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Elderly Use More Secure Passwords Than Millennials, Says Report (qz.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via Quartz: A report released May 24 by Gigya surveyed 4,000 adults in the U.S. and U.K. and found that 18- to 34-year-olds are more likely to use bad passwords and report their online accounts being compromised. The majority of respondents ages 51 to 69 say they completely steer away from easily cracked passwords like "password," "1234," or birthdays, while two-thirds of those in the 18-to-34 age bracket were caught using those kind of terms. Quartz writes, "The diligence of the older group could help explain why 82% of respondents in this age range did not report having had any of their online accounts compromised in the past year. In contrast, 35% of respondents between 18 and 34 said at least one of their accounts was hacked within the last 12 months, twice the rate of those aged 51 to 69."

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  1. 51 is "elderly"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn.

  2. Age bias much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    51-69 is elderly???? Come on who wrote this.... 75 maybe, 80 even. But 50-60 is not.

    1. Re:Age bias much? by MrKrillls · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm 64. 65 is elderly.

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    2. Re:Age bias much? by MrKrillls · · Score: 4, Insightful
      When I'm 65, 66 will be elderly. And so on...

      More seriously, I've decided elderly is a state of mind. Someone else's mind.

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  3. Number of accounts matters as well by FireballX301 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I strongly suspect that 'millennials' have password protected accounts at far more places online than 51+ people. At that point it doesn't matter how strong your password is, but which shitty service stores your password as unsalted MD5 and lets the intern leave the remote login session active

    1. Re:Number of accounts matters as well by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're looking at it backwards: The elderly have better passwords because the things they do have passwords to are vital to their survival. That is, their online banking, brokerage, pension, insurance company, medicare, social security. And unlike millennials, elderly are keenly aware of how crucial keeping control of their money is to their independence and personal security.

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    2. Re: Number of accounts matters as well by jbmartin6 · · Score: 2

      I don't think you need a password to log in as AC.

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  4. Obvious... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

    The sixty-year old guy's password: "NowIsTheWinterOfOurDiscontent"

    The thirty-year-old guy's password: "trumpsucks" ("trumpsucksbigtime" if you're lucky).

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  5. A few thoughts... by wardrich86 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The older group are probably more likely to have their passwords written down on sticky notes under their keyboards, or stuck to their monitors.

    Furthermore, the percent of hacked accounts would be hard to solve, as many younger folk are likely signed up to way more sites and services using the same password across the board. This would easier intrusion into the more secured sites.

    1. Re:A few thoughts... by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Informative

      > The older group are probably more likely to have their passwords written down on sticky notes under their keyboards, or stuck to their monitors.

      The day malware can lift your keyboard to look, the seniors are going to be in a lot of trouble.

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    2. Re:A few thoughts... by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

      The older group are probably more likely to have their passwords written down on sticky notes under their keyboards, or stuck to their monitors.

      The older group come from a time when we actually had to remember people's phone numbers, without having them all programmed into our cell phone.

      Many of them have also been typing on real keyboards for decades, so it's no big deal to have a 16 character password.

      Need a fairly secure password? Use the address of your best friend from 1970. Or the phone number of your favorite pizza place when you were 12 concatenated with your favorite two toppings. Or a couple of lines from your favorite song ... or poem, or movie quotes.

      If you have good memory, and aren't afraid to type, good passwords are easy.

      Of course, it probably also helps that they likely have something to protect ... and are retired, so aren't working at some company that insists on them changing EVERY LAST PASSWORD every 30 days ... until they get to the point where they're changing it to crap like 'Ih8passwords' and 'FuckYou2' just so they can get their job done.

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  6. Cluelessly Bad Analysis by Fringe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is so much wrong with that as to be comical.

    When do you ever hear about insecure passwords being compromised? That doesn't happen. They get leaked. Constantly. But not guessed, not when they can be leaked or stolen.

    So how does a super-ultra-secure password help?

