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Attackers Steal $12.7M In Massive ATM Heist (mainichi.jp)
Within two hours $12.7 million in cash was stolen from 1,400 ATMs located at convenience stores all across Japan, investigators announced Sunday. An anonymous reader quotes a Japanese newspaper:
Police suspect that the cash was withdrawn at ATMs using counterfeit credit cards containing account information leaked from a South African bank. Japanese police will work with South African authorities through the International Criminal Police Organization to look into the major theft, including how credit card information was leaked, the sources said.
Over the two hours attackers withdrew the equivalent of $907 in 14,000 different transactions.
Over the two hours attackers withdrew the equivalent of $907 in 14,000 different transactions.
Over the two hours attackers withdrew the equivalent of $907 in 14,000 different transactions.
Either these were the dumbest criminals out there to steal only $907 a few cents at a time, or at least a word or two are missing from the sentence above.
Clarify your terrible editing
What the hell does that even mean?
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Clarify your terrible reading comprehension:
From TFS:
Over the two hours attackers withdrew the equivalent of $907 in 14,000 different transactions.
$907 x 14,000 = 12,698,000
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
Come on, it's perfectly understandable as $907 * 14,000 transactions. There's pedantry and then there's whining for the sake of whining.
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If you read the article, you'd know that was the maximum withdrawal amount and that likely over a hundred people participated in this "attack".
However, I agree, that editing is confusing.
There is simply know way this happened in this scale over two hours. 14000 transactions across 1400 machines in 2 hours. HOW MANY people required to pull this off, trained, readied and not caught in advance?
Why, are you too stupid to figure it out by yourself?
I'm thinking that it's all done via mule teams
so 1400 machines and 14000 transactions = 10 transactions per machine
each transaction should take start to finish 2.5 minutes so we are looking
about 30 minutes for 10 transactions giving time for who knows what.
From this point, I am guessing 3 machines per person ( 30 min to take and 10 min to next machine )
so... 1400 / 3 = 467 members ( round up slightly for time losses so jump to 500 mules )
I am going to state that in Japan, it's doable, they got the team work.
How to discover the team, reverse engineer all bank searches for atm
machines, bet certain group patterns show up.
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14,000 x $907 = $12.7m So where do you join this gang of 1400 fantastically well coordinated thieves?
Too many people involved for them to get away clean. And I bet they cased out the atms that had no people around first, so they could wear a mask. I give them 2 weeks to enjoy their heist.
$12.7m * 110 JPY/USD / 100000= 139.7
Someone writing the script for Ocean's One Hundred Forty Tokyo Drift
14,000 x $907 = $12.7m So where do you join this gang of 1400 fantastically well coordinated thieves?
$907 is exactly 100,000 Yen, which is the transaction limit.
And they say crime doesn't pay.
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What the hell does that even mean?
It means he is unable to comprehend simple sentences or basic mathematics.
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A team that big wouldn't work.
Just offer anonymity, immunity and a reward > $12,000,000/467.
Only the first to squeal gets the offer.
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Why did they put $12.7M in one massive ATM? come on, that's just stupid! #OnlyReadTheHeadline
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
To be fair, the sentence probably should have contained the word "each".
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
When are these fools going to learn to only deploy massless ATMs? #OnlyReadTheHeadline
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So where do you join this gang of 1400 fantastically well coordinated thieves?
Not sure how much good it'll do you but I suppose you can start here.
And all he knows is a few vague details of his contact and that he will die shortly for squeeling.
It could equally mean $907 / 14000 = 6.5 cents.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Crowd sourcing white collar crime.
I always root for the guys who rob banks and ATMs.
It was in fact a team of "over 100". Japan is Japan.
Interesting juxtaposition of stories on the Slashdot front page today. Guy discovers a vulnerability, tells the police, gets busted, his computers taken, and a 15 month suspended sentence. Guy discovers a vulnerability, goes black hat, steals $12 M in one day.
Kinda hard to miss the incentive system currently in place.
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Even easier with Bitcon.
You could have 3-4 people use 100 cards in a cycle at rural 7-11 (these are at 7-11 stores) ATM's, then go down the street 1 km to another store and do it again.
The amazing thing is there was no algorithm trigger to catch this type of event. Well, after living in Japan for 25 years, it's not so amazing.
20 years ago, I walked through a large HQ/manufacturing facility of a major global company with the president, and when we were in the engineering section, I casually asked an engineer about how they backed up all of their design & production data. He smiled as he showed me the CDR in his desk drawer, thinking I'd be impressed.
