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Homeland Security Cuts Causing Extreme Delays And Missed Flights (chicagotribune.com)

An anonymous reader writes: The Chicago Tribune reports on "a growing backlash over extremely long airport security lines," which the Transportation Security Administration is blaming on a loss of 4,622 screeners. "In the past three years, the TSA and Congress cut the number of front-line screeners by 4,622 -- or about 10% -- on expectations that an expedited screening program called PreCheck would speed up the lines. However, not enough people enrolled for TSA to realize the anticipated efficiencies."

Passengers in security lines waited one hour and 45 minutes at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, with other airports reporting wait times of 90 minutes, and crowded lines "snaking up and down escalators, or through food courts, and into terminal lobbies." Some flights have even delayed their take-offs just to wait for more of their passengers to clear security. (One Dallas-Fort Worth flight waited 13 minutes, resulting in 23 more passengers who made it onboard -- while another 29 passengers still had to be rescheduled for later flights.) "We encourage people to have the appropriate expectations when they arrive at airports,â said Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson on Friday, saying the screenings were necessary to ensure passenger safety. "Contemplate increased wait times as you travel."

Johnson also said the TSA would increase the use of overtime, hire 768 new officers as soon as mid-June, and use more threat-sniffing dogs. Meanwhile, a TSA computer glitch caused 3,000 pieces of luggage to miss their flight in Phoenix, prompting city officials to investigate replacing the TSA with a private security contractor.

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  1. Appropriate expectations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I expect that the children playing security theater in the airport will grow up and go away. Maybe find something useful or meaningful to do with their time. Is that not an "appropriate expectation"?

  2. The cure by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Don't fly.

    This isn't trolling - it's truth. If enough people simply stop flying, it will change. Not only the airlines but mega corporations like Disney will have their way.

    Last time I flew was - holy cannoli - 2002. I'm a little shocked at that because I really didn't think about it until I typed it. I still go on vacations, and even though I love the act of flying, Idon't miss the modern flying experience very much.

    And it's pretty simple. If you still fly when you don't absolutely have to - you are okay with all of this.

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    1. Re:The cure by Snotnose · · Score: 3, Informative

      Same here, haven't flown since I was given the choice of being sexually molested or having naked pictures taken of me.

      I enjoy driving, so now I spend a couple days driving to my destination. I pick the wife up at the airport, we do our thing, take her back to a different airport, she flys home and I drive.

    2. Re:The cure by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you still fly when you don't absolutely have to - you are okay with all of this.

      Please tell me if visiting my relatives who live 6000 miles away is absolutely necessary.

      It's easy to say "don't fly" -- for someone who doesn't fly anyway.

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    3. Re:The cure by Moof123 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Flying has become miserable on so many fronts. I minimize it, and dread it when it cannot be avoided.

    4. Re:The cure by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have a relative who lives 1,700 miles away and I'm driving to see them this week.

      While not the same situation as you, I have made adjustments so I don't have to fly.

      Being considered a criminal when I have done nothing wrong doesn't sit well. All this has done is give a would-be terrorist a ready, easily accessible and indefensible juicy target. If the whole point of this setup was to make people safe it has failed miserably.

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    5. Re:The cure by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have a relative who lives 1,700 miles away and I'm driving to see them this week.

      While not the same situation as you, I have made adjustments so I don't have to fly.

      It's not too difficult on trips of that length. drive a similar distance a few times a year. I just get up really early, drive through the night and arrive not exactly fresh, but I have my own vehicle, not a rental, and can enjoy music on the way down. I don't miss the couple hour wait at each stop, the groping, waiting on the tarmac before and after the flight, the wait at the luggage merry go round, the wait at the rental car place.

      And if I missed my flight because of the delay I really don't miss the hassle of cancelling the hotel.

      All in all, on trips from say the northeast to the south, you don't save a huge amount of time by flying. Yes, the in-air part is relatively short, but the rest of it makes for a huge delay.

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    6. Re:The cure by sir1963nz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Most people I know who fly from NZ/Aus to Europe/UK to go through Asia/middle east to avoid the USA. They typically spend 3-7 days in Hong Kong, Singapore, Dubai on the way to/from the UK etc buying up hotels nights, tourist attraction tickets, food, shopping etc etc etc. The US is already missing out on Billions of dollars in Tourism, and its only going to get worse. We have a trip coming up, but it will be our last to the USA, there is simply too much else to see in the world to be bothered with the aggravation. We were going to be coming for 8 weeks, but have reduced this to 3, 8 days of which are now a cruise in the Caribbean. Time has been allocated to Hong King, London and when we get back, off to Samoa for 10 days.

