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Microsoft Will Stop Spamming Android Users With Office Ads In The Notification Tray (betanews.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via BetaNews: The notification tray in Android serves a very specific purpose. There's a clue in the name -- and it's nothing to do with advertising. Android user Thom Holwerda was upset this week when Microsoft Office for Android started to spam him with ads for apps he already had installed. There are many questions here, one of which is why is Microsoft ignoring Google's guidelines and using the notification tray to display ads? Thom, from the website OSnews, found that the copy of Word he had installed on his Nexus 6P was spamming him with ads for Excel and Powerpoint -- which he was already using. Mark Wilson from BetaNews contacted Microsoft and they said, "Our team is actively investigating the occurrences of these notifications." After pressing further into the issue, a Microsoft spokesperson said, "Microsoft is deeply committed to ensuring that we maintain the best possible experience for our customers in addition to complying with all applicable policies. We have taken the action to turn off these notifications. This update will be reflected in the coming days." In other semi-related news, users can now remove the 260-character path length limit in the Windows 10 build 14352.

110 comments

  1. Kindle app. too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The kindle app spams the notification bar too.

    1. Re:Kindle app. too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So does the Amazon Underground app. Another violator is an app called Just 6 Weeks, which started pushing notification bar ads for some game that the developer recently released. This was in the paid version too. I have since removed both. It really looks like the only apps I can trust are F-Droid and stuff that comes from their repository.

      With Microsoft closing in on the adware game with Windows 10, the future of technology is looking pretty bleak. Pretty soon all computers and electronic devices will be littered with ugly, resource hogging ads. They'll have to start making higher resolution screens just to fit the new "advertising bar" that will be present in everything but free open source software.

    2. Re: Kindle app. too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I installed a Notification Blocker app on my Android phone that started spamming my launcher with pop-ups. Full screen ad pages that would occur when I would wake up the phone with the power button.

      They finally went away when I uninstalled the notification blocker.

      I installed the notification blocker because certain Android news apps wouldn't stop reactivating their 'show notifications' check box in the App Manager utility. The Guardian app was one that would do this. I would turn off notifications, then after the next time I ran the app they would be re-enabled.

    3. Re:Kindle app. too. by dpidcoe · · Score: 1

      Yep. I figured it was just a fluke the first time it happened. Uninstalled Kindle immediately after the second occurrence. Sucks for amazon because I consume a ton of ebooks on my phone. I'll continue to manage my own ebook library and manually pull .epubs off my calibre server into aldiko rather than put up with an app that spams the notification bar.

    4. Re:Kindle app. too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the Amazon Kindle app is horrible for spamming the user with constant notifications. Worse, it uses the same audio cue as my SMS, so I'm constantly thinking I have a new message.

  2. Uhoh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Microsoft is deeply committed to ensuring that we maintain the best possible experience for our customers in addition to complying with all applicable policies. "

    Uhoh, so that means they won't quit spamming you in the Notification Center, and clicking the close X will instead take you to the play store page for office.
    Likely they will make sure there are 10-20 chime reminder sounds that will play too whenever the ad spam is onscreen.

    After the next update they will raise he price of their apps and install malware to open the play store and purchase office apps for you again all silently in the background.

    1. Re:Uhoh by msauve · · Score: 1

      Just wait until they start trying to auto-install Win10 on Android phones.

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    2. Re:Uhoh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worst of all worlds: Bog down your bandwidth, max out your data cap and storage, and die on the installation attempt, leaving it stuck in an endless retry loop ("incompatible hardware"), or try to install the Windows Phone version, and brick it at the boot loader level...

  3. apply this lesson to ALL notification trays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    People don't like being spammed with ads in any notification tray. Learn your lesson, Microsoft. This applies to GWX every bit as much as it applies to Office.

    1. Re:apply this lesson to ALL notification trays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kindle for Android.

