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Anonymous Goes After Miami Police Officer Who Doxed An Innocent Woman (softpedia.com)
An anonymous reader writes: After Miami resident Claudia Castillo noticed a cop speeding down the freeway without a siren, she pulled him over and told him to stop going so fast. The cop's police union chief, Javier Ortiz, decided to take the woman's private details and put them on his Facebook account, asking friends to call her and give her a piece of their mind. Of course, harassment ensued. Now, Anonymous hackers have decided to return the favor and dox the police union chief as payback. For once, these hacktivists did something useful.
> For once, these hacktivists did something useful.
Up until that, the submission was good. Why the judgement in the summary? Is that trolling? Report - then let people discuss.
Unfortunately, police who screw up usually can't be fired, and are insulated from any consequences by the legal system. In Los Angeles a cop, driving wile texting, plowed into a cyclist and killed him. The country prosecutor declined to indict because police privilege. Fortunately the cyclist was a Silicon Valley executive whose family had the resources to sue.
He broke the law, got called out for it and then a buddy called for a mob to join in a conspiracy to commit the crime of harassing the woman. This is probably a violation of a state statute on stalking. Even if it isn't, the union head should be fired and blacklisted from working in a government position in Florida.
Note: this is harassment. A constant stream of people retweeting your stuff, referencing you and stuff like that is not harassment. 90% of what happens on social media and gets called harassment these days is just someone refusing to acknowledge that when you post something in public, you are intrinsically inviting a public response. If you don't like that, use a privacy option. There is not such thing as privacy in public except with regard to what's under your clothes (and that's only outside of an airport).
At least the cop didn't shoot her.
A more accurate version of that motto might be "Protect Ourselves, Bend Over So We Can Serve You."
One of the news stations in Columbus Ohio did a story on something similar. They framed it as electronic distractions but highlighted an enormous amount of cop cars involved in accidents showing dashcam footage of cops plowing through crosswalks hitting people and such. There is a law about texting and driving but the chief said that the cops were exempt because they are trained professionals.
What it boils down to is there are laws for us and law for them.
How do you pull a cop over? Because if I did that every time I saw a cop speeding, I would be pulling a lot of people over.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
If you think you're making a joke, the Colorado State Patrol literally carried the moto "We're your worst nightmare" for a while. Not their official moto, but they sure printed it on a lot of their official public communications. They were all posed around a Corvette trying to look as bad ass as possible, and clearly aimed at speeders, but even then, they're not supposed to be trying to be the speeders worst nightmare, they're supposed to try to keep the roads safe. A good police force should never want to be thought of as a worst nightmare.
Full Name: Ivan Javier Ortiz Also Known As Ivan Javier Ortiz Javier Javi Ortiz Age: 50 Born in, Miami, FL ZodiacSign: Sagittarius Email: Ortiz@FOPmiami.com connected to: http://klout.com/JavierOrtizFO... (USN: JavierOrtizFOP) stsmp@gmail.com javiero@cinci.rr.com javior1@hotmail.com stsmp@hotmail.com Work Summary: President at Fraternal Order of Police Title: Sergeant Work: City Of Miami Location: 1000 NW 62nd St, Miami, FL 33150 Numbers: 305-854-5019 COMMON LANGUAGE Location Identifier Code: MIAMFLBA85E Operating Company Number: 9417 305-795-2300 Previous Jobs: Sergeant Of Police Vice President MiamiFOP President Miami Beach FOP Webmaster Miami Beach FOP President Fraternal Order Of Police Spokesman Fraternal Order Of Police Union President Fraternal Order Of Police ; President Of FOP City: Miami Zip/Postal: 33184-2467 State/Province: Florida Country: US Home Address: 12195 SW 10th ST Miami, FL 33184-2467 APT3 25Â45'32.8"N 80Â23'31.2"W Property Value: $107, 220.00 Taxes: $323.00 Other Listed Address: 1021 SW 88th CT Miami, FL 33174-3269 --- 131 SW 18th AVE Miami, FL 33135-2097 -- 2075 SW 122nd AVE Miami, FL 33175 -- 13509 SW 27th ST Miami, FL 33175-6624 - 400 NW 2nd ST Miami, FL 33129 Phone Numbers: (305) 219-4729 (305) 225-1340 (786) 290-1183(AT&T/MetroPCS) Tiffany Zwick AKA Tiffany Calderon Age: 32 Girlfriend of Javier Ortiz from Miami FOP(Officer who DOX'd innocent civilian for pulling over a Miami FL officer.) Home Address: 7331 63 Rd Miami, FL 33143 786-268-7272 786-715-4008(cell) Relatives Laura Suhanov 63yo Alexandria Zwick 36yo Barbara Labrador 43yo Works at: BeachFront Realty Inc 18205 Biscayne BLVD Ste 2205 North Miami Beach, Florida 33160 Work Phone: 305-405-0615 Fax: 305-305-9331
There is a law about texting and driving but the chief said that the cops were exempt because they are trained professionals.