I took the cigarette lighter off his desk and lit it under the CDR.
And such was the depth of thought about data security...
Dude, it's the Japanese Mafia, they don't have rat's, they got it down pat to have no issues from everything I've ever read.
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To be fair, the sentence probably should have contained the word "each".
Perhaps, but I think it would be pretty obvious to anyone who thought about it for a moment.
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Surely this would not have happened with Bitcoins.
Oh wait.
Why 907$ times 14 000 and not 900$ times 14 100 or even 1000$ times 12 700? The answer was given above, 907$ is 100 000 yen, which is the withdraw daily limit on an account from an ATM.
Â¥100 is about $0.908
Over the two hours attackers withdrew the equivalent of $907 in 14,000 different transactions.
It should say something like "Over the two hours, attackers withdrew the equivalent of $907 in each of 14,000 different transactions.
As is, it is terribly unclear.
Pick any Yakuza branch. The police won't trouble you but the other branches will.
Oh FFS it was plenty clear to anyone with the cognitive capacity higher than a desk lamp.
Japanese dollars? Seriously? Have you ever heard of currencies that are not dollars? Such as yen?
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ATM heist level asian!
I bet it was done by half that number of people and they did it while playing some dance game.
I suspect that each thief used multiple accounts until each of the ATMs was out of money, then moved to the next one. Perhaps 10 or twenty large withdraws each one might take 10 to 20 minutes. Five to ten minutes to get to the next ATM would give four to eight 'sessions' over two hours, so I'd guess that each one worked 40 to 160 transactions, lets say 100 each for lack of better data. Meaning about 140 crooks for the 'back of napkin estimate', I'm no expert on the Yakuza, but that number seems really 'doable'.
The force that blew the Big Bang continues to accelerate.
I wonder why it did not hit any overdraft limit at the stolen account.
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It's probably not the Yakuza because such actions draw way too much attention.
It's more likely a foreign criminal organization.
Japanese conveniance stores are everywhere in big cities so one person can hit a new conveniance store every few minutes.
So it probably wasn't 1400 people, more likely 100 or so.
Dude, it's the Japanese Mafia, they don't have rat's, they got it down pat to have no issues from everything I've ever read.
Fair enough. Maybe it will encourage the Japanese banks to switch from plaintext card credentials to a secure system of payment.
If you have to analyse it, it's bad journalism.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
BOJ are all fraud
heist not a feature, but bug
more money, hit print
BONUS: the NSA haiku
with privacy dead
and treason instead
exploit the database
It's been brought to my attention .
aren't these haiku's or does Niel Young's rust finally sleep?
Fuck me I share anyway...
They have banks in South Africa? Who knew?
To be fair, the sentence probably should have contained the word "each".
Perhaps, but I think it would be pretty obvious to anyone who thought about it for a moment.
Only if you've read the previous summary "Over the two hours attackers withdrew the equivalent of $907 in 14,000 different transactions." on it's own says exactly that. There are a bunch of ways to say what they meant but that's not one of them.
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My desk lamp sits on the floor, you insensitive clod!!
Is it not then a floor lamp?
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Only if you've read the previous summary "Over the two hours attackers withdrew the equivalent of $907 in 14,000 different transactions."
It was a 5-sentence summary. Who reads the last line without reading the first few sentences?
The last line may have been a little clumsy on its own but if that's all a person can be bothered to read then they deserve to be confused.
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Only if you've read the previous summary "Over the two hours attackers withdrew the equivalent of $907 in 14,000 different transactions."
It was a 5-sentence summary. Who reads the last line without reading the first few sentences?
The last line may have been a little clumsy on its own but if that's all a person can be bothered to read then they deserve to be confused.
That is true. What is also true is that sentence is badly written.
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That is true. What is also true is that sentence is badly written.
Yes, but that's a long way from being incomprehensible, as the original AC seemed to think, with his "Clarify your terrible editing" comment. Believe me, if you're looking for truly terrible editing you can find lots of more egregious examples in many of the other story summaries.
Poorly written? Yes.
Still comprehensible? Yes.
One doesn't make up for the other, but it's not something that'll keep me awake at night.
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How is it possible to withdraw $907 from an ATM every 1.9 seconds?! How is it possible to withdraw anything from an ATM every 1.9 seconds unless there are thousands working together?! Or, was it all done as e-transfers to another account? Something is amiss: facts are missing, or this is another hoax.
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Japan's law system does not have the concept of plea-bargains so there really is no incentive to squeal.