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9.7-Inch iPad Pro Is Apple's Last Chance To Save the iPad Line (bgr.com)

An anonymous reader writes from an article written by Yoni Heisler on BGR: The iPad occupies a unique place in the annals of tech history. Upon its release in 2010, Apple's first stab at a tablet quickly set sales records. Not only did early iPad sales outpace early iPhone sales, but the iPad quickly became one of the fastest selling consumer electronics products of all time. The iPad's once-auspicious journey, however, would eventually take an unexpected detour. In what seemed like a blink of an eye, soaring sales began to taper off, even as Apple began to introduce newer and more advanced models. Today, iPad sales are still slumping. During Apple's most recent earnings report, the company revealed that year over year iPad sales fell by 25% while iPad related revenue dropped by 20%. Hardly an aberration, iPad sales have been dropping for well over two years at this point. And whereas Tim Cook once took to earnings conference calls to praise the iPad, he now finds himself forced to defend the iPad against a barrage of analyst questions. Yesterday, Apple released a new 9.7-inch iPad Pro and it stands to reason that this is Apple's last chance to truly inject a bit of life into a faltering product line.

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  1. Maybe increase the product longevity by Kazuma-san · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If your product does not offer any improvements over the one the consumers already have, and if it has to compete with an ever more crowded market space sales of course will dwindle. Apple might consider increasing the live cycles of their products. After all, there is no point in offering a product with better performance if hardly anybody wants it. I myself am an Android user. Changing from Motorola Droid to Galaxy S2 and than to HTC M9 were always great improvements. But now with the M10 on the horizon I cannot imagine why I should want one.

    1. Re:Maybe increase the product longevity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      iPad sales were huge in the beginning because . . . DUH . . . . the market for tablets was wide open. Now, nearly 6 years later, the market is saturated. Everyone who wants one, has one, and because the iPad is so over-priced, people are not going to rush out to buy a new one, they're more likely to stick with what they have.

      A "more powerful" iPad doesn't really get you much. It's still strictly for content consumption and niche functions. For the same price as the top of the line iPad I can buy a laptop that beats it in every meaningful category -- screen size, CPU power, RAM, storage space, etc. -- AND is actually powerful enough to run real software and do real work.

    2. Re:Maybe increase the product longevity by marklark · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're looking at it from the wrong end... I have an original iPad and it still works just fine for what we need. I may buy more of them. It may break but, in the meantime, I have no need to replace it.

    3. Re:Maybe increase the product longevity by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And that is the problem, they build them to last too damn long. the ipad 1 is a tank, and the batteries in all that I touch still are at 80% capacity. the 12" ipad pro is the first ipad that entices me to replace my air version 1. and I only got that because the wife took my older ipad and wont give it back.

      Yet I have been through 30 android tablets.... most have screens made from potatochips that break easily (I have 3 nexus 7's with broken screens in my hardware hacking bin) or the micro USB plug get's buggered up. We really need an open source lightning connector replacement as that part is pretty cool.

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    4. Re:Maybe increase the product longevity by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The thing is, build quality has always been part of what made Apple great. They build products that last. That's a big part of why people are willing to pay a premium for them. Sure, Apple could start building junk that doesn't last, but the moment they do, they stop being Apple, and all that's left is a race to the bottom.

      The real problem is that nothing has really changed since the first model other than CPU speed and RAM. What would make me consider upgrading an iPad? Make it just a little thicker and double the battery life. Give it front-facing stereo speakers. Beyond those missing features, until the CPU requirements of apps exceeds the hardware's capabilities, a tablet is like a TV set. It is going to get many years of use, and unless you drop and break it, upgrades are unlikely.

      So if Apple really wants to drive people to upgrade hardware, they have to provide a reason for developers to build serious, CPU-hungry apps for the devices. That means they need more storage to accommodate such apps. They need better ability to import and/or acquire media. And so on. And realistically, the sorts of apps that demand this don't lend themselves to tablets very well, so they'll probably need to add a full-size slide-around keyboard, too. By the time you get to that point, you basically have a laptop. In other words, an iPad is unlikely to ever truly be "pro" by the traditional definition. The very core of its design is contrary to things like video editing, RAW photo editing and photo library management, etc.

