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High-Tech 'Bazooka' Fires a Net To Take Down Drones (bgr.com)

An anonymous reader writes: The brainchild of U.K.-based OpenWorks Engineering, SkyWall 100 uses a compressed air launcher to fire smart projectiles at targeted drones. The system, which has a range of 328 feet, uses a high-tech scope to lock on to Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs). An onboard computer then tracks the target's flight path and calculates the trajectory required for the projectile to intercept either a hovering or flying drone. The canister-style projectile opens up when it reaches the drone and uses a net to capture the flying device. The projectile then deploys a parachute to bring the captured drone and the canister components safely back to the ground. "Once captured it can be impounded, forensically investigated or simply handed back with some words of education where appropriate," OpenWorks Engineering explained, adding that the risk of damaging the drone is also reduced.

180 comments

  1. Just use a shotgun by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1) Cheap
    2) Birdshot won't kill anyone
    3) You don't have to worry as much about the "return of property" or "educate the user" hassles afterword

    1. Re:Just use a shotgun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq0oCM37oZA
      Use lots of shotguns. And make sure you have lots of ammo.

    2. Re:Just use a shotgun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A radio jammer would be better.

    3. Re: Just use a shotgun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I found the drone pilot and shot him in the face with a shotgun. The drone crashed which is great, but what do I do with the body???

    4. Re: Just use a shotgun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I found the drone pilot and shot him in the face with a shotgun. The drone crashed which is great, but what do I do with the body???

      Eat it.

    5. Re:Just use a shotgun by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      A radio jammer would be better.

      And likely even more illegal than the drone.

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    6. Re:Just use a shotgun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And when you're trying to control a drone over a crowd you just yell "heads up everyone!" and start firing away?

      Genius.

    7. Re:Just use a shotgun by Catmeat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree completely. drones are fairly delicate so even the finest grade of birdshot would do enough damage to bring one down. However gun laws make shotguns an issue in the UK. The police are generally happy to give out licenses to people without criminal records, who can prove a need for one, either for sport or for work.

      However, imagine there was a huge A-lister wedding happening at some outdoor location, like a remote Scottish castle. The organizers would be desperate to keep away the public's and the paparazzi's drones (there'll be a buyer for the pictures already lined up, who will want exclusivity).

      However, I would suspect there would be liability, police and major PR issues of they ringed the event with shotgun-armed security people. This kit is an alternative that seems just what's needed. Security would quietly bring down the pap's drone and hand it back to its owner, along with their profuse apologies for "accidentally" standing one it when it was being recovered.

    8. Re:Just use a shotgun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      either for sport or for work.

      Drone trap shooting!

    9. Re:Just use a shotgun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no idea how American you are.

    10. Re:Just use a shotgun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. Why use expensive technology when a 300 year old shotgun solution is cheaper and more effective?

    11. Re:Just use a shotgun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better, is to look around for the asshat who is flying the thing and use the birdshot on him.

    12. Re:Just use a shotgun by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq0oCM37oZA
      Use lots of shotguns. And make sure you have lots of ammo.

      Depends on the skill levels of both shooter and pilot, distance, whether or not the drone pilot sees the shooter with enough warning...

      To be honest, it would be not much more than a slightly more complex version of skeet shooting, or a typical pheasant hunt at a slightly longer range, since drones are still somewhat subject to aerodynamics - In other words, completely doable.

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    13. Re:Just use a shotgun by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

      Silly boy. You don't yell "heads up everyone!," you yell "Terrorist!"

      That way there's no question about your motives (you are saving these people from an attack), and if someone should accidentally be hit by debris, it's all in the name of security.

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    14. Re:Just use a shotgun by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Yeah, would have the FCC and the FAA after your butt.

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    15. Re:Just use a shotgun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh noes, it's illegal!

      Yeah, that'll stop me for sure.

  2. Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by germansausage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know why, but news organizations everywhere do this and it makes me want to stab them over and over with a fondue fork. Somebody said it had a range of about 100 m. Somebody else converted it to feet, without any thought that this was an approximate measurement. About 100 m is about 300 feet, or maybe about 350 feet, but it is not 328 feet.

    1. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      or at least say 100 yards.

    2. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by khchung · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Significant figures is probably too deep a concept to be taught to journalist majors.

      Ditto for the fact that using yards for meters would be better for approximate conversions.

