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Amazon and Microsoft Directors Charged in Prostitution Sting (kiro7.com)
An anonymous reader writes: A director from Microsoft and a former Amazon director have been charged with promoting prostitution after an investigation into Seattle-area sex trafficking, according to a local news report. Investigators say the director of worldwide health for Microsoft submitted over 70 reviews of prostitutes that he had allegedly hired since April 2012, according to the report, while the director of software development at Amazon, who worked on Fire TV, "allegedly hired prostitutes at least 29 times through The Review Board and TheLeague.Net, according to court documents." Both men have pleaded not guilty and are free on $75,000 bail, part of a group of 19 people now facing criminal charges. "These defendants, we allege, were absolutely devoted to the commercial sexual exploitation of vulnerable, powerless immigrant women," King County Prosecutors said in January, adding that the women, who were forced into prostitution to pay off debts to organized crime bosses in Asia, are not being charged.
Last January a Seattle newspaper reported that one alleged brothel owner "previously had made his living off illegal marijuana grows, but moved into prostitution when the drug was legalized."
Last January a Seattle newspaper reported that one alleged brothel owner "previously had made his living off illegal marijuana grows, but moved into prostitution when the drug was legalized."
Everyone knows Amazon and Microsoft are in bed together to screw over consumers.
It sounds like these guys committed "patronizing a prostitute", which is a misdemeanor:
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/defa...
They've been charged with "promoting prostitution"( being a pimp), which a felony:
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/defa...
Today I learned the term "grows" is a plural nown.
Kriston
Is by the prosecutor and the police. In countries where prostitution is legal, women selecting this as their choice of work of their own free will are the norm and exceptions are so rare that they make the papers. Also, "pimps" basically do not exist. Hence what is going on here is a deranged war on women that find selling sex for money gives them a sound economic basis and on men that are willing to buy that service. All the "trafficking" nonsense and "helpless" bullshit is just the same vile lies used to justify locking up as many people as possible (and most certainly those "rescued" face the same fate and will have the money they earned stolen in addition) over what in any sane country is a matter of a service rendered between consenting adults. The very kind of language used by the "authorities" already shows what this really is.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
To be fair, the Amazon employee was a Prime Now customer and had gotten so used to getting what he wanted in two hours that pumping drinks in to a girl all night in a bar (let alone the traditional three-dates before sex route) was just too damn slow.
The companies are most likely encouraging their employees to use prostitutes, due to the lack of single women in the Seattle area. Given that Vancouver is ~3 hours' drive from Seattle, it might make more sense to encourage them to take a day off to go somewhere that prostitution is legal.
If it weren't for the bad PR, they'd probably just directly lobby for prostitution to be regulated and legalized in WA. Given the souring economy (and the momentum of the marijuana legalization effort), this is likely to occur anyway.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
The prostitutes may be victims of sex trafficking but, the people being charged had nothing to do with that if it did take place. They should be going after the traffickers who brought them to this country if they were brought here either illegally or against their will or if they extorted them. Going after these guys is just the prosecutor trying to get his name in the paper, not trying to actually go after criminals.
"Be particularly skeptical when presented with evidence confirming what you already believe." -
"the commercial sexual exploitation of vulnerable, powerless immigrant women"
As opposed to the fremium model? Where the first sex is for free and after that you pay and pay and pay?
Look, an immigrant can't get a job and sell her pussy, she is neither vulnerable, or powerless, she's simply jobless. So she CHOOSES to exploit a few men for money in exchange for faking sexual interest. Perhaps she exploits her hands for massage? Why shouldn't it be a weiner massage? If she fingers his ass, how is she different from a nurse treating constipation?
This is sexist crap from feminists liars.
Prostituting oneself is a fundamental individual right. If it is not, then the government prostitutes, I mean politicians, should all be in jail and so should all those, who vote for them or give them money.
You can't handle the truth.
What's the use of having all the money in the world if you can't use it to purchase some world class vagina every once in a while?
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
"Can anyone provide any real evidence to disprove these facts?"
I can't disprove that your head is a giant cabbage either, but in this case that would be a pretty good guess.
Something not mentioned in the post. Here's a much better article: http://www.seattletimes.com/se...
So they arrested the clients and let the webmaster unmolested?
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Yes. Unfortunately, most of the recent bills passed to fight actual slavery (including sex slavery) have been used to fight sex work instead.