    And then we have this odd bit of math, that 18% of the >51 age range had compromised accounts, while less than double that, 35%, of the youngest range had. Probably, but unclear because the report requires providing PII, while having four times more accounts. I'd certainly bet that the 18-to-34 age bracket has more than double the account count of the compu-geysers. (I say as someone just squeaking below that bar.)

    Which would imply that, mathematically, insecure passwords are more secure. Go figure.

    1. Re:Cluelessly Bad Analysis by throwaway18 · · Score: 2

      A competently operated website will store hashes of the passwords instead of the passwords themselves.
      If the hashes get leaked then typically two thirds of the passwords will be revealed in the first few minutes of cracking because people mostly use weak passwords, sites use hashing algorithms that arn't slow enough and GPU's can try billions of passwords per second for common algorithms.

      However a good password, such as 14+ random letters and numbers or 5+ random words that don't appear together anywhere in published literature, still won't be revealed from the hash, so it is lower risk to reuse across sites, not zero risk because it could be captured when you log in to a hacked site and due to site storing plaintext passwords.

  7. Millenials are the worst! by kamapuaa · · Score: 2

    Millenials are the worst!

    Also, women, foreigners, minorities, point-haired bosses, liberal arts majors, and really anybody who isn't an old white man with an interest in science/math! They're all the worst!

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    1. Re:Millenials are the worst! by tnk1 · · Score: 2

      As overblown as the term has gotten, we actually haven't all been Millennials. Life was objectively different for those of us who grew up before that period.

      Yes, they do share some of the characteristics that all young people have had, of course, but they have a somewhat different background and priorities.

      As far as trash talking the young, that is both the right and duty of being an elder. Now, get off my lawn.

  8. pwgen -y by bigtreeman · · Score: 2

    I'm nearly 60, s'pose that makes me nearly elderly.
    I pick my passwords using
    pwgen -y
    and select from a screen full of 'memorable' passwords

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  9. In other words... by skam240 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...old people are on average more responsible than young people! Groundbreaking research!

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  10. Re:There's a time and place for secure passwords by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 3, Interesting

    but it's still not something anyone is gonna spend any time cracking
    The misconception is that people think you can 'crack a password'.
    You can't.
    If you try to log on on any system and fail several times it shuts you out.
    So, cracking a password is only possible if the password is stored on a system, likely hashed or encrypted, and leaks. If your system is leaking password files, then you have much bigger issues than weak passwords.
    See the linkedin disaster.

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  11. No mystery... by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...we know more words.

  12. When I write my passwords down... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My password "cheat sheet" purposely has typos in them, and don't explicitly say what they go to.

    My memory is good enough to know them by heart most of the time, but for some seldom used ones, just looking at my notes is enough to remind ME. I wouldn't want to have someone take my crib notes, but the casual burglar isn't likely to be sober long enough or be patient enough to try and figure out my mess-o-letters.

    (oh, and it is in an encrypted .docx file, not printed on paper.)

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  13. Impenetrable by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm elderly and my password is so strong that I forget it in 2009 and haven't been able to log in to anything since.

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  14. Re:Obviously ... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2

    Alas, sometimes you can't re-use (or even use logical variations) due to the retarded disparity in password policies (required characters for some sites are forbidden on others...).

    The worst are the sites that make you have such a complicated password there is no way you can remember it.

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  15. Elderly? by markdavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >"Elderly Use More Secure Passwords Than Millennials[...]The majority of respondents ages 51 to 69 say they completely steer away from easily cracked passwords"

    Under what/whose definition is a 51-year-old "elderly"??? Was this title written by a 20-year-old or something? Even 60 is hardly "elderly". And why are there only two groups- 18-34 and 51-69? They are not equal spans? What happened to 35-50?

    Yeesh

  16. I do IT services in a retirement community by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    Chrono-Americans use better passwords because unlike the young, they write everything down. A user who never takes her laptop to Starbucks or to work is okay with setting up difficult passwords and then referring to a list in the silverware drawer when her grandchildren need to connect to the WiFi.