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Disney Asking Employees To Help Fund Copyright Lobbying (arstechnica.com)

NormalVisual writes: Disney is now asking its employees to chip in to promote the company's copyright agenda via the company's political action committee, DisneyPAC. CEO Bob Iger has sent a letter to the company's employees lauding the company's success with the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement and the recent Supreme Court decision regarding the video service Aereo -- an Internet service claiming the right to retransmit [Disney's] broadcast signals without paying copyright or retransmission consent fees. Iger also expresses the company's hope that DisneyPAC will be able to influence Congress in regards to lowering corporate tax rates. Not surprisingly, the company refuses to comment on the initiative.

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  1. why not just get the foreign workers to pay for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    get the new foreign workers to pay for it all as part of their contracts.

    why on earth would employees want to fund this? it's a company issue, not an employee issue

  2. disgusting by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The idea that legislation needs "funding" is odious in unto itself.

  3. Re:Isn't that illegal? by srmalloy · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TFA:

    US corporations are allowed to solicit political contributions as long as donations aren't coerced. The relevant law bars any "threat of a detrimental job action, the threat of any other financial reprisal, or the threat of force" when asking for donations.

    Also from TFA, the letter explicitly states "Your contribution is important to all of us, but I want to emphasize that all contributions are voluntary and have no impact on your job status, performance review, compensation, or employment." and "Any amount given or the decision not to give will not advantage or disadvantage you." How much of that is going to be reflected in practice -- Disney using other 'justifications' for giving a worker crappier shifts, keep them from receiving performance awards, etc. -- to create a de facto but not de jure requirement to contribute has yet to be seen

  4. Subvert the Constitution by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lets just be clear, Disney's stated goal towards Copyright Law is to Subvert the U.S. Constitution and see that the clause where works eventually pass into Public Domain (a benefit the public is to receive in return for giving Copyright Protection to Authors) never actually applies.

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    1. Re:Subvert the Constitution by BronsCon · · Score: 2

      No, that AC's plan does actually seem to account for that by charging 20% of the declared value (a declaration which has tax ramifications; worse ones if, during an IRS audit, you are found to have made such a declaration in bad faith) to fund the Copyright Office and provide grants for the creation of new works. Ostensibly, works created under those grants would fall into the public domain immediately, as The People already paid for them via the grant. Additionally, if extension fees are funding the Copyright Office, our tax dollars won't be; that is another net benefit of such a policy.

      As for yoru apparent fear that these extensions would be abused, consider that 14-21 years is a damn sight better than the current situation. Also consider that if 20% of the value of the copyright over the prior 7 years of profit is more than the company is willing to spend, that is likely because they don't think they'll make more than that over the next 7, which, let's admit, is the common scenario; that is to say, most copyrights won't see extensions filed under such a system.

      Given the above, I can support the idea as-is. Lower the initial term to 7 years and include a provision to allow the Copyright Office to deny extension requests for low-value, no-value, or negative-value works, request proof of declared value when they think someone's pulling their leg, and deny extensions (and report to the IRS) if such proof is not provided or the proof tells a different story, and I'll fund the campaign.

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  5. Not a surprising request but unreasonable by mykepredko · · Score: 5, Informative

    While a corporation should and needs to protect it's assets and petition sitting governments on various, I think it's a) inappropriate to monetarily support candidates and b) coerce employees to support and contribute to the cause. In the '80s, when I was working for IBM, they sent a letter to all (Canadian, at least) employees telling them to support NAFTA which I (and many of my coworkers) thought was inappropriate but the company felt that it was in its best interests to do this.

    The situation is even more despicable when it comes to Disney, who clearly don't seem to care about their employees and really not good corporate citizens. There maybe honour & prestige working for Disney but if there is an option to reduce their costs, they will clearly take it, current employees be damned.

    1. Re:Not a surprising request but unreasonable by TarPitt · · Score: 2

      "Disney, who clearly don't seem to care about their employees" has led to employees using the nickname "mauschwitz" to describe their employer. Yes, Disney's reputation is that bad.

