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US: North Korean Missile Launch a 'Catastrophic' Failure (washingtonpost.com)
An anonymous reader writes: North Korea failed to launch an intermediate-range missile on Friday, multiple news outlets, citing American and South Korean military officials, are reporting. The failure, The Washington Post reports, caused the regime an embarrassing blow on the most important day of the year on the North Korean calendar. For those unaware, North Korea had planned -- and tried -- to launch a missile to mark the 104th anniversary of the birthday of the country's 'eternal president,' Kim Il Sung.ABC further reports: "It was a fiery, catastrophic attempt at a launch that was unsuccessful," Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said Friday. U.S. officials are still assessing, but it was likely a road-mobile missile, given that it was launched from a location not usually used for ballistic missile launches, on the country's east coast, he said. The UN Security Council issued a statement saying its members "strongly condemned" the North's firing of a ballistic missile, which it said constituted a clear violation of UN Security Council resolutions although the launch was a failure. "We strongly condemn North Korea's missile test in violation of U.N. Security Council Resolutions, which explicitly prohibit North Korea's use of ballistic missile technology," the official said.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world including people in the US wonder why they feel the need to trash talk North Korea so hard. South Korea doesn't need the reassurance, China already knows how terrible its partner in crime is and nobody else cares.
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Spectacular Fireworks To Celebrate Anniversary Of Glorious Leader Kim il Sung Birthday Huge Success!
They don't actually have much in the ways of nukes or missiles. They know they would be decimated in any war, so they detonate every single nuke and launch every missile they have to ensure that people don't bother them.
It was a fiery, catastrophic attempt at a launch that was unsuccessful," Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said Friday
The attempt was catastrophic and fiery. The launch was, however, unsuccessful. This sad day for the NK engineering group reminds them from the value of continuous, systematic work, removed from worshiping idols, glory and honor. Hopefully all of them survive the night.
I feel bad for the rocket scientists who are gonna be executed in some horrible way...
Dear leader just decided that the people of North Korea should see first hand what kind of punishment he has in store for the imperialist pigs, so they know why they do not want to live there.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
China has been enabling the mad dogs of North Korea for far too long. Its time they paid the price for such arrogance.
'Cause what you see you might not get
And we can bet so don't you get souped yet
You're scheming on a thing that's a mirage
I'm trying to tell you now it's sabotage
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage
Kim Jong Un, using his Cartman voice: "I meant to do that!"
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Obviously everyone has it wrong. This was just a very, very large firecracker.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Has all long range missile testing been banned for everyone or just for north korea?
And if they do it again we'll condemn you some more.
That'll teach 'em.
The UN are looking more and more like a Monty Python sketch every year.
I hope You all blow each other because I'm tired of this planet.
There are entire YouTube channels dedicated to the early catastrophic launch failures in the U.S. space and defense programs.
Your "friend" visited the heavily scripted tourist areas of North Korea. It's not an accurate comparison.
So the North Koreans fail and everyone here is clicking their heals, laughing and insinuating that the North Koreans are little more than apes with a loaded pistol but Elon Musk fucks up launch after launch and you treat him like he's the second coming of Christ.
Seriously fuckers? Go jam your hero worship bullshit straight up your assholes.
Unless you have an endless supply of rocket scientists this is a bad idea.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Koreans probably feel bad enough about it (they're a very PROUD people & have a right to be, I'll get into why) - there's NO POINT in rubbing salt into their cuts as a people, 1st of all.
Secondly - they produce great things! My vehicle's a great car (even TopGear said so, saying "This is a GOOD car! I'm not talking one for 25 grand, but a really good car" - the smaller guy, not Jeremy, said it - I agree)... Tiburon GT 2006 (only 33,000 miles on it, run on Mobil 1 15k synthetic + Purolator Pure1 magnetic banded filters since day #1 here) V6 on a manual stickshift (she'll hit 145mph quickly to this very day).
They're a very "Korea #1" people & for a tiny nation, they do well imo.
NOW, onto Kim Jong iL - They try frame him as a hothead, & I don't listen to crap online about others (especially when 'framed' by his potential naysayers) until I meet them myself or see what they themselves have said, but... let's ASSUME he is - it's NOT a good idea to 'pick on' people like that... they tend to ACT on it, & for someone with nukes? Again, NOT a good idea.
APK
P.S.=> Let's hope he's learned to take crap (you do learn it & become desensitized to it, learning to use facts to put away naysayer detractors instead) gracefully & to combat it with overcoming objects & mistakes is all... apk
Better watch out, North Korea! If you keep this up, the UN might write you a sternly worded letter! You'll wither before the might of their disapproving frown! If you really piss them off, they might even submit a motion to consider a vote on a non-binding resolution, at a later date!
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
On the other side of the coin, the American people tried to make Washington President for Life, which he refused
The big difference is that the American Revolution resulted in a thriving system with many leaders and voices, while NK's "revolution" resulted in a single lineage of power resting uneasily on its throne
North Korea threatened to nuke the mainland united states with a ICBM, complete with miniaturized nuclear warhead. I think North Korea should be taken out now, before it gets better with its nukes, and missiles....
All US Presidents retain the title of President for life, against Washington's wishes.
Washington vehemently opposed the formation of political parties. The people did it anyway.
Washington never wanted a standing army. The people did it anyway.
The American people have ruined everything that Washington fought for.
I don't "favour" NK because its a fascist regime where human rights have no significance at all.
But, why should we pay attentition to the failures of the NK rocket program, when we should focus more on the successes of this program, and the nuclear program. Because the successes tend to be much more dangerous than the failures.