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    3. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Calydor · · Score: 1

      It goes the other way, too. I am so frustrated when 'a mile down the road' gets translated to literally 1.61 km. Just say one and a half, dammit.

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    4. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by drew_kime · · Score: 1

      That's why body temperature is 98.6 degrees F. It was 37 C in the original study, which correctly reported error bars. But it showed up in US medical texts as 98.6 and now moms freak out if their precious snowflake is 99.0.

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    5. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by cdrudge · · Score: 2

      To be fair though, those same moms would freak out if their precious snowflake was 37.2 degrees C when they should only be 37 degrees C.

    6. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by parkinglot777 · · Score: 2

      Somebody said it had a range of about 100 m. Somebody else converted it to feet, without any thought that this was an approximate measurement. About 100 m is about 300 feet, or maybe about 350 feet, but it is not 328 feet.

      Have to remove mod point and want to point out something...

      Approximation is nice, but you are a bit off in number. What you said is that 1 yard is approximately equal to 1 meter. That's about 10% off. 1 meter is longer than 1 yard. Now let's see. 1 yard is 3 feet. 1 foot is 12 inches. 1 inch is around 2.54 cm. So 100 meter would be around 328 feet ((10000/2.54) / 12).

      TFA said it is about 100m which is already an approximation. If you approximate an approximation, it could lead to something difference (tend to be worse than better). In this case, 28 feet (~10%) to me is quite different...

    7. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      "Journalists" do this because they think the American public is too stupid to use metric so everything needs to be converted to imperial. They Google "how many feet is 100 meters", get 328.084 feet, chop off the decimal (because Americans are too stupid for decimal places too), and report this as the exact distance.

      By the way, I use the quotes around the word journalists because people who do this aren't real journalists. Sadly, real journalists are becoming rarer and rarer. Most people who call themselves journalists today just take a press release or AP/Reuters wire story, tweak a few words, and publish it. These "journalists" are like script kiddies who download a program, point it at a website, break in, and declare themselves an uber hacker. They might call themselves something (hacker/journalist), but their lack of actual skills shows that they really aren't what they say they are.

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    8. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      My wife and I freaked out when our youngest hit 99, but we had good reason. He's had a ton of febrile seizures - including one where he turned grey, stopped breathing and didn't start up again until after he had rescue breaths administered. (Scariest moment of my life, by the way.) We knew his body temperature tended on the low side so 99 meant he was beginning to get a fever and we needed to act fast to make sure he didn't experience another seizure.

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    9. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

      328.083989.........

      because math!!!

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    10. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Do you know how amazingly mad I'd be if I fired this and the drone ended up being 328.09 feet away?

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    11. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

      I would be super pissed, especially if it only went up 99 meters

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    12. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Why do you have a Fondue fork?

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    13. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by arth1 · · Score: 1

      No you're still wrong. About 100m is ABOUT 328 feet. Yes 300ft is a good round approximation but when you are nick picking estimations, its best to have equivalent figures, not arbitrarily subtract 10% because it makes a nice even number.

      You make the mistake of inflating significant figures. About 100 m really only has a single significant digit. By converting to feet, take care not to introduce more significant figures. 328 feet implies a higher precision. Much higher, both because you increase the significant number of digits from 1 to 3, and also because a foot is a higher precision measurement in the first place.
      "About 330 feet" is better, but "about 300-350 feet" might be a far more better translation of the meaning, by not introducing a false accuracy.

    14. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      1 inch is around 2.54 cm.

      Actually, 1 inch is exactly 2.54 cm, according to the NIST.

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    15. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      About 100 m is about 300 feet, or maybe about 350 feet, but it is not 328 feet.

      I'd say the best approximation is either 110 yards, or 325 feet (yes, they're different). 110 yards has about the right mount of significance from a decimal point of view. 325 looks like a round number, much more so than either 320 or 330.

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    16. Re: Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      My wife and I freaked out when our youngest hit 99

      By any chance is his name Benjamin Button? :)

    17. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well the problem is that you don't actually know how many significant figures there are in "100 meters". It could be 1x10^2 or 1.000x10^2.

      So no matter what you do it'll be wrong, may as well be wrong the easy way (convert the exact value given) instead of the slightly more complex way (make some assumptions about the measurement methodology and defend them when someone inevitably challenges them).

    18. Re: Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      I can't believe none of you have figured out the significance of the "328 feet" figure. Like a taser, its projectile (net) is clearly tethered... in this case with a Cat5 cable.

