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Anonymous Goes After Miami Police Officer Who Doxed An Innocent Woman (softpedia.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the an-eye-for-an-eye dept.

An anonymous reader writes: After Miami resident Claudia Castillo noticed a cop speeding down the freeway without a siren, she pulled him over and told him to stop going so fast. The cop's police union chief, Javier Ortiz, decided to take the woman's private details and put them on his Facebook account, asking friends to call her and give her a piece of their mind. Of course, harassment ensued. Now, Anonymous hackers have decided to return the favor and dox the police union chief as payback. For once, these hacktivists did something useful.

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  1. Report + Judgment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > For once, these hacktivists did something useful.

    Up until that, the submission was good. Why the judgement in the summary? Is that trolling? Report - then let people discuss.

    1. Re:Report + Judgment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      But it was anonymous that made the submission. Come on dude, pay attention.

    2. Re:Report + Judgment by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually what might be useful is figuring out whether the officer misused confidential information in a way that is either illegal or against department policy.

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    3. Re:Report + Judgment by sumdumass · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was wondering the same thing. Either way, I don't think activity like this should be happening from a cop or any public official in response tto any public interactions from citizens regardless of any legalities. How can anyone be expected to peacefully assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances if they are harassed and menaced by that same government.

    4. Re:Report + Judgment by ArchieBunker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Cops can straight up murder someone and receive no punishment. I'm sure this guy will get the book thrown at him for misusing department computers.

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    5. Re: Report + Judgment by samkass · · Score: 5, Informative

      You mean a 5' 7" 12-year-old who had a toy gun tucked into his belt while sitting on a swing, and which never left his belt in the 4 seconds it took the cops to fire on him after arriving on the scene nor the four minutes they allowed him to bleed out before the first officer attempted any sort of first aid? Who was shot by a rookie police officer whose weapons training was rated "dismal", was said to be unable to follow "basic functions as instructed", and showed a "dangerous loss of composure" in his previous assignment before being fired?

      Let's at least get the facts straight.

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  2. Re:No - it wasnt useful by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately, police who screw up usually can't be fired, and are insulated from any consequences by the legal system. In Los Angeles a cop, driving wile texting, plowed into a cyclist and killed him. The country prosecutor declined to indict because police privilege. Fortunately the cyclist was a Silicon Valley executive whose family had the resources to sue.

  3. They wonder why they get no respect by MikeRT · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He broke the law, got called out for it and then a buddy called for a mob to join in a conspiracy to commit the crime of harassing the woman. This is probably a violation of a state statute on stalking. Even if it isn't, the union head should be fired and blacklisted from working in a government position in Florida.

    Note: this is harassment. A constant stream of people retweeting your stuff, referencing you and stuff like that is not harassment. 90% of what happens on social media and gets called harassment these days is just someone refusing to acknowledge that when you post something in public, you are intrinsically inviting a public response. If you don't like that, use a privacy option. There is not such thing as privacy in public except with regard to what's under your clothes (and that's only outside of an airport).

    1. Re:They wonder why they get no respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Many non-police don't understand police culture. As an inescapable consequence of how the brain adapts, cops understand non-cops as second-class citizens. Not only that, they largely see all non-cops as children; needing to be managed and disciplined because they are inherently immature (or just evil) people.

      A civilian calling a cop out is not unlike a child trying to punish an adult for breaking a rule that only applies to children. Not only does the rule not apply (at least in the cop's mind), but the child is being sassy and uppity and disrespectful and is not allowed to punish an adult.

      I am not saying this is right. Clearly it is not. I am just explaining why this sort of response is unavoidable. And cops don't start seeing the world like this just because they are jerks, but because the majority of their interaction with people fits neatly into either of two categories....person is a cop and is a decent person, person is not a cop and is a criminal. The brain cannot help but start seeing the world in these terms.

      I wonder if there is a way to address the root cause...how does one keep a cop busy doing police work but also mitigate the psychological damage police work does to a person?
       

    2. Re:They wonder why they get no respect by Immerman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Doesn't seem like it should be too hard. Keep the police under constant surveillance (or at least protect public recording of their actions), and then, with 100% consistency, punish criminals in uniform to the maximum extent permitted by law. Plus further punishment for the violation of public trust. And that includes conspirators and accessories like the cop that stands by and does nothing while their partner commits a crime. Perhaps have something like a three strikes law - after your third violation you get a lifetime ban from ever serving any role within the legal system.

      The problem I think is largely not that they get extra power and privilege, but that they are not held accountable for their crimes. You get the same effect in a classroom where cheating has no consequences, it doesn't take long for cheating to go from an exception to the norm.

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    3. Re:They wonder why they get no respect by voss · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.policestateusa.com/...

      In 2011 a Florida Highway Patrol officer pulled over and cuffed a miami police officer for going 120 mph to a second job.
      The FHP officer was harassed by other cops.

      "After filing a public records request with the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, Watts discovered that her personal information had been pulled up by scores of officers from 25 different jurisdictions. Her data had been accessed more than 200 times total."

  4. Re:No - it wasnt useful by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of the news stations in Columbus Ohio did a story on something similar. They framed it as electronic distractions but highlighted an enormous amount of cop cars involved in accidents showing dashcam footage of cops plowing through crosswalks hitting people and such. There is a law about texting and driving but the chief said that the cops were exempt because they are trained professionals.