      In other words, I don't think there's anything Apple can do about this. The nature of markets is that they eventually mature into a zero-sum game, and this market is there already. The best thing Apple can do is come up with new product categories, whether we're talking about accessories, cases, thermostats, lighting control systems... things that integrate well with iPad, and use those both as additional sources of revenue and as ways of selling more iPads.

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    5. Re:Maybe increase the product longevity by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think they have the opposite problem. People typically upgrade phones every few years, especially in the US where most people buy them on contract. However, with tablets, there's no contract so people tend to hold on to them longer. I've still got an iPad 3 from 4 years ago that still works perfectly fine for what I use it for so there's no compelling reason for me to get a newer model outside of general tech lust and if it does get replaced, it can get handed down to someone else who'll be able to make use of it. It's still getting software updates as well so it's not like it's missing some seriously important security patch. The only real downside is that the RAM is rather limited and the amount of web page bloat means that it can't have more a than a few open tabs before reloading pages constantly, but I expect installing ad-blocking software would go a long way towards improving the browsing performance.

      There really isn't more that a newer, more powerful tablet can do to improve on what I use a tablet for. Sure you can throw more CPU or RAM in it to speed up what I'm already doing, but watching streaming video, reading books, or some light web-browsing isn't going to be vastly improved no matter what they do and I'm not interested in doing the kinds of tasks that a newer model of tablet might enable.

      Tablets are a lot more like PCs than they are phones in that consumers can hold onto them a lot longer. Also with the trend towards larger and larger phones, some people are going to skip out on getting a tablet completely.

    6. Re:Maybe increase the product longevity by shmlco · · Score: 5, Informative

      I was tempted by the 12" iPad Pro due to its Pencil support, but went to a store and tried one and the silly thing was just too big for the majority of my use cases (reading, news, documentation). The new 9.7" version, however, may be just the ticket.

      I also just checked and I can sell my current Air 2 model for about 80% of the original purchase price on Amazon.

      Which is another thing with iPads: Not only do many of the original models work just fine, but every user that upgrades essentially puts another one on the market and takes out another potential buyer.

      IMHO THAT"S a major, major factor in regard to flattened sales in the tablet market. And as you pointed out, that's why Apple is pushing keyboards and pencils and other accessories to the niches that might need (or simply want) them.

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    7. Re:Maybe increase the product longevity by bangular · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There was a time in this country that building a quality product that lasted a long time was seen POSITIVELY by your investors.

    8. Re:Maybe increase the product longevity by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 3, Insightful

      iPad sales were huge in the beginning because . . . DUH . . . . the market for tablets was wide open. Now, nearly 6 years later, the market is saturated.

      It's just a repeat of the endless "The PC is dead" news stories. No, it's not dead, it's that everyone who wants one has one (I have a ten-year-old quad-core Core2 desktop, upgraded about five years ago with an SSD, that's indistinguishable performance-wise from one I'd buy now - note, I'm not a gamer, so graphics doesn't matter), and the same for the entire friends-and-family support network I maintain, there's no reason to get a new one (in fact Win10 is a strong incentive not to).

      Same with tablets, I have a several year old 9.7" tablet that does pretty much everything the latest 9.7" tablet does. No need to upgrade. The only things that still need upgrading is phones, but even that's mostly to deal with changing cellular standards (4G, 4.xG, etc). In fact with phones we seem to be going backwards, with batteries having shorter and shorter lifetimes in newer models.

      The only thing that'd seriously make me consider upgrading my tablet is if someone made a markedly bigger one, but apparently 9.7" is what we're supposed to be satisfied with (yes, I know there are a few larger ones, but by and large the limit seems to be 9.7").