    19. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Tharkkun · · Score: 1

      "Journalists" do this because they think the American public is too stupid to use metric so everything needs to be converted to imperial. They Google "how many feet is 100 meters", get 328.084 feet, chop off the decimal (because Americans are too stupid for decimal places too), and report this as the exact distance.

      By the way, I use the quotes around the word journalists because people who do this aren't real journalists. Sadly, real journalists are becoming rarer and rarer. Most people who call themselves journalists today just take a press release or AP/Reuters wire story, tweak a few words, and publish it. These "journalists" are like script kiddies who download a program, point it at a website, break in, and declare themselves an uber hacker. They might call themselves something (hacker/journalist), but their lack of actual skills shows that they really aren't what they say they are.

      Americans are quite intelligent. We learn both the metric and the old imperial system. We don't dumb our brains down to only learn a system based on 10's. Why did you have to google this number when most Americans can do it in their head?

    20. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Two things:

      1) I'm American as well. I learned both systems, but the Imperial system is the one used in day-to-day life so it's easy for adults to forget the metric units unless they use them consistently. (e.g. They work as a physicist and constantly reference units in metric.) Honestly, I don't remember most Imperial->Metric conversions by heart so I use Google to refresh my memory whenever I need to.

      2) My comment was about journalists assuming that Americans would be baffled by metric units. Even if most Americans wouldn't know offhand exactly how many feet 100 meters was, they would have a general idea of the distance. If more news articles stuck to metric, people would get used to the measurements and would adjust. Unfortunately, the media loves pandering to the lowest common denominator and they (the media) assumes that they (the lowest common denominator) can't be bothered to wrap their brain around complex concepts like different measurement systems.

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    21. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And interestingly, in my head I translate 328 feet to "about the length of a(n American) football field"

    22. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      [Citation needed]

      When NIST drops the degrees from degrees Celsius then so will I. Until then, I'll still continue to refer to individual temperatures on the Celsius scale as degrees Celsius.

    23. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      A 10% difference is one more digit of precision, which isn't warranted here.

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    24. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

      A 10% difference is one more digit of precision, which isn't warranted here.

      Depends on what you are talking about. In other words, sometimes the ACTUAL NUMBER is MORE important that the RATIO, and vice versa. Also, for some people, actual number is more important than ratio, and vice versa. In this case, to me, 28 feet are quite significant in distance compared to 300 feet.

    25. Re:Exactly 328.000 feet, not 1 inch more by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Yes, but you don't know whether that 28 feet are real or not. 300 feet is about 90m, and if I were thinking "about 75-125m", I'd likely express it as about 100m, which includes 90m. 330 feet would imply about 97-103m, which may be a lot more precise than is warranted. If it turned out that the range is 90m, it wouldn't surprise the person who read "about 100m", while it would surprise the person who read "about 330 feet".

      Round numbers typically don't translate well between measuring systems.

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  3. The FAA doesn't like such things by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now that the FAA is referring to even tiny 9-ounce plastic toys as aircraft that require a permit to operate even for recreation, this introduces some conflicts. The FAA doesn't generally like interference with aircraft. In that context, downing a four pound GoPro-equipped UAS taking landscape photos isn't really any different than shooting down a Cessna. The FAA needs to sort out its language in this area.

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    1. Re: The FAA doesn't like such things by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      link?

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    4. Re:The FAA doesn't like such things by fred911 · · Score: 1

      It's a little stronger than "doesn't like", it's against federal law.

      18 USC ss 32
      (a) Whoever willfully

      (1) sets fire to, damages, destroys, disables, or wrecks any aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States or any civil aircraft used, operated, or employed in interstate, overseas, or foreign air commerce; ...shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years or both.

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    8. Re: The FAA doesn't like such things by fred911 · · Score: 1

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      https://www.law.cornell.edu/us...

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    52. Re:The FAA doesn't like such things by drew_kime · · Score: 1

      I don't think many consumer-grade drones are going to be "employed in interstate, overseas, or foreign air commerce".

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    53. Re:The FAA doesn't like such things by operagost · · Score: 1

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  4. Amazing but... by jsse · · Score: 2

    Why not just intercepts the intruder drone with other drone?

  5. Use a bigger drone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My drone can easily battle and take out rival drones.

    1. Re: Use a bigger drone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Idz unity.

    2. Re: Use a bigger drone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But my brother and daughter r already dead so kill me. Jill me please

  6. Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Once captured it can be impounded, forensically investigated or simply handed back with some words of education where appropriate," -- or words of apology, where appropriate.