    7. Re:The cure by Mr.CRC · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The answer is to absolutely forbid ever absolving the airlines of liability for loss of life if they loose a plane due to negligence or letting on a bad guy.

      Establish a fairly simple standard set of security criteria. Let the airlines voluntarily submit to independent testing of their defenses. If they pass (with periodic re-inspection) then they get some bonus, like protection from *criminal* liability for an accident. This way, small private charters can forego the standard compliance without undo risk because they basically know their clients.

      Seriously, we aren't even trying to solve this. I haven't heard a new political idea about just about anything in decades.

  3. Time to get rid of the TSA by Kohath · · Score: 5, Informative

    We need to get the government out of the passenger screening business and let the airports do this screening. Airports actually try to do a good job serving airport customers. And airports will be no worse than the TSA at detecting threats and providing security.

    The worse it gets for travelers at airports, the easier it will be to get rid of the TSA.

    1. Re:Time to get rid of the TSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      9/11 happened because the standard reaction at that time was to let the hijackers have control. They were just going to fly and then land somewhere you weren't planning on.

      Now people know better and anyone trying to hijack a plane will likely end up dead before they can do much of anything.

    2. Re:Time to get rid of the TSA by BitterOak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The security used to be private, and let through 9/11. That's one of the basis of the TSA, though there was nothing let through that wasn't on the government's allowed list.

      That's EXACTLY the point. The hijackers used box cutters which weren't on the list of prohibited items. 9/11 was NOT the result of a failure of airport security personnel. There is thus no rational basis for the existence of the TSA. Pre-9/11, I don't recall any significant security lines. The biggest worry was the line at the ticketing desk if one needed to check luggage. (Otherwise, back then, you could just check in right at the gate. No boarding passes were necessary to get through security.) Now, you need to get the the airport hours ahead of time (even for a 1 hour flight) to make sure you get through security in time to catch your flight. I didn't realize airports were allowed to fire the TSA and go back to their own security, but I don't understand why all airports don't do this right now!

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    3. Re:Time to get rid of the TSA by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Informative
      The '60 hijacks were people going to Cuba, everyone walks away. The 2000+ hijacks result in death of everyone. Making the assumption that a success results in the death of everyone has stopped shoe bombers and others that made it through security and were uninterested in cockpit doors.

      Yes, the lock would have stopped 9/11, but many other things would have stopped it as well.

      I didn't realize airports were allowed to fire the TSA and go back to their own security, but I don't understand why all airports don't do this right now!

      They aren't. It's a bluff. The FAA could shut them down. For now, those who could call the bluff appear to be waiting to see what happens. If nobody calls their bluff, everyone will start doing it.

  4. As wait times approach infinity... by Steve1952 · · Score: 4, Funny

    As wait times approach infinity, security gets better and better! How many terrorists are willing to wait more than 100 years, for example? Heck, most give up after only 10 years.

  5. End the theater by Vrallis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    End the bullshit security theater. Do enough to keep serious explosives off (the crotch-bomber was no threat to the flight as a whole), basic metal detector.

    People know now hot to cooperate with hijackers, and have started reacting appropriately (beating the fuck out of anyone attempting it). Cockpit doors are locked now. Those two changes alone were all that were really needed to improve airline security.

    Taking away bottles of water and baby formula, stopping people with pocketknives, making everyone take off their shoes and gut half their luggage for the xrays are all a waste of time. They have caught NO THREATS yet. They have failed every single test to actually sneak stuff through.

    End it.

    1. Re:End the theater by Aristos+Mazer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does anyone else have a problem with there being a fee at all? This sure seems like government treating people differently because of their economic levels, something that we are generally supposed to oppose. This really bothers me lately -- I'm standing in the high speed PreCheck line and watching the woman with three kids try to keep them entertained in the slow main line. She's a lower threat profile than I am (male traveling alone), but I have the time and resources to go get the TSA interview. Something feels really wrong here.

  6. The real purpose of security checks? by jenningsthecat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    FTA:
    "the screenings were necessary to ensure passenger safety"

    I rather suspect the screenings are 'necessary' for two reasons having nothing to do with passenger safety:
    -- To further grow the thriving empire that is government-mandated security theatre, so more people can draw bigger salaries and have better job security as they pretend to contribute to the good of society.
    -- To expand and reinforce among the population the knee-jerk response of obedience to the dictates of authority, regardless of the pointlessness and impracticality of said dictates.

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  7. ineffective security theater by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    how much longer are we going to put up with this ineffective security theater (search security breach TSA) that is but a total waste of time?