    2. Re:apply this lesson to ALL notification trays by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      People don't like being spammed with ads in any notification tray. Learn your lesson, Microsoft.

      Sorry to be cynical, but exactly how will Microsoft "learn its lesson" here? That phrase is usually accompanied by a punishment (or at least a threat of one).

      But it's not like Microsoft will actually be "punished" for this. It's not like their sales of MS Office will go down significantly because of this. Microsoft has been selling a bloated office software suite for 20 years, and reasonable free alternatives have been available for at least a decade -- but every time this comes up here, you have a hundred people shouting, "But, but -- everybody else uses MS Office, and the converters screw up the formatting moving between office suites!"

      As long as MS Office has the dominant market share, there's no threat to them, hence they have no reason to "learn their lesson."

      (Oh, and I'm sure this could lead to a typical discussion about how someone is missing function X in LibreOffice or whatever that only Excel does. Yeah, I know. But if corporations spent 1/10th of the money and time resources they spend on MS Office (as well as support and training for new upgrades, etc.) instead helping to improve open-source alternatives, we'd have a much better FREE office suite and MS Office would be dead within a couple years. Instead, we all just keep paying the Microsoft license tax, year after year.)

  4. Some day we'll all look back and laugh at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Some day when our neural implants wake us up at 3am with notifications full of advertising spam, we'll all laugh and pine for the good old days when we could simply ignore the phone and go back to bed. We're already tumbling down the slippery slope. They can pretend to care and apologize all they want, we know the truth.

    1. Re:Some day we'll all look back and laugh at this by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 2

      Some day when our neural implants wake us up at 3am with notifications full of advertising spam, we'll all laugh and pine for the good old days when we could simply ignore the phone and go back to bed. We're already tumbling down the slippery slope. They can pretend to care and apologize all they want, we know the truth.

      I am reminded of this:

      Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?"

      Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.
      - Futurama, A Fishful of Dollars

      As the quote indicates, its probably far too late for us to try and draw a line at dreams -- or neural implants or system-tray notifications -- as the places where advertisements dare not go. We've repeatedly shown the advertisers that they can stick their messages anywhere and we'll roll over quietly.

    2. Re:Some day we'll all look back and laugh at this by Moof123 · · Score: 1

      Ads have gotten so bad that there seems to be a bit of a backlash lately, so there is hope. Ad-blocking has become mainstream, and I find the web to be a nightmare when I am on a device without it.

      We cut the cord more out of frustration with ads than for cost. I'd rather watch old reruns on Netflix and pay the extra $4 a month for the mostly ad-free Hulu option than watch free TV with excessive inundation of ads. Fighting the losing tide against keeping Windows 10 off my home PC is more about fighting the ads they have slipped in than getting spied on by M$.

      Since mostly cutting ads out of our home lives I am doubly repulsed when I am stuck with ones that sneak through. I am really hoping my kid grows up watching only a fraction of the ads I did as a kid.

  5. Microsoft policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft policy #1289: Be a dick until someone complains.
    Microsoft policy #1290: Be a dick even though someone complains.
    Microsoft policy #1291: Be a dick even though people are screaming in pain. Please let me turn off automatic updates and telemetry! Ahhhh! Why god, WHY?!

    1. Re:Microsoft policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you really think you need telemetry off because "OMG, they're spying on my secrets" (which by the way has been shown to be false), then just set a firewall rule to block the endpoints for their telemetry. They do document them.

    2. Re:Microsoft policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you really think you need telemetry off because "OMG, they're spying on my secrets" (which by the way has been shown to be false), then just set a firewall rule to block the endpoints for their telemetry. They do document them.

      There needs to be an official way from Microsoft. I am aware of the workarounds. There is no need to be condescending.

    3. Re:Microsoft policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "OMG, they're spying on my secrets" (which by the way has been shown to be false)

      Where was this shown to be false? The packets phoning home from Windows 10 are encrypted. No one but Microsoft can definitively say what they contain, and my trust for Microsoft has evaporated lately.