  7. my drone's better than your drone by turkeydance · · Score: 0

    my drone's better than yours. my drone's better 'cause it fires Take Down. my drone's better than yours.

  8. Manslaughter waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well that parachute won't work perfectly reliably, and you're shooting a projectile 100m which definitely WILL come down with a crunch, so that is a manslaughter charge and lawsuit waiting to happen.

    Why wouldn't you simply follow the drone to its origin and charge the owner with whatever crime he's accused of committing, he then fights or accepts the charge in a court, you know... due process we use to call it in the good old days.

    That stops any Community Support officer deciding that a drone watching a football match is an invasion of the football matches privacy. Shooting his net, it landing on some spectators, choking or blinding them.

    1. Re:Manslaughter waiting by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      police don't face manslaughter charges for collateral damage when stopping crime. ask any car crash victim during a high speed chase.

    2. Re:Manslaughter waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not a crime to fly a drone.

    3. Re:Manslaughter waiting by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      police don't face manslaughter charges for collateral damage when stopping crime. ask any car crash victim during a high speed chase.
      In my country they do.

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    4. Re:Manslaughter waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Police might have immunity from criminal charges if they were explicitly authorized to give chase, but if an innocent person gets caught in the crossfire, the police department is civilly liable for damages; something a big government-backed organization can afford, but Joe Drone-Hunter cannot.

    5. Re:Manslaughter waiting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      police don't face manslaughter charges for collateral damage when stopping crime. ask any car crash victim during a high speed chase.
      In my country they do.

      Humm....sounds like the UK is where you live. The UK has laws against everything except living

    6. Re:Manslaughter waiting by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      police don't face manslaughter charges for collateral damage when stopping crime. ask any car crash victim during a high speed chase.

      They do however face civil litigation, and many (if not most) states nowadays require police to back off of a high-speed chase if there is a significant danger of harm to innocent bystanders.

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  9. Now to have drones that can kill this thing. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Then have countermeasures available to deflect the anti-drone measure.

    If caught, record and remotely save footage that helps identify the vandal who decided to take down a drone.

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  10. Trap Shooting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That sure looks like a really expensive 12 gauge shotgun.

  11. The article is about a drone... by tlambert · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A radio jammer would be better.

    The article is about a drone, not about an RPV.

    Yeah, I know: people who do not fly the things, and want everyone else to also not fly the things, can't tell the difference between a "drone" and a "remotely piloted vehicle".

    Here's a clue: drones can operate autonomously or semiautonomously, and won't stop what they are doing if you try to jam the radio signals they aren't using when they are flying in autonomous mode, and will just switch to autonomous mode if they are operating semiautonomously and someone turns on a jammer.

    And you know, if they were military drones, and they encountered a jammer, they might just target it and kamikaze.

    1. Re: The article is about a drone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good. Jammers are cheap. Drones are not.

    2. Re: The article is about a drone... by tlambert · · Score: 1

      Good. Jammers are cheap. Drones are not.

      Terrorists with jammers are also cheap, so I suppose you have a point.

    3. Re:The article is about a drone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      EMP then.

    4. Re:The article is about a drone... by tlambert · · Score: 3, Insightful

      EMP then.

      You mean like the ones we use to shoot down planes, because they have avionics systems too?

      Oh wait. We're not on "Scorpion" or "Mutant X" or "The Flash", and we're not "Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D."... we know that it takes a nuclear weapon or a massive amount of equipment, like at the Rocky Mountain Weapons Test Facility, because of the inverse square law...

    5. Re:The article is about a drone... by bkr1_2k · · Score: 3, Informative

      You obviously don't work with these things. First, the actual linked article says "UAV", not "drone". Second, "drone" doesn't mean what you think it means. Drones (except possibly those that are intended to be targets for weapons combat tests) aren't actually "autonomous". And a jammer most definitely does have an impact. It may not mean the drone the stops functioning but it absolutely WILL mean that the drone leaves the area in all but a couple of instances.

      And, as far as I know, after working with them for 20+ years now, there are no drones that would "kamikaze" a jammer. That's a ridiculous waste of resources. UAVs that lose radio comms resort to a return home function, or in a few cases a self destruct depending upon the situation and other airworthiness factors. None of them become bombs.

