstruction doesn't by itself).
People in cars cause accidents....accidents in cars cause people
That "old guard" were pushing to invade Iraq for years and finally got a chance to do it when some Saudis led by a guy given shelter in Afganistan got up to no good. Sounds crazy to me. There is far crazier but I think things will be stuck at that level. It's best to remember that a lot of the really crazy shit is about throwing a spanner in the works when somebody else is running a government, so if they end up as "the dog that caught the bus" they just won't know what to do next such plans. Expect plenty of jobs for cronies and keeping seats warm while pocketing cash.
Oh, I recognize the context. However, that context fits into a larger context. It is becoming illegal to not be interfaced with some government mandated corporate monopoly or another somewhere along the line - be it power, or water, or sewage,or whatever. You must be trackable For Your Own Safety(TM)
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
Out in the country where I used to live, you can dig your own well, deal with sewage yourself......but in the middle of the city, I kind of understand not being allowed to do that.......
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Add Canada to the list.
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
I'm just as sure he won't. Trump is making his way forward in the Republican process with a small number of passionate supporters. Here are the numbers for eligible voters that have voted Trump:
o IA: 2.0%
o NH: 9.7%
o SC: 6.5%
o NV: 1.8%
That's not a set of numbers that points towards electability.
My guess is that it will be Clinton, because she has the big money people behind her, while Sanders does not. Although there is an outside change that Sanders might get it -- he's doing amazingly well, considering how off the US's historical political path his ideas are. The only way a Dem win might not come about, as I see it, is if the Republicans can field a reasonable candidate -- and all indications at this point is that they are not able to do so.
As for Dem following Dem, Obama has overseen a great deal of good, and if one closes one's eyes to the screaming of the crazies, it's pretty obvious. And he pushed for these things, and saw them happen, in the face of incredibly obstinate and poorly thought-out opposition from congress. From cracking down on the credit card companies to seeing some of the batshit religious prejudices against gays finally legally excised to bringing healthcare to millions and millions of those who were previously locked out of the system, the upshot is that for most people, he's been Dear Leader during a period when things have gotten better -- after Bush and his cronies shat all over everything, nearly destroying our economy.
Obama's been there through, and in some cases been the cause of, some awful things as well; but this is true of all presidents so far, and probably will remain so. For most constitutional issues, he's been poor-to-terrible in what he has said and what he has encouraged; he's still having us make war that benefits no one that isn't a recipient of the monies funneled to the MIC; and he is definitely guilty of "being president while black", something that drives many of the most idiotic US citizens right over the edge (and many of those are Trump supporters.)
For many of the biggest issues - the economic recovery, medical care, improvement of conditions for the majority... those are places where his presidency looks very good to anyone who actually understands what has occurred. So my thinking here is that he's paved the way reasonably well for a Dem succession. Well enough. Whereas Bush left a mess that has yet to be really cleaned up, congress in its Republican guise has been both obstructionist and foolish (and currently suffers some of the lowest approval ratings ever), and Trump is a moronic clown, pulling moronic citizens to his banner - and no one else. It only takes a couple of listens to what he is saying to realize he is speaking nonsense. Anyone who is a fan after listening more than once is truly stupid. And you see, that's not how the Gaussian falls out. Nor do the numbers supporting Trump point towards any possible victory. This trifecta of Republican fail combines to create a very low probability that they can take the presidency.
But again, IMHO. We will see.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
The supercapacitor mentioned is just that and it is 1/3 the storage density of current lithium ion technology. That makes it somewhat impractical. Even though the recharge rate and number of discharges are amazing the sheer size of the battery would be impractical unless further improvements are made. However, such a battery may find many applications outside of cars and if further improvements can be made it could be good for cars drastically reducing the cost. Who knows maybe there is an alternative car where the battery is bigger and heavier but because it can be charged quickly and used almost infniite number of times it would be practical.
Not impressed with your numbers. Small numbers voted for Obama as well. He managed to get elected on "hope and change." What change? Never said. I heard a glimmer of hope from I think Rubio today. He actually started to talk more like Trump. Probably too little, too late.
Hillary, I have a feeling she'll be indicted soon. Besides, I understand she has suffered a couple of strokes on the road and I understand she's showing signs of Alzheimer's. I think that was actually published someplace (alzheimers). I can't find it anymore due to all the articles on her wanting to find a cure for it, and her personal connection to it. Matter of fact, google "Hillary clinton stroke". Looks like a lot of concerns about her health. Smartest thing she could do is just bail out of the race, otherwise the decision may be made for her. She doesn't have to be President.
You give Obama too much credit. He'll go down as the worst President in US history. Carter, the previous worst has even said so. Economic recovery? Yea, that shows me you have no understanding of how economics works. I understand this may sound insulting as the idea was presented to me back in the 1980s on business tapes. Real economists predicted there would be a crash around 2009. 40 year cycle. Sure as crap, they were right. Understand this has nothing to do with who runs congress, the WH, etc. Has to do with birth records. Those retiring. The other arguments are for useful idiots. Obama employs a great deal of useful idiots to spread BS. Economics is probably the least understood concept out there. Most people can't even understand what a million is.
His real work was never allowing a new budget to be passed. That's right, the last budget that was passed was when GW Bush was president. Press says nothing about this, other than a small note perhaps. The one with the big bailout. That's why we have around a $20T debt. Add in his Obamacare, that's around another $60T in debt. It'll take down the country. He's also bringing in uneducated people like no tomorrow. Especially from Muslim areas. Well I could go on, won't. Of course, this isn't racist, this is fact. Facts that a lot of people can't handle. Look into it, you'll get mad.
Constant usage needs constant supply and reliability so the grid is easier to use: simply plug. If you turn it on and off, you may switch to batteries. A mix solution IS better overall.
You are a terrorist. While there are Humans, there will be electric power light. Otherwise we dehumanized! Truly.
The INDIANS would do that, precisely. And AFRICANS would simply kill it and forget it as nothing. The CHINESE too would just keep it forgotten or altogether destroy it. The theme is sensitive, it is still a fame point for the old Greeks to have started speculation on amber magnetism and philosophizing about atoms, so this all spells Occident and Modern Life. If you can take back the World to the Dark Ages, many morons would benefit MORE than when any idiot can come up with superflashlights, cell phones, cameras, etc and simply evade them. Personal experience thanks to better batteries.
Alas, Trump, with his trade-war-monger rhetoric, is drawing a lot of support from the normally reliable Democrat organized labor voters. How important a part of the "Democrat Base" is organized labor? Less than it used to be, perhaps, but it's still significant.
Trump has achieved what I think may be a 1st, getting a declaration of support from both the KKK (David Duke) and the Nation of Islam (Louis Farrakhan).
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
Well, we will see. I remain confident in my assessment. Also quite convinced Obama's done the right thing in most, not all, of the areas he's had the opportunity to do anything at all. The ACA is not the single payer system he asked for. It's a mutation created by Congress. It's still far better than the previous state of affairs, and I'm sure it will continue to evolve. Clinton won't be indicted, IMHO. Too entwined with the power structure. Not to mention they'd have to indict Colin Powell and Susan Rice at the same time, and probably lots of other high powered types. Doesn't seem even slightly likely.
But time will show us both how good our assessments are. Reality has this consistent factual bias. :)
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.