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Apple Opens First 'Next Generation' Retail Store (usatoday.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Apple has opened its new flagship store on Thursday in San Fransisco, throwing the curtain back on a design that puts a premium on hanging out over shopping. About 20 percent of the new store's space features an open Forum area where visitors can learn about Apple's various products. The new design is rolling out to stores in Brussels, Memphis and Guilderland, N.Y. "This is the next generation of Apple retail," Angela Ahrendts, Apple's senior vice president of retail and online operations, told media. "Fifteen years ago today Apple opened its first two stores and we're thrilled to mark the occasion with the opening of Apple Union Square in San Francisco," she said. "We are not just evolving our store design, but its purpose and greater role in the community as we educate and entertain visitors and serve our network of local entrepreneurs." The new stores were designed by Ahrendts and Apple's design chief, Jony Ive. "Among the other big changes in evidence is morphing Apple's Genius Bar to Genius Grove; the addition of a new Boardroom area dedicated to small business customers; and the advent of a new staff position, Apple Creative Pro, tasked with helping consumers with specific questions on music, photography, videos and the like," writes USA Today. "In addition, some of Apple's most significant store locations, include the [Apple Union Square in San Fransisco], will feature a public Plaza that will be open 24/7 and feature free Wi-Fi as well as occasional concerts and other performances." Oh, and you can't forget about the new 6K video wall, which display broadcasts various Apple products.

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  1. Why Guilderland? by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1

    One of these cities is not like the other...

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    1. Re:Why Guilderland? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Most likely because it's an upscale mall in the Albany area, which is reasonably affluent, and not too far from New York City, so they can experiment without necessarily closing a more flagship store.

    2. Re:Why Guilderland? by msauve · · Score: 1

      Not like the others? No one's heard of San Fransisco, either.

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  2. Ew by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hope this is a /vertisement because it'd somehow be worse if the editors greenlit this honestly. Also at the risk of being modded troll: no multi-national, maybe least of all Apple, should be touting the be touting their commitment to community given what they do to their workers overseas.

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    1. Re:Ew by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Actually it is the worker's governments which permit this sort of thing that need to change. For that to happen, the citizens living there need to do something.

    2. Re:Ew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno, I found one bit newsworthy:

      the advent of a new staff position, Apple Creative Pro, tasked with helping consumers with specific questions on music, photography, videos and the like

      The current answer for that is "buy a Surface Pro and look into an Adobe Creative Cloud subscription." (Which is a fancy way of telling someone to find the Pirate Bay.)

      Apple has killed their creation software (literally, they killed Aperture, their professional photo software, and Final Cut Pro, their professional movie editing software - they never had pro audio software that I'm aware of). Their current top of the line computers are two generations old compared to PCs. The creative industry is moving off Apple and onto Windows because Apple has basically entirely abandoned the ability to create stuff on their platforms. The Surface Pro is basically the perfect content creation device - which is why Apple had to rip it off with their "iPad Pro." Except they didn't stick a real OS on the iPad Pro so the Surface Pro is STILL the superior device!

      The idea that Apple would advertise Windows products is amazing.

      Or maybe they're just going to lie to people and pretend that anyone uses iMovie or Photos (just photos, they killed the product that was iPhoto) for anything other than mocking.

    3. Re: Ew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      M$ shill detected...

  3. This is what you do when your products suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is what you do when your products suck; suck ass, suck hind tit and suck moosecock.

    1. Re:This is what you do when your products suck. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      This is what you do when your products suck; suck ass, suck hind tit and suck moosecock.

      This is what you do when your comment sucks; use the words suck, hind, tit, and mousecock.

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    2. Re: This is what you do when your products suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go away, Moby-Pachinko.

  4. Well duh by s.petry · · Score: 0

    When you serve the best koolaide in the world you better have open rest rooms!

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    1. Re:Well duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure the koolaid is derived from 'genderfluid'

  5. The Memphis one opened a month ago by destinyland · · Score: 2

    The one in Memphis has an enormous screen on one wall.

    http://appleinsider.com/articl...

    They say it's designed to give you the laid-back feeling of shopping in a small town.

    1. Re:The Memphis one opened a month ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And technically, it is in Germantown, not Memphis. The Germantown folks tend to get their latte cups in a twist if you say they are part of Memphis.

