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North Korea Launches Two Midrange Missiles, Both Tests Fail (cnn.com)
An anonymous reader writes: According to South Korean Defense Ministry officials, North Korea fired two midrange Musudan missiles Thursday, and both missiles appear to have failed. The military cannot confirm exactly when the missile exploded but said it "crashed shortly after it was launched," a Defense Ministry official said. U.S. military officials said the missiles traveled an estimated 200 meters from the launchpad. This past weekend, North Korea launched a ballistic missile from a submarine off the east cost of the Korean peninsula. It only traveled about 30 km, well short of the 300 km range that would be considered a successful test. A little more than a week prior to that launch, North Korea failed to launch an intermediate-range missile on the 104th anniversary of the birthday of the country's 'eternal president,' Kim II Sung.
The Great Leader does not fall short - not when in comes to missiles, height, hair size, stomache size, or any other kind of size. His hands are big too.
Ignore the lies, Great Leader will make North Korea the WINNIGEST country every. They will win so much, you will ask him to stop winning that much. His missiles will fly furthest, his walles will be the biggest.
Wait - am I still making fun of Kim, or Donald? I forget which.
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We laugh, but failures are how one learns how to do things; we had many dozens of rockets fail before we perfected the technology.
Eventually they'll figure it out. Then what? I don't trust that crazy government with ICBMs.
.... so that if they were to actually try and do anything that actually posed a danger, nobody would take it seriously until it was too late?
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You learn from mistakes and try again, unless you are summarily executed for failing.
I have no doubt that's the case here.
"here top scientist, take these marbles a rubber band and a corkscrew and make super death missile"
"You failed, *bang*"
.... so that if they were to actually try and do anything that actually posed a danger, nobody would take it seriously until it was too late?
Define "Deliberate"? As far as a country with limited funds and resources intentionally destroying missiles in an attempt make the rest of the world roll our eyes at them, I highly doubt it. Rushing the launches, without properly evaluating what caused the previous failures and making the necessary adjustments in order to ensure success, just to look like they're doing something fearsome? More likely. Same goes for their nuke tests. I doubt they're wasting fissile material on super low-yield detonations just to be sly.
There are a whole lot of folks just south of the border with a whole lot artillery aimed up their noses. I'd say they have plenty of reason to be concerned about these lunatics.
He is allied with China, who is allied with Russia; the Russians have been a major force in both World Wars and the Cold War. While North Korea may be small, it could be the location of a trigger event that will have us all nervous (insert mushroom cloud here).
Little Kimmy Jong Un can't get it up!
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Yet, we have seemingly no interest in freeing the North Korean people
More an issue between South and North Korea. Of course, we'd help our ally. China, on the other hand, doesn't want the regime to collapse. Millions of refugees crossing the border to deal with. Plus, having a mad dog in the back yard might come in handy.
The thing that I think will bring China around is: When the NORKs get a warhead working and manage to fit it onto a missile, Beijing will be a much easier shot than the USA. And Kim Jong-un is crazy enough to try and blackmail China for aid.
Have gnu, will travel.
We do not want to upset trade with China. If China asked us we would. China will not ask though.
Silence is a state of mime.
Given the way this "country" operates, I'm pretty sure that after each failure heads are rolling, literally. A few more such failures and NK will run out of rocket scientists and missile commanders...
and the end of seoul at same time.
Don't think of left right as plots on a line. Think globally - literally. If you go east long enough you can get to points in the west. Now add in latitude and realize that the distances can be longer or shorter or a combination of both.
Chinese involvement was determinative in both Vietnam and Korean wars. Cold War bullshit, or real history?
I never would use such a simplistic device. I simply think of them as two competing theories.
that would only be equivalent to an P60000-7. About enough to send five tons up 150m.
I think they are no more deliberate than the SpaceX failures. What they are attempting is not easy. The fact that North Korea is testing these missiles in earnest is of concern.
No, if they really wanted to keep their activity quiet, there would be a lot better ways to do it.
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Hitler wasn't socialist. He claimed that title because early on it got some votes, but never did he or his party have any kind of socialist ideas or policies.
Yeah, but China is an ally, the US is the enemy (and by extension South Korea). Kim might be a bit nuts but he is not going to fire a missile at China becuase it would be "easier", or blackmail his only fucking ally.
There are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third is statistics.
In fact one of SpaceX's successes was to land a rocket very near where it was launched from. So maybe N. Korea "making a missile that only went 30 meters" was actually very clever of them.
I'm not sure that's going to influence their decision much at all now that China has other trading partners, and the USA's importance is fading. You only buy debt from and sell products to superpowers, and it's hard to argue the USA is still one of those at more than a military level.
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Napoleon was an internationalist, not a nationalist. I compiled some historical data into a FAQ: http://www.amerika.org/nature/...
They are going to run out of rocket scientists. Maybe they can use rocket scientologists - they'll never know the difference.
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Well, part of the problem with resuming the Korean War is the fact that Seoul, a place we happen to like, is within artillery range of NK. Unless the first strike took out the vast majority of the NK artillery, lots of innocents would die in Seoul. Would it be nice if North Korea had a better government and some measure of freedom and prosperity? Of course. But getting there will not be easy, and a lot of people are going to die.
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This is an expletive sentence structure, and "a whole lot of folks just south of the border with a hole lot [sic] artillery aimed up their noses" is the complete subject.
The South part clearly refers to the South Koreans, unless you are from Australia. Not because North and South are different there, but because they allow Barnaby Joyce to continue to hold office under the guise of protecting animals and thus might be expected to get things diametrically incorrect.
You are correct though that "they" in the second sentence refers to the subject of the first sentence, you just misidentify the subject.
Props for using the correct form of "you're" though, that's not common for folks who refuse to issue a mea culpa after they are called on being so clearly and incontrovertibly incorrect.
Remember, sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool...
I think it will be quite interesting. Seriously, let's come back to this thread ten years from now. We will then have much more data to work with, I'd think.
You'd never think there'd be such a thing as an orwellian 1984 nightmare nation - but North Korea pretty much is it.
What an utterly bizar spectacle.
I hope this fatso dies painfully of an heart-attack whilst shitting on the toilet and that the people of North Korea can finally have a peaceful and halfway decent republic of their own. After burning all the images and idols of him and his kin.
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Well, it's not like US missle tests have been a success all the time, that's why it's a test.. Look at the failures NASA had and still has, look at the failures other rocket companies have.. It's nothing special if a missle test fails.. comeon, this isn't news.. What's news is the fact US is telling NK and Iran not to build nuclear weapons, but are still the building them themselves.. before you go pointing a finger at others, dispose of your own nuclear weapons.