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Hacking Internet-Connected Trucks and Buses

An anonymous reader writes: Among the things one can find with Shodan, the search engine for the Internet of Things, are trucks, buses and delivery vans that have been equipped with the Telematics Gateway Unit device and a modem to connect to the Internet. What's more, security researcher Jose Carlos Norte says that this setup can be misused by malicious individuals to monitor and control these vehicles -- to discover their position, their speed, and so on, as well as to change some of those parameters, e.g. change the vehicle's route, or put up a geo-fence for it (he says he does not know what such a change would cause).

31 comments

  1. editing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he says he does not now what such a change would cause

    I don't now as well

    1. Re:editing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey now

  2. Pop Quiz Hot shot by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    What do you do? What do you do?

    1. Re:Pop Quiz Hot shot by sexconker · · Score: 1

      I make you read every article in that magazine, including Norman Mailer's latest claptrap about his waning libido.

  3. One likely effect by davidwr · · Score: 1

    (he says he does not now what such a change would cause).

    If he gets caught, and he and the victim are both in the United States, it might "cause" him to be arrested, tried, and convicted. I'm not sure what for, but there's probably some law he's breaking.

    When it comes to stuff like this, only hack your own hardware or get permission from the "victim" first. ESPECIALLY if you do not know what the effects will be.

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    1. Re:One likely effect by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, because security through obscurity is always the better option!

      How about, you know, making sure your "Internet of things" devices are properly secured, and have regular audits of to ensure they aren't compromised?

      How about suing the manufacturer of the device as "Dangerous"? Can't we do that?

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    2. Re:One likely effect by Bearhouse · · Score: 2

      In a just, sensible world, of course you could.
      In our current reality, by buying and activating the thing, you will have of course have "accepted" the EULA which absolves them off all responsibility for absolutely anything, up to and including global warming, shooting your dog, raping your kids and the device being equipped with such hilariously poor security that a blind-drunk Neandertal could crack it with a 1980-era Nokia.

  4. First by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Also putting things on the net isn't always a good thing!

  5. Call Keanu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems like the premise for the next "Speed" sequel is in the bag.

  6. Grasshoppah Say... by thechemic · · Score: 1

    A small hole not mended in time becomes big hole in no time.

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  7. obvious by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Funny

    e.g. change the vehicle's route, or put up a geo-fence for it (he says he does not now what such a change would cause).

    the first use of a geo-fence hack will be used to keep the hacker's in-laws at bay. ;)

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  8. A new era has begun by evolutionary · · Score: 2

    Anyone for a self-driving car? Imagine the possibilities with ransomware. This was actually predicted in the movie "Superman II".

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    1. Re:A new era has begun by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      This was actually predicted in the movie "The Big Bus".

      FTFY

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Bus

    2. Re:A new era has begun by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      what about speed?

    3. Re:A new era has begun by Mogster · · Score: 1

      This was actually predicted in the movie "The Big Bus".

      FTFY

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Bus

      Man I thought I was the only one who remembered that movie - corny as hell but fun to watch

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  9. This sounds illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Surely laws will protect us from any misuse.

  10. Shodan again? by phishybongwaters · · Score: 0

    I keep hearing about this, it's old news, why can't I got 3 hours without hearing about Shodan again?? Is this one of the new sponsors or something? Because the rush to get this, spam for lack of a better word, posted has resulted in, like many others, horribly manged posts. Honestly. If it's a paid add, just mark it as such and be honest.

  11. the logical next step. by nimbius · · Score: 1

    s/Bus 720/Lemon party express!!/

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  12. FUD by NetNed · · Score: 2

    More FUD. The data shown in the article shows only the ignition is controllable buy the TGU, the rest is disconnected. I guess you could fool the unit by saying something is fine when it's not, which could lead to costly repairs. Beyond that, more FUD

    1. Re:FUD by ThatAblaze · · Score: 1

      I second that. More FUDGE please.

  13. Re:This is why the Republicans are pushing... by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    death race 2000 is what happens when the GOP get's there way.

  14. Re: This is why the Republicans are pushing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's just how they be.

  15. AI can overcome this by globaljustin · · Score: 1

    If you extrapolate the growth in processor speed over time, it's clear that in about 20-30 years AI will be unhackable.

    Therefore, we shouldn't even bother trying to defend against hacking now and just focus on AI.

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    1. Re: AI can overcome this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      30 years ago they said AI would become actually intelligent. And yet we are nowhere near that.
      Unhackable? Pfft. That's not even related.

    2. Re: AI can overcome this by globaljustin · · Score: 1

      was being sarcastic...

      i think 'teh singularity' is a ridiculous joke

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  16. Re: This is why the Republicans are pushing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep your nigger talk in Detroit, please.

  17. Fuck Shodan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last time I visited that site it made you register for an account to see anything past the first page of hits. Why should I have to register for his fancy search engine?

  18. Complete FUD and made up claims by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wow the article is so poorly written it's laughable. Plus they did no fact checking at all.

    no you CANT do what they claim, and only 30 minutes with google would have pointed this out to the article writer... instead they took the word of a kiddie at face value.

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  19. Missed my bus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The last one said it was going to Pen Island

  20. This is a common problem by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

    discover their position, their speed, and so on, as well as to change some of those parameters,

    In other news, did you know that you can hack into someone's computer and discover the movements of their mouse, as well as change them? If you write to /dev/mouse it'll move the physical device around on the desk! Well no, I haven't tried it, that would be irresponsible. But the theoretical things that could cause are very scary!

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