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NASA Feed 'Goes Down As Horseshoe UFO Appears On ISS Live Cam' (mirror.co.uk)

schwit1 quotes a report from Mirror Online: NASA has been accused of an alien cover up after a live International Space Station feed appearing to show a horseshoe UFO suddenly went down. Conspiracy theorists are having a field day over the sighting of the strange U-shaped object hovering on the horizon of the the ISS. They claim NASA 'cut the live feed' after the glowing blue object flew too close to the space station. Some have even gone as far to say NASA's funding should be cut over their 'great alien deception.' Scott Waring of UFO Sightings Daily first discovered the UFO. He passed the footage on to Tyler Glockner who uploaded the video to his YouTube channel secureteam10. What do you think: is it an alien spaceship or something more likely such as a reflection from a station window?

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  1. Alien Bastards by puddingebola · · Score: 5, Funny

    First they take my dish TV out last weekend during the playoffs, now they attack the space station.

  2. Seems obvious by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clearly it was a reflection off a window. (Collects check from alien conspiracy.)

    1. Re:Seems obvious by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I agree. (Paypal from Illuminati received)

    2. Re:Seems obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It has all signs of a reflection, even the color split. Something bends the light and splits it into different wavelengths, just like a rainbow. It is red at the bottom (long waves) and blue on the top (short waves). What precisely causes this is a good question, but my guess is a curved lens/window getting hit by sunlight at a certain angle.

      I wouldn't be surprised if somebody insists the light is bend by a cloaking device though. Once people start to believe NASA stopped going to the moon because the aliens said they would attack earth if they did or talked about it, then I'm willing to believe people will claim anything to "prove" aliens exist.

    3. Re:Seems obvious by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree. The light is bent by a cloaking device. So we have double confirmation.

    4. Re: Seems obvious by D.McG. · · Score: 5, Funny

      The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.

    5. Re:Seems obvious by Layzej · · Score: 4, Informative

      Neil Tyson talks about UFOs and the argument from ignorance "UFO. The U stands for unidentified. You can't say 'I don't know what it is, so it must be an alien from outerspace visiting from another planet.' If you don't know what it is... "- https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    6. Re:Seems obvious by ryanmc1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      We have consensus. The science is now settled and anyone that says otherwise is a denier.

    7. Re:Seems obvious by omnichad · · Score: 2

      my guess is a curved lens/window getting hit by sunlight at a certain angle.

      JJ Abrams already ruined Star Trek with too much lens flare. Now he's going after real space.

    8. Re:Seems obvious by mrbester · · Score: 2

      What rating denier? If you don't specify a number you'll get rights with the wrong opacity.

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    9. Re:Seems obvious by ChrisMaple · · Score: 2

      Burberry manufactures cloaks.

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    10. Re:Seems obvious by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      And I LIKED Pluto.

      Hey, you can still like Pluto, we won't think any less of you for it. What happens between two consenting adults or space-borne objects is nobody's business but your own.

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    11. Re:Seems obvious by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Also, if you ever try to watch the feed in question: http://www.ustream.tv/embed/17... it goes down about 25 times per hour, especially when approaching populated areas. There's nothing suspicious in the coincidence that the feed went down when this image appeared - I'd be more surprised if we got 5 minutes of continuous coverage, of anything, from the ISS feed.

    12. Re: Seems obvious by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do you really believe that in 100 billion visible galaxies there isn't one speck of life?

      Oh, there is life out there. You can bet on it. But the UFO nutters aren't just saying "there is life out there," they're saying something VERY different, namely:

      1) That this life is intelligent enough to have perfected interstellar travel
      2) That it is exists coincidentally with us
      3) That it feels the need to come to this backward shithole and probe our redneck's asses.

      Yes, it's pretty arrogant to think that we're the only life in the universe. But it's even more arrogant to think that a species so incredibly advanced as to have developed a way to travel across the almost unimaginably vast distances of interstellar space would give a flying fuck about a primitive species that only recent developed simple chemical rockets.

      We wouldn't probably wouldn't even qualify as a child's ant farm to a species that advanced.

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    13. Re:Seems obvious by mindwhip · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually forget that... it's a ghost and part of the marketing campaign for the Ghostbusters reboot...

