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Anonymous Hackers Turned Stock Analysts Are Targeting US, Chinese Corporations (softpedia.com)

An anonymous reader writes: A smaller group of Anonymous, called Anonymous Analytics, reached the conclusion that DDoSing is stupid and never fixes anything, so they decided to use their hacking skills and stock market knowledge to make a difference in another way. For the past years, the group has been compiling market reports on U.S. and Chinese companies and publishing their results. Their reports have been noticed by the stock market, who recently started to react to their findings. The most obvious case was of Chinese lottery machine maker REXLot. The hackers discovered that REXLot inflated its revenue and the amount of cash on its balance sheet, based on the amount of interest earned. "The group published its findings on June 24, 2015, and REXLot stock price plummeted from 0.485 Hong Kong dollar per share to 0.12, before trading was suspended [for ten months]. REXLot rejoined the market on April 18, 2016, this year, but even after submitting a 53-page report, the company stock fell again by 50 percent," reports Softpedia. Anonymous Analytics then published two more reports on the company, urging the market to sell, and two days later, Reuters reported that REXLot did not have enough cash to make due bond payments, which meant the company had to sell assets to repay bonds. Other companies on which the group published market reports include Qihoo 360 and Western Union.

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  1. all growed up now by turkeydance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and following the money.

    1. Re:all growed up now by houstonbofh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And being more effective as a result.

    2. Re:all growed up now by bloodhawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is the inherent risk. Their ethical radars are somewhat wonky to say the least, how long before they use the tactic of releasing false information about a company they dislike simply to crash their share price or worse abuse it to make a small fortune themselves. If they stick to the truth fine, but I just don't see them not being tempted to abuse trust.

    3. Re:all growed up now by silentcoder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How is this different from any other analytics group ? Anybody whose opinion can influence stock prices have the exact same incentive risks. Hell you think no politician has ever said something about a law knowing it would drive down a stock price and knowing the law was never going to be passed - just so he could buy some cheap stock and sell it at a profit later when the stock recovered from the scare ?

      Hell - you think any CEO whose company is the target of a major lawsuit and knows they are likely to lose (which he will know before anybody else since he knows if they are really guilty or not) will fail to short the stock and make more than the company is fined for ? Then buy it back at a discount after the fine. Part of why companies tend not to give a fuck about things like health and safety regulations is because actually being sued or charged with violating them have a good chance of making the CEO richer than he was before, it's only the shareholders who lose out and since they can't really prove anything...

      So they may have an incentive to start a false rumor to cash in on - so does anybody else who is in a position where large traders pay attention to what they say. It's a serious problem but it is decidedly not unique to them.

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    4. Re:all growed up now by bloodhawk · · Score: 2

      The difference is if an analytics group make market predictions or announcements with the intention of taking market advantage of the reaction they will end up in a shit ton of trouble with the SEC. Same with a CEO, if he shorts a stock based on insider information he will go to jail. The SEC is not in the least bit lenient on these things

    5. Re: all growed up now by silentcoder · · Score: 2

      They are actually extremele lenient. Regardless of intentions thats the practical reality because insider trading is incredibly difficult to prove or even find enough evidence off to inestigate. If they appear non lenient its only because the only cases that ever happens are the most insanely egregious ones.
      Take the example I used. How do you prove the CEO knew they would lose ? If his lawyer says "nobody could predict the vagaries of a jury and he was just hedging his bets" how exactly can the SEC prove he was expecting to lose beyond a reasonable doubt. Nah you gotta be Enron or Madoff before the SEC will even try.

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  2. well the free market is supposed to function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    with perfect knowledge so the free market capitalists should be happy !

  3. Really? by gueryjones · · Score: 5, Informative

    CPA and former auditor here. I'd be shocked if a publicly traded company was actually able to materially misstate cash. It's one of the easiest balance sheet items to audit, and publicly traded companies are required to be audited. You literally pull the bank statements as of the end of the year. The cash is either there or it isn't. There are a few reconciling items such as deposits in transit or checks that haven't cleared, but it's typically not a lot. I haven't read Anonymous' report, but it doesn't pass the smell test.

    1. Re:Really? by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2

      Maybe things aren't quite so strict in China, if you know the right auditors...

