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Open365 Is An Open Source Alternative to Microsoft Office 365 (open365.io)

Martin Brinkmann, writing for Ghacks: Open365 is an open source Office 365 alternative that allows you to edit or create documents online, and to sync files with the cloud. The service is in beta currently but you can sign up for it already on the official website. You may use it using a web browser, download clients for Windows, Mac or Linux desktop machines, or for Android. An iOS client is in the making currently and will be made available as well soon. Open 365 offers two main features that you can make use of. First, it enables you to synchronize files between devices you use and the cloud. Second, it allows you to view, edit and create documents in the cloud using the technology provided by the Open Source Office suite LibreOffice Online for that.

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  1. Re:What problem does this solve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hint: Nobody creates spreadsheets on their phone.

    Ok, but opening and reading spreadsheets and documents is rather common when on the go.

  2. We don't want web UIs! We want native apps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If there's one thing that should be clear by now, it's that normal users and advanced users don't want to use web-based UIs! They always give an inferior experience to native apps, regardless of the platform.

    Most of mobile's success is because of native apps, not because of web apps. And the native apps that have been implemented as wrappers around locally-running web apps have generally been disliked by users.

    People don't use services like GMail or Google Docs or Office 365 or Dropbox or Facebook because of the web UIs. They use them in spite of the web UIs! They want the unlimited email storage, or the ease of sharing files, or the ease of sharing private/personal info with advertisers.

    This is where the web technology advocates really strike out. Users don't use web apps because they want to; they use them because they want the back-end service, and there's often not a native client provided. When native clients are provided, we typically see users opting to use them instead of the shitty web front ends.

    1. Re:We don't want web UIs! We want native apps! by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just as long as the Web UI loads fast and is easy to use most people are OK with it.
      Microsoft in general sucks major in making Web Apps, they just don't get it. I actually prefer gmail myself and don't bother with a mail client app.

      However if the application doesn't need internet connection we don't necessarily need a web app for it.

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    2. Re:We don't want web UIs! We want native apps! by NotInHere · · Score: 4, Funny

      Says the guy posting to a web discussion site.

    3. Re:We don't want web UIs! We want native apps! by evolutionary · · Score: 2

      There is some truth in what you say here. And there are very valid points. If I had points I'd give you at least one. But for a admin perspective this has advantages. It might be interesting if the fonts you mentioned became more standardized on the web. I can see people (like me) trying this out. I tell people to avoid google docs in business (and office 360 even more so, did the math, $120/year, WAY more expensive than purchasing after 3 years, which if you have to upgrade/replace you have to explain yourself to MS to get your office application back. You get screwed either way. As for storage space, it's SO cheap now. My argument against all those cloud services is the data is not really yours once it's out there. Agreements are "interesting", especially if you are in a country other than the USA (good like with that) and the US government says any data in it's territory (or even an American OS (MS Windows) in a weird case in Ireland), they own the data. I like real programs too. Don't get me wrong. It would be cool to make more use of web (internal) services for managing users in business though. Version upgrades are always a minor pain to maintain.

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    4. Re:We don't want web UIs! We want native apps! by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

      If there's one thing that should be clear by now, it's that normal users and advanced users don't want to use web-based UIs! They always give an inferior experience to native apps, regardless of the platform.

      Most people want more then one tool in the toolbox. Native apps are not the best for distributed use. Personally, I want a choice.

      People don't use services like GMail or Google Docs or Office 365 or Dropbox or Facebook because of the web UIs. They use them in spite of the web UIs! They want the unlimited email storage, or the ease of sharing files, or the ease of sharing private/personal info with advertisers.

      You know that Google allows you to use almost all of it's services with whatever app you choose? I have two gmail accounts and I use Thunderbird. This allowing of user choice is one reason they do so well. (Even if they did totally screw up imap...)

