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Valve Inks Deal With Lionsgate Adding Over 100 Movie Titles To Steam Platform (hothardware.com)

MojoKid quotes a report from HotHardware: Valve took a major step in growing its Steam digital distribution platform today by adding movie rentals to the mix. The addition of movies to Steam's catalog is a first, and it was made possible through a deal with Lionsgate Entertainment that immediately fleshes out the service with more than 100 flicks. Steam is currently the biggest digital distribution platform for games, and while it has a long way to go before it can claim the same for movies, there's little doubt Valve wants to take it there. In a press release announcing the deal, Valve said Lionsgate was "one of the first major studios to license films" for streaming on Steam, which hints that it's attempting to lure other studios as well. You can view the entire catalog here.

117 comments

  1. The Twilight Series on Steam!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's something i'll sell my sparkly csgo knife for!

    1. Re:The Twilight Series on Steam!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't. You'll need that knife to dust the sparkly vampires.

    2. Re:The Twilight Series on Steam!? by GNious · · Score: 0

      I can see 11 movies there, 5 of which are called "Leprechaun", and none that I've ever heard of.

    3. Re:The Twilight Series on Steam!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are too young then. They're all campy by todays standards, but they are supposed to be scary. A Leprechaun owes you a wish, but will twist it in very bad ways.

    4. Re:The Twilight Series on Steam!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can you not know the Leprechaun franchise? It put Warwick Davis' kids through school and gave the world Jennifer Aniston.

    5. Re:The Twilight Series on Steam!? by kingrat · · Score: 1

      commenting to remove wrong moderation...this was funny, but I mis-clicked.

    6. Re:The Twilight Series on Steam!? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Same goes for his godamn cereals. You're asking for an easy and tasty breakfast and all you get in return is diabetes and cavities.

  2. Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why would I pay $5 for a rental?

    1. Re:Insane by JeffSh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      i dunno. i feel the same but isnt it funny? My family ran video stores in the 90s and 3 dollars was the usual rental fee for new releases.

      look at how much our value perception has changed because of technology.

      also whats changed is our ability to afford minor entertainments.

    2. Re: Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's so true, thanks to grocery inflation and stagnent wage growth nobody can afford luxury items anymore.

    3. Re: Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Becuz steem iz cuul, duh...

      Some of the flicks you can buy on Amazon and then you'll have forever, even after Steam goes tits up! The cost of a one-time rental is nearly as high as the price for the DVD or even BD version. The discs often also have special features, so unless you REALLY don't have room for a tiny, skinny piece of plastic... you're probably better off buying.

      By renting, you're essentially betting that you'll only want to watch the movie ONCE.

      What if you like the movie? Then you'd feel pretty stupid, wouldn't you?

    4. Re:Insane by blindseer · · Score: 1

      I remember in the 1990s and perhaps late 1980s when it seemed that video rentals was a side job of all kinds of businesses. I had to wonder if there wasn't some sort of background infrastructure to support these video rental side jobs. There had to be since I doubt that these stores went through the effort and expense of buying a pile of VHS tapes at retail prices hoping that someone picking up a pack of smokes would on impulse rent a video for the evening.

      When I say all kinds of businesses did video rentals I mean all kinds. I recall seeing video rentals at movie theaters, filling stations, grocery stores, furniture shops, ice cream parlors, barber shops, and I probably missed a few. This faded in time when places like Blockbuster opened up to offer a selection and price that these small shops could not compete with. Of course Blockbuster had it's troubles begin with greater access to cable and satellite programming.

      I believe the last nail in the Blockbuster coffin wasn't high speed internet, it was city libraries getting in the business of keeping media besides print. No one is going to rent a video from a shop when the library will let you do the same for free.

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    5. Re:Insane by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      They need to do better than Twilight and Hunger, both embarrassingly derivative, repetitious, shallowly acted and content-free.

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    6. Re:Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the last nail in the Blockbuster coffin wasn't high speed internet, it was city libraries getting in the business of keeping media besides print. No one is going to rent a video from a shop when the library will let you do the same for free.

      No one? I'm pretty sure there were quite a few people who gladly paid a couple of bucks to rent a video from Blockbuster on the day of their choosing rather than waiting days or weeks for one of the library's copies to become available.

      I mean, paying for convenience is the whole business model underpinning Free To Play video games. (Not that I expect publishers of such games will be getting any of your money anytime soon, but LOTS of people DO pay.)

    7. Re:Insane by blindseer · · Score: 1

      Saying that no one would pay for something when a free option exists is a bit hyperbolic since, as you point out, there are reasons that people would do such a thing. What is undeniable is that Blockbuster exists only in name right now. The only property they have of value right now is their name and some sundry office supplies. That name only exists because at one time they had a successful business model and some people recognize it enough from a decade ago that they will keep going back.

