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Old Kindles Will Be Disconnected Unless You Update By Tuesday (cnet.com)

An anonymous reader writes: If you have a Kindle device, you must update it before March 22 or else it's going to lose internet connectivity. Losing access to the internet means that you won't be able to use Kindle Store to purchase books, and your device won't be able to sync with the cloud. From a CNET article, "According to Amazon, the update is required to ensure the Kindle remains compliant with continuously evolving industry web standards." These are the devices that need to be updated: Kindle 1st Generation (2007), Kindle 2nd Generation (2009), Kindle DX 2nd Generation (2009), Kindle Keyboard 3rd Generation (2010), Kindle 4th Generation (2011), Kindle 5th Generation (2012), Kindle Touch 4th Generation (2011), and Kindle Paperwhite 5th Generation (2012). If you own a Kindle Paperwhite (6th or 7th Generation), or a Kindle 7th Generation, or a Kindle Voyage 7th Generation, you do not need to worry about the update. And suddenly, Amazon sending postcards to remind people about this update doesn't feel that wrong.

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  1. Doesn't feel wrong? by chispito · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And suddenly, Amazon sending postcards to remind people about this update doesn't feel that wrong.

    Who exactly felt that was wrong?

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    1. Re:Doesn't feel wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      And suddenly, Amazon sending postcards to remind people about this update doesn't feel that wrong.

      Who exactly felt that was wrong?

      The trees, man. THE TREES!

    2. Re:Doesn't feel wrong? by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

      There is unrest in the forest...

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  2. Microsoft could learn sth from Amazon... by 4wdloop · · Score: 2

    How about your PC gets disconnected from internet unless you upgrade to Win10?

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    1. Re:Microsoft could learn sth from Amazon... by zenlessyank · · Score: 3, Funny

      Shut the fuck up. Don't give MS any ideas. Geez. Tell the person next to you that you need to be slapped. I am sure they will agree. ;)

    2. Re:Microsoft could learn sth from Amazon... by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2

      One of mine got disconnected from the internet after I upgraded to Win10!

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  3. internet access or amazon store access? by 4wdloop · · Score: 2

    Why would they cut out internet and ability to upgrade later?

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    1. Re:internet access or amazon store access? by Fnord666 · · Score: 2

      Why would they cut out internet and ability to upgrade later?

      Because it's an SSL cert that's expiring and once it does the device can't make SSL connections any more which prevents OTA updates, etc.

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  4. Unless you had it's wireless disabled.... by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You are fine.

    I personally think the best kindle made is my DX... why the hell Amazon doesnt make a full A4 or Letter sized Kindle paperwhite DX with current tech I'll never understand.

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    1. Re:Unless you had it's wireless disabled.... by vanyel · · Score: 2

      In fact, that's exactly what I've done:

      * it avoids the ads
      * It avoids any chance of Amazon taking away books
      * I only buy books that are either non-DRMd or can be made so

      The Kindle, however, is the best and most stable ereader I've found, which is why I went back to it. But everything gets onto it only over usb under my control.

  5. Only if they've been offline for a while by cyberchondriac · · Score: 4, Informative

    This whole thing is a bit misleading. Kindles update automatically, so this is only for some older models, and only if you've left it off in a drawer somewhere for the past couple of years. If you use the Kindle regularly, this should be a non-issue.

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    1. Re:Only if they've been offline for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Agreed, and not just that, but the patches have been around for a while.

      For instance, they're saying to update my Kindle Keyboard to v3.4.2, which was released in July 2015.

    2. Re:Only if they've been offline for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you use the Kindle regularly, this should be a non-issue.

      I use my Kindle regularly. I rarely let it go online, so if it were one of the affected models it certainly would be an issue.

    3. Re:Only if they've been offline for a while by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm actually impressed that they still support their device from 2007

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    4. Re:Only if they've been offline for a while by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Have they updated the software recently?

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    5. Re:Only if they've been offline for a while by mattack2 · · Score: 2

      Actually, I'm glad this article came up. I will at least *check* my Kindle to see if it's updated. I actually very rarely use it, and charge it when I notice it's dead. So it may not have updated itself.

      (I have bought a couple of books in the format, but read other stuff more often.)

  6. Re:Cue the lawyers... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    "Next week... Class action lawsuit against Amazon by a bunch of uneducated idiots."

    FTFY....

    They are not bricked, and if the person has a 3rd graders level of education you can still easily update it via USB.

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  7. Update over USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think the post fails to mention: you can update the Kindle over USB after the deadline.

  8. Re:Another Reminder that your Device Isn't Yours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I said nothing about books already stored locally on the device, I said books that were "safely stored on the cloud". Which yes, you will lose access to them. Or does "and your device won't be able to sync with the cloud" mean something different to you?