      This is where the web technology advocates really strike out. Users don't use web apps because they want to; they use them because they want the back-end service, and there's often not a native client provided. When native clients are provided, we typically see users opting to use them instead of the shitty web front ends.

      And these guys offer a native client as well. But when you want several people working on the same document, it has to be non-local for someone.

    5. Re:We don't want web UIs! We want native apps! by freeze128 · · Score: 3, Funny

      If everyone had the discussion board installed locally, then it really wouldn't be much of a discussion, would it?

    6. Re:We don't want web UIs! We want native apps! by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

      And these guys offer a native client as well. But when you want several people working on the same document, it has to be non-local for someone.

      The document does, but not the application. Not to mention, there's no inherent reason a "cloud" should be required: you could have a direct connection between the clients instead.

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    7. Re:We don't want web UIs! We want native apps! by Agripa · · Score: 2

      Odd. My local email client works better than any web based discussion board and supports much better organized discussions than any web forum.

  3. Re:What problem does this solve? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Informative

    Alternative to Google Docs and Microsoft Office. These days we use nothing but Google Docs internally, and a select few of us use Microsoft Office to write docs that interface with the outside world.

    If it does multi-person realtime collaboration (which Google Docs does) I'll probably check it out.

  4. Office365 Haiku by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Thin clients are back
    But your browser is bloated
    How does it fit?

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    1. Re:Office365 Haiku by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thin clients are back
      But your browser is bloated
      How does it fit?

      Burma shave

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    2. Re:Office365 Haiku by fibonacci8 · · Score: 2

      Thin clients are back
      But your browser is bloated
      How does it all fit?

      Your haiku was missing a syllable.

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    3. Re:Office365 Haiku by drew_kime · · Score: 2

      I count all the words
      But I can't fit the whole thought
      Into so few syllables.

      God dammit.

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    4. Re:Office365 Haiku by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

      Thin clients are back

      But your browser is bloated

      How does it all fit?

      Your haiku was missing a syllable.

      This is Slashdot. Don't expect quality.

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  5. Re:Cool, let's host our own server by kwzombie · · Score: 2

    It's not a pain to upgrade when you use patch management software like Ninite Pro. (unfortunately it isn't free, but it's not super duper expensive either) Don't forget also, that a lot of countries have data residency laws.. so depending on what kind of data your employees are working on, it may be illegal to use a cloud-based solution if it is hosted outside the country/trade block.

  6. Re:Not really a 100% replacement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm running LibreOffice Writer in my browser (Chrome on a Debian 8 workstation) right now, served up from the Open365 beta app (just signed up), and I have not installed the (optional) native client. Did you make a bunch of bold assertions without any actual experience regarding the target of your assertions? -PCP

  7. Software as a Service avoids open source benefits by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Free software foundation has written a recommended piece as to why you should avoid software as a service and that "open source" software as a service in no way protects users freedom or privacy. Online services should only be used when you want to share information with others. When you are working on data for your own use, their is no point in using software as a service, you give up rights when you do so.

    http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.en.html

  8. Re:What problem does this solve? by houstonbofh · · Score: 3, Informative

    Collaboration... And easy way to work on documents together without having to install additional software. A conference call discussing the scope of work document while you all work in it can make a several week process into a one hour process.

  9. Re:What problem does this solve? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

    I edit them as well. Having stage 4 CKD, I keep a detailed log of medication taken and blood pressure. Google sheets is quite useful for this on my Nexus 6P.

    I also created a spreadsheet to track weight loss goals, and I used the Harris-Benedict equation to figure out calorie goals as weight changed. It worked, by the way.

  10. 5 terrabytes of cloud storage by ljw1004 · · Score: 3, Informative

    What sold me on Office365 is that for the $99/year I get 5 terrabytes of cloud storage in OneDrive - 1 terabyte each for me and 4 others.

    It's enough for me to keep all my photos over the decades, my 200GB music collection, and for the past five years I've been "taping" some internet radio stations 24/7 and keep them online too.

    Very happy camper.