      *checks offshore account*

      what no payment? dam... maybe that was the actual truth :(

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  3. Hilarious by Sasayaki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All of this assumes:

    - NASA has enough money to pay someone to watch the feed, their hand hovering over a giant "SHUT IT ALL DOWN" button. They don't.
    - NASA knows they might have something to hide, so DOESN'T delay the live stream by one minute in case "Hey, aliens wandered into the frame, let's just static out those seconds and go oops, technical difficulties".
    - The aliens are smart enough to travel between worlds but aren't smart enough to hide from a camera that NASA could have told them, in advance, that they were pointing in this one place (space is VERY big).
    - None of the other observation devices pointed randomly at the sky (including people observing the ISS through their amateur telescopes and stuff, as people are want to do) saw this.
    - The EU, Russians, Chinese and Indians with all their hardware and observation technology (none of whom save possibly the EU have any incentive to cooperate with the US and would, in fact, leap at the chance to discredit and shame them) didn't see it either.

    The worst part is the Schroeder's competence that has to take place here. NASA have to be crazy-dedicated and funded in order to successfully cover up something as obvious as alien spacecraft whizzing around within visual range of the ISS, but also dumb enough to let it get exposed so trivially and easily as a public camera with the world watching.

    When you start to think about it even a little bit the likelihood that it's real, live, true alien visitors and not just some kind of weird light reflection, space debris, or whatever is vanishingly small.

    (...which is exactly what they WOULD say, isn't it...)

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    1. Re:Hilarious by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Your arguments are solid except the first one. Censorship of such a thing (if it were real, ha ha) would be done by the military, not by NASA. Remember, the feds have taps into all long-haul internet links in the country, all email passing across the open internet is archived and data mined (at minimum headers, but since they admit that, I'm going to assume contents) and so on. It's not a stretch to believe that there could be someone with their finger on the button there... if you could believe in aliens, especially.

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    2. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Great points.

      What kind of experience does someone need to get a job in the NASA Alien Coverup PR department? I've been looking to join in one of the great conspiracies of our age and this seems like a solid growth industry with every whack job posting their crazy opinions on YouTube. J/K, right?

    3. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      - NASA knows they might have something to hide, so DOESN'T delay the live stream by one minute in case "Hey, aliens wandered into the frame, let's just static out those seconds and go oops, technical difficulties".

      Vaguely recall that NASA instituted a FIVE minute delay on external camera feed from shuttle(?), but continued live feed from inside the craft. That was after a UFO flap several years ago. May be that is the same protocol that ISS also follows.

    4. Re:Hilarious by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      The existence of aliens would drive demands for a HUGE boost to NASA's budget. So much for conspiracies.

      But let's pretend it's a UFO - "Build a dome and make them pay for it!"

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    5. Re:Hilarious by Sasayaki · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh shit, I'm a fuckwit?

      Oh god.

      I... I never knew.

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    6. Re:Hilarious by Sasayaki · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >Maybe the aliens are in contact with NASA/Government

      If so, in't it much simpler for NASA to say to these aliens (who can travel between worlds easily), "Hey, don't fly in THIS specific spot during this specific time, by the way it's optical range for a shitty webcam on a fixed, predictable path, so like, it's really really tiny and SPACE IS BIG GUYS, just seriously avoid this tiny strip and you're fine."

      That's like them saying, "Hey aliens, when you're visiting Earth and wandering around totally undisguised, try to avoid the front door NASA headquarters because we are filming a press release there today."

      > The aliens might just be humoring the governments they're in contact with, they have no reason to hide from us or fear us

      So now they're... just trolling us?

      Space is big, so obviously, this is deliberate action. If they wanted to reveal themselves they wouldn't do so via a grainy image from the ISS; they could just appear over New York City and just hover for a while. If they wanted to hide, again, they could simply not be in this one specific spot at this one specific time.

      > Space is big, observers are few, and non-official observers are easily discredited if something slips through

      It's possible to discredit a few people, but with collaboration it becomes harder. I can concede an occasional independent voice may be silenced, but this kind of thing requires a competence that the US government has shown with literally no other part of its administration.