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    1. Re:ineffective security theater by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Until the voters vote for change. And no, "hope and change" from a mainstream candidate is neither.

    2. Re: ineffective security theater by Luthair · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Forever, no politician wants to cancel it and something to happen whether the TSA would have prevented it or not

    3. Re:ineffective security theater by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 5, Informative

      Forever, probably. The crazy thing is that at virtually any airport outside the United States of Total Paranoia you can clear security in 5-10 minutes, no queues, with no more (or less) terrorist attacks than in the USTP.

    4. Re: ineffective security theater by thesupraman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The suppliers and consultants working for TSA pay for their campaigns.. You annoy then with letters or emails then vote however you want.
      Who so you think they will side with exactly?
      Welcome to democracy 2.0

  8. TSA wastes more human life than terrorists could by Kludge · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Flights per year in US: 800x 10^6. Assume 2/3 of those go through TSA.
    Average time spent in line at TSA: 20 minutes
    Average human lifetime: 40 x 10^6 minutes
    800 x 10^6 * 2/3 * 20 minutes / (40 x 10^6) = 267 human lifetimes

    The TSA wastes at least 270 human lives every year. Even if we had no security at airports, terrorists would never kill that many people EVERY year.
    That does not even factor in the billions of dollars that it costs to run the TSA.

  9. Re:TSA wastes more human life than terrorists coul by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You forgot the extra 500 deaths due to people driving rather than flying, which is more dangerous on average.

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  10. Instead of contemplation, just tell me. by Kwyj1b0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's an idea for the people who seem to love to spend money on technology - have a system where I can take a look at the current (and expected) wait times before I leave for airport.

    While I'd still hate long waits, right now I have no idea if I'm going to be done in 10 minutes, or an hour. Maybe you could tell us? I'm sure you will come up with a "security" reason why us plebs shouldn't know how long the lines are going to be, and instead have to guesstimate the wait time.

    It might in fact work out better if you use an appointment type system - recently I was in line with a person who had come to the airport two hours before his flight, and someone whose flight was going to depart in the next 15 minutes. When you make wait times unpredictable, you are creating these type of situations.

  11. Former road warrior here. by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I used to spend almost half my time on the road. I used to have nightmares about air travel, but it was never about plane crashes, it was about horrible mess-ups on the ground -- delayed or canceled flight causing me to miss my connection. That kind of thing.

    Then a funny thing happened: sooner or later all of my nightmares ended up coming true.

    I've missed key meetings with clients because the airlines couldn't get me to my destination on the appointed day. I've spent the night trying to sleep sitting up at Chicago Midway. I once spent 23 hours and 53 minutes in the loving embrace of the air travel system, just to cross the continental United States. I've flown across the continent sandwiched between two sweaty three hundred pound men, and I'm no lightweight myself. I've flown to Chile on a ten hour flight that allowed smoking. I was supposed to be on the flight that flew into the South Tower of the WTC on 9/11, but my trips was cancelled at the last minute so I could attend a bullshit meeting at Oracle in Nashua NH, which of course didn't happen because we spent the whole day glued to the TV in the conference room.

    After having had almost every kind of bad air travel thing that can happen short of a crash or a hijacking, and having dodged one very major bullet, I just take all the crap air travel throws at me in stride. Flying will always be unreliable and inconvenient. Oh, you can learn the tricks of the trade, like "Never book an itinerary that involves Newark in any way," but there's no way to get around the fact that flying will always be inconvenient and unreliable, because the airlines will always promise more than they can deliver. So you show up ridiculously early in case of security snafus, bring plenty of stuff to read, and roll with the punches. It's like Hamlet said: there is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so. A screwed up itinerary is just an opportunity to catch up on my reading.

    The poster is right: if you have any option other than flying, choose that instead. I'll even take a four hour bus ride over a one hour flight, provided it's a non-stop bus. But if you have to fly, you just have to put up with it, because it'll never get much better than it is now. Sure, the TSA should fix their manpower problem, but even if they do flying will never be like what airlines promise it will be.

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  12. Re:How can I get in on this? by Kwyj1b0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know; competition very often produces much better results for a better price.

    The ground reality is that there will be very little competition for such contracts - the TSA replacement initiative will be created/overseen by politicians (the airlines/airports can't arbitrarily decide to switch to private providers, as far as I know), and they are going to write language/requirements so that only one (or at most a few) companies are capable of handling the project. There will be very little true competition - it basically will look like the US internet situation today. If more than one company can meet the requirements, they'll divvy up the market between themselves (mostly geographically) to avoid directly competing.