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State Dept. IT Staff Told To Keep Quiet About Clinton's Server (computerworld.com)

dcblogs writes this report from Computerworld: Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's decision to use a private email server ran afoul of the government's IT security and record retention requirements, according to a report by the department's inspector general released today. This use of a private email server did not go unnoticed within the Department of State's IT department. Two IT staff members who raised concerns about Clinton's use of a private server were told not to speak of it. Clinton was secretary of state from 2009 to 2013 and during that period she used a private email server in her New York home. This report by the Department of State's Inspector General about Clinton's use of a private server makes clear that rules and regulations were not followed. It says that Clinton would not have received approval for this server had she sought it. According to the current CIO, the report said, "Secretary Clinton had an obligation to discuss using her personal email account to conduct official business with their offices, who in turn would have attempted to provide her with approved and secured means that met her business needs." However, the report notes, according to these officials, The Bureau of Diplomatic Security and IRM (Bureau of Information Resource Management) "did not -- and would not -- approve her exclusive reliance on a personal email account to conduct Department business, because of the restrictions in the FAM [Foreign Affairs Manual] and the security risks in doing so."

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  1. Litmus test / Logic test by s.petry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If nothing on Hillary's server was classified it should be released without redaction for full review and inspection by any party. That has not happened, and it won't happen. FOI requests regarding information on her server are denied almost as soon as they are filed.

    There is no "truth" left in Government. The only option they have is to silence critics. Oh, and more circuses.

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  2. Silly Rabbit.... by DidgetMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rules and laws are for little people. Not for anyone named Clinton.

  3. Re:And they knew it was hacked since at least 2011 by Kobun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the many things that points to how "Rules-for-thee, Not-for-me" this still is:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Specifically: "In recent media interviews, Lazar claimed he had easily hacked into Clinton’s controversial private email server. But the Justice Department statement did not confirm this claim, and a law enforcement official said investigators did not find evidence to support the claim."

    They're trying to pass this off as nothing bad happened, so it's no big deal. Except she wiped the server before turning it over - OF COURSE they aren't going to find evidence of hacking now, after the evidence has been destroyed.

  4. HRC's judgement sucks by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Never mind 30 years of scandals, this email server thing shows exactly how she thinks. The law only applies to the little people, not her. What she did may have been marginally legal, but if you or I had done this we'd be sitting in jail.

    1. Re:HRC's judgement sucks by Oloryn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This idea from a Clinton who could not handle having two "high-tech" phones?

      In the midst of all the back-and-forth on the particular brou-ha-ha, this is the thing that's been deciding for me. By her own admission, she prioritized her own convenience over the law and the security of the nation. That's not the kind of person I want in control of the 'football'.

  5. Laws are only for the little people silly! by Brian_Ellenberger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The depressing part of all of this is that it is obvious she is guilty, but it really doesn't matter. The politically powerful, whether the Goldman Sachs or the Clintons, will always be able to get away with whatever they want. Meanwhile our prison population is overflowing with "little people" who lack the political connections necessary to be free of the ire of the Federal government. Host an illegal mail server that is easily hacked. No big deal. Actually blow the whistle on Federal crimes and corruption. To prison with you!

    1. Re:Laws are only for the little people silly! by suupaabaka · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It disturbs me that the United States has for-profit prisons, and impose harsh penalties on crimes that would (in many other countreis) be considered quite minor. And from what I understand, other countries are trying to emulate this model?

      Prisons in the US seem to turn idiot kids into hardened criminals. The Scandinavian model of rehabilitation over punishment seems a far better solution.

  6. Re:top security by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those IBM System/1 are far more reliable than any crap that can be purchased today. Plus I bet they are radiation hardened.

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  7. Re:top security by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and, those old ibm machines will never run ruby or php or visual basic.

    you know, lets keep them around a bit longer, ok?

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  8. Re:top security by harrkev · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And while conservative fucktards all over the US get their panties in a knot over this nonsense, look what they ignore

    Yeah, conservative "fucktards" worry about things more important. How is an obsolete non-networked computer a security hole? Even if an attacker managed to steal one of these floppies, how would he read it? When was the last time that you saw an 8" floppy drive?

    Obsolete? Yes. Security hole? No.

    You want Clinton in charge of our nuclear launch codes?

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  9. Re:But everyone else was doing it? by DaHat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just absurd.

    You were reading Salon... that's your first mistake.

  10. Re: US CIO "everyone is doing it" by BoRegardless · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Everyone" was not using their political office to use the subterfuge of giving speeches to foreign government and multi-nationals to enrich themselves personally in their non-profit foundation.