    What it boils down to is there are laws for us and law for them.

  5. A little help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Full Name: Ivan Javier Ortiz Also Known As Ivan Javier Ortiz Javier Javi Ortiz Age: 50 Born in, Miami, FL ZodiacSign: Sagittarius Email: Ortiz@FOPmiami.com connected to: http://klout.com/JavierOrtizFO... (USN: JavierOrtizFOP) stsmp@gmail.com javiero@cinci.rr.com javior1@hotmail.com stsmp@hotmail.com Work Summary: President at Fraternal Order of Police Title: Sergeant Work: City Of Miami Location: 1000 NW 62nd St, Miami, FL 33150 Numbers: 305-854-5019 COMMON LANGUAGE Location Identifier Code: MIAMFLBA85E Operating Company Number: 9417 305-795-2300 Previous Jobs: Sergeant Of Police Vice President MiamiFOP President Miami Beach FOP Webmaster Miami Beach FOP President Fraternal Order Of Police Spokesman Fraternal Order Of Police Union President Fraternal Order Of Police ; President Of FOP City: Miami Zip/Postal: 33184-2467 State/Province: Florida Country: US Home Address: 12195 SW 10th ST Miami, FL 33184-2467 APT3 25Â45'32.8"N 80Â23'31.2"W Property Value: $107, 220.00 Taxes: $323.00 Other Listed Address: 1021 SW 88th CT Miami, FL 33174-3269 --- 131 SW 18th AVE Miami, FL 33135-2097 -- 2075 SW 122nd AVE Miami, FL 33175 -- 13509 SW 27th ST Miami, FL 33175-6624 - 400 NW 2nd ST Miami, FL 33129 Phone Numbers: (305) 219-4729 (305) 225-1340 (786) 290-1183(AT&T/MetroPCS) Tiffany Zwick AKA Tiffany Calderon Age: 32 Girlfriend of Javier Ortiz from Miami FOP(Officer who DOX'd innocent civilian for pulling over a Miami FL officer.) Home Address: 7331 63 Rd Miami, FL 33143 786-268-7272 786-715-4008(cell) Relatives Laura Suhanov 63yo Alexandria Zwick 36yo Barbara Labrador 43yo Works at: BeachFront Realty Inc 18205 Biscayne BLVD Ste 2205 North Miami Beach, Florida 33160 Work Phone: 305-405-0615 Fax: 305-305-9331

  6. Re:No - it wasnt useful by SylvesterTheCat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is a law about texting and driving but the chief said that the cops were exempt because they are trained professionals.

    That's interesting. I would counter to the chief that because they are allowed to do something the general public is not allowed to do (as a result of being "trained professionals"), the consequences to them should be higher than the general public rather than being exempt.

    The same way that we hold licensed engineer professionals to higher standards, law enforcement should be held to a higher standard with higher rewards for demonstrated competence and higher punishments for demonstrated failure.

    On a related note, what exactly is it that makes these "trained professionals" better at texting while driving than the general public? Do they go through specialized training where they learn techniques of scanning the road while manipulating the phone? Do they go through a practical exercise and exam that involves a closed course with obstacles and are graded to a time standard and number of cones that can be hit? I am really curious about this.

  7. Re:No - it wasnt useful by William+Baric · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, "an eye for an eye" doesn't leave the whole world blind.

    "An eye for an eye" is a naturally accepted form of justice. If I slap someone for no reason, I won't be shocked if I'm slapped back with the same level of force. "An eye for an eye" is a concept so natural that being slapped back is a possibility I will always consider. I may have a feeling of frustration if I'm slapped back, but I won't have a feeling of injustice. This means I won't have a desire for revenge if I'm slapped back.

    Of course, I never slap someone for no reason. If I slap someone, it's because I want to take control and partially submit the other person to my will. If I'm slapped back, it obviously means my attempt to take control failed. Because of that, I may be tempted to increase the level of violence in order to accomplish my initial goal of taking control. But this new violence I will initiate won't be the results of a feeling of injustice, it won't be the result of a desire for revenge, it will be only the consequence of having failed the first time. I may feel frustration after a failed attempt, but frustration is a lot less powerful a feeling of injustice.

    Second, initiating violence is generally a rational action. If I slapped someone with the goal of taking control, it's because I believe my action might be successful. If I'm slapped back (if my first attempt fail), I might decide to increase the level of violence, but again this behavior is rational. The moment I will judge my actions have no chance of success, the moment I believe the price I might pay because of my action is superior to what I might gain, I will stop initiating violence. I won't continue violence until the whole world is blind, I will stop violence when I see no gain.

    The justice system works not because it avoids using the concept of "an eye for an eye", it works because the justice system is extremely powerful and the "victim" of the justice system can't do anything about it. Any form of violence against the justice system is doomed to fail. The justice system could use the "an eye for an eye" system and it will work as well.

    The main reason society dropped the concept of an eye for an eye because "justice" is not the goal of the justice system. The goal of the justice system is to do what is best for the system we call "society". The justice system is about order, it is not about justice. This means that if we want justice, we have to do it ourselves. And that's what a lot of people do.

  8. Javier Ortiz Dox by Cito · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://ghostbin.com/paste/v8g...