With legalized prostitution, it is much easier to help actual trafficking victims escape. This is the real harm of conflating trafficking/slavery with sex work.
As this article titles: The War on Sex Trafficking Is the New War on Drugs. And the results will be just as disastrous, for "perpetrators" and "victims" alike.
http://reason.com/archives/201...
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Looks like the submitter is trying to market the prosecution too with words like "vulnerable...exploited...". If they have sex and receive money, how is that worse than having sex and getting gifts? It's not worse, and if she needs the money you're doing her a favor by giving her money.
As for "previously had made his living off illegal marijuana grows, but moved into prostitution when the drug was legalized."... again marketing a baddie who is bad to the core. It has nothing to do with the claim against these men.
These men had sex with willing women and rewarded those women for the sex with money (instead of gifts). If you want to empower the women, make prostitution legal so they get more of the money. Giving them 'good reviews' is free speech not pimping.
There's nothing wrong with prostitution, and sex is the healthy interaction between men and women. This feminist crap is the *unhealthy* way to live.
"[he] previously had made his living off illegal marijuana grows, but moved into prostitution when the drug was legalized." I wonder what the government could do to make him and people like him stop (or move out of) prostitution.
"Ed2k" shows me a bunch of excel spreadsheets. "Chan" showed me photos of Jackie chan. Wtf, secret keywords...
Eating is legal and babies are legal, so why isn't...
I agree that it would be despicable to be knowingly be involved with sex slavery in any way. I'd also like to add some relevant information.
It's true that many women involved in prostitution are being coerced, either in the trafficking scenario or old-fashioned pimping. It's ALSO true that many women involved in prostitution freely decided that they'd like to make $250-$400 per hour. Further, in most (not all) cases it's pretty easy to tell the difference.
>then these guys are despicable because they quite likely realize what's going on
It sounds like these guys were active on some relevant forums, so yes they would have had at least a general idea that coerced prostitution exists. They certainly had plenty of information about which ladies to call if they wanted cheerful service from someone who was happy to have them as a client, without the obvious risks of entering a organized crime facility and stripping naked. People who abduct women, smuggle them across borders, and force them into prostitution are NOT the kind of people you want walking in the room while you're naked and defenseless. Same with garden-variety gangsta thug pimps. A john doesn't want to be in that situation.
Besides the risks of dealing with gangsters, have you ever had a high-end massage or other service provider where you're paying more than $150/hour? The professional is happy to have you as a client and the service you receive is FAR better than the service at Taco Bell, where the employee doesn't really want to be there. High-end escorts vs pimped women are no different. If the lady is keeping the $250 for herself, the john will get much better service than if a pimp is taking the money and she's been forced. For those reasons, informed customers generally wouldn't be at all interested in a lady with a pimp, even if they had no moral compass.
The review (and advertising) boards make it pretty darn easy to find ladies who appreciate their customers and even enjoy their work, and to avoid the pimps.
There was a moment when liberals briefly supported the right of prostitutes to operate legally as a business, but now they call it "trafficking" so they can make it evil again.
Except the illegality of prostitution is the whole reason for the trafficking. If prostitution was legal and out-in-the-open, then there would be no need for trafficking.
Why would anyone running a prostitution reviews site host it in the USA? Aren't there any number of countries with reasonably fast internet service where it's legal?
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
I didn't realise that Sweden had a Slashdot account. Wow.
He wouldn't have to re-start so often if he were using a Mac.
The unfortunate irony is that by making prostitution illegal, they have, in effect, targeted the victims of trafficking.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Do you have evidence outside that that would be her political stance (not personal) on the topic.
Hillary is too much of a political sell out fe be a Feminazi.
Beside in the United States prostitution laws are controlled by each individual state. For the most part doesn't have much political action asking such rules to be pushed on a national level.
Besides her stance on women's rights has been towards less regulation on what a woman can do because they are a woman not more.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
one alleged brothel owner "previously had made his living off illegal marijuana grows, but moved into prostitution when the drug was legalized."
So following simple logic, if you wanted get get him out of exploiting prostitution...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It is legal, you just have to do it in-front of a camera and call it porn
Babies eating isn't legal?! Damn those nursing advocacy groups...
