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Secret Text In Senate Bill Would Give FBI Warrantless Access To Email Records (theintercept.com)
mi quotes a report from The Intercept: A provision snuck into the still-secret text of the Senate's annual intelligence authorization would give the FBI the ability to demand individuals' email data and possibly web-surfing history from their service providers using those beloved 'National Security Letters' -- without a warrant and in complete secrecy. [The spy bill passed the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday, with the provision in it. The lone no vote came from Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., who wrote in a statement that one of the bill's provisions "would allow any FBI field office to demand email records without a court order, a major expansion of federal surveillance powers." If passed, the change would expand the reach of the FBI's already highly controversial national security letters. The FBI is currently allowed to get certain types of information with NSLs -- most commonly, information about the name, address, and call data associated with a phone number or details about a bank account. The FBI's power to issue NSLs is actually derived from the Electronic Communications Privacy Act -- a 1986 law that Congress is currently working to update to incorporate more protections for electronic communications -- not fewer. The House unanimously passed the Email Privacy Act in late April, while the Senate is due to vote on its version this week. "NSLs have a sordid history. They've been abused in a number of ways, including targeting of journalists and use to collect an essentially unbounded amount of information," Andrew Crocker, staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, wrote. One thing that makes them particularly easy to abuse is that recipients of NSLs are subject to a gag order that forbids them from revealing the letters' existence to anyone, much less the public.]
We should all be ashamed. We don't deserve freedom.
Any rider that is unrelated to the title or purpose of a bill should be automatically struck out. Maybe someone should slip this law in as a rider to another bill in order to make the point.
. . . .but J. Random User out there doesn't know of, much less use PGP or Gnu Privacy Guard. . .
And that is more important than the constitution?
Nae king! Nae laird! Nae yurrupiean pressedent! We willna be fooled again!
When did Sanders vote for 'it'? Since the issue in the TFA hasn't been voted on by anyone in full congress yet.
There are two types of people in the world: Those who crave closure
is just a piece of paper if people ignore it.
This is the problem the world seems to be overlooking. The absurd assumption is that we'll willingly give our most personal data away; we've evolved to a bizarro state where we must hand over our content to strangers in order for it to be useful to us. Email is just one example but it's the same across all vectors of your personal data corpus, including social, messaging, video, files, etc., etc., etc.... not to mention the "data exhaust" from your browsing, GPS, and commercial interactions.
The only solution is to organize every person's data according to the PERSON WHO OWNS IT, not sprayed across myriad services, each with its own repository. Those are subject to all sorts of abuse, from corporations, governments, and criminals.
It's time to change the data model to one that empowers human beings, not the institutions that have turned the digital screws on us since the beginning of the Internet. Here's my take on the opportunity:
https://medium.com/@arthurfont...
Does anybody here agree this could work? Or, more appropriately, could it be made to work based on the transformative value it delivers?
My other
A vote against a Libertarian candidate is
a good start. Move to Somalia if thats what you want.
Dear Dipshit:
Before spouting off nonsense and idiocy, please inform yourself on the workings of the Senate, or at least some basic information on which Senators sit on which committees. For example, when you specifically cite Senator Sanders as voting for this bill, you should probably not just make that up as that could be considered to be libel. To refute your absolutely false claim, I present you with the web site for the US Senate Select Committee on Intelligence which prominently features the roster of Senators that sit on that committee, and thus vote to advance a bill for the full Senate to vote on. Please note that Senator Sanders is not among them, and also please note that this bill has not been debated on the Senate floor, much less voted to end debate, much less voted on final passage.
Thank you, go take a god damn civics class, and don't post on anything happening in the Congress again until you do.
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There's no way that this can be constitutional.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
If only there was an organization that was as rabid about upholding the Fourth Amendment as the NRA is about the Second Amendment.
My email provider, fastmail is in Australia so that should make it a little more difficult for them.
All the more reason to switch your e-mail off the Google or any other American host company and over to Ghostmail or Protonmail.
The Swiss are serious about privacy.
