Billionaire Tech Investor Peter Thiel To Back Trump As GOP Presidential Candidate (techcrunch.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Billionaire tech investor, co-founder and former CEO of PayPal Peter Thiel has agreed to back Trump as a California delegate in Cleveland this summer. He will be one of 172 selected Golden State delegates headed to the Republican National Convention. His support for Trump contrasts many other leaders, like A16z's Marc Andreessen who has voiced his distaste for Trump, tweeting: "OH: Trump is like an Internet comments section decided to run for President." In the past, Thiel, who is a libertarian at heart, has donated $2.6 million to Ron Paul in 2012 and added $2 million to a Super PAC backing Ted Cruz's former running mate ex-HP CEO Carly Fiorina. He also gave $250,000 to Ted Cruz's bid for Texas attorney general in 2009.
"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause..."
Enjoy the slide down my dear countrymen. It's Mr. Toad's wild ride from here on out. Enjoy the political litmus tests and loyalty oaths...
Another consultant who stuck it out.
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...to have more decent candidates.
so I feel I can make an observation. I've noticed over the last 30 or so years that people have lost the art of public discourse. No one can disagree anymore without resorting to hateful vitriol, slinging insults, rioting in the streets. I don't get it. It's one thing to have a sense of justice, but quite another to act out.
People confuse freedom with permissiveness. Freedom is the ordered pursuit of the good (or at least that's how I was taught). These days, if someone votes differently, acts differently, they are a bigot, a hater, a misogynist. It's time to restore decent public discourse.
Peter has a right to back whomever he wishes, despite what we may think. We don't have to lambast him for his God-given rights. You would not want people to lambast you for your choices.
... if he's backing Cruz, Trump, Fiorina, and even Ron Paul.
Nothing about the first three's positions have anything to do with Libertarian beliefs. The first is in favor of autocratic theocracy, the second is simply a demagogue with no actual beliefs other than saying whatever pops into his brain at the moment, and the third is a straight up Establishment Republican in favor of lots of regulation (just not on big business), no business taxes, and significant social dictates. Ron Paul only looks like a Libertarian; a closer examination of his policies reveal nothing more than an anti-internationalist foreign policy, long discredited economic views (a Gold Standard, really?), welded to a George Wallace view of social issues.
Thiel's not a Libertarian. He's just a garden-variety Big Money Republican. He might be an interesting tech person, but his politics are pretty reprehensible.
Trump has loads of experience dealing with the upper echelons of finance, which is something that none of the other candidates have. If there's any candidate who is prepared to kick Wall St in the pants without destroying finance in general, it's probably him. Say what you will about him, but in bankruptcy, he forced them to come to the table and help him get out in order to save everyone's hides. That's the kind of man you want controlling the federal side of the table the next time Wall St threatens that if they don't get there way, we'll see an economic collapse.
I know a lot of libertarians and very few of them support Trump. Like almost none. I know more Democrats who support him, than libertarians. The only small-government case that could be made for him, is that the Democrats and Republicans hate him so much, that they won't likely vote to expand executive power, while he's in office, and may even move to finally curtail it.
When talking about Trump, policies and logic aren't really part of the equation. Jeff Bezos is also a prominent libertarian and doesn't look like supporting Trump anytime soon.
/dev/urandom day-to-day.
Trump is a cult of personality. His words, his promises, his supporters and his detractors -- everything related to Trump has to do with his personality and not with any incoherent policy crap he tees from
It means the money people are starting to get on board. At least some of them. I suspect a lot of others will be much more reluctant. I'm loving this election. I thrive on Chaos and thanks to Bernie and Donald it's been great so far.
Peter "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible" Thiel.
There's a man whose opinions I'm going to care about.
The Republicans got a candidate that in the general election will bring in a huge number of Democratic votes - one poll shows Trump at 2x the support of minority voters as any other Republican candidate (like Romney) has had.
Yes Trump will lose some women, but more because Hillary is running than because of Trump - and that doesn't really matter because again polls show Hillary losing as many male votes as Trump loses female. That part is a wash.
Lastly Trump is finally a candidate who is not a political insider like Hillary.
The Democrats had their chance to elect someone as good, Sanders, but they choose to go with the most ancient rapist-protecting white person they could find, so they are toast in the general election.
The very first debate will seal the deal with Trump dancing verbal rings around Hillary.
Some Republicans right now say they will not vote for Trump but Hillary is a rather powerful counterforce for that notion...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
As if Trump weren't objectionable enough!
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He's a "libertarian" in the weak sense that he combines an enthusiasm for 'seasteading' and similar probably-lost-causes with a conventional dislike of paying taxes; but that's not saying much.
I was there
I was even the moderator (no shit, I was) for one summer, until I had to drop it because of workload (I was working for Bell Labs at that time, severe lack of sleep negatively affected my research)
What is going on right now is chicken shit compared to what we had over there
But I gotta level with ya ... there was a difference, in substance
The cursing, the threats, the whatnots going on in FLAME were (largely) based on substance
Nowadays most of the online arguments are pretty much content-less, void of substance
sigh!
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You should read more on Trump's history. Despite having money Trump has always been an outsider, because he was not from NYC proper originally. He's vastly farther away from being a political insider:
1) Never been elected.
2) Not from Harvard or Yale (how long ago do you have to look through presidents to find one that is not?)
3) Not a lawyer
You may think of him as the 1% because he is rich but the 1% generally do not really consider him to be "one of them". You know how it is in any group, some will not be accepted.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
So it's the politically incorrect angle that is getting him this support? The "not of government" angle is bullshit as his multiple files for bankruptcy only helped increase his wealth, He isnt small government at all which is why it baffles me he gets any libertarian supporters at all. Why not vote for a communist who promises to keep all the foreigners away? I suppose I shouldnt be surprised as so many people I meet seem to not be able to rationalize their political choices in any meaningful context, including those within the generally left wing category I fall in.
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... that with all Trump is known for, and who is supporting him, that he has a large following in the low-income parts of the people? The myth of "trickle down economics" has been shown to not work, as proven by the US economics, as well as world wide, with the gap between the wealth of the wealthy and that of the poor ever widening ... how can ANYBODY (apart from the very well off) vote for someone standing for the policies that Trump (and, for that matter, most of the other GOP candidates)??
Just wondering ...
Well you twist the truth then complain when he does it too. Kettle meet black.
you didnt fix anything, you simply decided to insult someone because you are a dick
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