    4. Re: Microsoft policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You trusted them?

    5. Re:Microsoft policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you really think you need telemetry off because "OMG, they're spying on my secrets" (which by the way has been shown to be false)

      So which is it? First you admit that they spy on users and then you say they aren't collecting personal data from users.

      just set a firewall rule to block the endpoints for their telemetry

      Microsoft controls Windows 10 and any Windows 7/8 systems that have their backported malware on it. Any firewall rules you set in regard to blocking Microsoft can and will be promptly ignored and/or reverted. If you block at the router, then your system is only protected while connected to that specific router.

      They do document them.

      I'm sure they do and then some.

    6. Re: Microsoft policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never completely trusted Microsoft, but I trusted them more before that douchebag Nadella came to power.

      Even *Steve Ballmer* was more trustworthy. He'd have at least released Windows 9, sans spyware and adware, slapped a $100-$200 pricetag on it and called it a day.

    7. Re:Microsoft policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if this is try, they can easily push a "patch" to your machine to change the behavior.

    8. Re:Microsoft policy by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Microsoft policy #1292: If the media starts reporting on Microsoft being a dick, apologize and claim that we're improving the user experience.
      Microsoft policy #1293: Blame the user.

    9. Re:Microsoft policy by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Of course he's condescending. He's from Microsoft and following police #1290.

    10. Re: Microsoft policy by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Enemies that throw chairs at you are easy to deal with; dodge the chair, speak in slow quiet tones when he's nearby. Enemies that seek to undermine you are more difficult, you need to be on constant vigilance.

    11. Re:Microsoft policy by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      If you block the telemetry by using your hosts file, it won't always work because some of this software ignores the hosts file and uses hardcoded addresses. You need an external firewall to block them, and remain vigilant to changing addresses. This is not something easy for the normal user.

    12. Re:Microsoft policy by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      It only works if you do it at the router level. Windows ignores it own firewall when it comes to telemetry. Good luck preventing it when you are using a wifi hotspot.

    13. Re:Microsoft policy by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Microsoft policy #1293: Blame the user.

      Isn't that one from the Apple playbook? You're holding it wrong.

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    14. Re:Microsoft policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you are. After I read these blunders of yours against apk I was convinced https://slashdot.org/comments.... , https://slashdot.org/comments.... + http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

  6. Yeah, right? by jenningsthecat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    FTA: "Microsoft is deeply committed to ensuring that we maintain the best possible experience for our customers". This from the company that brought us trickery-based forced 'upgrades' to Windows 10? Who are they trying to fool?

    Why do companies bother to say this kind of crap? Do they think we believe them? Is it a nervous tic? Maybe the marketing droid equivalent of boilerplate legal disclaimers? These assholes should really listen to themselves some time. Then again, self examination is clearly not something they're willing or able to do.

    Maybe corporate person-hood, along with the legal rights it bestows, should also allow for corporations to be locked up in psych wards until their sociopathic / psychotic / schizophrenic symptoms and behaviours are under control and they're judged fit to return to society.

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    1. Re:Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Microsoft is deeply committed to ensuring that we maintain the best possible experience for our customers"

      The gullible believe it, just like:

      "Your privacy is very important to us."

    2. Re:Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Your privacy is very important to us."

      That simply doesn't mean what you think it does.

    3. Re: Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It looks like you're writing a marketing statement! Would you like help with that?"

    4. Re:Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Your privacy is very important to us."

      That simply doesn't mean what you think it does.

      I know the definition of privacy. You're delusional and easy to manipulate. What else would you give up for shiny?

    5. Re:Yeah, right? by Some+nick+or+other · · Score: 1

      It's the corporate version of dictatorships holding elections. Nobody believes them but they feel they have to do it anyway.

    6. Re:Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or ....

      Upgrade to our latest and greatest OS Win10,
      because the old ones are unsupported, buggy and not secure anymore.