      The point is that at one time video rentals was a booming business that now exists only as a niche market. Lots of things brought on this effective demise, such as ubiquitous satellite and cable TV services, high speed internet, cheap digital storage, and (IMHO the last straw) municipal libraries keeping numerous videos available for people to use for free.

      Blockbuster had at one time over 5000 stores in the USA, perhaps many thousands more than that. Now they have about 50. So, yes, people will pay to rent a video even though it may be available at a library. What they are more likely to do is rent or buy it online than rent a copy delivered on physical media.

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    8. Re:Insane by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Adjusting for inflation $5 isn't too bad for 1080p, assuming there are no adverts etc. But only for new releases, otherwise people are going to expect Netflix level pricing ($10/month for all you can watch).

      In any case, the DRM kills it. I don't want to watch movies on my computer monitor, I want to watch them on my TV. Kodi doesn't support their DRM, and there is no app for my smart TV. As usual, the DRM version is inferior to the pirate version.

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    9. Re:Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They still rent CD's in Japan. You can still rent DVD's in North America, but largely only if you are in a small town that doesn't have a place that sells them because they're too expensive to keep in stock.

      Places that have poor internet, eg Alaska, Northern BC, Eastern Oregon, Eastern Washington state, Nunavut, and such still have rental places because it's too expensive to hook every town up with high speed internet, often any upgrades made to big cities, never even come to these places. As an example there are towns with less than 500 people that don't even have Cell phone service, there are also towns that only have EDGE/GPRS or no data at all. If you are are a social media type of person you'll feel helpless in those places. If you happen to own a game console that most of your purchases are made online... well you may as well mail your game console to your friend who lives in a large city so they can download all your games for you.

      Blockbuster went under because piracy made it more convenient to download a pirate copy from the internet than rent the disc and rip a copy to your digital media library. Since blue ray discs are 25-50GB, and bandwidth caps are still in the low 100GB range, you're not going to waste your internet bandwidth downloading two movies you might not like. But you can watch several minutes on Netflix to see if it's even something you want to buy.

      Netflix's dvd rental service and Amazon.com is what ultimately made Blockbuster and such irrelevant. When you can buy a disc for 5$, you're not going to rent it for 5$.

    10. Re:Insane by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      I don't want to watch movies on my computer monitor, I want to watch them on my TV. Kodi doesn't support their DRM, and there is no app for my smart TV.

      So? Then use Amazon, Vudu or PSN/SEN. They have more movies anyway.

    11. Re:Insane by CronoCloud · · Score: 2

      Well some people just want to watch a movie once, and that's pretty much the standard price across the various services.

      http://store.steampowered.com/...

      https://store.playstation.com/...

      http://smile.amazon.com/Hunger...

      http://www.vudu.com/movies/#!c...

      https://play.google.com/store/...

    12. Re:Insane by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Then use Amazon, Vudu or PSN/SEN.

      Kodi and my smart TV don't support any of those things either. Just sell me a damn .mkv file with H.264 video and DTS audio. Problem solved.

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    13. Re:Insane by NotDrWho · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but you get *100* titles to choose from!

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    14. Re:Insane by NotDrWho · · Score: 1

      Maybe they're targeting the 13-year-old girl demographic.

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    15. Re:Insane by zabbey · · Score: 1

      Rent + Screen Recording software will do what you want.

    16. Re:Insane by cstdenis · · Score: 1

      Piracy will do it faster and easier.

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    17. Re:Insane by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Kodi

      One of the drawbacks of using an XBMC/Kodi centric setup is you don't have the "mainstream video store" options.

      [quote]and my smart TV don't support any of those things either.

      Older model? Most "smart" TV's these days have Amazon or Vudu....or both. Some even have PSN/SEN. Can it do DLNA? And even if your TV doesn't have Amazon, Vudu or even DLNA, many blu-ray players do, not even taking into account game consoles.

      Just sell me a damn .mkv file with H.264 video and DTS audio.

      MP4 containers have wider device support than MKV. Sure the XBMC/Kodi crowd who watches on their PC uses it basically because the Russian/Eastern European pirates favor it (partly because of local bias) and then it caught on as being "more l33t", but MKV containers are not widely supported on consumer devices.

      You're better off with MP4 containers with AAC audio, or AVCHD with AC3 or LPCM audio (m2ts) if you want surround sound

    18. Re:Insane by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      My TV is a 2012 model, so not really very old. Amazon is available on the US model, but not the European model for some reason. It supports MKV containers, FWIW.

      MP4 would fine fine too. Just something without DRM that plays on a majority of devices.

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    19. Re:Insane by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      > No one? I'm pretty sure there were quite a few people who gladly paid a couple of bucks to rent a video from Blockbuster on the day of their choosing rather than waiting days or weeks for one of the library's copies to become available

      Except Blockbuster had the same exact problem.

