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Chinese QQ Browser Caught Sending User Data To Its Servers

An anonymous reader writes: A report from the Citizen Lab at the University of Toronto reveals that the popular QQ Browser is collecting sensitive user information and sending it in an insecure manner to its servers. The Android version is collecting data such as the user's search terms, browsing history, nearby Wi-Fi networks, and the user's device IMSI and IMEI codes. For the Windows version of QQ Browser, the app was caught collecting data such as the user's browsing history, hard drive serial number, MAC address, Windows hostname, and Windows user security identifier. All of this is sent unencrypted, or with a weak encryption, to Tencent's servers, QQ Browser's manufacturer. Additionally, the update process is flawed and delivered in an insecure manner that allows others to manipulate upgrade patches with malicious software. This is the third browser caught exhibiting this behavior after UC Browser and Baidu Browser.

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  1. Chinese browser leaks data? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

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    1. Re:Chinese browser leaks data? by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

      Couldn't mod this up as I don't have any points, but you totally stole my comment and opinion on this one.

    2. Re:Chinese browser leaks data? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

      Beat me to it.

      Yes, this certainly is shocking news, who could have seen this coming?

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    3. Re:Chinese browser leaks data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I had a Chinese browser once.

      Half an hour later I wanted another one.

    4. Re:Chinese browser leaks data? by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

      If only there was some gambling in that browser, it would be so much better.

    5. Re:Chinese browser leaks data? by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

      yes and no, we already knew they could do this, it's just a pain in the ass. What they wanted was a court order to force Apple to provide access to, or build, back doors into the phone bypassing encryption and lockscreen. That's what they wanted, to force apple into a new, vulnerable, firmware

    6. Re: Chinese browser leaks data? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      It is not just the Chinese government. It is also part of Chinese culture. Chinese people have very different expectations of privacy. In China, people will walk into rooms without knocking, ask extremely personal questions, and stick their nose into other people's affairs far more than an American would. I once took my daughter to see a doctor in Shanghai, and the waiting area and the doctor were in the same room. There was a row of chairs, and as each patient was finished, everyone shifted over one seat. So when it was our turn, everyone else in the room sat there and watched and listened while the doctor examined my kid. This was actually very efficient, since there was a "bug" going around, and most people had the same problem. So when you reached the doctor, you already knew what your diagnosis and treatment were going to be. The appointment cost me about $2.

    7. Re:Chinese browser leaks data? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Almost as shocked as when I realized there are people who exist that thought the iPhone COULDN'T be cracked by the letter agencies.

      You are talking about an iPhone 4 , which is an older phone that does not use the same type of security and encryption as newer iPhones.

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    8. Re:Chinese browser leaks data? by eumoria · · Score: 1

      In other news: The sun rose today!

  2. Please forgive me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "In Communist China, internet browses YOU!"

    1. Re:Please forgive me by Zocalo · · Score: 1

      Also in Communist China, QQ Browser rage quits YOU!

      Seriously, was there a deliberate clue in the name or something?

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  3. Re:Chrome also does so? by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

    I do not think chrome is syncing my fucking windows SID, but you know what? I never actually checked. so, for any app to sync my bookmarks, it needs my login to said app, then my bookmarks. so WTF is it doing sending :hard drive serial number, MAC address, Windows hostname, and Windows user security identifier.? My hard drive serial number? That helps "sync my bookmarks?" Come the fuck on man

  4. Just like another by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Chrome does the same thing, when will it get a ./ article?

  5. Re:this is different from Goog or MS... how, again by FrankHaynes · · Score: 2

    I've never even heard of the QQ browser, but my sentiments are along the same lines as yours.

    When you live in the cloud, it's easier to get rained on.

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  6. Re:this is different from Goog or MS... how, again by aix+tom · · Score: 1

    That sounds a terrible lot like the behaviour of both Google and Microsoft, which people seem to accept without a problem. How exactly is this any different, except whereas Google also tries to gather other things like the contents of your emails and your social contacts?

    To be fair, both Microsoft and Google will probably use better encryption while stealing your data, so that it is not discovered that easily.

  7. You know what would really be shocking? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What would really be shocking is if it didn't send data back to some Chinese mothership somewhere.

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  8. Re:this is different from Goog or MS... how, again by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

    That sounds a terrible lot like the behaviour of both Google and Microsoft, which people seem to accept without a problem.

    Perhaps this is the problem:

    ...and sending it in an insecure manner to its servers.

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  9. Re:Popular? by jimbob6 · · Score: 2

    The worlds most popular beer is or Snowflake beer but you probably haven't heard of that either.