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    6. Re:The article is about a drone... by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      No I think he doesn't mean EMP at all but something more like a HERF gun.

      Similar concept, cause a flood of EM waves that induce currents where currents should not be and cause sensitive, unshielded electronics to malfunction catastrophically.

      Not sure what the range on them is, but I would assume most drones are not that well shielded against something like this, and if they get close enough, it could even set their plastic bits on fire.... though... pretty sure at that range you could smack it with a broom handle.

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    7. Re:The article is about a drone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original use of the word drone was absolutely a device that could be autonomous. But yes, it has gotten watered down over the years by idiots calling hobby quadcopters "drones".

    8. Re: The article is about a drone... by Type44Q · · Score: 2

      ...we're not "Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D."

      What are you, my shrink??I'll decide what I am and am not, thank you very much.

    9. Re:The article is about a drone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder what this thing could do to my 2-engine fighter jet giant model.

    10. Re: The article is about a drone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well a military drone would not actually kamikaze it'd fire a missile. Still fastly more expensive than a jammer, but presumably you also kill suff around the jammer with some value to make up for it.

    11. Re:The article is about a drone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A drone cannot navigate if it is jammed.

    12. Re: The article is about a drone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should try researching actual RPAs.

    13. Re: The article is about a drone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes but that still doesn't mean you WILL be

      I think you definitely need to talk to this shrink of yours. Your decision is completely irrelevant to what you actually are.

  12. "Once captured it can be..." by tlambert · · Score: 2

    "Once captured it can be..." reprogrammed and armed with explosives, in order to carry out a different mission than its owner intended. Yay, for capture devices!

    1. Re:"Once captured it can be..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Once captured it can be..." reprogrammed and armed with explosives, then returned to its owner. Yay, for capture devices!

      FTFY

  13. Useless against a swarm of cheap "wingman" drones. by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All of these ideas are over engineered yet lame, do the designers even role play possible scenarios before starting on a design? Haven't any of them seen these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?... or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?... A $1000 solution that is countered by a swarm of $20 drones is useless. Wouldn't it be easier to have a way of deploying a large number of small cheap drones with tangle lines and pull-out parachutes? You just launch them one after the other until all of your targets are eliminated. Given the noise (both types) that comes from a drone they probably could be auto targeting too if they have a neural network trained to ignore their own noise profile, therefore moronic assumptions like the target not moving are not required. Nothing could get away from something as fast as this this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  14. Lowrider jumping style. by aliquis · · Score: 1

    I just wonder when they will make the drone equivalent of a lowrider with extra bouncing capability to counter this...

  15. Joseph Heller invented it first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or at least, better variation on the same idea. (Think long web like strands:)

    'The new three-hundred-and-forty-four-millimeter Lepage glue gun,' Yossarian answered. 'It glues a whole formation of planes together in mid-air.'

    - Catch 22, chapter 12

  16. Countermeasures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If my remote controlled helicopter happens to burst into flames when its blades get tangled in your net and lands on your bushes setting them on fire, don't blame me. It was operating normally until you interfered with it. Uncontrolled parachute drops are not a good thing. This thing is dangerous, especially if it just clips a drone and doesn't get entangled.

    If someone accidentally tosses a ball into your yard you're not allowed to destroy it. If someone uses something like this against my helicopter I'll have you up on attempted theft charges or actual theft if you manage to get to it before I do.

    Oh, well now that I read the article this device is just for police. It'll probably be illegal for us to have one. I one how long till they start selling missiles for it.

    1. Re:Countermeasures by Kkloe · · Score: 1

      You will probably not be charged for the damage on the crash but you will be charged for flying it illegally over a place and\or endangering people where this kind of anti-measure is required.

    2. Re:Countermeasures by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      "required."

      I'm not sure that word means what you think it means.

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      Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    3. Re:Countermeasures by Kkloe · · Score: 1

      http://dictionary.reference.co...
      do i know about it know?

  17. Re: The FAA doesn't like such thingsq by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Diz iz

  18. Slashdot is dominated by idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn, how many idiots hanging /. these days... this thread is completely owned by them. Imbeciles posting useless jokes. Sucks.

  19. Significant digits by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1, Redundant

    The system, which has a range of 328 feet

    Wow, that's quite specific.

    I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that 328 feet is what you get if you convert 100 metres to stoopid.