Ezekiel 23:20
Read a little closer. These aren't women who chose to be prostitutes rather than being dental hygienists or auto mechanics. They were coerced or forced into prostitution to pay off debts to organized crime bosses. Debts that may have not have even been their own but of their family members. They were neither safe nor secure and it's doubtful they were allowed to keep much of the money.
How much were the Amazon and Microsoft directors aware of this exploitation? Don't know, but apparently the prosecutors think they knew these women didn't have many other options.
It should be illegal to enter a contract for sex when the person providing the sex is being forced to provide it and is not even the one getting compensated for it.
... I'd take the stand with something like the following:
Why yes, dear jury, 20 out of 29 prostitutes I hired were better than expected. The other nine, five were about average and the last four delivered disappointing service. I duly noted this in my reviews. But even the average service got decent tips and the good performers I tipped well. I think it pays to encourage good service.
And so what if they were prostitutes? We're all hiring ourself out to get by, or to do better than merely get by. In fact, in my line of work, making use of prostitution services is almost mandatory.
You see, I don't really have time to woo a woman except with money, and all that gets me is an expensive trophy wife. Those are no good in bed, let me tell you, I tried. This is a general problem when trying to meet women socially. Before you know it they're in it just for the money or that promotion. And if that promotion doesn't come through for some reason, it's sexual harassment suits. So I keep my pants on when on the job. But like any busy man I like and need to blow off some steam now and then. In fact, it's a necessity to keep a happy and productive atmoshphere in the office, too. We all work hard and need to wind down
sometimes.
So I'm too busy to go out, I can't fuck around on the job, and I can't hook someone who'll be interested in me more than my money. And if we're going there anyway, might as well be honest about it. So yes, dear jury, I hire prostitutes for sex. At least I know where they stand, I know they'll be good at it, and they'll know I'm a good customer and tip well.
In fact I already went the extra mile and helped them get more and better quality custom. By posting honest reviews I helped them get better paying clients. What more do you want of me?
Water melon?
that is pretty stupid thing to propose.
> The prostitutes may be victims of sex trafficking but, the people being charged had nothing to do with that if it did take place
The traffickers should be charged, of course. But the condition of these victims of sex trafficking as frightened, often brutalized, under-age, underpaid, slaves of their traffickers is not normally any surprise to the clients.
I wouldn't take anything a prosecutor said on this point at face value without substantiating evidence:
The War on Sex Trafficking Is the New War on Drugs
The tactics employed to "get tough" on drugs ended up entangling millions in the criminal justice system, sanctioning increasingly intrusive and violent policing practices, worsening tensions between law enforcement and marginalized communities, and degrading the constitutional rights of all Americans. Yet even as the drug war's failures and costs become more apparent, the Land of the Free is enthusiastically repeating the same mistakes when it comes to sex trafficking. This new "epidemic" inspires the same panicked rhetoric and punitive policies the war on drugs didâ"often for activity that's every bit as victimless.
Forcing others into sex or any sort of labor is abhorrent, and it deserves to be treated like the serious violation it is. But the activity now targeted under anti-trafficking efforts includes everything from offering or soliciting paid sex, to living with a sex worker, to running a classified advertising website.
What's more, these new laws aren't organic responses by legislators in the face of an uptick in human trafficking activity or inadequate current statutes. They are in large part the result of a decades-long anti-prostitution crusade from Christian "abolitionists" and anti-sex feminists, pushed along by officials who know a good political opportunity when they see it and by media that never met a moral panic they didn't like.
I started to read the links you sent.
The first one. Not bad. Jeff Bezos is a fucking ass.
Second one looks like it is commentary from a local radio station, and he seems to be more intent on bitching about unions (the very thing that could fix the problem in post one) and claiming that they work they do is just make busy work, and they don't focus on getting traffic to flow freely. His bitches here was a noise barrier wall to protect a neighborhood from freeway noise and animal over/underpasses. Honestly I am in favor of both of these things, and it sounds like he just wants to bitch.
Third one looks to be a forum of Seattle haters for Seattle haters. Of which the first post is bitching about not enough women in the city and how he cant get any of their attention cause they are always looking at their phones.
You went down hill fast here buddy.
