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Google's Ray Kurzweil Wants To Live Forever, and He Thinks It Includes Nanobots (playboy.com)

Reader Esther Schindler writes: Whatever else he is (author, computer scientist, inventor, futurist, Google employee), Ray Kurzweil is undeniably fascinating, with intriguing predictions about the future -- some of which might be accurate. In an interview, he discusses life extension and technology, as well as how he thinks they'll be connected. "When people talk about the future of technology, especially artificial intelligence, they very often have the common dystopian Hollywood-movie model of us versus the machines. My view is that we will use these tools as we've used all other tools -- to broaden our reach. And in this case, we'll be extending the most important attribute we have, which is our intelligence." Part of what I like is that he sees ways to use technology for good and not for evil. "By the 2030s we will have nanobots that can go into a brain non-invasively through the capillaries, connect to our neocortex and basically connect it to a synthetic neocortex that works the same way in the cloud. So we'll have an additional neocortex, just like we developed an additional neocortex 2 million years ago, and we'll use it just as we used the frontal cortex: to add additional levels of abstraction. We'll create more profound forms of communication than we're familiar with today, more profound music and funnier jokes. We'll be funnier. We'll be sexier. We'll be more adept at expressing loving sentiments."Kurzweil also thinks his diet can help him live forever. Kurzweil claims that he spends "a few thousand dollars per day" (or roughly a million dollar a year) on diet pills and eating right. According to a Financial Times report from last year, Kurzweil's breakfast includes:Berries (85 calories for a cup), Dark chocolate infused with espresso (170 calories for an ounce), Smoked salmon and mackerel (100 calories for a 3-ounce serving), Vanilla soy milk (100 calories for a cup) Stevia (zero calories), Porridge (150 to 350 calories for half a cup, depending on ingredients and cooking method), and Green tea (zero calories). Kurzweil takes 100 pills a day (down from 250 a few years ago, technology has advanced, you see) for "heart health" to "eye health, sexual health, and brain health."

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  1. Whatever else he is by PvtVoid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Whatever else he is, Kurzweil is undeniably a self-promoting hack who is almost always completely wrong about everything.

    Sorry. He's going to die just like the rest of us.

    1. Re:Whatever else he is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      He's going to die just like the rest of us

      ...and probably from liver damage, considering he takes 100 pills a day.

    2. Re: Whatever else he is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If nothing else, he must have beautiful urine.

    3. Re: Whatever else he is by dadelbunts · · Score: 2

      I imagine it looks like an oil slick

    4. Re:Whatever else he is by dadelbunts · · Score: 2

      You can talk about life extension. But if you ever heard Kurzweil talk about life extension you would know that he is batshit insane.

    5. Re:Whatever else he is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You must be that "space nutter" guy. Unlike immortality, space is actually real and a place we've been before. Try again, luddite.

    6. Re:Whatever else he is by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      He's going to die just like the rest of us

      I hope not to die having choked to death on pills. I eat this ribeye in the hopes of a very manly heart attack just like everyone else.

    7. Re:Whatever else he is by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't know if he is completely wrong about everything. Some of his predictions are spot on and others seem less so. For example, back in the late 2000s he predicted a one-world government by 2020. Pretty sure that's not going to happen. http://lesswrong.com/lw/diz/kurzweils_predictions_good_accuracy_poor/ has a good analysis which suggests that Kurzweil is more accurate than many other people making predictions but at the same time he's highly overconfident in his predictions. See also http://lesswrong.com/lw/gbi/assessing_kurzweil_the_results/.

    8. Re:Whatever else he is by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 3

      That's actually WHY Slashdot hates Transhumanism

      No, we hate it because it sounds like new-age trash, unsubstantiated by actual data beyond believable ambitions.

    9. Re:Whatever else he is by tnk1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Personally, I think he's just over-enthusiastic and drinking his own Kool-Aid. I believe he's sincere, but lacks a certain sense of realism about where things are going and the actual challenges inherent in it.

      I think we need people like that to sort of keep things moving forward, as it is far too easy to simply accept the world the way it is. Just as long as we collectively maintain a balanced perspective about what we are actually doing in regard to reality.

    10. Re:Whatever else he is by colinrichardday · · Score: 2

      We know of animals that appear not to age and live considerably longer than humans

      What are these animals? Tortoises?

  2. madness by JustNiz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >> Kurzweil claims that he spends "a few thousand dollars per day" (or roughly a million dollar a year) on diet pills and eating right. Kurzweil takes 100 pills a day (down from 250 a few years ago...

    Typical American "Money is the answer to everything" mindset. The obvious proof that it doesn't work is that he still actually looks his age.
    It seems to me that the best thing you can do for yourself is eat simply and regularly exercise, avoid drugs, live a happy stress-free life (which includes not worrying about things you can't change, such as aging/death and the insane belief that there's a pill for everything).

    1. Re:madness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      He may be a nut, but he's doing something different than most people, so it constitutes a meaningful experiment, albeit not a very good one. No one can say for sure at the moment that his diet won't work for extending life, but should it eventually be the case that he lives an extraordinary length of time, it will be reasonable to suggest that his diet may have had something to do with it. It seems unlikely, but if he wants to do the experiment on himself, I'll be interested to see how it turns out.