He hasn't physically voted for it but mark my words he will. Neither of the two major parties give a fuck about personal liberties and their sheep don't either. All the elected officials need to use worn out tactics such as "War on drugs, poverty, terrorism, racism, etc." and they will support just about anything the Republicrats and Democans put forth. The modding of my first comment clearly shows people are not willing to listen to anything just as long as their favorite carrot is dangled in front of them "Welfare both for the poor and the rich; protection from those evil drug dealers, terrorists, racists, communists, etc." The people are so blinded by their own selfish wants and desires they don''t see they are being used as pawns in a chess match between the two major parties, neither of which give a fuck about the constitution or the liberties granted by the constitution. If they did give a fuck why are they constantly talking about removing liberties rather than protecting them?
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A vote against a Libertarian candidate is
a vote to abolish the Constitution itself
Congress is not empowered by the Constitution to bypass the requirement of a warrant under any circumstance. A member of congress having any part of this bill is treason.
Putting a libertarian in office isn't going to imperil any of those things.
Certainly, there are libertarian crackpots out there. I met one who kept referring to schools as "child prisons", for example. Nearly all of the US government is composed of not-libertarians, though, so all you're doing by voting some in is getting some voices to counterbalance notions like it being OK to read our email without a warrant.
So we have some secrete text in a bill that may be come law that supposedly allows my government to avoid going to a secrete court to get a secrete warrant to spy on me and instead just secretly spy on me. At this point it seems that it should be a perfect acceptable defense to state that one is ignorant of the law as there is so much effort being put into keeping the law from the governed. Hammurabi's code was put up in public so that people would know what the law was, now it is secretes the whole way down.
Time to offend someone
Obviously, you think North Korea is the prime example of good government. Somolia isn't a Libertarian Government, it is Anarchy. However, North Korea is a fine example of unlimited Statism, which is what you seem to support.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
For Complete safety, one must move to North Korea, where the Government dictates everything. And since you are against Liberty, I suggest that is the perfect example of what a world without liberty looks like.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
What you said.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
So, 'voted' past tense is a guarantee by you of future action of someone else who typically doesn't vote for this sort of stuff. And I didn't ask about the R or D actions.
Ohhh Kayyyyy
There are two types of people in the world: Those who crave closure
Since when can Congress bypass a Constitutional amendment with a mere law?
Sorry, teleporters just kill you and then make a copy. A perfect, soul-less copy.
I hear the libertarians are against this kind of things, it's almost as if voting for them is the only way to stop this kind of foul behaviour.
In Capitalist US, the commerce controls the Government.
Maybe, but he has a point. Nowhere has Sanders been involved in this, yet. Will he? No idea. Maybe.
Mind you, I have no intention of supporting Sanders or his platform, but it's not necessary to make shit up about him.
Yeah, except that I didn't vote for Bernie in my primary when I had the opportunity to do so. But don't let little things like facts get in the way of a good anonymous smear.
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It is like the right to bear guns: You will only have it as long as you exercise it.
Indeed. Trouble is, we're running out of bears around here... ;-)
"I love animals! Some are cute, others are tasty, what's not to like?" - Betsy Schroeder, Jeopardy contestant
Thank you, go take a god damn civics class, and don't post on anything happening in the Congress again until you do.
Wait... Things are happening in this Congress? I thought we discussed their inaction before.
Honestly I don't understand how ANYONE can make the case the Hillary is different than Trump other than what "team" she purports to be playing for.
The difference is this: under president Hillary nothing changes at all from what we have now, and under the Donald it's looking very likely to get worse but with a remote possibility that some small things might actually change.
Frankly, I don't know if I can bring myself to vote for either one of them, not even in protest of the other. It's fucking ridiculous, the Republicans are running a "Man of the People" who's a billionaire, and the Democrats are running the one single person in America so hated she could actually lose to him. The system is broken by definition if it's come to this.
Sorry. SOME of the Founding Fathers would be appalled and ashamed. Others would think it was a dandy idea. Check out the Alien and Sedition acts, and when they were passed.
WE are the people who should be appalled and ashamed.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
So many deluded people in our government who don't know the first thing about America.
https://www.youtube.com/c/BrendaEM
We still have things that are at least named both those things, as required courses (at least in some areas)
If we start ignoring all of our constitutional rights because of terrorism, then what are we fighting for at that point?