  6. I'm so ecited by Alomex · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm so excited. If this isn't true innovation I don't know what is. I'll go line up now for when the store opens.

    1. Re:I'm so ecited by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      It reminds me of book and media stores before the Internet came along and killed the demand for physical media. Before that coffee houses. Before that taverns.

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  7. Re:Ooh boy! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 0

    I'll bet the bathrooms are even transgender!

    Good.

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  8. Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    "the advent of a new staff position, Apple Creative Pro" - sounds more like a software title. I'm sure they'll be as "creative" as the Apple Geniuses at the genius bars are "geniuses."

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    1. Re:Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by Strudelkugel · · Score: 1

      They should have used a water park theme instead, one with a jump and a shark. Then the customers could impress each other... oh wait.

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    2. Re:Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok toughguy. I work at the Apple store on Chestnut St. Come in there and say that to my face.

    3. Re:Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Ok toughguy. I work at the Apple store on Chestnut St. Come in there and say that to my face.

      You're obviously one of those "Apple geniuses". :-)

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    4. Re:Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      If I ran a next-gen Apple Store, I would have this video projected on an endless loop.

      https://youtu.be/hfjHJneVonE

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    5. Re:Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Welcome to euphemism land!

      People are not retarded anymore, they are "special". People are not crippled anymore, they are "differently able". Broke people are not on the dole, they're "the Precariat".

      And useless people are now "Apple Geniuses".

      What's so difficult to understand? Get with the times, man!

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    6. Re:Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I think we found the reason Russia invaded the Ukraine.

      KILL IT WITH FIRE! Holy mother of $deity, what the FUCK is that?

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    7. Re:Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " "You're obviously one of those "Apple geniuses". :-) "

      +100

    8. Re:Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I ran a next-gen Apple Store, I would have this video projected on an endless loop.

      https://youtu.be/hfjHJneVonE

      that shit is HILARIOUS!

      I literally could not stop laughing thinking what would that abortion of a store would be like if they did play that video on loop.

      great humor man

    9. Re:Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      Hey, at least you get to look forward to the fact that when you leave the Apple Store, with a closet full of khakis and blue shirts, you'll already have the wardrobe needed to work at Best Buy!

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    10. Re:Businesses, stop with the stupid job titles by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      I sir, would be at your store DAILY! It's the rhinestone encrusted accordian that did it for me...

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  9. Apple, how do you do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing says "hip" like a pair of pasty-white toothpick legs poking out from under a utili-kilt. How does Apple stay so bleeding-edge.

    1. Re:Apple, how do you do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean 'hipster' don't you? Your bigotry towards white people is proof AA has gone too far.

  10. Re:Ooh boy! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

    We walk among you, we are everywhere, and you have met us, dated us, and slept with us

    Not all of you. Not yet.

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  11. That worked out really well by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    for those guys at the Square. The one with the tanks.

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  12. Hey guys! by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

    I've seen these things called "Hackerspaces", so what about making "Applespaces"?

    1. Re:Hey guys! by jrumney · · Score: 0

      Applespaces... spaces where the sheeple will come and stare at awe at our high-resolution advertisements playing 24/7 in our stores. And a space where they can sit down and recover from all the shocks their wristband will be giving them as they overspend to further increase the size of our vast offshore cash reserves.

    2. Re:Hey guys! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      You give them an Apple portable and a screwdriver and see how long it takes for someone to break a product trying to open it?

    3. Re:Hey guys! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Applespaces? Is that like... you know, Safe Spaces, just way more FABULOUS?

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    4. Re:Hey guys! by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      You give them a 2014 Mac mini, a 8GB SODIMM and tell them they have only 15 minutes to upgrade the computer.

  13. People seem to have forgotten by wickerprints · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Originally, when Apple planned to renovate the Union Square retail location, they intended to remove the fountain that was on the property. Regardless of the aesthetic/cultural value of that fountain (personally, I think it's kind of an eyesore but I absolutely respect that others might not feel the same way), the public protested, and as a result, Apple changed their plan, and the fountain remains.

    I think that says something about a corporation--even one as large and influential as Apple is--that they are willing to listen to the community. That they designed the store with the intent--whether or not it is realized--to integrate with the community, is something that I doubt many other major tech companies really care about. But in typical pessimist Slashdot "nothing is ever good enough and every action has some sinister and ulterior motive" fashion, people seem to always find some reason to complain.