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    20. Re:Insane by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      ...except modern piracy methods paint a big fat target on your back. You're better off just waiting on Netflix to mail you the physical media.

      Same net effect, perfectly legal, doesn't advertise you as a pirate to the world.

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    21. Re:Insane by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      MP4 has inferior codec support. Something simple and obvious like "a re-compressed DVD" is not an option it's capable of handling.

      MKV was created because Apple fanboys shriek at anyone the least bit creative and call them pirates.

      Non-apple devices all seem to be remarkably less lame when it comes to format support. This even includes h264 options.

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    22. Re:Insane by CronoCloud · · Score: 0

      MP4 has inferior codec support.

      What do you mean by that? MPEG4 IS a Codec, and it has the widest support.

      Something simple and obvious like "a re-compressed DVD" is not an option it's capable of handling.

      What do you mean by that? DVDs are ALREADY compressed MPEG2. If you want to recompress a DVD MPEG2 stream to MPEG4 you can do that. I've done it in Handbrake many many times.

      MKV was created because Apple fanboys shriek at anyone the least bit creative and call them pirates.

      MKV is a CONTAINER, not a Codec. In fact most MKV's are MPEG4 video And how is it "creative" for the Russian pirates who created MKV to use it for pirating US made media.

      Non-apple devices all seem to be remarkably less lame when it comes to format support. This even includes h264 options.

      MPEG4 has varying profile levels which describe the feature support. Baseline, Main, or High. You encode for the target device.

    23. Re:Insane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah but there were a ton of places that did $1 rentals too -

  3. Comcast/ISPs will now throttle Steam. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they publish movies, they are now a threat to Comcast and other ISPs television operations. Bandwidth will suddenly be restricted.

    1. Re:Comcast/ISPs will now throttle Steam. by known_coward_69 · · Score: 0

      so how does itunes and vudu stream movies in HD with no problems?

    2. Re:Comcast/ISPs will now throttle Steam. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't. I stream hulu, netflix, youtube all just fine in HD. My one purchase from Vudu stopped, paused, buffered, etc. like it was 1999.

  4. Smart gamble by rmdingler · · Score: 1
    With Netflix competing with HBO for original programming dominance, I assumed the HBOgo folks would expand first in this direction,

    but this is a respectfully calculated move by Steam to move where the market is headed.

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    1. Re:Smart gamble by known_coward_69 · · Score: 0

      itunes and vudu have been around for years

    2. Re:Smart gamble by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Yeah, so? Netflix and HBO are subscription based services. iTunes, Vudu, and Steam are not. The rent/buy model is dying. Netflix isn't even considered a "streaming service" where Wal-Mart streaming and iTunes are rated. The "streaming service" category only includes pay-per-stream, which excludes the subscription models, as they don't break down streaming the same way. Hulu, HBOgo, and Netflix are a separate and non-competing service, according to the industry number-keepers.

    3. Re:Smart gamble by DrXym · · Score: 2
      If they wanted to move where the market was headed, they'd implement a programmable interface to their platform so Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, Youtube et al could have presence on the Steam platform. Since Steam already embeds webkit this should be eminently achievable - an HTML based app platform and some streaming / decryption services.

      Then and only then they could think about their own programming or rental service. But offering a seriously shitty selection of movies for streaming isn't going to convince anybody to use the platform for that purpose.

    4. Re:Smart gamble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, and YouTube are their own platforms entirely. Steam isn't integrating with its competitors. It's offering things that its competitors don't have.

      If I were directing Steam, I would absolutely pursue unique, quality content, especially before the competition gets it

    5. Re:Smart gamble by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Netflix, Hulu, Spotify et al are not their own platforms entirely. They exist on apps on Android, iOS, Windows, browsers, consoles, embedded into TVs, DVD players and so on. If I have a PS4 I can watch movies from Playstation's services but I'm not restricted to Playstation's services. And that's what Steam is competing against.

    6. Re:Smart gamble by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      They would be much better off encouraging the other streaming services to integrate with SteamOS. That might even have the nice side effect of benefiting XBMC and MythTV. HELL, the might as well just integrate XBMC into Steam and have the streaming services make XBMC plugins.

      Don't re-invent the wheel or worry that a few enthusiasts will benefit from the work too.

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  5. sooo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So does the 2 hour refund limit still apply? ;)

    1. Re:sooo by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      The MPAA says no. But for $4.99 you can rent it for 48 hours.

    2. Re:sooo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      aw thats no fun!

  6. Pi by DavidMZ · · Score: 0

    The catalog includes Pi, the 1st full-length movie of Darren Aronofsky which I would like to recommend to the /. crowd. I still love this movie, even after I watched Tsukamoto's "Tetsuo, the iron man" which inspired Aranofsky a lot.

