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North Korea Launches Two Midrange Missiles, Both Tests Fail (cnn.com)
An anonymous reader writes: According to South Korean Defense Ministry officials, North Korea fired two midrange Musudan missiles Thursday, and both missiles appear to have failed. The military cannot confirm exactly when the missile exploded but said it "crashed shortly after it was launched," a Defense Ministry official said. U.S. military officials said the missiles traveled an estimated 200 meters from the launchpad. This past weekend, North Korea launched a ballistic missile from a submarine off the east cost of the Korean peninsula. It only traveled about 30 km, well short of the 300 km range that would be considered a successful test. A little more than a week prior to that launch, North Korea failed to launch an intermediate-range missile on the 104th anniversary of the birthday of the country's 'eternal president,' Kim II Sung.
I wonder if the North Koreans are embarrassed by little Un...
The Great Leader does not fall short - not when in comes to missiles, height, hair size, stomache size, or any other kind of size. His hands are big too.
Ignore the lies, Great Leader will make North Korea the WINNIGEST country every. They will win so much, you will ask him to stop winning that much. His missiles will fly furthest, his walles will be the biggest.
Wait - am I still making fun of Kim, or Donald? I forget which.
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We laugh, but failures are how one learns how to do things; we had many dozens of rockets fail before we perfected the technology.
Eventually they'll figure it out. Then what? I don't trust that crazy government with ICBMs.
.... so that if they were to actually try and do anything that actually posed a danger, nobody would take it seriously until it was too late?
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You learn from mistakes and try again, unless you are summarily executed for failing.
I have no doubt that's the case here.
"here top scientist, take these marbles a rubber band and a corkscrew and make super death missile"
"You failed, *bang*"
North Korea is an odd place. Communist economic system plus Nationalism. We have not seen a Left/Right hybrid like this since Adolf Hitler.
.... so that if they were to actually try and do anything that actually posed a danger, nobody would take it seriously until it was too late?
Define "Deliberate"? As far as a country with limited funds and resources intentionally destroying missiles in an attempt make the rest of the world roll our eyes at them, I highly doubt it. Rushing the launches, without properly evaluating what caused the previous failures and making the necessary adjustments in order to ensure success, just to look like they're doing something fearsome? More likely. Same goes for their nuke tests. I doubt they're wasting fissile material on super low-yield detonations just to be sly.
There are a whole lot of folks just south of the border with a whole lot artillery aimed up their noses. I'd say they have plenty of reason to be concerned about these lunatics.
Nobody seems genuinely interested in solving it, though. One mushroom cloud over Pyongyang and the problem is solved. I would love for the French military to use one of our many nuclear weapons and solve this problem.
He is allied with China, who is allied with Russia; the Russians have been a major force in both World Wars and the Cold War. While North Korea may be small, it could be the location of a trigger event that will have us all nervous (insert mushroom cloud here).
We meddle in the affairs of other sovereign nations, often to our own detriment.
Yet, we have seemingly no interest in freeing the North Korean people (and the world) from this attention-seeking child.
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or did they just stuff 10,000 clustered Estes C6-7 engines in a sewer pipe and expect it to fly?
Given the way this "country" operates, I'm pretty sure that after each failure heads are rolling, literally. A few more such failures and NK will run out of rocket scientists and missile commanders...
Chinese involvement was determinative in both Vietnam and Korean wars. Cold War bullshit, or real history?
I never would use such a simplistic device. I simply think of them as two competing theories.
I think they are no more deliberate than the SpaceX failures. What they are attempting is not easy. The fact that North Korea is testing these missiles in earnest is of concern.
No, if they really wanted to keep their activity quiet, there would be a lot better ways to do it.
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He succeeded in inducing more fear into the cowardly neo-cons in the US so he can derive power from their hysterics. Lets face it, he also lost a sub within the last 6 weeks, and before that was that "nuclear bomb" test that actually wasn't.... but the Pavlovian response from the cowards here in the US will still be the same.... "he's the end of the world!!11!1!1!1"
Seriously you have complete cowards even on this site arguing that the US needs to piss away billions of dollars ever year on military programs that absolutely do not work purely because they're cowards, and this little shrimp just said "Booo!" So yes, he succeeded... he scared the little cowards who are already afraid of everything including their own shadow; and that is how he wins.
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In fact one of SpaceX's successes was to land a rocket very near where it was launched from. So maybe N. Korea "making a missile that only went 30 meters" was actually very clever of them.
that's because you're an idiot. The South wants reconciliation, not war, the North wants War. They are the ones who are constantly doing this shit. Sure the South 'retaliates' by showing strength, they do not want the North charging across the DMZ, which is exactly what the North wants to do!
I'm not sure that's going to influence their decision much at all now that China has other trading partners, and the USA's importance is fading. You only buy debt from and sell products to superpowers, and it's hard to argue the USA is still one of those at more than a military level.
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Napoleon was an internationalist, not a nationalist. I compiled some historical data into a FAQ: http://www.amerika.org/nature/...
It would probably suit you to learn how to read before calling others idiots.
"Their" in the first sentence made North Korea the subject of the sentence, and using a pronoun in the second sentence borrows the subject from the previous sentence.
I'm guessing the artillery poster meant South Korea should be worried about North Korea, but the way he wrote it, he says North Korea should be worried about the "lunatics" in South Korea.
They are going to run out of rocket scientists. Maybe they can use rocket scientologists - they'll never know the difference.
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This is an expletive sentence structure, and "a whole lot of folks just south of the border with a hole lot [sic] artillery aimed up their noses" is the complete subject.
The South part clearly refers to the South Koreans, unless you are from Australia. Not because North and South are different there, but because they allow Barnaby Joyce to continue to hold office under the guise of protecting animals and thus might be expected to get things diametrically incorrect.
You are correct though that "they" in the second sentence refers to the subject of the first sentence, you just misidentify the subject.
Props for using the correct form of "you're" though, that's not common for folks who refuse to issue a mea culpa after they are called on being so clearly and incontrovertibly incorrect.
Remember, sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool...
I think it will be quite interesting. Seriously, let's come back to this thread ten years from now. We will then have much more data to work with, I'd think.
so you're saying it's specifically for you?
You'd never think there'd be such a thing as an orwellian 1984 nightmare nation - but North Korea pretty much is it.
What an utterly bizar spectacle.
I hope this fatso dies painfully of an heart-attack whilst shitting on the toilet and that the people of North Korea can finally have a peaceful and halfway decent republic of their own. After burning all the images and idols of him and his kin.
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Well, it's not like US missle tests have been a success all the time, that's why it's a test.. Look at the failures NASA had and still has, look at the failures other rocket companies have.. It's nothing special if a missle test fails.. comeon, this isn't news.. What's news is the fact US is telling NK and Iran not to build nuclear weapons, but are still the building them themselves.. before you go pointing a finger at others, dispose of your own nuclear weapons.