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Abrams Says Paramount Will Drop Star Trek/Axenar Lawsuit (gizmodo.com)
An anonymous reader writes:At a fan event Friday for the upcoming Star Trek movie, producer J. J. Abrams said Paramount Pictures' lawsuit against Axanar Productions was "going away." Director Justin Lin had been outraged by the lawsuit against the crowdfunded fan Star Trek film, and when he'd started discussing the situation with Abrams, the two "realized this was not an appropriate way to deal with the fans. The fans should be celebrating this thing. Fans of Star Trek are part of this world. So he went to the studio and pushed them to stop this lawsuit and now, within the next few weeks, it will be announced this is going away, and that fans would be able to continue working on their project."
In a statement, Axanar said they still "want to make sure we go through all the proper steps to make sure all matters are settled with CBS and Paramount..." adding "There is still a lot of work to do, but receiving this kind of public support helps immensely."
In a statement, Axanar said they still "want to make sure we go through all the proper steps to make sure all matters are settled with CBS and Paramount..." adding "There is still a lot of work to do, but receiving this kind of public support helps immensely."
Let's wait and see.... I am slightly optimistic and a tiny bit relieved... Unfortunately, even if it's true, it doesn't mean the "full" version is going to get made.
But we're talking about companies that allowed film rights to go to one, and tv rights to another.... For the same franchise that had been under the same roof for 30+ years.... Sanity is not the first word I'd use for either of them.
I had a sucky sig.
I can understand why Paramount and CBS are nervous about Axanar. Having seen the trailers for "Star Trek: Beyond" and the short "Prelude To Axanar", I think that Axanar is going to be a hell of a lot better than Beyond. And Axanar looks like Trek. Beyond looks more like "Star Trek: Fast and Furious In Spaaaaace!!!!"
I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
The company is Axanar Productions: http://www.axanarproductions.c...
The movie is Prelude to Axanar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
There's no "e" in Axanar, unless the E is for the missing slashdot editor who approved it without bothering to read.
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No suey suey.
The lawsuit isn't dropped, until the lawsuit is dropped. A director and a producer are saying the lawsuit is dropped because of their "outrage", but the fact of the matter is they really have no control over the lawsuit. Sounds like they are just trying to get the fans on their side and if the big corps don't do what they want then "they're the bad guys" while "we're the good guys". But the big corps are used to being the bad guys, so really no telling if this will work. I also don't really believe J.J. Abrams on caring about star trek. In a interview he gave after the first star trek movie (he was involved with), he admitted to never liking star trek growing up and not having any interest in it, which makes sense given the inaccuracies in the new star trek movies.
It looks bad, straight off the get go. Jar Jar A can not afford any worse of a reputation with sci fi fans, his dumbed down (for us not for him, I really think he is doing the smartest possible off which he is capable) content, is really annoying those for whom the science and story is the most important part of science fiction and not empty action scenes which suit the cheetos crowd. The star trek series teaser is pretty bad, wrong music, really wrong voice for the narrator, all cheetos action and no science, all indicates Saturday afternoon cartoon fare shown on a week night. The law suit was doing even more damage and reality is that content in the fan made pick is more science and story and does not really compete with Jar Jar's which is targeted at a completely different audience, all science 'from the gut' action and you just know they will being tossing more Christianity into star trek to appeal to their target audience.
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But, Abrams like money and favorable publicity. So, this probably will happen or he'll look like a fool.
It's a core element of IP law that a company that holds trademarks must defend those trademarks. Failure to do so becomes legal evidence against the validity of the exclusive use of those trademarks and can lead to their loss.
As a result, a company like Paramount, with a valid trademark on a valuable property like the Star Trek franchise has no choice but to sue people who try to use the name, characters, etc in any other commercial endeavor. If they fail to sue, then eventually Fox, Sony, and the rest could all start making Star Trek flicks and merchandise.
If Paramount does indeed stop this current lawsuit, it will probably not be a simple dropping of the suit but rather some sort of licensing agreement (a legal document) that costs the fans little or nothing but has them acknowledge that Paramount is the legal owner of the IP. Paramount is not some big nasty bad guy here, they have a responsibility to their shareholders to defend the value of the company's assets and are in a position where that, by law, requires them to sue. Had the fan film people kept a lower profile, Paramount probably could have credibly ignored them and said to the court in some future IP case "we were aware of THIS one but not that other one". This case however simply became too big for the corporate lawyers to ignore.