    1. Re:Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its Geo location based, in Australia there are 11 titles. Cant wait for the day there is a global day and date release set up for movies and not territorial.

    2. Re:Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't hold your breath. As long as companies like Valve continue to screw over users by agreeing to these distribution terms the problem will persist indefinitely.

    3. Re:Pi by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      The catalog includes Pi, the 1st full-length movie of Darren Aronofsky which I would like to recommend to the /. crowd. I still love this movie, even after I watched Tsukamoto's "Tetsuo, the iron man" which inspired Aranofsky a lot.

      It also includes the Leapfrog educational series for toddlers. Thats probably what you are going to get on Steam.

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    4. Re:Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like the kind of guy who blames everybody except the actual responsible party.

      In other words, a moron.

    5. Re:Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only time anyone ever watches "Tetsuo, the Iron Man" is when it's projected on a concrete wall at punk rock gigs.

    6. Re:Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and one of those is a combo-set of 4 of the others.
      So in reality, the 10 we get are

      Leprechaun 1-4
      Natural Born Pranksters
      Blue Mountain State: The Rise of Thailand
      Two Family House
      Deck the Halls
      Russkies
      Return of the Living Dead 3

  7. Smoking Man by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish Valve would ink a fucking deal to make Half-Life 3. I don't need their movies.

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    1. Re:Smoking Man by heypete · · Score: 1

      Seriously. I'm 33 and HL2 came out when I was 21. I've got a nearly two-year-old daughter now, and I'm hoping that I'll be able to play HL3 sometime before she's old enough to play HL2.

      Don't get me wrong: I love all the other Valve-produced games like the Portal series, Left 4 Dead, Team Fortress, etc., but there's a special place in my heart for the HL series.

    2. Re:Smoking Man by RogueyWon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Half-Life 3 will never happen. It's not in Valve's commercial interest any more.

      Valve isn't really a games developer any more; it's a platform holder. Remember that, while the precise arrangements sometimes vary per customer, it generally takes around 30% of the value of each sale on Steam. It's putting very little money into the development of those games (hosting/bandwidth costs for the store and some multiplayer/social backend for the majority of games), but is taking a huge amount of revenue from them. By contrast, when it develops and sells its own games, it needs to front up the costs and take a lot more of the commercial risk.

      This is broadly similar to how things work on the consoles. Sony and MS take the costs of hardware development and fund first and third-party exclusive titles to grow the installed base, but their real income comes from the licensing fees. Nintendo still tries to make the first-party model work, but has been struggling with it since the launch of the 3DS.

      Valve has a further advantage over Sony and MS in that its platform is an evolutionary one, rather than one with major hardware shifts once or twice a decade. Once the installed base for Steam was there, Valve didn't really need to put much effort into growing it through first-party development. It therefore focusses its first-party development on new markets; see its recent investment in VR via the HTC Vive and its software suite.

      But even if Valve doesn't need to make Half-Life 3, is there a reason why it shouldn't do so anyway, given the game would almost certainly be profitable?

      Actually, yes...

      Steam's success is predicated on wide participation by developers and publishers. The one thing that could really hurt Steam would be for a critical mass of major publishers to withdraw. EA have already taken their ball and gone home to Origin. Ubisoft has tried to draw people over to uPlay, but has had less success so far and still tends to depend on Steam for the backend of some of its games. But if Valve wants to keep the major publishers on board, then it can't afford to compete with them directly. Most of Valve's output since HL2 has taken the form of experimental or niche titles, like Portal or Left 4 Dead. For Valve to put out a major AAA shooter would send worrying signals to a lot of its major parties. So it won't.

      At this point, the only real prospect for seeing HL3 would be if Valve sold the rights to the series to a third party, which is itself vanishingly unlikely.

    3. Re: Smoking Man by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

      Well some of this logic circles back; see, Steam took off because of Half Life 2. And that userbase attracted more content. Which attracted more users. So there is this positive loop in the userbase-content relationship, but with a damping factor; content is the prime mover and users follow good content more than good content follows users.

      I think Steam need to play market-maker again.

    4. Re:Smoking Man by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Half-Life 3 will never happen. It's not in Valve's commercial interest any more.

      That's why I said "ink a deal". They need to sell the property to someone who will make the game. The game won't make them any money as long as it's unmade.

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    5. Re:Smoking Man by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I could go for Portal 3 right about now.

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    6. Re: Smoking Man by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      I addressed this in my post. Valve needed Half-Life 2 to get Steam off the ground and give it an initial user-base. But it has that user-base now. Half-Life 3 would not persuade anybody who does not currently use Steam to start using it.

      For console-manufacturers, the best part of the cycle is typically the mid-late part. The installed base is significant and games sales are strong. The money is rolling in without them having to do very much (although if they're smart, they will be beginning development on a successor). By contrast, new console launches are horrible for them; lots of cost, lots of risk and those expensive first-party games are only selling to early-adopters.