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  20. Re:100m by linuxgurugamer · · Score: 2

    well, I would suspect he was writing for most americans to read. Most americans don't understand the metric system, so, he did the conversion so the readers wouldn't have to. That being the case, what happens if the drone is 329 feet away? And I'm speaking as an american

  21. Alternative use of the net? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    High tech net...
    Wouldn't there be a lot of situations where this would work better than a gun against people?
    Especially at 300 feet away?

  22. New cool toy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not a drone operator's problem, just fly higher than 10o Meters.

    A bazooka that shoots a net would be really cool for crows.

    They would probably figure out the 100 meter rule faster than the drone operator.

  23. Permit required? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think this will fly. I shot a police drone out of the sky and they charged me. What would be different if I shot it out of the sky with this device? (The shot gun is cheaper:)

  24. Add a sensor and dodge by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Add a sensor to the drone that sees the net coming. Program the drone to automatically dodge. Problem solved.

    1. Re:Add a sensor and dodge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like a wonderful idea, you should get on that. Let's see here, it only involves computer vision to be able to recognize the net, figure out it's trajectory in 3d space from all directions simultaneously using the limited processing power on board a small drone, and figuring this all out and reacting in a fraction of a second. Sounds trivial, I trust you'll have a solution which is inexpensive enough to deploy on mid priced consumer drones by the end of the week? /Sarcasm

    2. Re:Add a sensor and dodge by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't need to figure out the trajectory, if it sees movement, fly higher.

    3. Re:Add a sensor and dodge by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      Small problem with that -

      The drone typically has a (very) finite carrying capacity. Folks on the ground are under no such limitations.

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      Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
    4. Re:Add a sensor and dodge by ComputerGeek01 · · Score: 1

      I was thinking a gimballed green gas jet at the bottom of the chassis for a nice vertical boost to get the vehicle out of the way. I wonder if you'd be able to recover a stable flight path after that though? This is fun, it's like a civilian arms race.

    5. Re:Add a sensor and dodge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well you'd at least need to randomize the evasive pattern. If it always ascends the shooter can learn to "aim high" to score a hit unless your juts cruise above the engagement ceiling for the launcher.

  25. Parachute? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

    Why a parachute if all they're going to do is figure out who the idiot is that was flying the drone? You don't need to have the drone be in good condition to figure out who owns it.

    If the drone happens to break as the result of its fall then maybe the idiot shouldn't have had the drone in the area in the first place.

    But I'm sure someone will give an excuse why personal responsibility doesn't enter into the equation.

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    We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
    1. Re:Parachute? by ScentCone · · Score: 1, Informative

      If your car breaks as a result of a crash, is that a sign you shouldn't own one? No? I see.

      Most small UAS platforms run on highly energetic and notoriously fragile LiPo batteries. Falling from even a few meters can be enough to damage them and potentially start a fire that can seriously damage (and even mostly consume) the device in question. If the operator is compliant with the FAA's silly new rules and has his Super Official No Really I Didn't Write Someone Else's On It FAA Registration Number written on the outside as mandated, a LiPo fire could easily destroy that bit of information. A slo-mo parachute-controlled crash would reduce the odds of that happening.

      It's all academic, though. The FAA now considers these to be "aircraft," and federal law prohibits anyone (including the police) from interfering with the operations of a flight - by doing things like shooting at it or forcing it down. There are very, very limited circumstances in which that's allowed (think, flying your gyrocopter through the DC FRZ). But some dude taking landscape photos over a national park? No, the park ranger can't bazooka that down because you're not supposed to fly your 9-ounce toy in federally controlled wilderness. No more than they can shoot down a Cessna.

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  26. If only it were a bit smaller... by shredwurzel · · Score: 1

    Then you could mount it on a drone!

  27. What?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this the apes hour topic? Or has everyone finally gotten enough drugs to saturate their abilitize?

  28. It would be better... by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    to have something that locates/goes after the transmitter, not the drone.

  29. Re:Useless against a swarm of cheap "wingman" dron by Milharis · · Score: 1

    Depends on what you are trying to block. This will not work in a military situation with thousands of small drones, sure, but maybe it's not their market.
    This seems more targeted at "peeping" drones, i.e. a single individual (or a few people) having a single drone each with some video equipment. So a few rather big, rather expensive drones. It might work.

  30. Let the drone arms race begin by vilanye · · Score: 1

    Next will be an anti drone-bazooka device.

  31. There is probably no chance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that this weapon will be used against a person, or persons, in the commission of a crime. So, it is really likely to become available in the UK. .Not.