High-paid executives pay for quality. And no sane man wants anything to do with jailbait
Women found breaking the law said it so it must be true...What would you do if an "organized crime boss" demanded something from you? This isn't Juarez, America has the rule of law
Having spent some time living in Thailand, I can tell you that things are much more complicated than your assumption. Girls are sold to brothels by parents, and the girls feel some weird family commitment to send money back home! Societally, the whole system is so fsckd up that you actually see more anti sex trafficking ads in the us than Bangkok!
I'm no Puritan, but things are getting pretty messed up, and something needs to be done to stop it.
Why is prostitution illegal at all?
One of the most common lines is "prostitution exploits women" -- if that's the case, then why are prostitutes arrested? Wouldn't they then be the victims? At least in the EU that seems to be emerging model, with Sweden and now France making accepting money for sex not illegal, but paying money for sex illegal. But that's very recent, and not generally reflective of long standing practices and criminal law.
A more enduring answer seems to be that it's merely reflective of anti-sex morality, the same mindset that used to criminalize pornography, birth control and made sodomy and adultery actual crimes. Although most all of those things have mostly stopped being illegal, as society on balance has become accepting of sex as recreation -- sodomy and adultery laws have mostly been overturned or aren't enforced anymore, singles bars, Craigslist/Tinder/Grindr, etc. And also, in not the not so distant past, society was more tolerant of prostitution -- brothels operated more openly -- despite a generally stronger social prohibition on sex outside of marriage.
I think prostitution remains illegal -- with the public justification shifting in spite of general acceptance of sex outside of wedlock -- because women don't like prostitution. Despite the general changes in attitude about sex outside of marriage, women still see sexuality as a significant bargaining chip in social relations with men. Legalized prostitution thus represents a threat to women's bargaining status in relationships.
If men can buy sex whenever they want it for only money, women lose a significant bargaining advantage in relationships with men. Their sexuality no longer represents a scarce good or service and they can no longer structure their relationship demands around controlling access to sex. Which seems really ironic, since women often loudly decry being seen as "sex objects" and want to be valued for their intelligence or other personality traits, yet it seems as in spite of that, women continue to see their sexuality as primary tool in attracting and maintaining mail interest in relationships.
You would think that *women* would want prostitution legal, though, because it would in theory act as a kind of filter for men they wish to engage in more substantive relationships with. It would, in theory, make the pool of men they encounter to more likely be interested in non-sexual aspects of a relationship, reducing the effort needed to filter men who falsify their intentions in order to gain sex.
> High-paid executives pay for quality.
I really don't know how you conclude this. Many highly paid executives are thieves and scoundrels, and many are quite cheap in their personal habits. There are old British "class" distinctions of dress, of hobbies, and of personal habits. It's especially true in the tech world, where the hobbies they learned in technological schools and focusing on their technology left little time for expensive pursuits.
Highly paid executives often have expensive hobbies on which they lavish resources and affection, and do pay for quality in those particular interests. But to generalize this to say that they would therefore pay for "quality" in the sex trade is not well founded.
> And no sane man wants anything to do with jailbait
The sexual popularity of children is well documented. You cannot reasonably say "no one sane would do this, therefore it does not happen". Various child trafficking reports claim that over 100,000 children in the US each year are engaged in child prostitution, usually forced.
Officer Collins: [addressing military brass] You see, a pimp's love is very different from that of a square...
Except the illegality of prostitution is the whole reason for the trafficking. If prostitution was legal and out-in-the-open, then there would be no need for trafficking.
Logically yes, but this is about politics, not logic.
You missed the point. The point is that there is an enormous depth of dislike for what Seattle has become. Only a few of those commenting are being completely logical. If they were logical, they would move away from Seattle.
Can you find other web sites and articles about people who dislike their city? I'd like to see them.
Consider the U.S. metropolitan area centered on Portland, Oregon:
Portland has become unlivable. There are traffic jams all day. The air is poisonous. Things About Portland That Suck
Intel has been emitting fluoride for years without state knowledge, permit. Quote: "When Intel applied for D1X approval, the company considered its fluoride emissions insignificant and did not include those. It was only when the company applied for the new DEQ permit required by greenhouse gas regulations that it requested a 6.4-tons-per-year fluoride emission limit. " 6.4-tons-per-year!!!
Oregon warns home gardeners, Portland leaders lash out at state pollution response. Quote: "Regulators have known for years that Portland has high levels of the heavy metal cadmium in the air, but didn't know until 2015 what the likely sources were." Another quote: "The department's own air monitoring found arsenic levels were 159 times higher than the state's safety goal in Southeast Portland and cadmium levels were 49 times higher."