    7. Re:Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then ask your dad what "cynism" and "reading between the lines" means too.

    8. Re:Yeah, right? by houghi · · Score: 1

      Why do companies bother to say this kind of crap?

      Because it works, so why should they NOT do it? This is just another "If it is stupid and it works, it is not stupid." Enough people either do not care or buy into it and that is all that matters.
      Looking at their bank account, I don't think they are doing that bad.

      And talking about the marketing droid equivalent of boilerplate legal disclaimers, what about that company that said customers held their phone wrong. I am sure people left THAT company by the millions never to return and they are now broke, right?

      They do it, because it works.

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    9. Re:Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "FTA: "Microsoft is deeply committed to ensuring that we maintain the best possible experience for our customers". This from the company that brought us trickery-based forced 'upgrades' to Windows 10? "

      Don't worry, I'm sure they've got telemetry updates rolled into the advertising update - moving the advertising from the notification bar to the main screen in the process.

      What? That seems to fall in line with their current policies no?

    10. Re:Yeah, right? by thegarbz · · Score: 0

      Why do companies bother to say this kind of crap?

      Because "we eat babies" doesn't look good on the annual shareholder report?

      Do they think we believe them?

      Ask the Trump supporters. I mean this is Slashdot but lets face it the world is absolutely full of gullible people. Companies make statements like this because paying someone $70k per year to draft up lipservice actually pays off due the the aforementioned stupidity of the human race.

    11. Re: Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, this is why spammers still exist. Even making it illegal won't stop them.

    12. Re:Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's too bad more people haven't tried LibreOffice, because it works flawlessly with Windows 10.

      Like Windows 10, LibreOffice is free. The only difference is that it won't automatically download to your computer.

      I can't believe how much money people waste on Microsoft Office. Don't let friends use MS Office!

      You can even put LibreOffice on a USB stick with the free Portable Version of LibreOffice. You can't do that with Microsoft.

    13. Re:Yeah, right? by careysub · · Score: 1

      Impressive piece of understated sarcasm. Well done!

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    14. Re:Yeah, right? by ripvlan · · Score: 1

      The needle has moved too far to one side. MS has entered the era of "consumers are ad consumers" -- Windows 10 "spams" ads in the notification tray all the time. After upgrading to Win10 I was constantly presented with "Get Office365 today - cheap!" - like multiple times. Apparently the same team was in charge of Android platform too.

      When I type in the name of a program in the Start-bar - my work computer (Win7) provides results nearly instantaneously. My home PC (similar horsepower) running Win10 balks because it is merging the Bing results with local results.

      I just want to run Calculator damit - not Buy one!

    15. Re:Yeah, right? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Because corporations never say "yup, we're guilty, we're embarrassed that you called us on it, we are currently undergoing ethics training."

    16. Re:Yeah, right? by imidan · · Score: 1

      Why do companies bother to say this kind of crap?

      People tell lies all the time, and most of them don't bother me that much. Politicians lie, and I get it. They tell lies that people want to hear so they can get elected. White lies smooth social interactions. All kinds of lies. But this particular lie really pisses me off.

      It often starts with words like 'To better serve our customers' or 'For your convenience' and then it says something that makes my life worse and less convenient. And it's so goddamn transparent.

      'To better serve our customers, we are closing the only branch of our business in your town. The nearest branch will be conveniently located 40 miles away.'

      Fuck you. You aren't doing it to better serve your customers, you're doing it because you've decided that this branch doesn't bring in enough money. You're already pissing me off by closing the store. Why piss me off more by shitting all over me with lies?

      Sorry. Sore topic.

    17. Re:Yeah, right? by lgw · · Score: 1

      Ask the Trump supporters.

      Please take your political tribal signalling to Reddit, where it belongs.

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    18. Re: Yeah, right? by N!k0N · · Score: 1

      So .. never, then?