  10. Re:Popular? by jimbob6 · · Score: 1

    Encoding screwed that post up. There's supposed to be a Chinese word in there that translates to "Snowflake beer".

  11. Software freedom, not nationalism, is needed. by jbn-o · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The real problem is nonfree software—software which denies its users the freedoms of free software—which is also appropriately called user subjugating, proprietary software—not nationalism. There are plenty of software distributors in other countries that mistreat their users by distributing proprietary software. All proprietary software is inherently untrustworthy because proprietary software doesn't grant its users software freedom. Some distributors distribute proprietary software precisely because they know they stand a good chance of getting away with malware (including digital restrictions, spyware, ransomware, and backdoors).

    1. Re:Software freedom, not nationalism, is needed. by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

      Tell me, you are the "apps apping apps" guy, aren't you?

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  12. Unsecured and unencrypted? by phorm · · Score: 1

    Actually that might be a good thing. For one, the bad traffic was easily found, and for another it might be rather easy for some enterprising individual to mock-up some traffic and feed their servers with junk data...

  13. Why are they using these browsers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Anyone know the reason why people in China would be using QQ, etc over more typical stuff elsewhere? It seems like these browsers are made by various Chinese online services - why are they popular? Or is just one of those things where a tiny minority of Chinese users are using these things and that's still a huge number?

  14. Re:Chrome also does so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'd imagine you are correct. However, as devil's advocate - here we go.

    Windows hostname - so that it can show you what tabs / sites you have had open on each device. Chrome also shows this. Also so it can show the machine name of any "suspicious" log on attempts.

    Windows user SID - many people share a computer. One logs off, the next logs on. So it may need more than hostname to sync the bookmarks for more than one person.

    HD Serial Number - yeah that one makes no sense. It isn't even useful information for the vendor as far as I can think of.

    MAC Address - perhaps this is so that your bookmark sync doesn't get screwed up if you change the name of your computer?

    Anyway, you are likely right, but it isn't hard to think of how some of this may indeed be needed.

  15. Re:this is different from Goog or MS... how, again by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've never even heard of the QQ browser

    QQ is huge, used by hundreds of millions of people. It is far more than just a browser. It is an entire social network, with forums, games, and even a virtual currency, QQCoin. When my daughter wanted a dog, I bought her a virtual dog on QQ instead, and told her that I would get her a real dog if she could take care of the virtual dog for a year, and give it virtual food and virtual water everyday (costing more QQCoin). Unfortunately, when we went on vacation, she forgot to suspend it, and it starved to death while we were gone. I also used QQCoin to buy a virtual mink coat for my wife's avatar. So she has a mink coat that all her chat-friends can see, yet no actual minks are harmed. Win-win.

  16. Let's not ignore the log in our own eye here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I see a lot of comments about how this should just be assumed because it's China. The irony is that the very same assumptions are being made about U.S. tech based on the behavior of the government and corporations. Let's be clear here: It's wrong when the Chinese government or corporations do it, and it's wrong when the U.S. government or corporations do it. And, if we're not careful, the U.S. is going to look a lot more Chinese as time goes on, and the rest of the world will simply stop buying what we are selling.

  17. How is this a big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    given that Google Web Search, Chrome, and Windows, sends even more sensitive information on you back to Google and Microsoft? Typical anti-Chinese propaganda.

    1. Re:How is this a big deal by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Chrome has an option not to send info to Google (is it respected?). And you can hide your google searches by using a variant like startpage.

      And MS didn't start that til Windows 10. Although, people have collectively lost their shit over Windows 10 (correctly so).

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  18. #accidentallyonpurpose by sydbarrett74 · · Score: 2

    Doubtless, this is a 'feature' mandated by the Chinese government and not a bug.

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  19. Re:this is different from Goog or MS... how, again by asasdlfgnjl · · Score: 1

    Theres a browser that will one up QQ, Opera. Opera does all of that, and also reads what pages you have on speeddial, uploads to server and can inserts ads into speeddial based on it.

  20. Re:Chrome also does so? by crbowman · · Score: 1

    Forget about why it's sending the hard drive serial number. Why is windows (or any os) giving an app my hard drive serial number? What possible use could there be for that without some sort of security/privacy dialog?

  21. yeah. Like this is a surprise? by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    Obviously, they have to give up all data to the chinese gov. This is so that the wonderful Chinese gov can keep their ppl safe. It would NEVER be about restricting their access or finding out who is locating information about freedom.

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