      > The aliens might similarly be in contact with the other space-faring governments on the planet

      That assumes that essentially the Chinese (current frenemies of the US), the EU (a group of many man disparate countries with plenty of quasi-rogue-state elements present), the Russians (traditional enemies of the US and relations are quite cold right now), the Indians (who are third-world aligned but lean toward Russia) would all agree to, under no circumstances, no matter how bad it got, no matter what, including things like the total collapse of the USSR which happened not all that long ago, or during heightened tensions such as Russia playing in the Syrian sandpit, or Russia invading Georgia, or Russia carving up the Ukraine, would never ever blab about this, ever.

      It's the same problem with fake moon landings. The Russians had roughly equal instruments pointing toward the moon and tracked every US launch made there, and put their best minds to work analyzing it (for military purposes). If the landing was fake, they would laud this over the corrupt capitalist pig-dogs for all eternity, but even they acknowledge the US was really there.

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    7. Re: Hilarious by zuckie13 · · Score: 2

      Except it's not a direct stream to the ground. ISS -> TDRS (Hands over to a new satellite three times every 90 minutes) -> Ground -> Streaming service where the guy recorded it.

    8. Re:Hilarious by RivenAleem · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is exactly the kind of misdirecting post someone at NASA would think up to deflect our attention from what they are REALLY trying to hide. How do you explain that the feed DID actually drop out after the reflection showed up?

      What if, the reflection, and the loss of feed are BOTH fabricated to distract us from something even bigger?

    9. Re:Hilarious by Sloppy · · Score: 2

      None of the other observation devices pointed randomly at the sky (including people observing the ISS through their amateur telescopes and stuff, as people are want to do) saw this.

      Yes, but every single one of those people are in on it! That is how diabolical this conspiracy is.

      The EU, Russians, Chinese and Indians with all their hardware and observation technology (none of whom save possibly the EU have any incentive to cooperate with the US and would, in fact, leap at the chance to discredit and shame them) didn't see it either.

      Them too! If there's one thing we all know, it's that humans all over the world always agree to set aside their differences and cooperate for the greater good!

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    10. Re:Hilarious by Evtim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Basically I have similar arguments when dealing with moon landing deniers. If you take into account the whole effort behind the Apollo program [20 000 companies and universities employed, more than 400 000 people only in US working on it, the constant live feed of the communications between the spacecraft and mission control [that you could listen to yourself with some decent gear], the amateur astronomers watching, the Russians watching etc. it is WAY, WAY more difficult [bordering on the impossible] to fake the landing than to simply go there! Especially in times when movie technology was so much simpler...I mean simulating zero-gravity back then? Not a chance...even today [Gravity] when they tried simulation rather than put the actors in the Vomit comet it is immediately obvious that it is a fake....

    11. Re: Hilarious by Sloppy · · Score: 2

      Yep, because if I were going to have a classified satellite, I'd put it in orbit near the ISS, where lots of different governments can easily monitor it. That way, they could all cooperate on keeping it a secret from each other.

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    12. Re:Hilarious by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The worst part is the Schroeder's competence that has to take place here. NASA have to be crazy-dedicated and funded in order to successfully cover up something as obvious as alien spacecraft whizzing around within visual range of the ISS, but also dumb enough to let it get exposed so trivially and easily as a public camera with the world watching.

      I love that term: Schroeder's competence. That's pretty standard in any conspiracy theory. The Conspiracy is a vast network with near-infinite resources and the ability to stage/cover up a complex scheme. At the same time, they are so incompetent that The Hero (usually some guy in his basement posting to YouTube) can easily expose everything they do. It's a power fantasy. "I feel completely helpless in my life so I'll imagine there's a uber-competent group controlling X and then will expose them, making myself smarter than this powerful group and all the 'sheeple' who fell for their ploy."

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    13. Re:Hilarious by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Funny

      The NSA and CIA are too busy sorting through your emails, tweets and text messages to be doing this kind of shit, you terrorist.

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    14. Re: Hilarious by Type44Q · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why does no one ever consider the [admittedly remote] possibility that the moon landings were faked... on the moon? :)

    15. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Right, because the military has the time, interest and competence to monitor all these various communications feeds and shut them down. They couldn't even stop a contractor from walking out the door of a secure facility with tons of sensitive documents.... Whenever I hear these conspiracy theories that involve the government engaging in huge multi-decade clandestine operations that are run perfectly with not a single person leaking information, my response is "I only wish my government were competent enough to actually do something like that"...