That's interesting. I would counter to the chief that because they are allowed to do something the general public is not allowed to do (as a result of being "trained professionals"), the consequences to them should be higher than the general public rather than being exempt.
The same way that we hold licensed engineer professionals to higher standards, law enforcement should be held to a higher standard with higher rewards for demonstrated competence and higher punishments for demonstrated failure.
On a related note, what exactly is it that makes these "trained professionals" better at texting while driving than the general public? Do they go through specialized training where they learn techniques of scanning the road while manipulating the phone? Do they go through a practical exercise and exam that involves a closed course with obstacles and are graded to a time standard and number of cones that can be hit? I am really curious about this.
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4511...
(A) No person shall drive a motor vehicle, trackless trolley, or streetcar on any street, highway, or property open to the public for vehicular traffic while using a handheld electronic wireless communications device to write, send, or read a text-based communication.
(B) Division (A) of this section does not apply to any of the following:
[...]
(2) A person driving a public safety vehicle who uses a handheld electronic wireless communications device in that manner in the course of the person's duties;
In California, you'd be wrong. There is an explicit exemption for police to text and drive. http://laist.com/2014/08/27/da_wont_charge_deputy_who_hit_napst.php
CA Vehicle Code section 23123.5:
Not sure about FL, but it's difficult to believe that CA cops get an exemption that FL cops don't.
No, "an eye for an eye" doesn't leave the whole world blind.
"An eye for an eye" is a naturally accepted form of justice. If I slap someone for no reason, I won't be shocked if I'm slapped back with the same level of force. "An eye for an eye" is a concept so natural that being slapped back is a possibility I will always consider. I may have a feeling of frustration if I'm slapped back, but I won't have a feeling of injustice. This means I won't have a desire for revenge if I'm slapped back.
Of course, I never slap someone for no reason. If I slap someone, it's because I want to take control and partially submit the other person to my will. If I'm slapped back, it obviously means my attempt to take control failed. Because of that, I may be tempted to increase the level of violence in order to accomplish my initial goal of taking control. But this new violence I will initiate won't be the results of a feeling of injustice, it won't be the result of a desire for revenge, it will be only the consequence of having failed the first time. I may feel frustration after a failed attempt, but frustration is a lot less powerful a feeling of injustice.
Second, initiating violence is generally a rational action. If I slapped someone with the goal of taking control, it's because I believe my action might be successful. If I'm slapped back (if my first attempt fail), I might decide to increase the level of violence, but again this behavior is rational. The moment I will judge my actions have no chance of success, the moment I believe the price I might pay because of my action is superior to what I might gain, I will stop initiating violence. I won't continue violence until the whole world is blind, I will stop violence when I see no gain.
The justice system works not because it avoids using the concept of "an eye for an eye", it works because the justice system is extremely powerful and the "victim" of the justice system can't do anything about it. Any form of violence against the justice system is doomed to fail. The justice system could use the "an eye for an eye" system and it will work as well.
The main reason society dropped the concept of an eye for an eye because "justice" is not the goal of the justice system. The goal of the justice system is to do what is best for the system we call "society". The justice system is about order, it is not about justice. This means that if we want justice, we have to do it ourselves. And that's what a lot of people do.
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Unfortunately, police who screw up usually can't be fired, and are insulated from any consequences by the legal system.
Yes, this is really problematic. I really can't understand why police are often granted general immunity from negligence, etc. in a democratic form of government.
I can understand that exemptions should be made in case of emergencies. Sometimes police responding to or dealing with an emergency need to be granted immunity from negligence that comes about by accident in a tense situation. Otherwise, you'll have cops hesitating to do what is necessary to protect public safety in emergencies, etc.
But that shouldn't be true in general. If a cop is randomly driving around town or patrolling and runs over someone and kills them (in a non-emergency situation), they should go to prison, like anyone else. Unfortunately, I would also note that accidental pedestrian strikes by motorists are often not prosecuted as much as they should be... this isn't just a problem with police.
I recently heard a young man claim that he had become a sheepdog when he joined a local police department. That attitude really scares me. I tend to think of most of them as scarecrows.