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Netflix's US Catalog Has Shrunk by More Than 2,500 Titles in Less Than 2.5 Years

According to a report on AllFlicks, a website that lists and categorizes Netflix content, the streaming service's library for American subscribers has shrunk by a third since 2014. The report claims that in March 2014, the US Netflix library consisted of about 6,500 movies and 1,600 television shows. As of this month, the same library offers 4,330 movies and 1,200 TV shows. An article on Quartz explains the shrinkage: The reason is that securing international streaming rights to shows and movies is exceedingly difficult -- laws and regulations differ by country, as does the type of content that people around the world consume. Netflix hopes that its library in other countries will eventually rival its comprehensive selection in the US.

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  1. Fine Tuning by TylerJWhit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All this tells me is that Netflix has looked at what people actually watch or want to watch and have lessened everything else. Furthermore, the real question is, how many titles do they have in their current catalog. How much of a percentage is 2,500 titles.

    1. Re:Fine Tuning by SeaFox · · Score: 2

      All this tells me is that Netflix has looked at what people actually watch or want to watch and have lessened everything else.

      Isn't that how cable TV became the wasteland it is today? Only pushing programming that was extremely popular, reaching for the easy money, and shelving anything more innovative that might be a gamble or only appeal to a niche audience?

      What's Netflix's excuse for doing it? It's not like they have a limited airtime to divvy up and make money on. The shows are just data on a hard disk somewhere and will be there to chase the long tail and give them more content to count in their marketing.

    2. Re:Fine Tuning by Maritz · · Score: 2

      It seems unlikely that an entire third of their catalogue is of interest to no-one. Not that some of it isn't shit - I get that. But people watch shit (citation? Kardashians).

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    3. Re:Fine Tuning by Verdatum · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The distributors of the film licenses have realized that streaming is pretty much their entire market these days. So they've learned that they should be asking for more money from them in order to stay afloat. Depending on the license agreement, Netflix will either pay a negotiated flat-rate to have unlimited streaming rights, a fee per view, or a combination of the two. But it's very rarely going to just be a fee per view. So when Netflix' license to a movie ends, they have to think long and hard before deciding to relicense it, if they are given the opportunity at all. Now that there's competition from Amazon, Hulu, and Google Play, the licensing company may very well have already promised the next time chunk to someone else.

    4. Re:Fine Tuning by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's pretty clear that Netflix's vision in the long run is to essentially become a television network on its own. I expect that while the actual number of titles will fall, the number of first run series will rise.

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    5. Re:Fine Tuning by jittles · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's pretty clear that Netflix's vision in the long run is to essentially become a television network on its own. I expect that while the actual number of titles will fall, the number of first run series will rise.

      I think that became the case when Netflix realized that they are completely at the mercy of the content holders and that they would eventually be displaced by the content holders themselves some day.

    6. Re:Fine Tuning by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only counterpoint I have to that is that judging by the way content holders have rolled out streaming thus far, that day is far off.

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    7. Re:Fine Tuning by RabidReindeer · · Score: 4, Informative

      One major contributor to the shrinkage was the BBC, who yanked a lot of stuff recently. Forget Dr. Who. He's gone, both old and new.

    8. Re:Fine Tuning by Falos · · Score: 2

      While this sounds like whiny bitchy hyperbole, it's worth remembering that garbage will naturally be easier to retain in a catalog, it won't take premium negotiating to get/keep rights to it.

    9. Re:Fine Tuning by rfengr · · Score: 2

      Just torrent it. Original 26 years is only 250 GB.

    10. Re:Fine Tuning by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      But they want a slice of that money pie and if they can't have their slice then they don't want anyone else to have a slice either. They'd rather have crappy streaming that everyone hates rather than someone else make the money.

    11. Re:Fine Tuning by SNRatio · · Score: 2

      Something is fundamentally wrong with modern capitalism if selling to only one vendor, instead of all vendors, is more profitable.

      Why would you expect a price war to be more profitable than a monopoly?

  2. scratching my head by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > According to a report on AllFlicks, a website that lists and categorizes Netflix content, the streaming service's library for American subscribers has shrunk by a third since 2014.

    > Netflix hopes that its library in other countries will eventually rival its comprehensive selection in the US.

    So they're going to equalize the catalog sizes by shrinking the American catalog to be more like it's international catalogs? Makes me scratch my head, but I'm not a MBA or a management consultant, so what do I know.

    1. Re:scratching my head by Maritz · · Score: 2

      Yeah the context goes missing there somewhere. "US Netflix catalogue is shrinking. It has shrunk a whole lot! Netflix hopes that its international catalogue rivals the US catalogue some time."

      Maybe (sounds a bit crazy I know so ignore me if I'm talking shit) the submitter should quickly read the summary once before posting..?