  9. Re:Cue the lawyers... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But consumers would have to be brave enough to come forward and admit that they were foolish enough to buy one of these crippled devices in the first place.

    I only paid $75 for a black-and-white Kindle last year. Works very well as an ebook reader. Not sure why you would call it a crippled device.

  10. Re:Cue the lawyers... by ADRA · · Score: 2

    Like every half-assed company, they have something called a terms of service which likely dictates the terms of 'updates and over the air book uploading' or whatever else they do through their cloud offering. Does that make MS class actioned for abandoning their devices left and right leaving existing owners high and dry? No, they have the right to terminate service at any time they see necessary. If you're living in a bubble world then you're going to be awfully upset by this. If you live in the real world with the rest of us, you wouldn't have an issue with this at all.

    Note as well, they're supporting Kindles back to 2007! Are you really whining about them supporting a 9 years old product?

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  11. this is likely due to the AT&T shutdown by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 4, Interesting

    AT&T will be shutting down 2G (EDGE) at the end of the year. And they (claim they) will not grandfather any device until December that didn't specifically ask to be grandfathered before the end of June.

    This is affecting multiple companies. Nissan handled it rather poorly, forcing their customers to pay for a modem upgrade in their cars.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2016/0...

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  12. It's a Certificate Update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's an updated certificate store. If you don't get the new certificate(s) onto your Kindle, it won't connect to Amazon any more. You'll lose access to any books not already downloaded onto your device, and be unable to sync newly-purchased Amazon content to it over-the-air, or sync reading positions, etc.

  13. Re:You have to update to read a book? Suckers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know you're a troll and I shouldn't feed you but....

    I love books too, but I also like to read without headaches. When you get a bit older it's great to be able to adjust the font.

    I love books too, but I also like purchasing books instantly without having to go to a physical store or wait for shipping.

    I love books too, but I also like having the ability to take a long trip with my entire library.

    I love books too, but I also like having instant dictionary lookups for new words. It really helps build the vocabulary.

    My mom said basically the same thing you just did when I showed her my first kindle (2nd generation). She now has multiple ones and loves them.

  14. Re: Not a new concept/problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A slight difference here is that those other products can still get updated without hassle when you do eventually decide to. With this case, the kindle cant even update itself after today without doing it manually via usb from a computer download.

    Thats kind of weird.

  15. Feature? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So your telling me if i wait one more day I can finally have Amazon's claws out of my device?

    Sounds like a feature to me.

  16. Re:So how will users update with no internet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    USB Cable.

    You should try to look into what the term "bricking" actually means, because you're not using it right.

    The device will be fully functional with the exception of being able to access the store UNTIL you manually update via USB. This is all irrelevant if you simply update before the deadline which has been highly advertised to any and all owners of Kindle devices.

  17. What is being changed by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While newer kindles are getting a newly formated home screen the ancient ones are getting just a single change to
    (/opt/usr/java/lib/security/cacerts).

    So evidently there must be a stolen cert out there that the machine trusts.

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    1. Re:What is being changed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or it could be a cert that is expiring.

  18. Re:So how will users update with no internet? by PPH · · Score: 2

    USB Cable.

    My preferred method of loading my Kindle anyway. After a few instances* of Amazon pulling material off of Kindles, I'd just rather not have them rooting around on my devices.

    *Granted, this hasn't happened for a while to my knowledge. But people have long memories when they get screwed over.

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  19. Re:"compliant with continuously evolving industry. by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

    It's not exactly bricking the device - it just won't connect to Amazon anymore, and it can be updated via USB at any time to restore that functionality. Anything you've already downloaded would still be available for reading as always. An AC below claims it's a certificate store update, which makes a lot of sense to me, especially how SHA-1 is being depreciated everywhere. That would explain the talk about new "standards."

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  20. This is simply wrong by argStyopa · · Score: 2

    "Old Kindles Will Be Disconnected Unless You Update By Tuesday"
    No. This is NOT TRUE.

    From TFA:
    "If you do miss the deadline, you'll need to manually download and install the required update."

    So if you don't do the update, it will continue to be just fine (particularly if you're using calibre - and if you're not, WHY NOT?).

    OTOH, you can update, and make sure that Amazon has the freshest ability to dump shit ads onto your kindle and pester you to buy crap. Hey, maybe it'll even enable them to apply some sort of new DRM to those books you all purchased legally, I'm sure?

    Yeah, no. NOT doing the update will do nothing except force you to manually update next time.
    As someone elsewhere observed, not updating may even break their ability to stream you new ad content, so there's that.

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