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Firefox Tops Microsoft Browser Market Share For First Time (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader writes from a report via Ars Technica: For the first time, Firefox has pulled ahead of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and Edge browsers. Mozilla's Firefox grabbed 15.6 percent of worldwide desktop browser usage in April, according to the latest numbers from Web analytics outfit StatCounter. Google Chrome continues to dominate two thirds of the market. StatCounter, which analyzed data from three million websites, found that Firefox's worldwide desktop browser usage last month was 0.1 percent ahead of the combined share of Internet Explorer and Edge at 15.5 percent. Firefox has reportedly been losing market share over the last three months, but Microsoft's Edge and Internet Explorer browsers appear to be declining faster. Last week, Mozilla launched Test Pilot, a program for trying out experimental Firefox features. They've also been fighting the FBI in court for details about a vulnerability in the Tor Browser hack, which may affect the company since the Tor browser is partially based on the Firefox browser code.
I just knew Netscape Navigator could do it!!
Firefox has pulled ahead of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and Edge browsers
If I'm reading the graphs in TFA correctly, Firefox has "pulled ahead" of IE/Edge by losing market share over 3 months (going from 16.1% to 15.6%), but losing less than IE and Edge combined (16.6% to 15.5%). Yippee, terrific surge!
Who the fuck cares about extensions in this case? That isn't even the issue. Edge fucking sucks. It's an unstable pile of garbage. We have forty computers running it, and we've had to set Chrome or Firefox as default browser (and PDF reader as well, Edge is equally shitty at displaying PDFs) because of instabilities that, in many cases bring up lovely error dialogs when it tries to start.
It is a piece of worthless fucking garbage, a toy browser, built on the Metro UI, even as Microsoft backs away from Metro.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
FTFY:
"Firefox 'Tops' Microsoft browser share.... if you don't count chrome which has an 60% install base"
Seriously, I expect this type of clickbait on BuzzFeed, not Slashdot :/.
Well yes, Firefox tops Microsoft browser share whether or not you choose to count Chrome, since Chrome is neither Firefox or Microsoft. In other words, Summary Title, which did not imply that Firefox had the most browser share, is not misleading at all. Unless you want to mislead yourself and then get upset about it.
Seriously, I expect this type of post from ACs.
Firefox: Still the only browser I know of that properly supports side tabs via the TreeStylesTab plug in.
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Please let us know how you really feel about Edge.
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
It's not necessarily that Edge is a piece of shit. It's the fact that Edge is written by Microsoft. Those of us with memories longer than 15 minutes remember the decades long clusterfuck that Microsoft caused, and I dunno about you but I will *never* give them the opportunity to do it again.
The way they're (mis)handling Windows 10 shows that they haven't learned anything, and are going to try to be as obnoxious as people will let them get away with.
I don't care if Microsoft Edge will enable me to shit gold bullion. There's still gonna be a massive catch somewhere... maybe not now, but definitely in the future.
He's right, statcounter by default has been blocked by AdBlockPlus for a long time (although possibly only the "easyprivacy" list).
And seeing as ABP is the most popular extension by far, and the in-built Tracker Protection in Firefox also blocks statcounter (although currently only active in private browsing mode).
... the stats could be pretty skewed.
IE is not good, but EDGE is awful. I've got Win10 on a laptop I use quite often and after doing some damage control, e.g. taking control of the update process, I found it is quite useable, not my favorite but far from the worst OS I've ever used, but EDGE is hands down the worst browser I can actually recall using in more than 15 years. Edge is ugly, slow and cumbersome, and lacks basic features that nearly every other browser on the market commonly supports.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
Please let us know how you really feel about Edge.
Actually I thought he was pulling his punches. Edge is the most remarkably awful browser I've ever tried. Might as well try to surf porn with Lynx.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Honestly I have to agree at this point...initial impressions of Windows 10 in my case were great....
I was the same when they dropped the first consumer technical releases, it was great, everything Windows 8 should have been. Then Microsoft finally dropped the stable release for mass consumption and it was good. When they offered the free upgrade to Windows 10 I started moving my company over to it.