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    2. Re:scratching my head by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe (sounds a bit crazy I know so ignore me if I'm talking shit) the submitter should quickly read the summary once before posting..?

      Or maybe the editor should do it before posting the story to the front page?

      Just kidding! That would buck almost twenty years of Slashdot precedent.

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    3. Re:scratching my head by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Welcome to the brave new world of short term memory. Last time it was about how evil content owners were trying to keep down the small upstart Netflix. Today it's about how the mega corporation of Netflix is dropping your shows and capping your bandwidth in order to make even more money. Tomorrow it will be about how forgetful we all seem to be lately.

  3. Bad summary. by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 4, Informative

    Although the summary is simply quotes from the article, the way they presented them makes it nonsensical. (The US Netflix library is shrinking because it's hard to secure international streaming rights?) The actual article at least has a couple real reasons -- competition from Hulu and getting rid of obscure titles.

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    1. Re:Bad summary. by yodleboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "and getting rid of obscure titles."

      thereby removing one of the great attractions (for me anyway) of Netflix. Being able to watch things I may have just heard about in passing or stumbled across while browsing the catalog.

    2. Re:Bad summary. by Verdatum · · Score: 2

      Exactly. I pretty much only watch the obscure stuff on Netflix. Fortunately, a lot of the obscure stuff is also inde stuff, and those titles tend to be far far easier to license; so they're more likely to stay up. But yeah, if that starts to dry up, I'll drop my subscription without looking back.

    3. Re:Bad summary. by networkBoy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Netflix's deep catalog ended my piracy, since they made it so much easier...
      I even bought a fire stick to get access to Prime content, only to find that nearly everything on prime you still have to pay extra for.
      Time to fire up uTorrent and Plex once again :/
      (I liked not having to manage my own content catalog for a few years).

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    4. Re:Bad summary. by apoc.famine · · Score: 2

      I just dropped mine last month. It was harder and harder to find something new and interesting that wasn't already dumped on youtube in decent quality.

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    5. Re:Bad summary. by chefmonkey · · Score: 2

      Huh? You're not being logical.

      If netflix ended your piracy, why not keep using netflix?

      No, I see it. I've had similar thoughts. It used to be that you could go to Netflix and type in the name of a semi-recent (say, from last summer) popular movie that you didn't see in theaters, and there was a better than even chance that it was right there, ready for you to watch. It made impromptu Friday-night movie nights with the kids easy. Nowadays? Well, the last two times we tried this, literally nothing of interest was available.

      Go try it yourself. Inside Out? Nope. Big Hero 5? Nope. Age of Ultron? Nope. Fury Road? Nope. Tomorrowland? Nope. Jurassic world? Nope. Terminator: Genisys? Nope. Minions? Ant-Man? Fantastic Four? Nope. Nope. Nope.

      That's not how it used to be. That is very much not how it used to be.

      So they're not culling the rare stuff (you can still, for example, watch Primer -- and you should): they're failing to get rights to the big popular stuff that made Netflix popular in the first place. I'll be surprised if they aren't seeing their subscriber numbers plummet.

      I'm sure not getting what I want from the service, and am likely to drop it soon. Me? I'll probably pay the $4 per movie to watch it on iTunes or Amazon Prime. I can see how it might drive other people back into the arms of Torrents, though.

    6. Re:Bad summary. by chefmonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Netflix "still" has DVDs and Blu-Rays of everything.. So does RedBox.

      Re-read what the original message in this thread said: "Netflix's deep catalog ended my piracy, since they made it so much easier..." -- sending little plastic-and-metal disks around isn't easier than piracy.

      Re-read what I said: "...impromptu Friday-night movie nights..." -- sending little plastic-and-metal disks around isn't conducive to this kind of opportunistic moment.

      It's not that the DVD/Bluray service is useless, just that it's qualitatively worse than the alternatives of legally streaming or illegally torrenting the same content for most people. And decimating their content catalog is going to push people to one of those two behaviors.

      But more to the point: Netflix's stock took a 9% pounding when an independent analysis firm predicted that 2016Q1 subscriber numbers would be 13% lower than Netflix had forecast. I don't see how the next three quarters can be much better for them unless they get their content licensing shit back together. And at some point, a 9% quarter-over-quarter decline will make them a wholly-owned subsidiary of someone else. Or a bankruptcy liquidation.

  4. So they'll get the goal by Junta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    International will be as comprehensive as US content withers away...

    The real explanation is simple, Netflix was not taken very seriously as a potential channel to displace traditional revenue channels (was seen as free money for little threat), and as Netflix proved it would displace the usual revenue channels, the content holders began being far more demanding as renewal time came around.