      Until something happens to undermine their business model, Valve essentially gets to live perpetually in the mid-late part of the cycle. PC hardware means that there are no "big bangs" that mean you have to start over from scratch in terms of the installed base. They can sit back, rake in the profits they make from the third party eco-system and put their own investment into longer-term ventures such as SteamOS and VR. Putting out new AAA first-party games would be a pointless risk at this point.

    7. Re: Smoking Man by AntiSol · · Score: 1

      You make an interesting point saying that it's in valve's interest to not compete with other developers and publishers. I hadn't thought of that point.

      I think that one other thing which would potentially see a HL3 would be if the users started abandoning steam. This falls into the "undermine their business model" category you listed above. If steam were to start losing market share (say to GOG's galaxy platform or something else) then I think we'd be likely to see a HL3 as a desperation "we need money" move.

      Until then, valve are happy to just keep letting the money rolling in and shitting on the fanboys who got them where they are.

      Comment from Gabe Newel in 2015:

      We aren't going to go all retro because there are too many interesting things that have been learned. The only reason we would go back and do a 'super classic' kind of product is if a whole bunch of people internally at Valve said they wanted to do it, and had a reasonable explanation for why it was.

      Which sounds like marketer-speak for "we don't give a shit anymore, we have steam now. Eat a dick."

  8. The New Email by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    It used to be said that all applications expand until they contain an email client...

    It seems these days that all applications expand until they form video licensing arrangements with some facet of Hollywood.

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    1. Re:The New Email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In emacs you can actually M-x arrange-hollywood-licensing-arrangement and it evaluates the contents of the currently loaded buffers, clusters around terms used in box-office promotion, and automatically sends out targeted emails designed to maximize potential revenue with a variety of different media distributors.

  9. Just Me? by grimfate · · Score: 2

    I looked and there are 11 movies, all B-movie crap. Have they not launched all 100 titles yet, or is this because I am based outside the US?

    1. Re:Just Me? by zedaroca · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm in Brazil, "11 tiles" as well.

      Leprechaun 4 movie collection
      Leprechaun 3
      Leprechaun
      Natural Born Pranksters
      Two Family House
      Deck the Halls
      Return of the Living Dead 3
      Russkies
      Leprechaun 2
      Leprechaun 4: Lost in Space
      Blue Mountain State: The Rise of Thadland

    2. Re: Just Me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, you poor, sorry, living-outside-the-US-bastards... Yes. It's just you. We who are blessed to live inside the United States get all ONE HUNDRED of these mostly shitty films, AND the opportunity for other uniquely American things you don't get to enjoy, like bacon-wrapped bacon-flavored bacon ice cream, a type two diabetes epidemic, and mass-shooting of the week, EVERY WEEK!

      Also, we've found a way to turn out national leadership elections into a goddamned fucking reality show. You don't get that, even if you live in Toronto!

      I know you're all super-jelly!

    3. Re:Just Me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got the Hunger Games in mine.

    4. Re:Just Me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm visiting Thailand for work and we have the same crappy selection as you. Hello my brother in crappy-streaming-offerings arms.

    5. Re:Just Me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same 11 titles in Australia.

      I'd be tempted to see the Leprechaun series if it wasn't AU$10.35 to _rent_.

    6. Re:Just Me? by Torp · · Score: 1

      11 movies here too (Romania). Feels like the Netflix launch, except Netflix was priced reasonably. Or would have been priced reasonably if it had the full US movie selection...

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    7. Re:Just Me? by LordNightwalker · · Score: 1

      Same here, Belgium.

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    8. Re:Just Me? by ryanmc1 · · Score: 1

      I'm in the US. I see 70 movies

  10. Related news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I added 1 new movie to my personal library, it is Heidi for my young son. Big news Everyone needs to know!

    as in wake me when there is some news.

  11. Smart Move by JCHerbsleb · · Score: 1

    It seems like a smart move. They've displaced bricks and mortar stores (GameStop, etc.) for game distribution and largely own that space -- this is a way to grow. I'm not sure that I see the same value proposition to go to them for movies, but I'm interested to see what they can bring to the table.

  12. No benefit? by barc0001 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless they're planning on renting movies for 50 cents a pop on here, I don't really see what they can bring to the table. You can already stream movies elsewhere for flat subscription fees and they have an integrated UI that works with most smart TVs and playback devices. From the screenshot of this I saw earlier today they want to charge you $4 to rent Kill Bill 2 for 48 hours and you'll have to watch it on a computer unless you've already got a Steam Box, Steam Link, or other PC with Steam installed already hooked to your TV. That's not value for money. The reason Steam is so liked with PC gamers is because of 2 things:

    1. Easy game and save management where it didn't exist before, with excellent social/community integration

    2. Steam SALES where you get games that are a couple of years old at rock bottom prices.

    Neither of these things will apply to movies on Steam from what I see so far, so there's just no benefit to renting one there.