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    2. Re:Really? by gueryjones · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just read the report, and there's no mention of cash anywhere. They do talk about revenue as the summary and articles state, but not the cash. The articles mention that the company did not have enough cash on hand to cover debt payments, but that's a different situation compared to not having the cash they claim on the balance sheet. Both could be true simultaneously, but Anonymous has not made any statement I can see regarding cash. Revenue is another story, and is much easier to misstate if your auditors are not on their toes.

    3. Re:Really? by gueryjones · · Score: 2

      I didn't say that. Read more carefully and don't insert your preconceived notions. I've seen plenty and I know what happens out there. I also know what typically doesn't happen.

    4. Re:Really? by houghi · · Score: 2

      Or when the auditers are there, so is the cash. 3 hour short term loan. That way the auditer sees the money and is happy. When they come van come from higher up.

      I used to work in a hotel many years ago where we knew a day before that an unannounced inspection would take place. The one time they rally came unannounced, they asked me to bring coffee (I was a waiter) and he told me who they were.

      That gave us enough time to send home the illegals who were working in the kitchen and in the house. If we could do it with people in 5 minutes, I am sure they can do it with money as well.

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  4. Travel much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... I'd be shocked if a publicly traded company was actually able to materially misstate cash ...

    I guess you haven't have any exposure to 3rd world stock markets
     
    I have the pleasure of constantly receiving IPO proposals from 3rd world companies, in which, the statements printed on the IPO proposals don't even add up!

    And yet, every single of those 'don't add up' IPO got their 'go ahead' and they are now listed in various 3rd world country stock exchanges

    Suffice to say their performance sux, and their accounting sux even more

  5. I really think they are doing what boiler room by epseps · · Score: 2

    analysts do.

    I really doubt this is a "branch" of anonymous.

  6. Short selling by dcavanaugh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Years ago, I developed a system to analyze stock option prices in real time for the purpose of automated trading. The algorithm was designed to detect overbought and oversold options, and trade ahead of the inevitable market correction.

    Although the system worked, it occasionally lost scary amounts of (simulated) money. It seems that some people traded high volumes against the market, buying into options that were already overbought, selling even when the option was oversold. It seemed as if these traders knew something that everyone else didn't. Sure enough, the company would report something surprising, and the market would move in favor of the people who traded ahead of the news.

    Ultimately, I abandoned the notition of automated options trading, but not before discovering how well the system could detect insider trading. The options market is subject to all sorts of shenanigans, but it's a pretty good advance indicator of the underlying stock. The more insider trading a company has, the better the algorithm works.

    If these Anonymous people are conducting research and detecting public reporting anomalies, the path of maximum profit is to short sell the stock, knowing that the price will fall when the truth finally emerges. Using this method, you instruct your broker to " short sell" 1000 shares of XYZ Corp. The broker "borrows" the shares from someone else's account and sells them. You get the cash and the obligation to return the shares (cover the position) at a some future time. If all goes well, you can keep the position open as long as you like, wait for the stock to fall, and then cover (buy back and return) the borrowed shares at a lower price.

    Looks like the hackers found a few cash cows. Good for them!

    1. Re:Short selling by epseps · · Score: 2

      I did something similar.

      When I would "short" a company I would write it down, and then the price it was and what I would short it at.

      I made a ton of fake money. So then I tried real time and picked a short with a call day and if I invested $100k Fake Money in the shorts and on call day I would see how much I made or how much I owed. In the first exercise with no time limit but just selling myt shorts when it hit the target I think I made something like $220k of Fake Money. When I did a more realistic experiment with a call day I owed $42k on my fake margin calls.

      In other words, Short selling is difficult, even if you know something is over-valued.

      That is why i think these guys are doing classic "Pump and Dump". Giving analysis like I would be able to give on certain stocks and saying they are crap...One hits and makes news and people look at the site and see they advised BUY on a stock or two and it drives up the price and they sell. That is what we are seeing here. I do not believe these guys are Anonymous.

      DMD is already going up in price (their only BUY)

      https://www.google.com/finance...

      Also, as I wrote above, this group is most likely tied with HYIPs in the past and two Malaysian Web Hosting companies, who would be familair with Demand Media's offerings. So this and this story is, in my opinion, a ruse to disguise Pump and Dump.