    19. Re:Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not quite. There are "communication" people that really genuinely believe what comes out of their mouths is worth saying and don't really comprehend the level of cynicism any right thinking individual would have with regards to what they say.

      (Does it work? Who knows. Do corporate communication consultants believe it works? Absolutely.)

    20. Re:Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For all we know, some propagandist in the KWP also really believes Kim Jong Un got 99.7% of the people's support.

    21. Re:Yeah, right? by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      Hell, /. if full of ignorant and gullible people who will believe anything their "party" says. "Party" in this case being used in the broadest sense possible to include political, vim/emacs, systemd/init, and so on.

      Always assume that what someone is telling you is bullshit unless there is evidence for it, that goes for what you tell yourself as well.

    22. Re:Yeah, right? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Are you saying people don't believe trump and are lying in the polls or that Trump will actually do anything he claims he's going to do because in that case I'll ask people to mod you +5 funny.

    23. Re:Yeah, right? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Ask the Trump supporters.

      Yeah, because Trump is the Devil, and Hillary is God!

      God, grow up already, you are insulting yourself by posting that garbage.

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    24. Re:Yeah, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coren22 we've all seen you do a fine job of insulting yourself against APK when he's burnt you easily https://slashdot.org/comments.... , https://slashdot.org/comments.... + http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

  7. Android by ledow · · Score: 5, Informative

    One of the beauties of Android?

    You can just "turn off notifications" on a per-app basis. It's literally like one press-hold and one click from any notification you see.

    1. Re:Android by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      The problem with this is that these apps may use actual notifications as well, which you'd also no longer be seeing.

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    2. Re:Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then they should think carefully about spamming ads in the notification tray. Because if an app spams ads I'm either blocking it's access to the notification tray or uninstalling it!

    3. Re:Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If any app I was using stopped working just because I blocked the ads, I would consider that a bug in the app.

      But I avoid ad-infested apps anyway, so it likely wouldn't come to that.

    4. Re:Android by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 5, Informative

      What possible notification could I actually want/need from WORD, FFS? It's a word processor, not a godsdamned calendar.

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    5. Re:Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsofts Problem now.

    6. Re:Android by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      You're excluding a good deal of decent free apps. AdAway, blocks ad hosts at the hosts file. It's funny how some apps squirm and complain that the ad hosts appear to be down.

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    7. Re:Android by SharpFang · · Score: 3, Funny

      [Clippy] "GPS positioning indicates you've spent past 4 hours at an establishment known to serve liquors, and you seem to be texting a contact named 'ex'. Would you like me to assist you in editing the text message?"

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    8. Re:Android by c · · Score: 2

      Cloud stuff, if you use it.

      Google Drive/Docs will notify (if you want) about cloud uploads/downloads of documents in some cases. For example, if you set some large documents to be available offline they can take some time to be available.

      I assume MS does something similar, but for all I know it's just there for Clippy.

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    9. Re:Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A better solution is to one press-hold and tap "remove".

    10. Re:Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's be honest. With or without Clippy, there is no way that scenario plays out well.

    11. Re:Android by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      That wasn't the question. Considering the expected level of intoxication (causing difficulty writing) you'd *want* that notification. Whether it would do you any good is an entirely different matter.

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    12. Re:Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another beauty of Android: MS apps are relegated to obscurity because there are real alternatives - nobody wants or needs Microsoft's garbage cluttering up their devices. The fact that Microsoft is actively working to make the remaining users jump ship is icing on the cake.

    13. Re:Android by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the beauties of Android?

      You can just "turn off notifications" on a per-app basis. It's literally like one press-hold and one click from any notification you see.

      Where was that listed in the manual? All I got was plug in power cable here. Plug in headphones there.

    14. Re:Android by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      I didn't know you could do that, thanks! That makes tracking down that garbage much easier, so that I know what to delete.