    Yes, it's a retail store. Yes, it's for Apple to make money. Yes, there was an environmental impact. No, Apple doesn't sell your beloved Android system. No, Apple isn't God, and they don't let their iPhones run anything you want. No, Apple doesn't do everything you want them to do exactly how you want them to do it and for free. No, the building is not some miracle of architecture designed to be perfect in every way, even if Apple hopes you might think so. Yes, Apple has their cult following.

    Given all that, just take a deep breath, relax, and admit that it's a decent renovation, that there will be people who will enjoy the new store, and that Apple, unlike a lot of other companies and for whatever reason, at least tries to care about doing the right thing in this case. That is neither a case for sainthood nor demonization.

    1. Re:People seem to have forgotten by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well then, since Apple is now listening to SOME of it's customers, maybe Angela and Johnny can turn their attention away from the bricks and mortar store renovation and fix the bloody iTunes store.

    2. Re:People seem to have forgotten by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

      You want the retail chief and design chief to fix the iTunes Store? iTunes has a LOAD of issues, but the iTunes Store isn't one of them. The App Store is another matter, but neither of the people you named have any say over that. And the guy in charge of it, Phil Schiller, has actually made some nice changes recently, such as knocking review time down from a week or two to two days.

    3. Re:People seem to have forgotten by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      Wow, someone's been drinking the kool-aid. They kept the fountain because their main markets are hipsters and older people who care about that. They are heavily reliant on the Reality Distortion Field, which is what this new store is designed to boost, for sales. Think about it, they are turning it into Starbucks, a place where people hang out with the MacBooks writing novels and using Facetime, because that's what hipsters and older people respond to.

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    4. Re:People seem to have forgotten by wickerprints · · Score: 1

      Thanks for proving my point.

    5. Re:People seem to have forgotten by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Upsetting the "community" has a cost. The beancounters made a best guess as to what that was, talked to marketing and sales, and they figured the cost of razing the fountain was greater than the cost of leaving it there. No good will here--just business as usual.

  14. "What they do to workers" by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You mean being the best employer in China to work for, by a large margin, because workers are treated better and get bonuses?

    It should be said, that is entirely unlike the sweatshop box YOU are typing on, Apple Hater.

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    1. Re:"What they do to workers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Working in the Apple store? Might be good there, but certainly not the best. Working at whatever company happens to manufacture Apple crap? From suicidal workers to toxic chemicals to unpaid overtime, Apple's hardware line is a trail of misery. His holiness Steve Jobs is dead; maybe it's time you stepped out of the reality distortion field.

    2. Re:"What they do to workers" by lucm · · Score: 1

      That Chinese company really care about the employees, they even offer them a safety net in case they experience psychological distress!

      That even beats the Nike production line in Vietnam where women were provided with athletic trainng opportunities, running around the factory in the pleasant summer days.

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    3. Re:"What they do to workers" by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Best? Not even close. I don't know how much you've been to China (if ever), but as someone who lived there for 6 years and still spends 40% of my year there, I can tell you that Hon Hai is FAR from the best. And I've been at the Longhua and Zhengzhou facilities. They still have 25% annual turnover, wages BARELY (like 10%) exceed minimum wage rates for each city, and overall bonuses are a pittance - and are composed mainly of overtime pay.

      You want a good factory with low turnover, look at a place like Tianle, or V-Tech, or GGEC, or any thousands of smaller businesses where annual turnover is less than 10%, wages are 2-3 times that of minimum wage - and employees are very happy. Hon Hai is far, far from the best place to work. It's nowhere near the worst, but at best it's a solid "B-" employer. And that's based upon the easiest number to track - employee turnover. How many people leave and go work elsewhere, every year.

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  15. Open 24/7? by superdude72 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm not sure what the point is, staying open 24/7 near Union Square. It's very busy during the day, but most of the late-night activity takes place in other parts of town. Is the market so saturated that their next target demographic is homeless people?

    1. Re:Open 24/7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect that at some point the effort required to close down and re-open a store of a certain size means that it's easier to just hire someone to be there all the time.

  16. Re:Ooh boy! by lucm · · Score: 0

    If you want to protect children from perverts, you should keep them away from GOP politicians and religious leaders.