You just nailed the entire reason for the lawsuit.
Everyone knows the property is being trashed.
No Trek fans are genuinely excited about Beyond. It looks like gatbage.
And here comes a fan film that cost next to nothing and it's actually awesome. It's true Star Trek to its core. No cheesy stunts. No action heroes. No "genius" twenty-somethings who look like models. No stupid banter in the face of imminent death.
Just narrative and character.
Paramount should be scared. They hired a formulaic hack to repackage Star Trek for the action-movie crowd and it's wearing thin on the fans.
If Paramount/CBS were smart they make a deal with these guys, throw some money at it and syndicate it. I don't know why Paramount/CBS hold so tightly to this franchise. They should take a page of Disney's handbook and give us fans multiple movies and shows.
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Whereas I've been a harsh critic of his Star Trek-flavored (which is like saying something is 'chocolate flavored', but not containing any actual chocolate) movies, but have greatly enjoyed his various television series (which makes for some internal conflicts for me), I now have a little more respect for the man that he'd stick his neck out for this. Now, if only Paramount will heed his words and let the whole thing drop for real..
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
It looks bad, straight off the get go. Jar Jar A can not afford any worse of a reputation with sci fi fans, his dumbed down (for us not for him, I really think he is doing the smartest possible off which he is capable) content, is really annoying those for whom the science and story is the most important part of science fiction and not empty action scenes which suit the cheetos crowd. The star trek series teaser is pretty bad, wrong music, really wrong voice for the narrator, all cheetos action and no science, all indicates Saturday afternoon cartoon fare shown on a week night. The law suit was doing even more damage and reality is that content in the fan made pick is more science and story and does not really compete with Jar Jar's which is targeted at a completely different audience, all science 'from the gut' action and you just know they will being tossing more Christianity into star trek to appeal to their target audience.
Science is important? Where is the real science in a jefferies tube or a tachyon beam or dilithium? While I prefer the older stuff to Abrams, he hasn't done terrible with the story. It is fair to good, which is what many of the old shows and movies are with some exceptions (Amok TIme, Wrath of Kahn, City on the Edge of Forever).
And please, tell me where he is shoving Christianity in?
Silence is a state of mime.
And please, tell me where he is shoving Christianity in?
No kidding right. Axe to Grind Alert right there. So sick of these self-loathing, yet strangely, self-entitled chimps who hate themselves and their Daddy and inject that into everything. (And JJ is Jewish by the way.)
Him looking like fool wouldn't be a problem for Paramount or those lawyers..
Where is the real science in a jefferies tube
Wait, seriously? You don't think that spaceships will have crawlways for access to engineering spaces?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I'm trying to figure out this word you used. It sounds like a tightly-knit troupe of fire dancers with a gay demeanor. Am I close?
I doubt they'll shut up any sooner than the rest of us, though. Seriously.
Nice selectivity there. My point was that it is -fiction-, but then again many of the basement dwelling neckbeards and libertarian cuckoos here have a hard time recognizing that fact.
It's not an interesting point for a variety of reasons, perhaps most notably that some (though clearly not all) Trek has been based on the science of its day. Obviously it's a mixture of science and fantasy at "best", but Trek at its best does actually have scientific content.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Except of course, how much did defending themselves for something they'd already gotten permission for eat into their budget to make Axenar?
Jar Jar's take on science is just straight up juvenile, like red matter (seriously the best he can come up with), or the silliness with a weapon sucking up the power of a sun, or a expelled cadet as commander of the fleet flagship, just dumb stuff, written by a child. Jar Jars work just comes off exactly like a Saturday afternoon cartoons, that same rushed science absent feel, all science fantasy and no science fiction (they had an excuse limited budgets, weekly episodes and children with a very limited understanding of science). That how all his work comes off unless he is working with more skilled story tellers, pretty much shows he is doing the best he is capable of, as for that religion bit, the comment was will and not has, yes I expect him to go there as well, sort of the lame simple plot thing to throw in.
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