Portland pollution: How does it affect you? Quote: "Tests detected cadmium and arsenic near Bullseye Glass in Southeast Portland and Uroboros Glass in North Portland. Superheating the metals, which are used to add color to glass, can send small particles up smokestacks and into surrounding air." The next paragraph: "The state also found that another carcinogen, hexavalent chromium, was used by the two plants."
Portland, Oregon is no longer a livable city in other ways. Portland city management is allowing the construction of large buildings with no parking! One story: New Portland apartment buildings with no parking have neighbors worried about congested streets.
Without more than your unsupported assertion, why would any sensible person accept these charges as facts?
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
Women found breaking the law said it so it must be true...What would you do if an "organized crime boss" demanded something from you? This isn't Juarez, America has the rule of law
Despite having the "rule of law", organized crime still exists in the US and manages to blackmail, bully, and coerce people into doing all kinds of things. But again if you read the article, you'll find that these are Asian crime bosses and presumably the prostitutes are brought here from Asia. Not hard to imagine that crossing their pimps could lead to severe consequences for the prostitutes themselves or for their family back home.
I'm sure one reason they don't go to the authorities is one you just implied, - they're just whores, who is going to believe them? I'd bet their pimps drill that one into them.
That's defacto the way it is in the area the article is about. It doesn't reduce the underground trade because the women don't generally realize they can go to the police for help, or if they do realize it, they don't get the opportunity.
It is illegal, notice how the johns are getting prosecuted and the prostitutes are getting let go.
They're not from here, they don't realize they can go to the police for help.
The people in power are happy to take advantage of the gullibility of prudes. FTFY.
Never underestimated a person's ability to not see truths that they don't want to see.
"Be particularly skeptical when presented with evidence confirming what you already believe." -
Obviously this is a publicity grab for law enforcement. Why would you come down hard on the buyers and fail to do the same on the sellers? Funny how drug charges don't work that way at all. They murder the sellers and usually charge the buyers with minor crimes.
Yes, it is. And that goes all the way back to some of our major political figures' involvement in liquor smuggling during Prohibition. More recently, Seattle's cabaret laws were written to perpetuate the Colacurcio family monopoly of strip clubs. And they were probably written with input from Frank himself. According to some NGOs involved in stopping sex trafficking, Seattle's laws bear striking resemblances to those in some Asian countries designed to keep sex workers indentured to specific clubs. And one of the most significant lobbying forces to keep Seattle's laws as they are is law enforcement. Who spend quite a bit of time sending undercover officers into clubs with our tax dollars to buy lap dances.
Have gnu, will travel.
Can you find other web sites and articles about people who dislike their city? I'd like to see them.
Both New York City and San Francisco come to mind.... especially SF.
Portland has become unlivable. There are traffic jams all day. The air is poisonous.
Works for Los Angeles!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
"The article about fluoride emissions is short on information."
These are the chemicals Intel emits, listed on page 28 of the report linked below: Vinyl acetate, Ethyl benzene, Xylenes (mixed), Sulfuric acid, Nitric acid, Fluorides, Hydrogen Fluoride, Perchloroethylene {Tetrachloroethene}, and Ethylene glycol monobutyl ether.
The Portland metropolitan area doesn't have good news reporting. The Oregonian newspaper is poorly managed, in my opinion. The only Oregonian reporter for technology issues is Mike Rogoway. He apparently has almost no technical knowledge.
This Oregonian article gives some information: Intel secures air quality permit, two years after fluoride gaffe derailed it. Intel emitting poisonous compounds was not a "gaffe", it was extremely destructive dishonesty.
That article links to an Intel Health Risk Report (PDF file), but I don't see anything showing the amounts of the chemicals emitted.
It seems to me that Intel has handled its business in an extremely destructive and self-destructive manner. Intel's plants should not be allowed to emit poisons.
Apparently there is a continuing intention to avoid rather than resolve the many issues. Intel is by far the biggest employer in the area. Avoiding effective disclosure and avoiding actually fixing the emission problems seems to be helped by government incompetence and possibly government corruption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
For hire.
They told us legalizing marijuana would lead to increased crime, and here it is!