Now, after experiencing Windows 10 day in and day out at the office, and the constant bewilderment of Microsoft's decisions regarding it, I have come to like Windows 10 less and less. I am to the point now where I prefer Windows 8.1 over 10. As it stands, I intend to pitch Linux as a viable alternative for our business in the near future. About the only thing that would really tie us to Windows at this point is peoples inability to user any other mail application besides Outlook. And I desperately want to cure people of that horrid mail client. ;)
> Might as well try to surf porn with Lynx.
https://www.asciipr0n.com/pr0n...
You were saying?
(I remember a time when some of that would have been...effective.
Forking is the answer. When closed source developers decide to turn around and make their product into a steaming pile of shit, and your options are steaming pile of shit and nothing. This is where OSS shines, especially when OSS devs decide to make their product into a steaming pile of shit, there is someone out there turning around and fixing it. That's what Palemoon has done for Firefox.
Om, nomnomnom...
I suppose it works mostly well and it's fast but as a nerd who's been on Firefox since before it was called Firefox (I've finally forgotten the other name) I prefer FF.
I mean, ok, google don't want me to skin Chrome? Ok fine, fine - but do you think I can find a decent tab mix plus alternative? I *NEED* tab mix plus, I utterly need it.
I 'learnt' tabbed browsing with NetCaptor (skin over the top of IE, added tabbed browsing, it was very good for its day) and I found and still find the tap ordering the most logical with it, by far.
Tab Mix Plus provides incredibly powerful tab control options, so I can replicate NetCaptor under FF.
My firefox does this:
*Middle click a link*, open in the background, one tab slot to the RIGHT of the current tab (inserting itself)
*CTRL N* (new tab) opens a tab, one tab slot to the RIGHT of the current tab, in the foreground
*Close tab*, closes tab and takes you to the tab to the LEFT of the one you just closed.
Duplicate tab (CTRL-ALT-T), same as middle click, opens a copy of the existing tab to the RIGHT of current tab and in the background
Now I suppose if you're not used to that system and you're used to chrome, that probably sounds awful? For me, I find it immensely logical. I NEVER want a new tab or duplicate tab or middle click tab to open right at the very end of my tab grouping, why would I want that? I want this new piece of data, right next to me, where I'm working.
I don't know if finer tab control options are blocked in Chrome or not but no such addon yet exists, built in ability to do this doesn't exist. Considering the age of Chrome and the popularity of TMP, I can only guess Chrome has simply not go the option to do it.
I do use chrome but it's relegated to be my 'second monitor, good at youtube / flash video' browser while I use FF for my main work.
FWIW I'm ... an extreme browser, likely extremely addicted to the web. Right now I've managed to close several hundred tabs this week and I'm down to about 200. I like to be as low as possible of course but right now I have 200 open, it's just how I browse.
Rotation of staff. The people who were there when the previous fuckups happened are long gone. So new people in new seats and coming up with BRILLIANT ideas, which repeat the fuckups. Wash rinse repeat. I would also bet that the people doing the coding are not the people making the decisions, it's either marketing or fucking business making these asshole decisions. I would bet if you spoke to any of the actual software engineers they would say that they didn't have a choice, the decision to do XYZ again came down from the top. What microsoft needs to start doing is listening to their fucking engineers and not their fucking bean counters. They are a SOFTWARE company, and by not listening to their SOFTWARE people they are killing themselves. I have been a MS stack programmer since I left school and even I am starting to drift away from microsoft, the only PC's in my house running windows now are gaming rigs, everything else is running linux.
There are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third is statistics.
Can't use anything but Outlook? Seriously? How massively incompetent are you? You should be fired for being such a useless moron. No one so pathetic and pointless in their job should be employed.
Perhaps you should have read more carefully - with a view to understanding - before you started calling people morons:
...peoples inability to user any other mail application besides Outlook.
To me, that suggests he is talking about about somebody other than himself. I expect you will now be considering your own position, if in fact you are employed.