    1. Re: No benefit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've noticed their game sale prices have been gradually going up over the years such that you're paying almost regular prices compared to say 3-4 years ago

    2. Re:No benefit? by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      Consider this in the context of SteamOS and steamboxes.

    3. Re:No benefit? by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      From the screenshot of this I saw earlier today they want to charge you $4 to rent Kill Bill 2 for 48 hours and you'll have to watch it on a computer...

      Kill Bill 2 is a bad example. Lionsgate didn't make that movie, nor does it have the right to distribute it. Miramax does.

      A better example would be Compadres - Sort of Armed. Kind of Dangerous

    4. Re:No benefit? by adolf · · Score: 1

      ...as opposed to $35 Chromecasts, or the functionality built into every smart TV and damn near every modern Blu-Ray player (whether "smart" or not), as if people are lining up to rent movies on yet-another-device.

      It's akin to when Sony started offering movie rentals on the PS3 almost a decade ago. Except back then, it was expensive and novel.

      Now, it's just expensive. The novelty wore off eons ago.

      Meanwhile, I make enough Play Store credit with Google Opinion Rewards, mostly just telling them about my regular shopping experiences, that whenever I feel like "renting" something I've already got more than enough credit to do so (for only a couple of minutes of my previous time).

      (Oh, and the $35 Chromecast is often available for $25 after retailer promotions, and mine (at least) came with $20 in Play Store credit, and some free rentals, making the eventual cost less than $0. Just saying.)

    5. Re:No benefit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Miramax shut down quite some time ago. Lionsgate must have their catalog.

    6. Re:No benefit? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Rentals are dead anyway. People are used to scheduling entertainment around their lives, and don't want to go back to scheduling their lives around entertainment. Also, there had better be refunds for crap movies, just like there are refunds for crap games. Like say you have watched less than 75% of the movie, you can return it for a full refund.

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    7. Re:No benefit? by j-beda · · Score: 1

      1. Easy game and save management where it didn't exist before, with excellent social/community integration

      2. Steam SALES where you get games that are a couple of years old at rock bottom prices.

      Neither of these things will apply to movies on Steam from what I see so far, so there's just no benefit to renting one there.

      There is probably a significan number of Steam subscribers (such as my "tweenage" kids) who do not have any other (or few other) online funded accounts to watch movies. Steam gift cards being usable for movie rentals doesn't seem totally stupid. If it does not cost Valve much to provide this content, it might bring in a few bucks now and possibly more in the future. Bring in the young ones now and you might have them long-term.

    8. Re:No benefit? by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      Technically Steam movie rentals give you a 30 day period to begin your 48 hour watching window.
      That said, I still think its kinda silly/stupid. How about this, for $15 I can buy the movie. For $4 I can watch it 2 times in total (counted as a greater than 75% viewing)

    9. Re:No benefit? by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      I have. It still doesn't make any sense. I have a Steam link hooked up to my TV, which also has a Chromecast on it. Why would I pay $4 to rent a movie there when I already pay $9 a month for all I can eat Netflix that I can see on the same TV?

    10. Re:No benefit? by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      Oh I am sure it doesn't cost Valve anything other than some developer time to explore the idea so it's no skin off their back, but even the tweenage argument doesn't make a lot of sense in the age of shared Netflix and Prime accounts. My kid's had their own Netflix profile on my account for years, works great.

    11. Re:No benefit? by j-beda · · Score: 1

      Oh I am sure it doesn't cost Valve anything other than some developer time to explore the idea so it's no skin off their back, but even the tweenage argument doesn't make a lot of sense in the age of shared Netflix and Prime accounts. My kid's had their own Netflix profile on my account for years, works great.

      Sure, my kids can watch Netflix, but if they want to rent "Leprechaun 3" they can use their Steam money (or maybe it is available on Netflix?) and get used to doing that and maybe never bother getting an iTunes account or whatever other options are out there.

      (I tried very hard not to mention that "kid's" is either a contraction of "kid is" as in "My kid's a credit to his school" or is the possessive form of the singular "kid", as in "I hate my kid's friends". I just couldn't let it go. I guess I am a jerk. http://gizmodo.com/study-peopl... I obviously need help. I have little doubt that there are greater errors in my own writing.)

    12. Re:No benefit? by brewthatistrue · · Score: 1

      How about an upsell. For $4 I can rent it, and if I like it I can buy it for only the $9 difference between rental cost and purchase cost.

      So much money left on the table.