(In observance of Poe's Law, I probably should state explicitly here that I'm making fun of the people who believe this.)
It's easy to distract attention from the main point. Cities can be unhealthy, much more unhealthy than is commonly discussed.
Apparently the air quality in Portland, Oregon is far worse than the city or state governments are willing to investigate. The traffic is now jammed most of the day; 4 years ago, it was jammed during rush hours.
What does "content" mean? I'm guessing that many Chinese Factory workers would say they are "content".
Stop the presses! Rich executives hiring prostitutes? So,about those immigrant prostitutes - assuming Seattle is a 'Sanctuary City' why didn't they go to police and turn in their captors? I thought sanctuary cities would allow illegals protection under the law? Stricter border enforcement makes it harder to import sex slaves - open borders lead to increased human trafficking.
Did you actually read the article or just look at the pictures? The article makes it quite plain that the webmaster (Sigurd Zitars) was arrested..
That's not really true. Here in Vancouver we have a problem with illegal trafficking in restaurant workers, a perfectly legal business. Due to having the lowest minimum wage and highest cost of living in the country, restaurants (and other minimum wage businesses) lobby to get labour under the foreign worker program (similar to H1Bs) rather then paying enough to attract local labour.
Often the workers are coerced into illegally paying for their temporary visa, perhaps $10,000, and then basically enslaved as they can't pay off the debt on minimum wage minus living costs that are forced on them, eg being forced to pay large rents. They are also commonly put to work in a different location then their visa allows and then threatened with deportation if they don't do what their bosses demand or complain to the authorities about abuse.
As long as illegal trafficking means cost savings, it'll happen whether a business is legal or not, and many businesses will pay the minimum possible rather then raising wages to get needed labour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
More about Amazon: Inside Amazon's Warehouse
Quoting: "On June 2, a warehouse employee contacted OSHA to report the heat index hit 102 degrees in the warehouse and 15 workers collapsed. The employee also complained that workers who had to go home due to heat symptoms received disciplinary points."
Another quote: "When the heat index ranges from 100 to 114 degrees, Amazon 'typically' gives hourly breaks of at least five minutes and shifts heavier work to cooler times of the day, Forney said."
"On July 25, a security guard at the Amazon warehouse called OSHA and said the temperature exceeded 110 degrees. The guard reported seeing two pregnant women taken to nurses and that Amazon would not open garage doors to help air circulation."
"One employee said it's now like 'working in a convection oven while blow-drying your hair.' They said they received extra break time when it was hot, but production rates were not reduced.
"Ambulances responded to multiple medical assistance calls at the Amazon warehouse during hot days in May. So Amazon paid Cetronia Ambulance Corps to have ambulances and paramedics stationed at its two adjacent warehouses during five days of excessive heat in June and July."
"Another 15 people were transported from the Amazon warehouse to hospitals for further treatment, according to Cetronia, but none was in critical condition."
Amazon's response seems to me to be sophisticated lying. The response avoided all the issues:
' "The safety and welfare of our employees is our No. 1 priority at Amazon, and as the general manager, I take that responsibility seriously," Mortimer said. "We go to great lengths to ensure a safe work environment, with activities that include free water, snacks, extra fans and cooled air during the summer. I am grateful to work with such a fantastic group of employees from our community, and we partner with them every day to make sure our facility is a great place to work." '
"Works for Los Angeles!"
I'm glad I no longer live in the L.A. area. (Orange County)
Why is it a problem?
Remember that in the eyes of the law, a 17 years and 364 days old person is still a "children".
Moved away from Portland after many years. The traffic there is slow all day, causing the pollution to be much higher. Portland city managers have been allowing developers to build large apartment buildings with NO parking. In many areas it is difficult to find a place to park.
The war on the sex trade is like the war on drugs - a pointless waste of money. Legalize prostitution.
Sex trafficking would not exist if it weren't profitable, so purchasing the use of sex slaves does contribute to the problem.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Legalize Microsoft?
I think you are going a bit too far with this.
Have gnu, will travel.
"Last January a Seattle newspaper reported that one alleged brothel owner "previously had made his living off illegal marijuana grows, but moved into prostitution when the drug was legalized.""
cool so just legalize prostitution then?
None of this would be a problem if prostitution was just legalized. There's no need for such puritanical laws to still exist.