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    1. Re:So they'll get the goal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IP holders absolutely cannot stand other people making money off of their intellectual property. This is seen all throughout all kinds of IP whether trademark, patent or copyright. This is part of why Netflix refuses to release any kind of numbers for their shows. If the owner of the show knew it was the number one thing people use Netflix for, they'd start demanding $15 per netflix user for netflix to keep the show. (Meanwhile patentholders typically demand royalties in excess of 5-10% of a product's gross revenue, no matter how insignificant of a contribution to the end product they are, as seen by the average software product infringing on dozens of the little buggers, all of which think they deserve 20%.)

    2. Re:So they'll get the goal by sydbarrett74 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Precisely. I remember a couple of years ago Starz demanded extortionate fees during contract renewal negotiations and Netflix declined (citation). A huge swathe of A-list movies and TV shows disappeared from streaming as a result. It's clear that the content providers want to provide exclusive access to their catalogues solely through their own fragmented, stove-piped streaming services.

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    3. Re:So they'll get the goal by quantaman · · Score: 2

      International will be as comprehensive as US content withers away...

      The real explanation is simple, Netflix was not taken very seriously as a potential channel to displace traditional revenue channels (was seen as free money for little threat), and as Netflix proved it would displace the usual revenue channels, the content holders began being far more demanding as renewal time came around.

      I think the bigger factor is competition.

      Amazon and Hulu are competing for shows and the broadcasters are starting up their own services as well, I know they lost some titles in Canada because the Canadian networks launched CraveTV and Shomi and they're keeping a lot of shows exclusive for those.

      As consumers we want one service to have everything, but the market naturally goes towards exclusive content. A the broadcast rights to a hit show becomes way more valuable when people will actually buy your service just so they can get it.

      That's why Netflix has started making so many of their own shows, the BBC can take away Doctor Who and HBO won't give them Game of Thrones. But if you really want to see Jessica Jones or House of Cards then Netflix is your only choice.

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  5. I18N a cost, but US rights getting harder by acroyear · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It really has nothing to do with international rights. Cost may be a factor, but it isn't the most important right now. They can license whatever the studios will sell them.

    The studios aren't selling.

    The reason is that they figure they've got the killer show that is enough to get them to install the service for just that studio's output. HBO and Starz are already exclusives (with HBO recently revoking Netflix's license with Sesame Street), Disney's working on theirs, CBS has forked off their own instead of signing on to Hulu with the other networks.

    At $15/m, they figure they've got the one killer show that is enough to get that monthly subscription, and they're gambling they're right by taking their material off of Netflix.

    In the end, "cutting the chord" is not going to save anybody any money, because instead of paying cable $99+ / month for shows and HBO, they're going to have to sign on to 7 services to get the same shows they want to watch, resulting in the same $99/month.

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    1. Re:I18N a cost, but US rights getting harder by twotacocombo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In the end, "cutting the chord" is not going to save anybody any money, because instead of paying cable $99+ / month for shows and HBO, they're going to have to sign on to 7 services to get the same shows they want to watch, resulting in the same $99/month.

      Not really. As long as there's no long term commitment to these services, people like me will just binge watch everything we want in a month, then cancel and move on to the next service. That is, until they start pulling dick moves like only keeping the 2 or 3 latest episodes, at which point they will get none of my money.

  6. DVD Library Shrinking Faster by omnichad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still pay for DVD subscription for anything that isn't streaming. And they are shrinking their deep catalog fast. My queue has almost as many unavailable titles as available titles now. They are dumping used discs at Dollar General or Big Lots fast.

    It used to be that just about anything you could think of was available on disc, and then there was streaming with the more limited catalog. Now, DVD is less and less worth paying for. I am turning to buying a copy of a movie rather than having any way to rent for the more obscure titles.

    1. Re: DVD Library Shrinking Faster by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      Push all the 'very long wait' titles to the top of your queue. They're usually being phased out. As a bonus, if one becomes available you'll get an extra disc for free, if it's been at the top of your queue for a while.

      I'm considering switching to the two-disc plan just so my kids get to see some of the classics before they dump them on Dollar General.

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  7. Competition by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

    Although the summary is simply quotes from the article, the way they presented them makes it nonsensical. (The US Netflix library is shrinking because it's hard to secure international streaming rights?) The actual article at least has a couple real reasons -- competition from Hulu and getting rid of obscure titles.

    Competition is a big one. Hulu's free offerings have gotten much worse (and mostly they flood it with intrusive or deceptive advertising about their subscription service, like claiming they have X eps when only X-150 are available unless you subscribe to their premium service), but they are paying for more content. Amazon Prime has its own big library. Even the cable companies have amazing on-demand content libraries now, just terrible interfaces. You would think it would drive prices down, but it's actually driving competition for content up and overall prices up if you want the same or greater coverage.

  8. Re:For everything else... by AntronArgaiv · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That would only serve to cause a loud portion of the internet to deride TPB as a "sellout", pick up their ball and go somewhere else they don't have to pay for it.

