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China Fakes 488 Million Social Media Posts a Year To Deceive Its Citizens (bloomberg.com)

In an attempt to keep its citizens from seeing bad news and getting involved in sensitive political debates, China's government fabricates about 488 million social media comments a year, reports Bloomberg citing a study (PDF). The propaganda workers who post comments are known as Fifty Cent Party because they are believed to be paid 50 Chinese cents by the Chinese government for every comment they post. From the report: Although those who post comments are often rumored to be ordinary citizens, the researchers were surprised to find that nearly all the posts were written by workers at government agencies including tax and human resource departments, and at courts. The researchers said they found no evidence that people were paid for the posts, adding the work was probably part of the employees' job responsibilities. Fifty Cent Party is a derogatory term since it implies people are bought off cheaply. About half of the positive messages appear on government websites, and the rest are injected into the 80 billion social media posts that enter China's Internet. That means one of every 178 social media posts on China's micro blogs is made up by the government, the researchers said. The sites affected include those run by Tencent Holdings Ltd., Sina Corp. and Baidu Inc.

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  1. I'd join the "Fifty Cent Party" by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    Too lazy to RTFA, but a "Fifty Cent" party sounds like a good time.

    >> China Fakes 488 Million Social Media Posts a Year To Deceive Its Citizens

    Hmm...that seems low. Here in the US, I'll bet we're at least over a billion on this statistic.
    e.g., http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/18/ap-perpetuates-tale-benghazi-attack-caused-anti-is/

  2. Meanwhile in the USA... by wardrich86 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    488 million accounts are being faked to help spread doom, fear, and other bad news over stupid, menial things like which bathroom people should use, and why unisex bathrooms are the worst idea in the history of the world.

    1. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm very sure the US is NO DIFFERENT.

      we all suspect that various social media sites (this one included) are invaded by paid shills to slant the discussion in the direction that their funders wish.

      the US is definitely not above this. what's different is that its not blatant and official; but that does not mean it does not exist.

      lets also remember that over the last 20 years, the media has been bought by the government in all practical terms. when wa the last time you saw a hardball question thrown to a candidate by the mainstream 'news' ? when a story about privacy or terrorism is breaking, does the news side with the gov or the people?

      corporations are also 'people' now and they pay shills to tip the story balance in their favor via commentors.

      this should be taught in schools; that we are bombarded by info at all directions but that most of it, sadly, is propaganda and you have to be suspicious of everything you hear and see since, well, so many agendas are out there and news isn't news anymore, its paid PR spin.

      at least in china, they know this. in the US, many of us still think that news is real. many of us still think wrestling on TV is real, too (sigh).

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    2. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by wardrich86 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You're right. After I made my silly bathroom post, I remembered reading about Hillary Clinton having her own Propaganda machine hitting sites like Reddit to try to convince people that she's not a bought-out liar.

    3. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by rickb928 · · Score: 2

      The differences being that the Chinese government is expecting their campaign to be 0. effective and 1. meaningful.

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    4. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by gurps_npc · · Score: 2

      Yes of course. Which is why any mention of Ferguson is wiped from the internet the way any mention of Tiananmen square is.

      And why in the US, politicans routinely vanish for weeks, and no one dares ask if they had a heart attack.

      And why in the US, reporters refuse to accuse a Secretary of State of having committed crimes, out of fear they will be arrested and charged.

      And why in the US, people that are not established, long standing, loyal members of a political party have zero chance of leading the country.

      Oh wait, NONE OF THOSE ARE TRUE. Just as none of the wacko nightmares that haunt your paranoid mind are true.

      There is a real difference between the US where people try to influence public opinion and sometimes pass convoluted laws to help out the state and a Tyranny where public opinion is locked in by state run media and all laws are directly made for the benefit of the state

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    5. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Thanks to Snowden we know for a fact that GCHQ, a sub-division of the NSA, does in fact do a lot of manipulation of social media. In fact they mention Slashdot by name.

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    6. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2

      Every discussion on slashdot that is based on negative coverage regarding any nation ALWAYS devolves into a US comparison and bashfest. It's like Godwin's Law, only I'm not sure what it's called. Slashdot's Law?

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    7. Re:Meanwhile in the USA... by s.petry · · Score: 2

      You just explained your own lack of objectivity, you didn't explain their lack of the same. You are claiming that being force fed cyanide kills you, he is claiming that arsenic in low doses will kill you over time. In both cases you are being poisoned and in both cases you die. You seem to want to deny the poisoning is occurring, or claiming that if it's not cyanide it does not matter.

      Pointing out what should be obvious, convincing people to drink water instead of arsenic laced juice is a good thing. You attacking people trying to do that, is a bad thing.

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  3. Re:Free!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Like you. Thanks for serving the country.

  4. Re:Nuclear? by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

    I do it for free.

  5. Whats worse, them or the Putin / Russia shills? by oic0 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seems on english speaking sites I run in to far more Putin shills.

  6. The sad part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The sad part is that if you asked around (in China), you would find that a large percentage, if not the majority, of Chinese people actually "support" these forms of oppression. THAT is the power of indoctrination. When you spend your entire life knowing nothing but authoritarianism and oppression, and being told constantly that it's for your benefit, you will have a very difficult time imagining the alternative. It's similar to how a life-long prisoner, upon being set free, finds that he just can't function properly outside of prison. The authoritarianism is actually comforting to them, and that's exactly how the rulers would have it. The only people who dare to imagine a better society are the radicals, and we all know what happens to radicals in China.

    1. Re:The sad part by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >> The only people who dare to imagine a better society are the radicals, and we all know what happens to radicals in China.

      And back here in the US, those of us who dare to imagine a better society are mostly ignored and then arrogantly told that our preferred candidate should "do the right thing" (endorse the status quo) when we try to use our existing democratic process to advance our agenda. Sounds like becoming a radical might be the smarter course of action... :)

    2. Re:The sad part by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      Vs the conservatives, who support freedom to own a gun but want the government policing the media to stop people saying dirty words?

      "Freedom" is a concept so abstract that it's impossible to even agree on a definition.

    3. Re:The sad part by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      I didn't disagree with the poster above. My intended point was the symmetry: Liberals and conservatives, and most political factions, agree that freedom is a good thing... they just want to make a few exceptions. The exact extent of these exceptions varies greatly. All sides insist that their restrictions are absolutely necessary for a healthy and peaceful society, and the other sides are oppressive tyrants who will take your freedom away for their own ends.

  7. Re: Whats worse, them or the Putin / Russia shills by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or maybe your worldview is so skewed, you call everyone who disagrees with you a shill.

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  8. Re:50cents/post sounds low but it beats going outs by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    It is not 0.50 USD. It is 0.50 RMB, or about 0.08 USD.

  9. Re:Irony... by gtall · · Score: 2

    DARPA doesn't tell you how to conduct you research, it either funds you or does not. In this case, DARPA was willing to fund a study that either supported or debunked a claim about their bureaucracy polluting social media. The authors were quite up front about what they were studying in the abstract of their paper.

  10. Re:Very low number! by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 2

    That does seem low. Only 488 million?? In a country with eighty billion social posts a year? I would have guessed a much higher number.

    If your numbers are correct, that means that only about 0.61% of posts, about 1 in every 165, are government astroturfers. That really does seem low. I almost feel like those may be better odds than you get on Slashdot.

    Still, I mean, most social media posts nowadays are just pictures of food. That throws off the statistics, because the Chinese government probably doesn't feel the need to fake many of those. North Korea is another story. I heard that 19 out of the 26 posts on North Korean social media last year were pictures of food faked by the government..