  2. It's simple. by kuzb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The ipad doesn't offer a superior experience anymore. it offers a much higher price that people are now unwilling to pay for a device that will likely only be relevant for a year. If they want to stay in the market, they need to cut the price significantly and actually start competing.

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  3. We've already got one by imidan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Naturally, sales have declined. Those of us who really wanted one already bought one. I don't need another one. I especially don't care that the newer ones have faster processors and higher resolution because mostly I use it to read email and surf the web. So I plan on using the one I have until it fails. Oh, and I'm planning on replacing the batteries soon, despite Apple's efforts to make that difficult. Maybe that's what they should have planned on: selling us all iPads with replaceable batteries, and then selling us all new batteries in a few years.

    I'm sure I'll be in the market for a new tablet one day, but I think Tim Cook and I have very different ideas about the practical lifespan of these devices.

  4. Re:Planned Obsolesence by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Same. We have a "New" iPad, a.k.a. iPad 3. Still chugging. I'd like it a little lighter, but there's no feature of any newer iPad that would make me buy a new one now while this one works.

    Phones need better cameras. You add more and more junk to it. You need a newer phone. with the iPad, our usage has been pretty much web browsing and the occasional game. Nothing too taxing.

  5. Yeah, a "failing" 7 billion dollar item by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Revenue on ipads is 7 billion and that's just last quarter. So yeah it's down from 8 billion. boo hoo. It's only several times Tesla's revenue. The difference being it's profitable and Tesla isn't.

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  6. The iPad is doing just fine... by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem is expectations, not the product.

    Almost everyone who wants an iPad now has now, the product has moved into a longer term replacement cycle, rather than a first purchase cycle.

    I purchased the iPad in 2010, then the iPad 2 next year, then the 3 the year after that. After that, I did buy a 4, and passed the 3 down to my kids.

    We kept the combination of the 3 and 4 for awhile, only replacing them last year with a pair of iPad Air 2 units with 128GB each. Expensive, but they'll be good for a LONG time now... My hope is to get 4 years out of them before they need replacing, time will tell how that works out.

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    Keep in mind the iPhone is next in line for this. The iPhone 6/6s and 6 Plus/ 6s Plus are both "fine". We have a pair of 6 Plus models that we have no intention of replacing with a 6s, or even a 7 for that matter. Probably will wait past the 7s as well and see what the 8 offers.

    These devices have been going through massive improvements year over year, but at some point they get "good enough" for everything you want to do with a phone.

    They can't make them bigger while keeping them phones, so the size limit has been reached. The CPU is plenty fast for anything we do on them.

    Watch the next 2 years, the iPhone will see the same slowdown in sales.

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    It has been a huge mistake on Apple's part to so completely depend on these two products for sales. They have (or had) a window to move the Mac line along and provide another option besides Windows, but they will never be anything but a small corner of the market with their current Mac product line. Shame, because I've love some competition there.

  7. Why don't people understand "market saturation"? by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think that the answer is "market saturation". There's only so much call for tablets, period. They're a semi-durable good, so if you introduce it fast enough, it's entirely possible to get one into the hands of 'everybody' wanting and able to afford it relatively quickly. Now that 'everybody' has one, you're reduced to selling replacements, which means that, roughly speaking 20% of current owners will buy a new one each year, with another 5% or so of 'new participants', while you loose 5% or so due to competitors, changing interests, even things like deaths.

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  8. I remember buying the first iPad by OpenSourced · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not much into Apple stuff, closed systems and all that. But I made an exception with the iPad when it debuted. The reason being that there were no alternatives. The iPad was a product without competition, a new thing in the computer ecosystem, but with the background of thousands of iPhone apps.

    What really took me by surprise was the time that it took for other companies to duplicate the tablet concept. Even if they were already making smartphones. I mean, you may need genius to have the idea and believe in it and make the first table. But once somebody had success with it, you just have to make a bigger phone, by Jove! My memory may fail me, but I think it was at least two years between the first iPad and the first solid competition, I think a Samsung with a stylus.