    Perhaps true. But as a long time user of TPB for content I cannot find on Netflix/Hulu/etc, I'd happily pay for a legitimate version...they could even call it "The WarnerSonyEveryOtherFilmCompany Bay" for all I care.

    Just put all the content in one place, and make it easy for me to watch it whenever I want on whatever platform I happen to have in front of me at the moment, and I'll be happy to pay a reasonable fee.

  9. Re:Doctor Who... by portwojc · · Score: 2

    That was due to a move by the BBC. They see the money in their own streaming channel too...

  10. It's about Licensing, Stupid! Content is expense by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Informative

    Netflix is NOT the cause of this -- it is the greedy asshole content providers. Have a NetFlix (streaming) subscription but travel to Canada or over seas and want to watch Netflix? Tough shit -- you are forced to use a proxy / VPN workaround due to retarded licensing contracts. The content providers don't have a fucking clue that some people want to watch anything anywhere and that we're willing to pay for it. They want to nickel and dime every region independently to maximize profits.

    The actual reason Netflix's catalog is so sparse -- where the fuck is Seinfeld? Big Bang Theory? -- is because licensing costs go up about 10% every few years. Sadly, Netflix just doesn't the capital nor critical mass that the cable industry has. :-/

    Here is a list of Movies not on Netflix

    People think "cutting the cord" is a solution. That doesn't effect the content providers AT ALL. The cable companies are big enough that a few lost customers aren't going to make a difference. The cable industry is so OVER saturated that the terminology is "churn". Cable box penetration has remained consistent for the past ~10 years.

    It is a similar reason Netflix basically ignores its deaf subscribers and screws up the subtitles. The solution would be crowd source the whole dam thing but you can thank the lawyers for fucking that over.

    * http://theweek.com/articles/45...

  11. Re:Thanks Slashdot for reminding me to cancel. by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

    Does anyone else have access to your account? Kids perhaps?

    I know that when they changed their pricing model we were dropped in to the equivalent tier in the new model.

    But, afaik, the 4 screen tier didn't come alone until 4k content was available.

    Perhaps you have a 4k TV and wanted to try some 4K content and so upgraded without fully understanding the different tiers?

    Also, you say it is "not even worth figuring out how to get the single screen plan" which implies that you are not familiar with the pricing tiers.

    All you have to do is go to your account and select the single screen streaming plan... but that only gives you SD quality streaming.

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  12. The same thing is happening with DVDs by JustNiz · · Score: 2

    More and more things in my DVD queue keep being silently moved from the "next to be mailed" section into the "saved" section with wait times of "unknown", never to come back out. There's never any explanation or even warning.

  13. Re:Thanks Slashdot for reminding me to cancel. by Rockoon · · Score: 2

    I think this has to do with having 4 screens streaming at once, not 4k but not really sure.

    I can see why you are having an issue. You don't know how to comprehend what you read, such as right now.

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  14. Re:It's about Licensing, Stupid! Content is expens by TheSync · · Score: 2

    retarded licensing contracts. The content providers don't have a fucking clue that some people want to watch anything anywhere and that we're willing to pay for it. They want to nickel and dime every region independently to maximize profits.

    I don't think anyone in the media industry is unaware of the consumer desire to watch any content anywhere, but the problem is that in many territories "non-internet media" like cable TV and over-the-air TV is paying so much more than Internet media SVOD distributors. You can't make your reliable, paying distributors mad by encouraging distribution channel cannibalization.

    The top content producing media companies have gross profit margins between 30% and 40% right now, and international revenue is rising quickly - often based on syndication to countries where TV access is way ahead of Internet access, and where poor people are more likely to watch free broadcast TV than have any kind of subscription.

    The actual reason Netflix's catalog is so sparse -- where the fuck is Seinfeld? Big Bang Theory? -- is because licensing costs go up about 10% every few years. Sadly, Netflix just doesn't the capital nor critical mass that the cable industry has. :-/

    The truth is that (in just the US) Big Bang Theory can regularly bring in 20 million viewers in live + 7 days VOD, and the advertising opportunity revenue for that will blow away any kind of SVOD revenue.

  15. Re:Thanks Slashdot for reminding me to cancel. by avandesande · · Score: 2

    I sure as hell do. I don't have a 4k tv or multiple ways to stream so I really don't care which one it is. All I know is they inadvertently upgraded my account for something I don't need. Were you born a jerk?

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  16. Re:Thanks Slashdot for reminding me to cancel. by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

    Yeah I get that. But the way Netflix pricing tiers are set up, the number of screens is linked to the streaming quality as well.

    So the 4 screen plan also allows 4k content streaming.

    IIRC the 2 screen plan is HD content and the 1 screen plan is SD content

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