  8. Simple solution by CptLoRes · · Score: 1

    I got the notification spam from Microsoft apps too, and the solution was simple. I disabled any notification for the offending apps in Android. When I want to work on a document I open it. There is no need for notifications of any kind in this type of application. So in a classic example of cry wolf, Microsoft has made it so that I will no longer get any notifications from their apps.

    1. Re:Simple solution by mrbester · · Score: 1

      A better solution is to report the app and uninstall it. If enough do so, Google might annoy Microsoft by removing it from the store.

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    2. Re: Simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have experienced a number of Android apps that re-enable the notifications the next time they are run. The Guardian app is one example of this.

  9. Revolutionary post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now dupes are intergrated into non-dupe posts!

    =P

  10. In other semi-related news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other completely unrelated news. FTFY.

  11. Nice to see OSNews back from the dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe now we can stop the endless Moronix^WPhoronix click bait reposts?

  12. all of microsoft's software was by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    was the first thing i disabled on my samsung when i got it, along with office apps there is onedrive and onenote and skype, all of which had their permissions removed and disabled from running, i would uninstall them completely if i could do it without rooting my phone, i did not know samsung included so much third party crapware so now my next cellphone will be a Nexus and hopefully google will not include microsoft's products pre-installed

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    1. Re:all of microsoft's software was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your carrier installed that, not samsung.

    2. Re: all of microsoft's software was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not true, I bought the carrier free Galaxy S6 and MS Office stuff was pre-installed.

      I too disabled it immediately and cursed Samsung.

  13. Asshattery deluxe... by Knightman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All the shit Microsoft have pulled the last year only mean that a lot of people gets pissed off.

    Microsoft has become that guy in the office nobody can stand because he is a total asshole but they have to deal with him on a daily basis anyway - which means when they get the chance to get rid of him they will.

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    1. Re:Asshattery deluxe... by ITRambo · · Score: 1

      I agree. The current level of arrogance at Microsoft makes the Gates/Ballmer days look timid and somewhat pleasant in comparison.

    2. Re:Asshattery deluxe... by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      which means when they get the chance to get rid of him they will.

      Unfortunately he's liked by the boss an therefore not likely to move on, so the best we can hope is not invite him to any social events.

    3. Re:Asshattery deluxe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No change. They always used to fuck over their competition with dirty tricks in every way they could.

      Now they are competing with their "customers" for their privacy and personal data. If the "customers" were customers, Windows 10 "upgrades" would not be "free". Think of "free" as in "free sexually transmitted disease", not "free beer".

    4. Re: Asshattery deluxe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Computers are lasting long enough now that people aren't buying them new every few years. Microsoft is forced to "push" their new software, when before they could just collect the OEM revenue.

    5. Re:Asshattery deluxe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But he'll impose himself and tag along whether you like it or not. He'll then return to the office the next day and tell the boss everything that you did.

  14. Slashdot, no. Bad Slashdot. by dinfinity · · Score: 2

    In other semi-related news, users can now remove the 260-character path length limit in the Windows 10 build 14352."

    How the fuck is that even remotely related?

    1. Re:Slashdot, no. Bad Slashdot. by Alumoi · · Score: 1

      Because Microsoft? Just saying.

    2. Re:Slashdot, no. Bad Slashdot. by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Hello, I just took a big dump on the hood of your car. In other news, though, I stopped pissing on your door.

      (see how not-entirely-evil am I now?)

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    3. Re:Slashdot, no. Bad Slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other semi-related news, users can now remove the 260-character path length limit in the Windows 10 build 14352."

      How the fuck is that even remotely related?

      Beyond that it's an article 2 stories down for me. I hate these other related news things that have recently crept up.

  15. The usual evil from Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Microsoft is deeply committed to ensuring that we maintain the best possible experience for our customers..."

    Translation:

    Microsoft explores all methods of abusing its customers. In this case, the method is lying.

