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China Censors Online Discussion About Panama Papers (bbc.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from BBC: China appears to be censoring social media posts on the Panama Papers document leak which has named several members of China's elite, including President Xi Jinping's brother-in-law. Hundreds of posts on networks such as Sina Weibo and Wechat on the topic have been deleted since Monday morning. According to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ), the Panama Papers show that Mr. Deng acquired two offshore companies in 2009, at a time when Mr. Xi was rising in politics. State media appeared to black out the news. But many on microblogging network Sina Weibo and mobile chat network Wechat were discussing the topic on Monday morning, sharing Chinese translations of details of the story, including information on Mr. Deng. A hashtag created on the topic quickly trended. Checks by the BBC found that by the end of the day many of those posts had disappeared, with at least 481 discussions deleted from the hashtag's Weibo topic page, and other posts shared on Wechat also deleted. The website Freeweibo.com, which actively tracks censorship on Weibo, listed "Panama" as the second-most censored term on the network.

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  1. China online regarding the "Panama Papers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Upon further digging, I found out that weibo might be censored, but the "Panama Papers" has proven to be too hot to contain

    http://www.jianshu.com/p/463d19e7f47a?from=timeline&isappinstalled=0

    The above link is an example - it is a link from the Jian Shu province of China, and the author of the comment has dished out quite a lot of details, including the photocopy of the passport of the daughter of a former Chinese premier

    I do not know how long the above link will remain valid - but the existence of the above link is a proof that the "Panama Papers" has spread throughout the Chinese online world

  2. Re:The Real Problem... by nikkipolya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, it won't. China will simply call the papers a handiwork of western forces to undermine China. It will call the papers as baseless and fabricated. Nevertheless they will promise to investigate the issue further. Pause for a few months. The issue will be forgotten. Things will be as they were. Things like 'blowing up' happen in the west. Not so in the east. The west tries to advocate and follow democracy. The east tries to advocate and follow corruption. Corruption can buy corruption.

  3. Re: The Real Problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Blowing up" doesn't happen in the West anymore, either. Have you seen any reaction to the Wikileaks Cable affair? The Snowden files? Nothing. No riots. No boycotts. No calls for resignations. People are too busy worrying about their next meal - not what it will be but IF it will be - to protest. And protesting would only jeopardize what little they have to hold on to. It's over. They could release a video on corporate CEOs and heads of state feasting on human babies' ribs and nobody would do anything. It's not that people do not care: they just understand they're powerless and acting (or rather, not-acting) accordingly.

  4. Need to bring freedom to China and the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    As an EU citizen, I'm appalled that Chinese citizens don't have free access to information and don't have free speech. This is wrong and goes against everything we believe in. It is our duty to spread our freedom to the world and demand that non-free countries become free. If necessary, we should use force. I'm advocating going to war with China and the United States for the good of the people in those countries. It's unacceptable for leaders to censor information that might make them look bad. We're free to speak out against our governments, spread any ideas we desire, and read or hear any information that might be available. That includes things that are damaging to our leaders. This freedom is a human right. We have a duty to demand human rights for all. If China doesn't allow free access to information, we should go to war with them. If the United States doesn't allow free access to information, we need to go to war with them, as well. Freedom is more important than even political and military alliances.

    1. Re:Need to bring freedom to China and the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You do understand that using violence to impose freedom defeats the values protected by the very freedom?

    2. Re:Need to bring freedom to China and the US by Maritz · · Score: 2

      What Catastrophe was occasionied by the UK (yes, it's that obvious) joining the EU? Just curious. You realise the guys with the turbans in Birmingham would've been there anyway right? That whole evil empire thing you had back in the day led to that. I realise the 7 Syrian children they allowed in the other day might be a major problem for you and I suppose that's been forced somehow by the EU...? I'm not actually sure on that point.

      Maybe the UK isn't shit because of the EU, but despite it? I guess we'll find out when you leave (don't worry, you will leave - the popular opinion is to get out because forrins = bad). The consequences might just (I hope anyway) be hilarious - I get that you think you're big shit and that China, US, etc will want to negotiate trade deals. Let's see how that shakes out.

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  5. Re: The Real Problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No riots. No boycotts. No calls for resignations. People are too busy worrying about their next meal - not what it will be but IF it will be - to protest.

    The Icelanders don't agree.

    Captcha: active

  6. This is a big deal by piojo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From what I've heard about China, this is a big deal. Living in or near China, people generally say they're allowed to talk online, even criticizing the government, so long as they don't plan to meet. As soon as the talk turns toward actions, it becomes verboten. (Someone living in China, please correct me if I'm wrong.)

    So this must be quite a big deal. It'll be interesting to see whether there's aftermath to the censorship.

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    1. Re:This is a big deal by Dr.Saeuerlich · · Score: 5, Informative

      been living in China for 7 years now. I general it used to be like this. Around 2011 it really looked like the government relaxed its grip on censorship a bit.