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  6. Re: Isn't that illegal? by DaMattster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unfortunately, no it isn't illegal. I worked at a company once that did this all of the time. It came through email in a company bulletin so I just created an Outlook rule for these emails to go to junk. The way I see it, I'm not going to read propaganda that looks and reads eerily similarly to what the Chinese Communist Party churns out. I don't want to align my personal agenda with that of my employer's because the net benefit is to my employer and not to me. I don't want to help my employer to manipulate the legal system in their favor.

  7. Re:Isn't that illegal? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

    In a practical sense, no.

    There are many regulations about free speech, but particular political views can be a condition of employment in private enterprises in most states. See breakdowns of worker political rights such as http://www.workplacefairness.o..., and review the history of corporations breaking up union activities by both subtle pressure and physical violence throughout American history.

    Even if political support is "voluntary", the absence of a vocal support of leadership's views on politics, race, religion, gender, age, or sexuality have often been subtle workplace hindrances or benefits to salary and promotions.

  8. Re:Isn't that illegal? by GNious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From TFA:

    US corporations are allowed to solicit political contributions as long as donations aren't coerced. The relevant law bars any "threat of a detrimental job action, the threat of any other financial reprisal, or the threat of force" when asking for donations.

    My former employer, as US company, had us attend an event with customers, where we would be sitting at tables 8 people mixed employees and customers, and there would be a collection going around for a charity.
    When I declined to contribute, things got pretty chilly at the table; people were in shock that I wasn't donating my private earnings towards a charity in order to make my employer look good.

    Yeah, it wasn't political, and it wasn't direct threats, but I have never felt as shitty about a job as I did right there and then ... it was also the moment I realized I loathed that particular employer.

  9. Re:Corporation lobbies for shareholders? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    and if you are not in a positions to quit and vote with your feet, what? Suck it up?

    Fuck you.

    If you want to know what Disney is like, go see South Park's "The Ring" episode or ask anybody who's ever worked for them just how evil they are. Example: they financially screwed and lied about Robin Williams for years. Finally, when the Mouse decided the NEEDED Williams, the new boss apologizes and all is supposed to be well. Now imagine what they get away with on people without that kind of star power...

    "You realize now when you work for Disney why the mouse has only four fingers -- because he can’t pick up a check." -- Robin Williams.

    http://boingboing.net/2014/08/13/the-time-disney-duped-robin-wi.html

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/12/the-genie-is-free-robin-williams-s-complicated-relationship-with-disney.html

    http://www.businessinsider.com/robin-williams-disney-feud-picasso-gift-2014-11

    Immoral and pure greedhead: Disney is they name...

  10. We need Stricter Copyright by wisnoskij · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did you know, Charles Perrault's family, etc. all, have not received a cent of royalties from the Disney corporation for their copying of their stories.

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  11. Re:Isn't that illegal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I worked for NCR, HR would go around with paycheck deduction forms to contribute to the United Way - in the name of NCR.

    See, the CEO gets the credit for the donations and it boosts his reputation and networking. The United Way is just one big networking system for the CEOs.

    I would throw the form into the trash.

    Never give money to charities - especially national or international charities. The biggest bang for your buck is to help someone in need close to you. I would drive folks to doctors who couldn't drive themselves. And being a professional, taking time out from your schedule is a much larger sacrifice than writing a check.

    I also learned how the "other half" lives and how lucky I am and grateful for all the gifts and opportunities that were handed to me. Sure I work hard, but so does everyone. But my hard work means more because I was born lucky enough to have the talents and opportunities to work in a relatively lucrative career.

  12. IP solution by wheeda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here is my ideal IP solution. All IP (patents and copyright) must state a value. Any value at all. The owner of the IP then pays intellectual property tax a some rate. If someone else really wants that IP, they can pay the owner the stated amount and the IP becomes public domain.

    This solves all kinds of issues including orphaned works, patent trolls, and the likes of Disney tying up copyrighted works that should have entered the public domain decades ago. Well, maybe Disney could still tie up copyrighted works, but at least it would cost them to the benefit of tax payers.