    1. Re:The usual evil from Microsoft by Salgak1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Microsoft: Where '50 Shades of Grey' is not Surburban Wife Porn, but a Management Philosophy . . . "

      (evil grin)

    2. Re:The usual evil from Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In M$'s defense, they haven't started spamming GWX on android yet.

  16. Yeah, lets put two totally unrelated news together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Slashdot is not your personal blog.

  17. they are going to change it to win 10 adverts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it was about due anyways

  18. Microsoft is becoming desperate... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    ...There are many questions here, one of which is why is Microsoft ignoring Google's guidelines and using the notification tray to display ads?...

    Probably for the same reason that Microsoft is ignoring their own guidelines and making the "X" dismissal of a dialog box mean "OK, do it".

    .
    Microsoft is starting to look desperate for ongoing customers, and they have realized they cannot compete when they stay within the guidelines that everyone else respects..

    1. Re:Microsoft is becoming desperate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They already broke the law and got away with barely a slap on the wrist, you think guidelines are even going to slow them down? We only got vaguely incompetent evil under Ballmer, looks like we're getting the directed malicious stuff now.

    2. Re:Microsoft is becoming desperate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They didn't break their own guidelines. That update had already been scheduled and the dialog was to reschedule it. Canceling the reschedule/cancel dialog means you're still doing the original action at the original time.

      It's bad of them to schedule the update before showing dialog, but that's what happened. It's sad that even the supposed techies are becoming computer illiterate nowadays, thinking with their emotions instead of with their brains.

  19. Stop the story spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other totally unrelated news...

  20. I'm such an End-user, I thought that was normal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I sometimes forget that certain parts of my UI are sacred and meant for only their purpose... like my mother's start menu in Windows.

    We are giving Microsoft a hit but what about all the special offers notifications we get from apps like Kindle?

  21. This is not a QA fail by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    Marketing can never see a message delivered, be it a pop-up, pop-under, tray message, anything, as a failure.

    Every impression is a success.

    But the rest of the product team should be more circumspect, and recognize this for what it is - abuse.

    QA is dead to me, Agile notwithstanding.

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    deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
    1. Re:This is not a QA fail by iampiti · · Score: 1

      The rest of the product team is aware that this is unacceptable, they just have to go with it because the boss mandated the feature.
      QA probably verified that the ads came up when they should

  22. What are they investigating? by jetkust · · Score: 1

    "Our team is actively investigating the occurrences of these notifications."

    So their app is pushing advertisements for other apps of theirs? What is this supposed to be? A glitch?

  23. Windows 10 next please? by Burstaholic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I had to uninstall the version of Office that came with Windows 10 to get rid of the 'Upgrade Office Today!' notifications. I upgraded to LibreOffice, of course.

    1. Re: Windows 10 next please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Windows tablet came with a full OEM copy of Office 2013 H&S which was a featured item listed on the tablets packaging. It included a license and key on a paper cert inside the box. It still takes the opportunity to pop up ads urging me to upgrade to Office 365.

  24. Good for the Goose... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everytime I *think* the word Google, I'm prompted to download Chrome.

  25. omg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    using m$ products on android.. god, why...

  26. Enlightenment by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Here's all you need to know:

    Microsoft doesn't care what its users want, Microsoft cares about what Microsoft wants.

    And now you know everything there is to know about Microsoft.

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    Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
  27. A good read by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    Venus, Inc.

    by Frederik Pohl, C.M. Kornbluth

    Subliminal ads projected onto your retinae. A very good and topical read. Published in 1984 no less. Think I'll go have a venus cola now, suddenly I have a craving.

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    errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
  28. Stop with the #$&!ing "experience" nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop talking about software and "experience" already!

    Software are a tool. They are not an experience. They are not entertainment or occurrences in life that widen your horizon.
    They are to be tools only.

    They do have an user interface, so people can talk about that.
    They have a certain usefulness, or not, as it may be.

    But that marketing babble infested nonsense has to stop!