Citation: "It was a fiery, catastrophic attempt at a launch that was unsuccessful,"
Should we now call every exploded - and most importantly unmanned - U.S. military or commercial launch failiure also a fiery catastrophic attempt?
But no, because it would be propaganda. Yes, not only does NK propaganda, everybody does it.
It should be called what it was:
1.) a hefty and repeated violation of an U.N. resolution - that will mostly go unpunished because there is not really anything more to sanction, even China had put NK on a strict diet.
2.) an attempt to have good propaganda
3.) a failed missile launch
4.) death by firing squad for the person in charge
And nothing more, to try to taunt NK or Kim Jong Un is just that kind of slimy and stinking propaganda everybody knows from NK - it stinks and just replaying this propaganda is like getting down on the same level with the NK regime.
Civilised press should not relay propaganda of any kind especially not uncommented.
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Is that North Korea's posturing helps both South Korea and Japan cover up their own embarassing internal mistakes and corruption drama by giving a more 'dangerous and immediate threat' for their people to be distracted by until investigations into their domestic activities are quietly shoved aside.
The financial and political benefits of that should not be underestimated.
Sure, and Washington also warned against the US becoming involved in foreign affairs...
On the other hand the US has kept the structure of government checks and balances as described by the Constitution in place, educated its populace, avoided splintering into smaller states, spread from "sea to shining sea", removed the military influence of Eurpoean governments from this continent, and grown into the largest economic/military/political/social power on the planet. So, despite missing on a few minor points, I'd say old GW would probably give us a passing grade
Meanwhile, NK continues to be the punchline of a very sad joke
If you want some inspiration, try Rammstein's Amerika
Man.. You'd think that they can land a man on the sun, but they can't even get a missile to work on Kim Il Sung's birthday.
I wonder how many people will get shot for that blunder?
See subject: It did sound that way didn't it - worst part is, I am aware of N. vs. S. Korea too, no less (who isn't?)... still, I really meant to convey it's bad enough for them, perhaps especially as a proud folk, to fail - picking on someone (& somebody else said this in this thread in this very manner) isn't couth/classy. At least they're trying to "reach the stars", so to speak... there's many other nations that aren't anywhere NEAR that.
* I figure it this way though - North OR South, they're still of the same general Asian/Oriental (whatever) bloodline there as a people... that's more of what I meant, honestly (heck with national boundaries in other words).
APK
P.S.=> And, yes - there's ALWAYS some "big brother" propping up one regime or another, getting people to play against one another, keeping them divided & fighting so they pose no threat, stay weaker than they'd be unified, + easy to "use" etc. (political crap that makes me shamed to be part of the same species here actually)... apk
...and letting ex-presidents retain the honorific doesn't bother me nearly so much as incumbent presidents (or anyone else) using the term "commander in chief" when they're not referring to military affairs.
Do we have anything that could take out a missile in the boost phase? Especially if we know when and where the launch is happening?
The US didnt remove the influence of eurpoean governments from the american continents. The people of the countries did. They rebelled against spain and france and portugal. canada was heavily tied to the UK until after WW2, plus the UK still has ties to many Caribbean islands and we still have sovereignty of the falklands (fuck you argies).
True, the US did fight a war with spain, and ended up as a colonial power itself (Philippines & Puerto Rico). Go Team.
All the targets of those guns have already been pre-sighted, so they'll shoot straight-on-taget without the need of adjustment rounds.
"Amerika" has now replaced "Hooray for Hollywood" as part of my zeitgeist.
His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
This is a snippet from a book published (and translated directly from Korean to English) in North Korea that was purchased in Pyongyang from the Foreign Languages Bookshop. The book was named; “Kim Jong-Il – The Great Man”:
As to a successful nuclear test in the DPRK, the fellow countrymen in South Korea said with pride, "Great the great north Korea! The pride of our nation! The nuclear test is the exercise of great self-defense right of the north as a sovereign state with Juche character. Isn't it stately and above board national defence, not subservient and cowardly to any outside forces? Chairman Kim Jong Il of the National Defence Commission is really a man of gut. I congratulate north Korea on possessing nuclear weapon. How wonderful it is for the north, though small in territory to live with dignity, fighting squarely against the US, not losing national pride and sovereignty. Chairman Kim Jong Il0 had done really well. Great north Korea! Brace up! And win! I hope you will do what others cannot. It is the most thrilling, monumental deed since King Tangun founded Korea,"
This is part of a great series of photo essays by by an American travelling North Korea:
http://www.earthnutshell.com/1...
http://www.earthnutshell.com/1...
http://www.earthnutshell.com/n...
Tsar Bomba is a bad example. It was a bomb in the traditional sense (hence the name) and was dropped by a bomber. It was simply a publicity stunt more than anything else, and including strategic issues had tactical ones like getting the bomber out of the blast area fast enough...
No the true example of the inaccuracy of ICBM's were the development of MIRV variants. I think it stands for Multiple Independent Re-entry Vehicles.
The accuracy was so poor, particularly on older ICBM's that even with large nuclear payloads, and aiming at city sized objects there was still a pretty good chance you would miss entirely, and just really annihilate some adjacent farmland and some poor cows. This is why on both sides of the cold war you had redundancy of important targets with multiple ICBM's targeted, and also why both had stockpiles so large as to be ridiculous. MIRV's fixed the issue by having many small bombs showering a much larger area, ensuring a hit. Also the larger the yield has diminishing returns... It is much more effective to user several smaller yield devices spread out over a uniform area than one big one.