  13. Just...Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And before you say "Money" let's talk about brand. There was a time that this could have been a thing, like a decade ago, but now there are a zillion services that do it well, have the content, and work everywhere. I get it, the SteamBox didn't pan out, the Vive is a guaranteed dud at $800, and you're desperate to have a service work, but this seems kinda pathetic given how much you COULD be doing with the platform. How about resurrecting the OnLive concept? How about streaming to devices? How about something truly innovative? It just seems like you have...run out of steam.

  14. Where are all these films then? by jonwil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I only see 10 films (none of which I would watch even if they were free) when I look at the list of Lionsgate stuff on Steam.

    No doubt Lionsgate is being its usual stupid self and denying Australians access to most of the films they have added to Steam (if people cant buy the films they want, they will pirate which hurts studio)

    1. Re:Where are all these films then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You are not an American, you are not important to the studios.

      Europeans in the same boat. Well, everyone not USA.

      Also the prices are hilarious. I might consider that for a DRM free high resolution downloadable file, but for a time-limited streaming rental? LOL

    2. Re:Where are all these films then? by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      3.99/4.99 is a fairly standard price amongst the services for a 48 hour rental. Go on, check PSN and Amazon and you'll see.

    3. Re:Where are all these films then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How to pay for making a movie. This is a great video on how this happens *all* *the* *time*.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWP88WKVBKs

  15. Price goes up after a movie expires out of Redbox by tepples · · Score: 1

    The trouble is that Redbox has new releases for $1.50 but has nothing but new releases. Unlike before, the price to rent a movie goes up after it's been out on DVD for a year.

  16. License PlayStation patents from Sony? by tepples · · Score: 1

    How about resurrecting the OnLive concept?

    Sony bought the patents for its PlayStation Now service, and PlayStation competes with Steam.

  17. Pi was terrible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not trolling. Honest opinion intended to save hapless Slashdot readers who might otherwise waste time and effort watching Pi, time that could be better spent by, for example, jerking off, sleeping, picking your nose, scratching your ass, or even watching paint dry, all better and more interesting activities than watching Pi.

    It is a stupid fucking movie about how the constant Pi (~= 3.14) is magical somehow, and not just the sum of an infinite series, which is what it is.

    Underlying concept of the film is complete bullshit. I'm waiting for the sequel, "e" about how God created a special magic number to be the base of the natural logarithm... I'm sure it'll be complete bullshit too.

    All I'm saying is, I know opinions vary, but do yourself a GIANT favor, find "Pi" in a library, check it out along with 2 or 3 movies you KNOW are actually good and worth watching, so you won't feel like you wasted the whole trip, and watch it if you like shitty movies.

    When you end up hating it passionately about 17 minutes in, (counting the warnings against illegally copying this turd of a film, and previews for better films like "Hot Tub Time Machine," "Poltergeist 3," and "Beverly Hills Chihuahua," (all better than Pi, and I fucking HATED those celluloid abortions,) you won't ALSO have wasted $5 that could go to something infinitely more worthwhile, such as wiping your ass with it, after taking a runny, flaming shit!

    Do yourself one more favor, and resist the temptation to rip the DVD out of the player and set it on FIRE, because the library WILL charge you more than $5, and they won't believe your DVD player did it to protect you from watching that godawful film, sacrificing itself heroically, destroying itself AND the DVD of Pi in the process.

    Good luck, and happy movieing!

    1. Re:Pi was terrible. by gumpish · · Score: 1

      What this guy said.

      It reeks of "student film" and tries to make up for what it lacks in substance with mysticism and style but falls flat on its face.

      Requiem For A Dream has entertainment value. Pi... I don't know, maybe you just have to be really wasted or something.

    2. Re:Pi was terrible. by billcopc · · Score: 1

      Bah. I like it for many of the same reasons you guys hate it. It absolutely is weird indie no-budget art-house hoopla, and that's what I find refreshing about it. It's like someone deconstructed the video feed from my own waking nightmares. I mean, I kind of related with the character. Obsessing over patterns, crazies pestering me with numerology nonsense, migraine-triggered freakouts and irrational behaviour... pretty much how my twenties played out.

      Beyond that, the technical merits of the production are pretty killer. I really liked the deliberate (ab)use of framing, lighting and music/noise to highlight the lead character's mental states Migraines for me are often a hallucinatory affair, and I thought they did a great job of recreating that distressing synesthesia.

      But hey, to each their own. Lots of people paid money to see Transformers, and I think those were giant nonsensical turds...

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    3. Re:Pi was terrible. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      If you ever apply for a job as a movie critic, I'll give you a good reference.

    4. Re:Pi was terrible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is very funny, but I liked Pi.

    5. Re:Pi was terrible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always took it for a film about a guy (who happens to have a maths background) who is slowly going insane. In his desperation he reaches out to the only person he knows and trusts, who unfortunately is also insane. The maths, and pi, are just decor - window dressing. The film is about a guy losing his sanity. I enjoyed it immensely.