  4. Blurry by JavaBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As usual for anything "identified as UFO's" the object is blurry, suggesting the "object" was outside the field of depth, which does seem to be pretty deep as it includes infinity as well as a good amount of the station outside the window.

    Could it be that whatever it is, is very near the lens? **gasp, I used logic, I must be part of the conspiracy then.**

    1. Re:Blurry by ledow · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It has all the classic hallmarks

      - It's blurry.

      - It's impossible to gauge distance to any accuracy (but your logic is quite good to narrow the range down quite considerably).

      - It does nothing. In fact, technically, to be "an object" there it would have to be in a partnered orbit, which would mean it would have to have GOT THERE. Are we suggesting cloaking devices too?

      - Incomplete footage. It doesn't appear out of nowhere, it's just there when the footage starts DESPITE it probably being quite easy for whoever captured it to include 30 seconds more at the beginning (where you'll see that reflection / lens flare quite obviously start to come in).

      - It's indeterminate in size, shape. Thus it's probably not an object. And the only thing it doesn't have indeterminate (but which is because of the above) is "speed", which is actually more working against it being anything interesting .

      - It's then zoomed into to "see more detail". Please, please, stop doing this. We're not in Bladerunner.

      Honestly, guys, I would love to witness such a thing. I firmly believe in the Drake equation. I virtually guarantee you there's "something" out there. I also mathematically virtually-guarantee you (I'm a mathematician, certainty is a big word) that we'll never be in the same time/space/evolution that we'd ever be able to communicate usefully.

      I would love to see such a thing in my lifetime. That's a truly ground-breaking thing to be witness to (Where were you when Kennedy was shot, who cares? Where were you when we found out about the aliens? Much more interesting to tell your grandchildren).

      But this sort of shite just makes me shake my head, and I've never seen anything EXCEPT this sort of shite. And so my above beliefs label me - by proxy - as some kind of nutter if expressed poorly.

      Would love to see an alien. This isn't it. It's precisely what all the others are. An unidentified "something" (I can't even call it an object, I think it's lens flare thus an optical effect). And the vast, vast, vast, vast balance of probability is that I could set up a camera and replicate this effect almost perfectly in minutes with an innocent setup (e.g. lens flare, object behind the camera and glass window in front, etc.).

      Nutters, the lot of you.

  5. Where? by imashination · · Score: 2

    Is it hiding behind the lens flare from the sunrise on the left?

  6. God by ledow · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear God,

    I'd like to file a bug report.

  7. Maybe NASA is just the first to fall by Cyphase · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe the aliens cut out the feed themselves. Maybe they're now in control of NASA. Maybe the invasion.. is beginning..

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  8. Re:Unconscionable by phishybongwaters · · Score: 2

    How exactly did this shutdown change your life for the worse? Did you even apply for the jobs you are complaining about? Do you realize that most jobs don't pay a relocation fee? Let me guess, you are also one of those people who thinks healthcare should be a paid for industry, and you'll be DAMNED before you put money into a fund that helps people other than yourself.

  9. UFO? I think not. by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    But it probably is a cover-up: this blob looks very much like some kind of flying grassy knoll.

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  10. If it were aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aliens would be the biggest thing to happen to NASA ever. It would mean an unlimited budget and hiding any alien encounter would be against their best interests.

    1. Re: If it were aliens by nintendoeats · · Score: 2

      But...why would a race that has control over time and space want to run an under-funded government agency?...

    2. Re: If it were aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Same reason they run the DMV. On their home world, bureaucracy was the lowest and most reviled form of torture, apart from throwing an entire species to the Lizard pits of Zith and or dropping a clone bomb with the dial set to "Flying Sarlacs of Yendor". For species they really and truly despise, they prefer the slow sisyphean cannibalism of bureaucracy.

  11. "Appears" by SB5407 · · Score: 2

    The video doesn't show it "appearing", the video starts with it there. And it doesn't move or do anything interesting. Disappointing.

    1. Re:"Appears" by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2

      Yeah, alien spacecraft can hover. Big whoop...

