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PayPal Pulls North Carolina Plan After Transgender Bathroom Law (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: PayPal Holdings Inc on Tuesday canceled plans to open a global operations center in Charlotte, North Carolina and invest $3.6 million in the area after the state passed a controversial law targeting lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) citizens. In a letter on March 29, founders and chief executives of more than a hundred companies, including Apple Inc, Twitter Inc, and Alphabet Inc urged North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory to repeal the legislation. PayPal is one of the first companies to protest the controversial measure requiring people to use bathrooms or locker rooms in schools and other public facilities that match the gender on their birth certificate rather than their gender identity. "The new law perpetuates discrimination and it violates the values and principles that are at the core of PayPal's mission and culture," Chief Executive Officer Dan Schulman said in a statement. PayPal's original plan was to open the operations center in Charlotte and employ 400 skilled workers there.

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  1. Re: What's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That doesn't happen. Nobody does that.

    I work on a school campus that happens to have a gender-neutral restroom with about 12 stalls which can be utilized by both men AND women. Amazingly, nobody has been hurt and the sky has not fallen.

  2. LGB ? by yet+another+SanTiago · · Score: 5, Interesting

    area after the state passed a controversial law targeting lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) citizens

    I see how the law is targeting transgender people, but how the law is targeting lesbian, gay or bisexual people?

    1. Re:LGB ? by Sowelu · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The summary and article leave out the fact that this law bans local jurisdictions from offering any LGBT protections beyond what the state does, which is "none". Cities had local laws saying, for example, you couldn't refuse to rent to a gay couple just because they were gay...those city laws are now struck from the books by state mandate.

  3. a shot across the bow has been made by nimbius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    for those who think this isnt an egregious concern for the state of North Carolina, they very much do have a lot to lose.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    The Research Triangle Park (RTP) is one of the largest research parks in the world, but its been largely a pearl in an otherwise very salty oyster. Its home to Cisco, Redhat, Microsoft, and NetApp among others. Governors and statesmen are wrecklessly gambling with this research park in the hopes that pandering to ten million North Carolinians with rhetoric from the culture war is a sustainable or responsible approach to governing their state.

    PayPal has made it very clear: there are 49 other states that will gladly accept our proposition to employ hundreds of high skilled knowledge workers. Your tax incentives are by no means exclusive to the state.

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  4. Re:Discrimination against who exactly? by nimbius · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you have a penis, use the boys room. If you don't you'll make everyone else in the womens room uncomfortable.

    there are many people with a penis that would look entirely inappropriate in a boys room.

    What if some regular schmuck decides for the lulz to dress up as a women for a day and go all perv in womens room?

    then hes committed a number of already existing criminal infractions such as disorderly conduct or sexual assault at worst. men already do this. this law wont fix the problem

    At this point why not make all restrooms communal or unisex?

    Here in West Hollywood, we kinda did. instead of passing a law that stated gender normative restrooms had to be enforced we did the opposite. we made a law that states all restrooms have to be accessible by both genders. Some smaller bars and restaraunts just made both their restrooms locking unisex. Larger night clubs and hotels converted to an architectural model that provides a fully closed rack of stalls, and around a corner enclosed urinals with privacy partitions.

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  5. I Like To Shit Next To Women by zenlessyank · · Score: 5, Funny

    The comments they make when I release the death fog is fucking hilarious. I don't care how big your dick is, lady. My alien acid shits will drive you out of the men's room FOREVER!!!!

  6. Shows the limits of freedom by MikeRT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whose freedom is more important? The transgendered man who wants to use a woman's restroom or the women who don't want to share their restroom with a transgendered man? Who should prevail? You can't make one happy without making the others unhappy. This is the nature of politics. You have to decide and say "you get your way, and you, just deal with it."

    The governor of NC chose to side with 51% of his state over probably 0.001% of his state. Sure, there are women who would agree with sharing the restroom. The governor can't know how many. All he probably knows is that he's likely never met a woman in his state except a few activists that like the idea. Therefore he is doing precisely what we ordinarily value which is letting the majority rule.

  7. Re:You moron by rockout · · Score: 5, Informative

    Stop bullshitting. It was done to ensure individual communities couldn't pass laws that prohibit discrimination. In other words, the Jesus-yokels in the state house said "We're looking at YOU, Raleigh, Charlotte, and especially you hippies in Asheville, and we don't like you getting all fag-friendly and whatnot."