    Totally agree. On the other hand, if you want to protect them from serial killers and mass murderers it's best to keep them away from Democrats (like John Wayne Gacy, or the Ft Hood shooter, or the Virginia Tech shooter, or the Batman movie shooter, or the Washington Navy yard shooter, or the Tucson shooter, or the Connecticut school shooter). Honorable mentions to he Democrats who killed MLK, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, John Lennon and Malcolm X.

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  17. Late to the party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    May 19th press release. I guess this is news for nerds, better late than never...

    1. Re:Late to the party by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Unless this is May 19th 2015, which would make it "on time" for /. standards, I have no idea what that story is doing here already.

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  18. Re:Is it REALLY Next Generation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Forget the android, where's the Picard?! It is NOT TNG without the Picard!

  19. The products are the same by Streetlight · · Score: 2

    Changing the clothes doesn't change the person wearing the clothes. The products sold in the stores are the same now as they were before the stores were remade or available on the web.

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  20. Please open Customer Service Centers by myid · · Score: 2

    Changing the genius bar to a genius grove, opening a plaza - it sounds like Apple is trying to make enough room in their retail stores. That's good. But here's another idea for making room in Apple stores:

    I wish Apple would open Customer Service Centers (CSC). A CSC would take care of non-sales jobs, like genius bars, repairs, and workshops. Apple stores still would do these functions, but customers would have the added option of going to a CSC instead of to a store.

    Because a CSC would not do any sales, it should not be in a mall. The CSC should be in an area that's easy to drive to, with plenty of empty parking stalls near the CSC. (The Apple retail stores that I go to are in malls, and the parking spots near the stores are usually taken. If I have to take my iMac to an Apple store for repair, and if I have to park far away from the mall entrance, then it's hard to carry the iMac to the store.) Also the CSC should be large enough to have plenty of room in it for its customers.

    If most Apple customers went to CSCs for repairs and genius bars, instead of going to retail stores, then that would help in several ways:

    * Apple retail stores would be less crowded, and the sales staff would have more time to attend to the customers. (In the Apple stores that I go to, there are lots of employees and customers, and the people are crammed like sardines. Most store owners would love to have the problem of their stores being crowded with "too many customers", but the crowding makes it hard for me to ask questions and try out their computers.)

    * It would be less crowded and stressful for the Apple employees and customers in a CSC. Customers in the CSC would be able to walk into the CSC, talk with a genius, pick up a repaired computer or whatever, and walk out.

    * Since CSCs would not be in shopping malls, Apple could choose from plenty of options on where to put them. So Apple would be able to open CSCs in areas with empty parking stalls nearby.

    * If Apple opened lots of CSCs, then customers who lived near a CSC but not near an Apple retail store would have a nearby place to go, for genius bars and repairs. (The nearest Apple store is 30 miles away? That's ok - a CSC is just 5 miles away.)

    1. Re:Please open Customer Service Centers by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But it'd also harm impulse purchases. Right now when someone needs CSC services they have to also look at all the cool new iStuff. That's taking lots of people who already have at least one Apple product and giving them a presentation on more Apple products they could buy right there. Go in to fix your Mac - leave with a fixed Mac and an iPad to go with it.

    2. Re:Please open Customer Service Centers by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Non.... sales? There is such a thing?

      Ok, who left the door open? I told you time and again, if you leave doors open techs will come into the marketing meetings and ruin everything with their non-profitable ideas!

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    3. Re:Please open Customer Service Centers by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Because a CSC would not do any sales

      Oh lol!

    4. Re:Please open Customer Service Centers by twokay · · Score: 1

      And from the looks of the redesigned locations, they are more of an art gallery to consumerism with a gift shop thrown in (along with typical gift shop mark up). I'm surprised they even allow soiled devices back within the store limits.

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  22. Re:Ooh boy! by Opportunist · · Score: 0

    Society is going to hell when someone shits into the wrong bowl?

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  23. Re:Ooh boy! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Oh please, everyone knows straight males don't need protection. At least if they're white. If they're black, then at best they can hope for protection from white males. Who gets protected from whom when a white female meets a black guy depends on the main agenda of the one yelling at you, at least that's my current understanding.