      However, in the last year things got worse. Xi has a much lower tolerance for people letting steam off, and he seems to be particularly concerned with his own image. Things are now censored far quicker than before and the regime seems to have lost most scruples as it realized how toothless the West is. Expect more show trials and confessions on TV and more sudden disappearances of people, regardless which passport they hold.

  7. Re:Hmmm.... by Ultra64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >China has been surprisingly open WRT to the Panama Papers

    What are you talking about? This is an article about China censoring those papers. That is kind of the opposite of being "surprisingly open".

  8. Re:Hmmm.... by MaxSmoke · · Score: 2

    You poseurs vote for the same D / R people in ever election.

    People do change. Elect a nice guy and he becomes an asshole.
    That is a human nature and there is not much to do about that.
    See Stanford experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  9. Re:Hmmm.... by gtall · · Score: 5, Informative

    Really? Do a google search on "Panama Papers". Hell, it even has a wikipedia page on them. And no one stopping you from going to Guardian and reading them. I suspect the U.S. doesn't give a flying rat's ass about them. Not that many Americans had accounts with the Panamanian firm, those that do mainly seem to have them for purchasing property in L. America. Also, the U.S. has rather lax laws, so there was no need to go to Panama.

    There is speculation that the U.S.'s own Panama, Delaware, will have to open up but I have my doubts. Their financial cesspool of legislation makes a lot of money for the state. Many companies incorporate there because of their lax laws. They are also the kingpin in bankruptcies...case in point, SCO, but they are small potatoes to what's really going on there.

  10. Re:Hmmm.... by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 2

    Ever heard the term "obvious troll is obvious"?

  11. Re:The USA is better at censorship then China... by gerddie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Very simple, they have their money in Delaware, and because when they put your money there, they didn't have to go through some Panama based company, and hence, they are not on the list.

  12. Re:Hmmm.... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

    Obama lectures us like a pious college professor about inequality/Islam and yet he stashes his loot in off shore banks.

    Obama hasn't earned Big Money yet. You don't earn a lot when you are the president of the United States. You make Big Money after your terms by giving talks starting at $100,000 per hour, and peddling influence. Hell, next year, Obama could offer a cup of his piss or shit on eBay and folks would bid for it.

    I bet Hillary does the same shit

    Being that she was cozy with Wall Street types . . . that's pretty much a given. Her customers are used to doing Panama deals.

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  13. self censoring also aplies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Consortium_of_Investigative_Journalists
    just see who funds the icij then talk about china censoring results.
    Hint: it's the us gov plus many big interests groups.
    Shocking!

    1. Re:self censoring also aplies by Maritz · · Score: 2

      I had a look at your link. I guess you didn't want people to do that, hence you didn't (or can't) make it an actual link with an anchor tag. But yeah. I looked at your link and you're lying.

      For anyone who cares, this is the list of donors.

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  14. Re:The USA is better at censorship then China... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    No Americans THAT ACTUALLY MATTER...US Senators? US Pollys? US Company CEOs? US Banking execs? Where are they in this list?....and you tell me there is no censorship in the US media.

  15. Re:Hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The REAL problem with the Panama Papers is that they were turned over to the mainstream media outlets, who have ONLY published dirt on people who we already knew were dirty. And people are noticing:
    http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2016/04/the-panama-papers-where-are-the-americans-000083

    Here's a "partial list" of people named in the Panama Papers:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_named_in_the_Panama_Papers

    This article is not even findable via Google no matter how specific you are with the search terms:
    http://undergroundreporter.org/something-oddly-missing-from-largest-leak-since-snowden/

    Now, I know this is going to sound like conspiracy theory talk, but who benefits from this leak? Western power brokers, that's who. Their foreign contemporaries are all now embattled, especially that Icelandic guy who had the nerve to *gasp* allow the banks to fail after the GFC. What fucking cheek!

  16. Oh my Godwin by rmdingler · · Score: 2
    Being disliked by the Americans or the western banks is no credible defense to using your office to loot your nation's coffers and stash money abroad.

    This is the logical equivalent of "Well, the Americans don't seem to like Hitler, soooo...."

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    Ernest Hemingway

  17. Re:Hmmm.... by Maritz · · Score: 2

    David Cameron doesn't seem to be benefitting. Do we not include his dad because it doesn't fit your theory?

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    I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
  18. Re:Hmmm.... by Type44Q · · Score: 2

    I suspect the U.S. doesn't give a flying rat's ass about them.

    Either that or censorship over here doesn't operate in the blatant, simplistic fashion that it does in China.

  19. Re:The USA is better at censorship then China... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    No Americans THAT ACTUALLY MATTER...US Senators? US Pollys? US Company CEOs? US Banking execs? Where are they in this list?

    They are not on the list because in America it is PERFECTLY LEGAL to use your influence to get rich. So there is no need to hide the wealth. Senators collect money from lobbyists, and use the revolving door to become lobbyists. American CEOs and bankers make far more than their European counterparts, mostly in leveraged stock options. There is no need to hide the money, since is is all above board.