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Keurig Spends 10 Years Developing A Recyclable Coffee Cup (boston.com)

Last year Keurig Green Mountain sold over 9 billion single servings of its coffee in plastic "K-Cups" -- none of which could be recycled. "Placed end to end, the pods sold in a year would circle the globe roughly 10 times," reports the New York Times News Service, noting the company spent the last 10 years developing a backwards-compatible cup that could actually be recycled. In the mid-1990s, "Keurig began buying the containers -- made from a blend of plastic that is tough to recycle -- in bulk, never expecting that it would one day sell billions a year. But because Keurig machines were designed specifically for the pods, changing course soon seemed virtually impossible." One environmental advocate complained "There are a lot of ways to make coffee that don't use so much packaging. Making coffee wasn't something that needed to be reinvented." But the company may still face criticism because their new cups can be recycled -- but not composted.

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  1. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Funny, because every time I get coffee from one of those little cups it taste like it's already been composted.

    1. Re:Hmm by vovin · · Score: 2

      Canadians are very patriotic about their Tim Hortons.

      Apparently it's like a comfort food. Stale burned coffee with lots of sugar and milk
      Asking for black coffee (at TH) and they get mind bogglingly confused. After tasting it I understood why ... Much better to get a known sub-standard coffee from McD's than that wacko shit from TH.

    2. Re:Hmm by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      They're in most hotels. They produce a brown liquid that is a vague approximation of coffee. After an 8-hour flight with a couple of hours of travel at each end, if it's a choice between that or leaving the hotel to find good coffee, the machine wins. I've never understood them for home or office use though - they're more expensive than most ways of producing better coffee.

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    3. Re: Hmm by Type44Q · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apparently there are millions of people who disagree with you.

      There are millions who'd disagree with my refusal to ever consume McDonalds... do I really need to continue?!

    4. Re:Hmm by StikyPad · · Score: 2

      I think it's fair to say that all consumed coffee is instance coffee. Abstract coffee factories are very difficult to drink.

    5. Re:Hmm by cellocgw · · Score: 4, Funny

      They produce a brown liquid that is a vague approximation of coffee.

      I believe the official slashdotically approved phrasing is "..a brown liquid that tasted almost, but not entirely, nothing like coffee."
      (apologies to the obvious paraphrasee)

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  2. Re:Bite the bullet by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Design a new machine. People will eventually switch over, especially the vocal save-the-planet types.

    They don't sell current machines, what good would a new one do?

    Oh, excuse me, the 2.0 crap? Yea, not gonna buy a DRM coffee machine.

    So this doesn't really help, since I'm not switching from the original.

  3. You don't have to use keurig brand cups by fragMasterFlash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These k-cup compatible pods are ~90% biodegradable. Keurig should license their design post haste.

    1. Re:You don't have to use keurig brand cups by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      These k-cup compatible pods are ~90% biodegradable. Keurig should license their design post haste.

      Those are the ones we buy, actually. On Amazon they're relatively inexpensive ("relative" to other K-cups... not the good ol' coffee pot).

      I was against getting a Keurig, but my wife really wanted one - so I eventually relented. I really hate the thing. It probably makes more sense for people who don't drink much coffee; but, if you were a pot-a-day family, the cost of replacing that with a Keurig is ludicrous. We're spending easily $50 a month, just on coffee! And it doesn't seem like those things actually save you any effort - it's just that it's spaced out throughout the day. If it made really good coffee, that might sway me... but it's worse than brewing a pot.

      I like to tell people that, if my wife pre-deceases me, even before I call the mortician I'm putting that Keurig in the trash. I hate it that much.

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    2. Re:You don't have to use keurig brand cups by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I like to tell people that, if my wife pre-deceases me, even before I call the mortician I'm putting that Keurig in the trash. I hate it that much.

      I hear you. They make bad coffee, are more expensive and mess up the environment.

      You get a french press and you don't even have to buy filters. Hell, I can still make a decent cup in an old fashioned percolator that'll taste better than a k-cup machine.

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    3. Re:You don't have to use keurig brand cups by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      It probably makes more sense for people who don't drink much coffee; but, if you were a pot-a-day family, the cost of replacing that with a Keurig is ludicrous. We're spending easily $50 a month, just on coffee! And it doesn't seem like those things actually save you any effort - it's just that it's spaced out throughout the day. If it made really good coffee, that might sway me... but it's worse than brewing a pot.

      I like to tell people that, if my wife pre-deceases me, even before I call the mortician I'm putting that Keurig in the trash. I hate it that much.

      Exactly.

      Where we have our board meetings, the people have one of these. Nothing more annnoying than taking half the meeting just to get everyone a cup. It's the decision whether to get coffee early, and have it get cold while you politely wait for everyone else to get a hot cup but smell it for a long time before you can get it. Soooo convenient a solution to the age old problem of making a pot timed to be finished right before the meeting starts, and everyone getting a cup at the same time. It is mediocre coffee at that.