    Just saying that, up to now, Apple has had a visionary at its helm, that could discover, or create, new markets. Also it had really sloppy competition, at least from the point of view of a customer. I think both things are gone now, so it's not a wonder that sales are winding down. Don't expect things to change in the near term. A bigger screen is certainly not going to cut it.

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  9. Why do these articles keep coming?? by AbRASiON · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These "death of the ipad" articles are bloody loopy.
    Sales are dropping, but that CERTAINLY doesn't mean it's not an incredibly popular device.

    Here's some hypothetical reasons I think sales could be dropping.
    Android tablets starting to genuinely compete.
    Some business sales going to the Surface, since it transcends that whole, Windows laptop / tablet world
    but the number 1 reason I suspect sales are dropping,... so many god damned people own an ipad now and anything above an ipad3 is a perfectly suitable little device for checking mail, facebook, netflix, photo viewing. People are not feeling the bug to upgrade.

    Will they still upgrade? Damn straight. Will it be as often? No.
    Personally, considering how many god damn ipads are out there, I think a 25% drop in sales is not the end of the world. The ipad has replaced many a desktop, now it too has reached a 'good enough' level of performance (like the desktop) so sales will taper to a more natural replacement and upgrade cycle.

    It's a non story.

  10. Bullshit Click-bait by WheezyJoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Crap like this is the reason Steve Jobs used to snub his investors, as well as all those so-called "analysts" who get paid to talk shite about stuff they proclaim themselves to be "experts" of.

    It's a strange business, "market analyst" (sometimes known as "tech writer"). Too often, it's that guy who dropped out of CS and transferred to the humanities department. They convince their editors that they're computer geniuses, because they can write a macro in Word. But ultimately, they're paid to talk or write shit that sounds just reasonable enough that people say, "oh yeah, that must be true". Even if it isn't. and it don't even matter if it isn't. Today's shocking article is completely forgotten the next day, as long as it got the clicks.

    So here we have this "last chance to save the iPad" click-bait. WHAT "last chance", Dingleberry? Like the investors are going to fire Cook and close down iPad production forever? because the iPad has reached a bit of market saturation and isn't shitting Tiffany diamonds like it once was? Shee ittt. It's a damn good product, better built than any Android alternative I've seen out there, and is even giving Microsoft's Surface a run for its money (damn, Satya, make the keyboard cheaper, huh?) and profit margins remain high. Every year, more students and parents and old people will buy one, probably at the expense of some shitty HP laptop at Best Buy.

    This article is monkey-shite click-bait. Here's the real story: some fuckwad editor at BGR ordered Yoni Heisler to write some rain-on-the-parade Apple article just in time for the press-announcement, knowing it will generate a bunch of clicks. And the net gets its undies bunched over how it must be true, 'cause somebody wrote an article! On the Internet! Well, douche my asshole with ginger juice! Next thing you know, they'll be talking about it on Fox and Friends, and if they're talking about it, it's all over the the iPad! Shee-da-Dip-da-Dee... itt. All this does is show how stupid so-called analysts are, as well as the media and the investors who listen to them, going all chicken-little when some gold-mine product starts to level-off a bit. These are the same asshats who wrote the iMac will never sell, and wrote nobody would ever want to buy a phone with a touch screen and no buttons that surfs the internet.

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  11. Bullshit by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure, the line won't grow by too much, but the number of people with a use case for iPads (and similar form factors) is still large enough to keep the iPad line alive just fine: schools, highly-mobile users (pilots, road-warriors, train/bus commuters, etc), industrial/manufacturing users, sales-critters using it to sell stuff like cars, small businesses who use them for POS terminals, and average folks who want to fart around on Facebook/Youtube/email, but don't want a full-blown computer-with-keyboard to do it.

    Seriously - who was shorting AAPL when they wrote this story? Or was the author just thinking that 'OMG unless it grows by 500% it's gonna die! Aieeeeee!'.

    Most likely explanation IMHO is a demand for attention and relevance on the author's part, methinks.

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