    So far I haven't fully figured out the protection totem pole. All I know is that on the bottom there's the white, straight, protestant guy and on top is the genderunspecified panreligious asexual person of nonspecific racial heritage. The between is kinda a gray area, but what I could tell so far is that the more special a snowflake you are the more protection you deserve.

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  24. More important by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Does it come with Safe Spaces? And I sure hope the special snowflakes do not have to walk across the whole building with all those horrible people in there to get there.

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  25. Re:Somebody open your mouth!!! by Opportunist · · Score: 0

    I'll fetch you an Apple Genius, hold on!

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  26. Re:Ooh boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Calling bullshit on that. Having cleaned hundreds of public washrooms such as those in stores and malls... women's bathrooms are absolutely filthy and disgusting compared to men's bathrooms. Shockingly so. it takes much longer to clean a women's bathroom than men's. Though I suspect much of this is due to children. Kids are messy.

  27. Re:Ooh boy! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I've read enough of their columns to understand it. I don't agree, but I can understand it well enough to explain it.

    A lot of the opposition is based in the basic 'icky' element, but the more rigorous justifications turn to natural law. The concept that there is a 'rightness' ordained to society. Some see this order as divine, a plan by God himself, others as simply a part of human nature which cannot be opposed without creating conflict and chaos. This natural law says how things should be. Among other things it says that men and women are not the same and cannot be treated the same, because trying to treat men as women or vice versa denies their different nature and the roles created for them. Men were created to work and to fight, women to care for the children. Boys seek out the toy guns and policeman uniforms and dream of becoming an astronaut, while girls seek the dolls and nurse uniforms because that is how they are created. Men and women partner up and raise a family because that is the natural order - the way things should be.

    Then along comes this new-fangled equality thing, and all hell breaks loose. Men in relationships with men? That violates the natural order, and down that path lies madness. Letting boys play with dolls? You are trying to make them into something that goes against what boys are. Women in the military? But that is not where women belong! Their role has always been in the home, and now you are trying to put the square female peg into the round male hole of warfare. And then to acknowledge these 'trans' people is a step beyond that, because it destroys the very distinction of male and female that is central to society. It denies nature itsself. If men can be women then black can be white and north can be south and truth becomes meaningless.

    There's a huge glaring hole in all this, though: It's bullshit. There is no natural moral law, or natural lawbook, or any objective measure of how things should be - only how they are, and how they came to be. Every shift in society has been blocked by those who claimed it violated the natural law - the abolishment of slavery, the end of segregation, interracial marriage, the introduction of contraception, universal education. I expect ten thousand years ago there were hunter-gatherers refusing to plant the first crops because it seemed unnatural. Certainly there were those more recently who said it was in the nature of some races to rule and others to serve, and that was as it should be. Every time people have looked at the status quo and declared 'it has always been thus, it is natural that it be thus, and so any change would be in violation of what is natural.' Because natural law does not exist - all it can do is reflect the beliefs of the person who invokes it, and allow them to claim natural or even divine backing for whatever views they wish to defend.

  28. Apple is drowning in their own reality distortion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This type of stuff is such bullshit. Apple wants everyone in the store selling at all times. So if this is a community space, it's about meeting with their underpaid college / drop out employees and getting sold something while you think you are just hanging out. And their employees are not SMEs or customer service wizards. They offer nothing to the apple experience unless you are a parent who can't get in touch with with their kid to help reset a password on an iCloud account.

    I used to respect Apple more when they were honest about it. They are stores and you are there to buy something. The experience crap is so dillusional.

  29. Re:Ooh boy! by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    Or maybe gender neutral? Never understood why single occupancy bathrooms even need a gender assignation?

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  30. Re:Ooh boy! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    If you want to protect children from perverts, you should keep them away from GOP politicians and religious leaders.

    Totally agree. On the other hand, if you want to protect them from serial killers and mass murderers it's best to keep them away from Democrats (like John Wayne Gacy, or the Ft Hood shooter, or the Virginia Tech shooter, or the Batman movie shooter, or the Washington Navy yard shooter, or the Tucson shooter, or the Connecticut school shooter). Honorable mentions to he Democrats who killed MLK, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, John Lennon and Malcolm X.

    Atheists FTW! :-)

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  31. Re:Ooh boy! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 0

    Don't know where you got your "information" from, but there's no need to "keep having it cut open again when it inevitable heals up."