    2. Re:madness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's an incorrect quote from the article, the article actually says:

      > I ask how much this regime costs. “It’s a few thousand dollars a year. But it’s not one size fits all. A healthy 30-year-old might just need basic supplements”

      So it's a few thousand a year, not a few thousand a day. Geez editors, wtf?

    3. Re:madness by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      He isn't doing anything different. There are a million wackjobs out there that experiment with diets and pills.

  3. I like Kurzweil by JMZero · · Score: 2

    I think he's entertaining, and he has some interesting, creative ideas.

    But I think his stuff is interesting proportionally with how far away in time he's referring to. Distant future? Fun speculative ideas. Right now? Pseudo-science speculative nonsense.

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  4. I feel fantastic by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Funny

    I get up early when the sleeping pill wakes me
    I take a wake up pill and fill with energy
    I power on hard and I check my messages
    But I don't have any messages
    I take a driving pill and head to my car
    I drive around a bit 'cause work isn't very far ...
    Work is over but I can't stay to work late
    Got to leave and get ready for my second date
    With a pretty girl that I met at the pharmacy
    Right in the prescription line
    I take a pill for my social anxiety
    I get a table and a nice bottle of chablis
    Now it's getting late and there's still no sign of her
    I have another glass of wine

    All I know is the wine lasts longer when you don't gotta share it with someone
    All I know is the steak tastes better when I take my steak tastes better pill

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  5. If nothing else.... by Danathar · · Score: 2

    When and if he does die, hopefully he has a clause donating his body to science so we can see the effect of all those pills

  6. 100 pills a day, keeps the doctor away. by Mats+Svensson · · Score: 5, Funny

    To be fair, 50 of those are laxatives, to dislodge the log-jam from the other 50 pills.

  7. What about the Slashdot Interview? by CaptainJeff · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ray never responded to the Slashdot interview that was begun in December. https://features.slashdot.org/...

    1. Re:What about the Slashdot Interview? by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ray never responded to the Slashdot interview that was begun in December. https://features.slashdot.org/... [slashdot.org]

      Quit being impatient; he has at least 500 years left for finishing.

  8. Bah by jpatters · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What good is living forever if you can't enjoy a bacon cheeseburger from time to time?

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  9. "I found them. They're natural." by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Kurzweil claims that he spends "a few thousand dollars per day" (or roughly a million dollar a year) on diet pills and eating right. According to a Financial Times report from last year, Kurzweil's breakfast includes: Berries (85 calories for a cup)

    If my diet consisted largely of diet pills and "berries"--just "berries", no particular kind--I'm pretty sure I would be making wild predictions about the future too. That doesn't mean you should listen to them.

  10. Re:What's good for Moses... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Funny

    After he retired, he took a long walk in the desert every morning for 40 years!

    He could have lived longer. Unfortunately, he moved into a bad retirement community that grumbled about every little thing.

  11. Big data, medicine, and understanding by RyanCharmley · · Score: 2

    Recently saw Kurzweil speak at TECHBC and have read one of his books. The advancement in life expectancy he is referring to is derived from the advancement of nanobot technologies that will allow us to better address the limitations we have today based on the natural evolution of our DNA. The idea is that as medicine becomes understood by big data, we can remove the trial and error approach that largely drives it today, with tailor made technology solutions to promote and fix our natural biological deficiencies. The pills alone will not prevent death, yet his intent is to remain as healthy as possible while medical technologies evolve to the point where we can promote and maintain long-term health. Here are a couple interesting Slashdot articles speaking to nanobot technology. https://hardware.slashdot.org/... https://science.slashdot.org/s...

  12. Obviously not dedicated to life extension by Immerman · · Score: 2

    I particularly like the "sexual health" pills, considering that one of the few verified ways we know of to considerably extend mammalian life is complete sterilization (verified in humans by analyzing church documents containing the lifespans of choir castratos versus the unmodified monks they lived alongside)

    The only other verified means of extending life I can think of offhand is extreme calorie restriction, and to look at him he doesn't practice that either.

    So, available evidence is he's just another wishful thinker hoping for a magical quick fix. Worse, he may actually believe that immortality is on the horizon, but is clearly unwilling to make the sacrifices we actually know would give him a much better chance of living long enough to benefit from further discoveries.

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  13. Re:What's good for Moses... by Immerman · · Score: 2

    But why would you want to wait to retire until you're to ill or feeble to enjoy it?

    Besides, life expectancy in the US is ~79 years - just to live an expected 30 years beyond your day of retirement would require retiring at 49.

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  14. Doubtful by Greyfox · · Score: 2
    Throughout the ages, there are plenty of guys who wanted to live forever. From kings in Egypt using the latest pyramid-building technologies to the alchemists in the middle ages experimenting on their own bodies with completely unknown substances to cryogenics guys a decade or two ago. You know what all those guys have in common? They're all thought immortality was right around the corner, and they're all dead now.

    I expect this trend to continue at least another several hundred years, assuming humanity actually makes it that long and doesn't slide back into another dark ages along the way. The body is the most complex system we've ever encountered, and we're still just poking at it without completely understanding what we're doing.

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    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?