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  12. It's a mic by tgibson · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its just a boom mic getting into the shot on the soundstage. You UFO-believers and your wacky theories *rolls eyes*

  13. Oh dear fucking god.... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    Why dont we just change the name of slashdot to Gawker media?

    Really This is news? you guys are now grabbing crap from nutjob whack sites? I hears there is some great stuff out there on 4chan.

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  14. Technically it can't be a UFO by clickety6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Technically it can't be a UFO because if it's that high above the atmosphere, it can't be flying :)

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    1. Re:Technically it can't be a UFO by hufter · · Score: 2

      Define flying.

    2. Re:Technically it can't be a UFO by bkr1_2k · · Score: 2

      Falling. With style.

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  15. Re:OT: wont, not want by Sasayaki · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not a writer, I'm a typoist.

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  16. Just a Communications Handover by zuckie13 · · Score: 5, Informative

    ISS does not have a magic WIFI connection to the ground to stream video 24x7 ISS transmits to the TDRS satellites in Geostationary Orbit which in turn transmit to the ground. It takes three satellites to maintain full voice communication all the way around (East, West, Gap). There are handovers of the communications three times every 90 minutes. Brief video outages are to be expected. NASA can't control when those happen. They just happen when the orbital mechanics say they will.

  17. coffee break by bkmoore · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess the UFO- detection worker was making a cup of coffee and smoking a Lucky when this UFO first appeared and was a little slow on the "chicken switch".

  18. Object is probably a classified satellite by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most likely the kind used by governments to spy on their people.

  19. Remember what the U in UFO stands for by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What do you think: is it an alien spaceship or something more likely such as a reflection from a station window?

    Have you forgotten what the "U" in UFO stands for? When you see a UFO you should stop right there. It's unidentified so you don't know what it is. You can make a list of possible explanations but until you have evidence to establish or refute any given explanation you shouldn't go further. If the "evidence" for the UFO is eye-witness testimony then you should examine the drinking habits of the observer.

    There is a saying that when you hear the sound of hoofs you should probably be thinking horses instead of zebras. Point is that there are innumerable explanations FAR more likely than an alien visitation. In fact alien visitation should be at the absolute bottom of any list of possible explanations of a UFO sighting. You might keep it on the list just because you cannot definitively rule it out but it doesn't move higher on the list unless you have some VERY compelling evidence. Some visual artifacts on film doesn't remotely qualify as very compelling.

  20. What's with the vitriol? by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Neil Tyson needs to stfu and recognize the fact that no matter how hard he tries he will never be Carl Sagan.

    Does this anger of yours towards NdGT have a point? Did he pee in your cereal bowl or something?

    And I LIKED Pluto.

    And what is stopping you from continuing to like Pluto? NdGT didn't blow it up with a cannon or anything. Last I checked it's still there, same as it ever was. Even has a heart on it to make it extra lovable.

    1. Re:What's with the vitriol? by penandpaper · · Score: 4, Funny

      NdGT didn't blow it up with a cannon or anything.

      That's what the government wants you to think.

    2. Re:What's with the vitriol? by BadBlood · · Score: 2

      And we're gonna make the Klingons pay for it.

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  21. Pony up by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    I for one welcome our giant Equestrian Overlords.

  22. I cannot believe they still think this is a UFO by ramriot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is a well known optical issue, where a point source or illumination outside the field of view (sun) scatters light off the diaphragm edges inside the lens (almost square when fully stopped down). The light then passes back out the lens to reflect a second time of the front elements inside surface. This results in multiple images of the point source appearing at a point in the frame that are out of focus and appear to drift and merge.

    Bet you anything you like, if the camera had been even slightly tilted during that clip the "UFO" would have shot across the frame at an integer multiple of the angular tilt.

    This effect in a slightly different manner for UFO believers is repeated often when they insist on seeing Diamond UFO's in video footage taken with a camcorder at full zoom with the iris and focus on auto. What they see with their eyes is an unfamiliar point source of light (planet, plane etc), what the camera see's is an out of focus point source vignetted by the iris to a diamond shape with often the light meter filter giving the bottom half a red or green hue.

  23. Re: Now do you believe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    God does not play horseshoes with the universe.