    Most of the press and public are not seeing the huge Clinton Corruption Campaign they conducted using Hillary's private email server. But the DOJ and others are now going through those emails with a fine toothed comb.

    Hillary may not get jail for a personal server, but she may get jail time for selling out the US with "special favors" in her decisions for foreign entitities from which she received "donations" in the form of both speech fees and contributions to the Clinton foundation.

    It is truly mind boggling that she & Bill thought they could get away with this.

  11. Re:top security by jcr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What if I told you that Hillary's thousands of felonies aren't excused by citing examples of other government fuck-ups?

    -jcr

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  12. Re:top security by DRMShill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have to say the way the news covers this seems a little odd. They phrase it as though this is a problem because I guess hackers could break into this and steal government secrets. It seems to me that the greater concern is that by hiding and then destroying government records it makes her that much more unaccountable to the people.

  13. Re:top security by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You want Trump in charge of our nuclear launch codes?

    FTFY - Oh, hell no!

  14. Looking fo new IT jobs if Hill wins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They's gonna be a buncha nervous IT guys in the gov if the Hillary wins. Paraphrasing Tony Soprano, revenge is like serving cold cuts.

  15. Re:Ugh.. by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's nothing inherently "left" or "right" about fascism, especially not within the US today, where both sides are firmly committed to it's ideals (the control of both industry and government by the same select group)

    More to the point, Hitler isn't regarded as a monster because he was fascist. He's regarded as a monster because he was a democratically elected leader who built a power base on racism and twisted nationalism, and then used that power to commit some of the worst atrocities ever seen in the "civilized" world against his chosen scapegoats.

    THOSE are the parallels I fear with Trump - his understated demonization of Muslims, Mexicans, Chinese, etc. as scapegoats, and the open bigotry and violence he's already inspiring just by running for office.

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  16. Re:Ugh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    > Fascism is about the consolidation of power, pure and simple

    Yes, and they did that because they knew what was good for everyone. They forcefully robbed the 1% of their day (Jews) who were the bankers and moneylenders they blamed for their poverty. They worked hard to "improve" society by going after the least popular people of their day.

    It's literally no different today where some groups want the government to control everything for our own good and to just gang up on anyone who dares say that might a bad thing to allow.

  17. Re:That confirms there is no case against Hillary by DaHat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    God I love left wing projection, it must be nice being able to blame all of your problems on the other side without a moment of self reflection or awareness.

    The usual right wing lies

    A lie requires me to know that what I am saying is false... care to support that claim?

    No? You lament a lack of facts from me (despite me highlighting just one law she can be convicted under)... but offer nothing yourself... this is my shocked face: :|

    no proof of course

    If you bothered to pay attention to the available facts and use your brain (I'm sure you have one, it's just atrophied a bit from lack of use), allow me to educate you:

    1) True or false: Hillary is known to have had at least one spy satellite photo on her server which should have been labeled "TOP SECRET//SI//TK//NOFORN", a image which did not originate with the State Department so the original classification would apply.

    2) True or false: Hillary's private email server was authorized by the State Department or another federal agency to store classified information.

    3) True or false: Hillary is known to have been briefed on her requirements to properly handle classified information and signed a document confirming her acceptance of policies, including criminal penalties for violations.

    Answer Key:
    1) True: http://www.thedailybeast.com/a...
    2) False: https://www.washingtonpost.com...
    3) True: http://freebeacon.com/politics...

    Given the law I cited above doesn't require 'malice' or 'intent', but simply 'gross negligence', it's not at all a stretch to suggest that Hillary was negligent with the setting up of her server that any reasonable person would expect would see classified information traverse it... and given the fact the server was not a 'proper place of custody'... per instance of classified information on her server, she could be looking at a penalty of "Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."

    How much does being a Hillary shill pay? I'm looking for a side job, and unlike you morons, I actually have a grasp of facts.

  18. New titles by johanw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So instead of the barons, dukes and earls from Europe the US has Clintons, Bush and Kennedy's. I get it.

  19. Re:top security by khandom08 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have to say the way the news covers this seems a little odd. They phrase it as though this is a problem because I guess hackers could break into this and steal government secrets. It seems to me that the greater concern is that by hiding and then destroying government records it makes her that much more unaccountable to the people.

    ^^^ A thousand times this. And I was a Hillary supporter until the private server news broke. I am astounded how everyone (even Bernie) discounted its importance. While I agree that there have been many attempts by the republicans to tarnish her image, this is not one of them. This is a major fuckup that should have immediately disqualified her from running.