  18. Please just stop by rebelwarlock · · Score: 2

    There has never been a single movie on Steam I wanted to watch. Sometimes they pop up in my discovery queue, and they always look like shit. I didn't even realize they were only rentals until I read some of the comments, because I never considered paying for them under any arrangement.

    1. Re:Please just stop by Barny · · Score: 1

      Then you didn't see Zombie Movie. It was the first released on steam as a movie... about 11 years ago.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      You can probably find it on youtube.

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    2. Re:Please just stop by LordNightwalker · · Score: 1

      Then you didn't see Zombie Movie. It was the first released on steam as a movie... about 11 years ago.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      You can probably find it on youtube.

      Oh yes, that one was good. :)

      Also, Kung Fury, another free one, also pretty hilarious if their particular brand of stupid humour appeals to you.

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  19. Visual Novels!! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    So now as well as having to check for a 'visual novel' tag so I know to avoid it, I also have to check for a 'movie' tag.

    I've failed to find the setting to have steam not show me these non-game things.

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    1. Re:Visual Novels!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course not. Valve don't make sales by hiding their content from users.

      As soon as it is possible to disable seeing all movies, movie studios will ask Valve how many users have got that setting enabled as part of their contract negotiations.

    2. Re:Visual Novels!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I enjoy reading visual novels.

      OK, OK, I generally only play the ones that include X-rated scenes at the end. I don't think Steam is selling those.

      But I'm a weeaboo like that.

    3. Re:Visual Novels!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I enjoy reading visual novels.

      OK, OK, I generally only play the ones that include X-rated scenes at the end. I don't think Steam is selling those.

      But I'm a weeaboo like that.

      Where's the Steam mangagamer.com mod when you need it?

  20. Half Life 3 Confirmed. by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    Sorry. I couldn't stop myself.

  21. I Wouldn't Watch Leprechaun 2 If They Paid Me 7.99 by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    Leprechauns are racists. I don't support racists.

  22. heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and it works on linux....... oooooooookkkkayyyy good bye netflix & co.

  23. US-NY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just browsing.

    it shows me 70 Lionsgate films, including Crank and Crank 2!

    The pricing is derpy to me.

    According to steam, "Watch this 48-hour rental any time in the next 30 days"

    For $3.99 I'd rather own the rights to stream it whenever, because no one watches Crank sober (or during daylight hours)

    Lionsgate, I know you wanted a new audience, but you gotta admit--some of this stuff is cheesy-camp that people watch when tripping balls.

  24. They aren't interested by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    One of the bad things about Valve "no management" flat structure (there are many) is that projects live and die based on if enough people think they are interesting. There isn't any kind of project management saying "This is something our consumers want, so let's devote time and resources to make it happen," instead it is whatever toys a group of geeks feel like playing with for a time, until they are bored and move elsewhere.

    You see it the most in customer service. They have no CS division, since the company doesn't really have divisions due to the "flat" nature so it is something "everyone just works on." Of course CS work sucks so it gets heavily neglected unless people make noise. They have no interesting in doing more or fixing it because it isn't an interesting problem so they play around with other shit instead.

  25. Thing is costs have gone down a lot by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    The cost of maintaining a physical store and all the logistics thereof are pretty significant. I mean think of all the overhead: How much actual profit did you turn on that $3 rental? Most of it got eaten by operation costs.

    Digital delivery is next to nothing, pennies or less to stream a movie to you. As such it should be cheaper. Same deal why people get mad about e-books costing as much or more than physical books.

  26. Damnit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guess Valve is going the way newegg did. Inundated with crap, offering too much to focus and be really good at just one area.

    *plays a funeral dirge*

  27. Re:I Wouldn't Watch Leprechaun 2 If They Paid Me 7 by LordNightwalker · · Score: 2

    Leprechauns are racists. I don't support racists.

    Actually, if they paid you $7.99 to watch it, racists would support you.

    How's the weather in Soviet Russia?

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  28. Will they replace their video player? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their video player is such crap. Will they replace it, so people will actually want to watch this stuff?

  29. UK by ledow · · Score: 1

    UK I get 11 movies, none of which I've ever heard of.

    I really don't understand what's so hard with someone making a movie and then releasing it for sale worldwide, giving local partners the relevant cut as necessary rather than holding it to random in each jurisdiction.

  30. swing and a miss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea it's just too bad they are 24 hour rentals i.e completely pointless wastes of money.

  31. Cute hat or AK skin with your movie sir? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'll happen: if Valve can cram a micro transaction into something they will. Next stop: movies.

    Want that deleted scene? Rent all the movies in the series and we'll drop a chest. Buy the key and - who knows! - you might just get what you want. Or you might only get a shiny badge to add to your profile.

    Spend as much as you please 'cos, fuck knows, GabeN sure does like his pies!