      So I get a soda. Yet the things are popular, why I don't know. Then again so is the overly brewed moldy mud tasting crap that Starbucks sells. And I'm not remotely a coffee snob.

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    4. Re:You don't have to use keurig brand cups by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      ugh. A home espresso machine? I only drink coffee from professional machines prepared and delivered by Himalayan virgins.

  4. Re:Bite the bullet by sumdumass · · Score: 2

    The problem with a new machine is the competition for shelf space. The new cups would have to be placed alongside the existing cups until enough people made the switch that you wouldn't take a large financial hit.

    There are probably a lot of people who sunk the money into the old machine that simply won't be interested in buying the new one should they be forced into another coffee maker purchase. This also has to be a consideration in the process because they make quite a lot from selling the coffee. It is likely cheaper to purchase a drip coffee maker and throw half a pot or more away once you consider the costs of the machines and coffee.

  5. Or you could use paper cups instead by jsse · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It might surprise some hardcore environmentalists that using paper cups, or just using more paper on anything else, might be more environment friendly than you might imagine. (The following facts might be considered as flamebait again but please read on with patient before you mod.)

    Papers are not made from cutting wood in rain forest anymore (some furniture, on the other hand, still are). 95% of the raw materials in paper are coming from trees, and these trees are carefully planned to grow and harvest. Various "Tree Funds" were raised every 10-15 years for raising money in building such tree farms.

    Unfortunately, these "Tree Funds" are very sensitive to market. When there are less demand in papers, these funds would diminish, and in turn less tree farms would be built. Less tree farms, less trees, less oxygen-producers, more carbon dioxide, more severe the green house effect and so forth.

    Encouraging paper-saving would probably lead to more green house gases. The irony...

    1. Re:Or you could use paper cups instead by maeka · · Score: 2

      What are the extra processes involved in making recycled paper that aren't required for new paper

      There are no extra processes except the less efficient collection, sorting, and delivery to the mill of post consumer paper from disperse sources. But I rather suspect that is not what GPP is pointing to as "more enviromentally destructive", rather I suspect it is the massive increase in bleaching needs for PCR paper.

      "Deinking" takes a lot more bleach than raw wood fibers do.
       

    2. Re: Or you could use paper cups instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Elemental chlorine bleaching has been banned in Europe since the 1980s and totally chlorine-free has had an over 50% market share for a long time. Moreover, in recycling paper, chlorine and chlorine compounds have never been very common.

  6. Reuseable K-Cup insert by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are inserts that fit the Keurigs that you can fill with your own ground coffee, then empty after it's brewed. I'd love to use them, it'd give me a wider variety of coffees. The only problem is that none of them seal properly, water and grounds come out the top and make a mess and the leakage interferes with the brewing. If Keurig really wanted to solve the problem, put the research into modifying the MyK-Cup so it seals properly and the water flows through the grounds rather than off the top and through the open mesh screen.

  7. Meanwhile by Crashmarik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://www.amazon.com/Ekobrew-...

    Someone came up with the idea of a refillable K-Cup

    You really want to do something about the "Problem" there you go. Otherwise you can buy "Recyclable" K-Cups that never will be.

    Me I just use these things

    http://www.amazon.com/Braun-Pe...

    Damned if I am going to pay two bucks a cup when all is said and done for coffee I make myself.

    1. Re:Meanwhile by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I feel like going through the effort of re-filling a k-cup kind of defeats the purpose (which is convenience). At that point, you might as well get an espresso machine.

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  8. The Original Recyclable Coffee Machine by jshackney · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bialetti Moka Express:

    • reusable
    • makes coffee you can taste
    • makes one cup at a time
    • grounds are easily recycled
  9. assholes by supernova87a · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's not be such eager shills for Keurig's attempts to fix up its image, shall we? Their priority isn't doing good for the environment or the customer, it's doing whatever it takes to makes customers think that they're doing good for the environment -- so that they recover their sales revenues after the customer-fucking DRM attempt with Keurig 2.0 that got them tarred and feathered.

  10. Green hypocrisy by PapayaSF · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, people who say they "care about the planet" insist on drinking a beverage made from beans grown thousands of miles away, but the real problem is the way they make their beverage, after those beans are shipped thousands of miles to them...?

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  11. Re:Bite the bullet by KGIII · · Score: 2

    Umm... Most coffee makers of the drip variety actually have this neat invention where they have lines on the side. If you use those lines and do a little bit of math - you won't have to make a whole pot of coffee. It's a fairly new technology, called "measurement." I'm sure someone will help you out if you need it. You might be able to find a book at the library.

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  12. Re: Evolution will fix it by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

    This is what my wife does. She won a Keurig and began using (and tossing away) a ton of those pods. Then, she realized she could buy a reusable pod (2 actually since they came together), buy the coffee she likes in bulk, and make it just the way she likes it. It takes slightly longer (cleaning out the pod and filling it up takes a minute at most) but the result is coffee that she likes more, which is less expensive, and which results in less waste clogging up our landfills. It's a win all around (except for the profits for the companies that sell one-time-then-trash-it pods).

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