    As for dilating, a hard man is good to find.

    My body, my choice - that's not some "special rights." Women have been saying it for decades. Get with the times.

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  32. Re:Ooh boy! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 0

    By the way - two points:

    ONE: Psychiatrists don't classify it as a mental illness, so who should people believe, professional specialists or some random coward on the net with zero credibility and zero studies to back them up? Gee, that's a hard one ...

    TWO: If it is a mental illness, do you always go around berating the mentally ill? How sick are you? Why would you deprive someone that you claim has a mental illness from receiving a treatment that is 98% successful? (which is higher than the success rate for any mental illness, btw)
    Do you also kick guide dogs? Push people in wheel chairs down stairwells? Make fun of people who stutter or lisp?

    THREE: The majority want us to have the same rights as others. It's just the sex-obsessed right-wing bible thumpers and their political cronies who are so interested in what's in (or not in) other people's panties. They need to learn that hot, sweaty, dirty sex is good sex.

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    "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
  33. Hanging out in SFO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So long as you have money and an address, stay as long you'd like!

  34. So, Gateway Store version 3? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's all the Apple stores are. Gateway stores, but without the cow motif.

  35. Re:Ooh boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ONE: Psychiatrists don't classify it as a mental illness, so who should people believe, professional specialists or some random coward on the net with zero credibility and zero studies to back them up? Gee, that's a hard one ...

    Uh, yeah they do. DSM V classifies it as "gender dysphoria disorder." It's still a mental disease, no matter what the crazed PC crowd wants to believe.

  36. Re:Ooh boy! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    ONE: Psychiatrists don't classify it as a mental illness, so who should people believe, professional specialists or some random coward on the net with zero credibility and zero studies to back them up? Gee, that's a hard one ...

    Uh, yeah they do. DSM V classifies it as "gender dysphoria disorder." It's still a mental disease, no matter what the crazed PC crowd wants to believe.

    No matter how you want to lie, there is no "disorder" in "gender dysphoria. Transsexualism itself is also no longer regarded as a mental disorder. So like I wrote, who should I believe - some asshole on the internet or professionals?

    Also, you failed completely to ignore my point about "so what if it's a mental disorder?" Here it is again, an ugly consequence to your attitude:

    TWO: If it is a mental illness, do you always go around berating the mentally ill? How sick are you? Why would you deprive someone that you claim has a mental illness from receiving a treatment that is 98% successful? (which is higher than the success rate for any mental illness, btw) Do you also kick guide dogs? Push people in wheel chairs down stairwells? Make fun of people who stutter or lisp?"

    Admit it - you're just a misogynistic bully who hides behind anonymity.

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    "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
  37. Re:Ooh boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No matter how you want to lie, there is no "disorder" in "gender dysphoria. Transsexualism itself is also no longer regarded as a mental disorder. So like I wrote, who should I believe - some asshole on the internet or professionals?

    Uh, no. The DSM V fell prey to the call of PC-ism and removed a lot of "triggering speech" to try and make people with mental disorders - such as trannies and austists - feel better about themselves. But it's still a disorder or it wouldn't be in there.

    Also, you failed completely to ignore my point about "so what if it's a mental disorder?" Here it is again, an ugly consequence to your attitude:

    We used to lobotomize mental patients until we realized that was barbaric. Mutilating people and fucking up their biology with hormones is just as barbaric. As a mental illness, the proper treatment would be to help individuals with gender dysphoria disorder accept the bodies they were born with. Unfortunately, the PC morons currently ruining our country are also ruining mental health treatment by demanding their barbarous treatments be accepted as "medicine." Future generations will look back at us and wonder what the hell was wrong with us.

    You aren't a woman and you never will be. The sooner you accept that and learn to live with the body you were born with, the better off you'll be.

  38. Not actual Business but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This does not sound like an actual business with an actual business plan.

    This sounds like modern day Douche-Marketing.

    Hey you stupid douche, look at the shiny crap in the apple store!

  39. Re:Ooh boy! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

    Moderate down all you want. I don't agree with the views explained above, I just understand them well enough to try to explain how that manner of thinking works.

  40. Re:Ooh boy! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    Give it up already. If the law says I'm a woman, and my birth certificate says I'm a woman, and everyone around me treats me like a woman, who am I to disagree?

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    "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.