    1. Re:5 terrabytes of cloud storage by somenickname · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They are no longer your photos, music, etc. Now they belong to Microsoft and they can revoke your ability to use them whenever they want and for whatever reason they want. "The cloud" is not a long term storage medium.

    2. Re:5 terrabytes of cloud storage by somenickname · · Score: 2

      You might want to consider something like a Synology and use the cloud storage as part of your backup plan. They are simple, low maintenance devices that have a good reputation for reliability. It sounds like you have properly irreplaceable data and, personally, I wouldn't trust a third party to be the sole owner of that data.

    3. Re:5 terrabytes of cloud storage by somenickname · · Score: 2

      RAID is only as reliable as the person administering it. I keep a fairly large (well, large for home use) RAID array and every disk runs SMART tests daily. If a disk fails a self test, within hours, I drop it from the array, let the hot spare pick up the data, and replace the dropped disk with a cold spare (that becomes the new hot spare) and then order a new cold spare. It doesn't matter if the disk that failed the self test could be salvaged. It's going to die at some point so, if it shows any signs of flakiness at all, you might as well replace it. Using this method, I've never had a live disk actually fail out of an array and I've never lost any data.

      RAID is an awesome tool but, I think most people who use it don't really understand how to wield it.

  11. I've been looking for something like this... by Voyager529 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I do some tech work for a nonprofit. We're Office365, but there are a few documents better kept in-house. I've been looking for a self-hosted collaborative spreadsheet, preferably browser based, but nothing I've tried has materialized correctly...

    FengOffice - doesn't support spreadsheets natively. The hackneyed workaround that does, only supports it in a particular, dated version of FengOffice, and after creating the document, the web app prompts to download the spreadsheet rather than edit it.
    OnlyOffice - eight cores and 8GB of RAM for this VM, and it takes over a minute to load any document.
    ZKSpreadsheet Server - From the hand of Johnny Ives himself comes the most beautiful spreadsheet software ever written. It's fast, it's easy to use, it's effective, it's simple to install, it's resource efficient...and it's $4,000.

    So, if Open365 gets its self-hosted option off the ground, I would love nothing more than for this to solve my problem.

    1. Re:I've been looking for something like this... by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 2

      Q: Are the spreadheets for actual financial data, or just for lists of things?

      If they are for lists of things, then maybe the nonprofit could host a wiki that has good support for tables.

    2. Re:I've been looking for something like this... by halfnerd · · Score: 2

      Collaborative being a key word, I didn't get the impression that Open365 allows google docs style concurrent collaborative editing. EtherCalc should work, but is of course limited in features: https://ethercalc.net/

  12. Happy until... by freeze128 · · Score: 2, Informative

    until you stop paying for it, and all your files are lost to you.

  13. Re:Why do I need cloud for my Office? by SQLGuru · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I pay $99 for 5 instances of all of that and consider it well worth it. 5 installs of Office. 5TB of cloud storage. 5 hours of Skype minutes. etc. I consider it the second best deal in tech....Amazon Prime being the first.

  14. Office 365 by westlake · · Score: 3, Informative

    People don't use services like GMail or Google Docs or Office 365 or Dropbox or Facebook because of the web UIs.

    Just to be clear on this, Office 365 is the full standard aka "professional" suite of MS Office apps, including Outlook, locally resident, sold as a subscription service. The web component is there, but still secondary.

  15. is it eyeOS owned? by 4wdloop · · Score: 2

    The bottom of open365.io page has:
    © eyeOS 2016.

    What is the license than?

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    1. Re:is it eyeOS owned? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2
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  16. Office365 BLOWS! by gabrieltss · · Score: 3, Informative

    We use O365 at work and it sucks big green donkey dicks! Yeah I want to wait 30+ seconds to open a Microsoft document (word doc, excel, powerpoint). And it CONSTANYLY loses connectivity and you have to keep logging into it. What a POS!

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