    The law also limits the definition of sex to the sex at birth, meaning that even if someone was a complete post-op transsexual, they're still considered be their original sex by the state.

    You're as entitled to your opinion on this as anyone else, but at least have the balls to admit what the law really is, instead of all this double-talk about "different and contradictory laws" in different communities. What happened to that conservative maxim of keeping power out of the hands of central government and letting local communities decide what's best? Oh, that was hypocrisy? What a shock.

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  8. Re: What's next? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

    To clarify, I'm talking about a post-graduate medical college.

    Sex with cadavers was never my thing.

  9. paypal politics by fche · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Remember, this is the same company that excludes its users from commerce in legal but politically incorrect products & services.

    https://www.paypal.com/ca/weba...

  10. Solution by PPH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unisex bathrooms.

    And make them with closed stalls. So nobody will know which way the feet are pointing when they take a leak.

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  11. Not just a bathroom law by duckintheface · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a citizen of North Carolina, I am grateful to Paypal for standing up to protect people from discrimination. As bad as the treatment of transgender folks is in this law, the real impact is much broader. This law removes the right of all citizens to access state courts to sue for employment or housing discrimination based on age, race, national origin, or sex. The Republicans are using the bathroom stuff as cover because they think a majority of voters don't identify with transgender people. But the real impact is to legalize all forms of discrimination in North Carolina.

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    1. Re:Not just a bathroom law by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Federal law is severely lacking in GLBT protections though. Sure, we have marriage equality. That's great for people who've found the person they want to marry, and are willing to take the financial penalty every April that goes along with marriage. That SCOTUS ruling didn't amend the Civil Rights Act or Title 9 protections to include LGBT people though. And even ENDA... itself a very watered-down, insufficiently inclusive, and overall inadequate facsimile of those protections... has been stalled in congress for as long as I can recall.

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    2. Re:Not just a bathroom law by mysidia · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If LGBT is a choice or a lifestyle and thus not deserving of any protected status, then nor is religion

      Religion is spelled out as protected in the constitution; this is similar to the rights to your beliefs.

      IF you want to say LGBT should be protected as Religion is, then I have no problem with that; It sounds perfectly sensible that THAT, as well as ANY peaceful 1st amendment exercise should have similar protections.

      However, Religious beliefs do not exclude you from the law and rules of private institutions in regards to your comings and goings, And businesses don't have to make special accomodations for your religion.

      For example: If the company provides free lunches which contain pork; Just because your religion says you cannot eat pork, does not mean you can force them to provide you a special pork-free serving.

      Your religion doesn't force businesses to allow your required religious attire, and does not force businesses to let you use a special per-religion bathroom, Unless they choose to do so.

      Businesses cannot deny you employment based on your religion; However, your religion cannot just start coming up with willy-nilly demands for them to meet.

  12. Re:Good by Dputiger · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Maybe according to the Newspeak Wordsbook of the SJW, but not according to a real dictionary"

    Let's test that theory.

    Dictionary.com says that gender is: "either the male or female division of a species, especially as differentiated by social and cultural roles and behavior" while sex is: "either the male or female division of a species, especially as differentiated with reference to the reproductive functions."

    Let's try the Oxford English dictionary.

    Gender: "The state of being male or female as expressed by social or cultural distinctions and differences, rather than biological ones; the collective attributes or traits associated with a particular sex, or determined as a result of one's sex. Also: a (male or female) group characterized in this way."

    Sex: Either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

    All emphasis my own.

    So, no. You're just wrong about this, and if you're going to pedantically claim that the dictionary supports you, you ought to be arsed to check your dictionary first. The dictionary supports the modern distinction of gender and sex.

  13. Re:You moron by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And you don't think a judge can't tell the difference between a genuine transexual and a pervert?

    Other posters are right. This is just cover for holding Jeebus up high and striking out at people that don't conform to your views. This is exactly how the "Family Values" types try to claim that all gay men are pedophiles. Now suddenly all transexuals are actually peeping toms who want to wear dresses.

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  14. Re:Blackmail to allow perverted activities? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People need to wake up to the amount of social engineering being forced down their throat and take action against it

    Do you ever notice that people who are experiencing panic over transsexuals or gay people love to talk about having stuff forced down their throats?

    Seriously, I don't know what people like you do when you go to the bathroom, but transsexuals, gay people and even blacks pretty much just go to do their business, wash their hands, and then leave. They do not want to look at your shriveled dick.

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