  13. Won't H1Bs have to register as foreign lobbyists? by swb · · Score: 2

    I thought foreigners who wanted the lobby the government had to register?

  14. Please Help Us Fund Copyright Lobbying... by Fluffymuffin+Cocobut · · Score: 2

    ...as we continue to outsource as many of your jobs as possible. Buy DisneyABCPixar: Buy Outsourced.

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  15. Legal in US and sycophants like it. by jbn-o · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sadly, as right thinking as your reaction is most /. readers don't agree with your take with regard to Disney's actions here and don't have the guts to admit they don't agree. Their unprincipled obeisance to Disney's power is unlike some posters to the Ars Technica (Condé Nast) forum on this story who object publicly such as user "SmokeTest":

    Yeah, because Disney totally can't afford lobbying unless they go to their workers with their hands out, and the state of copyright in the country is incredibly hostile to Disney. Of course they need to go to their lowest paid employees and ask them to fund their effort to further corrupt the laws to line the pockets of the executives with more cash than ever.

    This is fucking disgusting. I'm done supporting Disney in any way, forever. Going to be hard not watching the new Star Wars movies in theaters, but man, this shit has got to end.

    Power-for-power's-sake supporting /.ers will pay to see the next Star Wars movie, visit Disney theme parks, buy Disney-licensed merchandise of all kinds and thus feed the system that oppresses the world via copyright and TPP. This fight goes far beyond the term of copyright both in who is affected and specific powers multinational corporations seek to gain.

  16. Re:Isn't that illegal? by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 2

    Remember that ridiculous Ice Bucket Challenge.

    What? I loved it, watching famous people dump ice water on their heads was fun!

    Of course watching idiots do it and fail was also fun.

    I'm neither famous nor an idiot, so I didn't do it because it is just entertainment for me.

    But it was still fun!

  17. Re:Isn't that illegal? by SeaFox · · Score: 2

    My former employer, as US company, had us attend an event with customers, where we would be sitting at tables 8 people mixed employees and customers, and there would be a collection going around for a charity.
    When I declined to contribute, things got pretty chilly at the table; people were in shock that I wasn't donating my private earnings towards a charity in order to make my employer look good.

    Little late now, but you could have responded that you already contribute to the charity outside of the company. A lie? Yes. But it wouldn't have been one they could have proven or held against you.

  18. Re:Isn't that illegal? by St.Creed · · Score: 2

    Because we'd never use another mod again, I fear.

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  19. Somewhat off topic but by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... we also had one homosexual guy that would make a speech at the kickoff meeting each time about how United Way was basically evil and we shouldn't give them a dime. The reasoning was that the United Way funded the boy scouts and the boy scouts didn't allow gay members.

    I wonder if he changed his opinion when the Scouts decided to allow gays or if he still hates them and looked for other new targets to hate on. The trouble with SJW in my opinion is that they only destroy, they never create. For example they want to destroy the Scouts but they won't create another organization that did the good the Scouts did. They instead move on to destroy the next group that offends them. Like locusts.

    1. Re:Somewhat off topic but by Alypius · · Score: 2

      Being an activist means always having to have something to complain about.

  20. Re:why not just get the foreign workers to pay for by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because greed. Duh.

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  21. Re:Isn't that illegal? by Alypius · · Score: 4, Funny

    My wife guilted me into doing it, but I was admittedly confused because no one else had to hold a toaster.

  22. Re:If you object, there is an H1B to take your pla by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Globalism is great. If, and only if, it benefits the corporation. Or could you tell me why I can't buy a BluRay in South East Asia where they cost a buck a piece?

    It's ok for them to ship our jobs there. But it's not ok for us to ship the products made here. Care to explain that?

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  23. Re: Isn't that illegal? by phorm · · Score: 2

    "managers got reports of who contributed and who didn't"

    If they do allow it, then it should be like voting: nobody knows if you did donate or how much. Anything else is subject to abuse even if they say they're just "asking"